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Thread started 07/03/13 7:46am

Graycap23

Prince: Fdeluxe issue?

Seems Prince is taking the hit 4 the Fdeluxe tracks being removed from SoundCloud.

They are discussing on FB.

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Reply #1 posted 07/03/13 8:10am

thedance

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Why hasn't he learned? rolleyes


Isn't there another baby dancing to one of his songs, that he can 'attack' instead..?

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Reply #2 posted 07/03/13 8:22am

lwr001

so between rehearsing, doing shows in chicago, getting ready for montreaux, doing webcasts he is scouring sondcloud for Fdeluxe songs...me thinks that if it is copyrighted material, a bot or something recognizes and takes down automatically just like it does with my copyrighted soundcloud material..nothing to see here.. why, for the life of me do t hey think they gonna get any traction airing their issues out

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Reply #3 posted 07/03/13 10:57am

purple1968

lwr001 said:

so between rehearsing, doing shows in chicago, getting ready for montreaux, doing webcasts he is scouring sondcloud for Fdeluxe songs...me thinks that if it is copyrighted material, a bot or something recognizes and takes down automatically just like it does with my copyrighted soundcloud material..nothing to see here.. why, for the life of me do t hey think they gonna get any traction airing their issues out

Because they are idiots. They do not own the music and cannot put it up on the internet. They can rant and rave all day it will change nothing. My guess is P has lawyers who handle this stuff for him just as if someone put his music in a T.V. show or movie without permission.

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Reply #4 posted 07/03/13 11:01am

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Wait a minute - is he removing fDeluxe music or Family music?

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Reply #5 posted 07/03/13 11:07am

Efan

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Genesia said:

Wait a minute - is he removing fDeluxe music or Family music?


All of the above, apparently.

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Reply #6 posted 07/03/13 11:09am

Genesia

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Efan said:

Genesia said:

Wait a minute - is he removing fDeluxe music or Family music?


All of the above, apparently.


Okay, well...I can understand the Family stuff. But what kind of standing does he have to shut down the other? That makes no sense.

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Reply #7 posted 07/03/13 11:10am

Graycap23

Efan said:

Genesia said:

Wait a minute - is he removing fDeluxe music or Family music?


All of the above, apparently.

yes

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Reply #8 posted 07/03/13 11:18am

Efan

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Genesia said:

Efan said:


All of the above, apparently.


Okay, well...I can understand the Family stuff. But what kind of standing does he have to shut down the other? That makes no sense.


None, as far as I know. But I'm guessing Soundcloud just took everything down in response to Prince's legal notice.

Prince seems to have a personal vendetta against them and the Time. Sheila's videos never get taken down.

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Reply #9 posted 07/03/13 11:35am

Graycap23

Efan said:

Genesia said:


Okay, well...I can understand the Family stuff. But what kind of standing does he have to shut down the other? That makes no sense.


None, as far as I know. But I'm guessing Soundcloud just took everything down in response to Prince's legal notice.

Prince seems to have a personal vendetta against them and the Time. Sheila's videos never get taken down.

When a member of the group publicly states that they HATE U................Prince took it seriously.

My opinion of course.

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Reply #10 posted 07/03/13 11:48am

Stymie

It is unfortunate that this has happened but not surprising. Seems to me that it would have been expected. I also expect that their own music will be returning to soundcloud.

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Reply #11 posted 07/03/13 12:07pm

bashraka

My theory is that part of Prince's method of madness in removing The Family/fDeluxe music is what Alan and Eric Leeds said in that Toure book "I WOULD DIE 4 U". They said some unflattering things about Prince and whether they are true or not, Prince comes across as a passive aggressive person who is not above exacting petty revenge.

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Reply #12 posted 07/03/13 12:25pm

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Efan said:

Genesia said:


Okay, well...I can understand the Family stuff. But what kind of standing does he have to shut down the other? That makes no sense.


None, as far as I know. But I'm guessing Soundcloud just took everything down in response to Prince's legal notice.

Prince seems to have a personal vendetta against them and the Time. Sheila's videos never get taken down.

Do Time performances of 1981-1984 songs get removed?

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I will make you cyber shit in your pants!
What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
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Reply #13 posted 07/03/13 12:48pm

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Graycap23 said:

Efan said:


None, as far as I know. But I'm guessing Soundcloud just took everything down in response to Prince's legal notice.

Prince seems to have a personal vendetta against them and the Time. Sheila's videos never get taken down.

When a member of the group publicly states that they HATE U................Prince took it seriously.

My opinion of course.

You may have a point. Especially when that person is the common link between the two groups.

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Reply #14 posted 07/03/13 2:15pm

Cinny

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Graycap23 said:

Efan said:


None, as far as I know. But I'm guessing Soundcloud just took everything down in response to Prince's legal notice.

Prince seems to have a personal vendetta against them and the Time. Sheila's videos never get taken down.

When a member of the group publicly states that they HATE U................Prince took it seriously.

My opinion of course.

Pretty good theory considering the overlap of members between The Time/Original 7even and The Family/fDeluxe.

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Reply #15 posted 07/03/13 8:38pm

bashraka

"Here's some food for thought. Imagine the uproar if Elvis had soundcloud and couldn't put up 'Jailhouse Rock' or 'Don't Be Cruel'! Aretha without 'Respect', Paula Abdul without 'Opposites Attract' or Chaka sans 'I'm Every Woman'."-fDeluxe FB account

WOW! Certainly I feel for fDeluxe, but to put their music on the same caliber as Elvis, Aretha and Chaka is stretching it.

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Reply #16 posted 07/03/13 9:32pm

Stymie

bashraka said:

"Here's some food for thought. Imagine the uproar if Elvis had soundcloud and couldn't put up 'Jailhouse Rock' or 'Don't Be Cruel'! Aretha without 'Respect', Paula Abdul without 'Opposites Attract' or Chaka sans 'I'm Every Woman'."-fDeluxe FB account



WOW! Certainly I feel for fDeluxe, but to put their music on the same caliber as Elvis, Aretha and Chaka is stretching it.


They weren't. They are saying their most important songs are not on soundcloud.
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Reply #17 posted 07/04/13 2:13am

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I was gonna say "Paula Abdul?!?!" but isn't Opposites Attract an Oliver Leiber production?

Other than this thread, I can't say I've followed this at all - but I don't see how Prince's camp could have any way of getting their songs removed if they're not his songs. Unless Soundcloud are just scared of lawyer letterheads in general and jump at the first 'Boo!' they hear. They can get the tracks put back up surely.

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Reply #18 posted 07/04/13 12:21pm

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What a cunt.
"does my cock look fat in these jeans?"
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Reply #19 posted 07/04/13 12:37pm

trax

I wish other artists would go after him for playing their music the same way he goes after people that play his. He is so desperate and money hungry nowadays. What a miserable little troll he has become. Just pathetique!!

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Reply #20 posted 07/04/13 3:43pm

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Tried many flavours - but sooner or later, always go back to the Purple Kool-aid!

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Reply #21 posted 07/04/13 5:46pm

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trax said:

I wish other artists would go after him for playing their music the same way he goes after people that play his. He is so desperate and money hungry nowadays. What a miserable little troll he has become. Just pathetique!!


Very good idea!

A bit of his own medicine to make him feel useless, seeing as his "YES" people dont have the nerve to. mad
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Reply #22 posted 07/04/13 5:56pm

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Can someone get in touch with Billy Cobham and ask him to send a takedown notice to 3rdEyeGirl.com for "Boomstratus"?

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Reply #23 posted 07/05/13 6:22am

lwr001

errant said:

Can someone get in touch with Billy Cobham and ask him to send a takedown notice to 3rdEyeGirl.com for "Boomstratus"?

I'm sure Princve got those copyright pasyments covered and licensed!

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Reply #24 posted 07/05/13 7:40am

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Graycap23 said:

Efan said:


None, as far as I know. But I'm guessing Soundcloud just took everything down in response to Prince's legal notice.

Prince seems to have a personal vendetta against them and the Time. Sheila's videos never get taken down.

When a member of the group publicly states that they HATE U................Prince took it seriously.

My opinion of course.


i never heard that. sad sad maybe tbat person just felt that way in the heat of the moment and then got quoted on it forever and ever in a kind of media echo way. i'm pretty sure most of us have felt a flash of anger like that at one point or another only to have that feeling cool out and leave after a while

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Reply #25 posted 07/05/13 8:15am

lwr001

they have since deleted the nonsense that P sits around PP and decides to fuck with them on purpose...

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Reply #26 posted 07/05/13 8:39am

cbarnes3121

if these people are so damn talented and leave prince stuff he created the hell alone and do their own damn thing the family all left prince b/c they wanted to fuck returning to what u left when u wanna. do u c sherly crow running round acting like she has rights to anything michael jackson has done

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Reply #27 posted 07/05/13 8:48am

lwr001

I love the group, my issue is they should have struck when the fire was hot in 86. They chose not too. To try to have Prince co sign some shit years later is BS..

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Reply #28 posted 07/05/13 8:54am

steakfinger

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Helen Hunt

Agreed. Also, Bob Saget.

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Reply #29 posted 07/05/13 9:01am

Zannaloaf

lwr001 said:

I love the group, my issue is they should have struck when the fire was hot in 86. They chose not too. To try to have Prince co sign some shit years later is BS..

they tried. Prince kept that at home rehearsing endlessly.(read up your Prince history smile

Soundcloud and Youtube probably jump as soon as someone with any clout complains about rights issues. If I had a compnay like that and that large I'd probably jump too.

The relevant part to me is that he may have the right to shut it down (the Family stuff) but why does he have to have people on it so tight? Will it casue him problems in court? No. Will he lose money? No. Will it cause him any creative issues or any ownership problems? No.
So if you eliminate the obvious reasons why an artist would have their people causing issues (whether specifically or randomly) you have to start looking at personality issues. Whether it is Prince or anyone else.

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