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Reply #60 posted 05/15/13 7:56am

SuperSoulFight
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How ironic is it for a guy who seemingly cannot write a decent song anymore to disrespect Bob Dylan?


Bob Dylan never cared about "crossing over",he writes music for everyone and doesn't cater to color lines ,something maybe Prince could learn from.


Bob Dylan is a master at his craft...crossover status be damned.


Not only that, Sly & Jimi were very much influenced by Dylan.
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Reply #61 posted 05/15/13 8:01am

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and now all the bitching starts yet everyone will get he new album once it's released lol and what's wrong with Prince surrounding himself with younger ppl? apparently it makes him inspired and happy again and that's certainly a good thing, cuz I don't think we would have a new album this year if it wasn't 4 this 3rdeyegirl thing
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Reply #62 posted 05/15/13 8:05am

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2elijah said:

Interesting. So according to the interview, he gets fresh and new ideas from the young people, which is usually the case when younger people are involved, especially with technology assisting in bringing fresh and new ideas, and better ways to do things. But, seeing how he says he doesn't like hanging around old people, probably because he thinks their ideas are ancient, so, I guess his aim with this rock music and his future music plans is to attract younger and new fans under 30.

Another thing, the comment about his new group not caring about the world, just the music? Seriously? It's the young people who assist in changing the world, learning from those before them, and how to make things better. What happens in the world affects their future too. Well, I guess this is the new Prince, and lets see how many young people he could get to listen, and educate them about the music of older musicians, like Sly Stone, Jimi Hendrix, James Brown, Larry Graham, and all those great musicians who were many of his influences, and whose music he's been performing with these young members of this new group lately. It is what it is. shrug

[Edited 5/15/13 7:30am]

The thing is that in the minds of the current young generation, the 80's & the 90's are THE only "old-school" classes that they'll mention. Most of them don't really care to make the time to study music from the 50's-70's, except for sampling disco of course.

I remember when I was age 18-19 in 1993 that "old-school" was the 50's-70's and the 80's was my childhood. It would be one thing for Prince to educate my generation with his perspective about what was going on in music history back in the days. But to have that kind of discussion with the young people of the 2010's? It's going to failed and Prince might not realize this yet. I would like to be wrong on this but I doubt it.

[Edited 5/15/13 10:48am]

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Reply #63 posted 05/15/13 8:05am

lwr001

TheEnglishGent said:

lwr001 said:

You care enough to sit here and say you don't care....lol

They never said they don't care, they said they 'could care less'. They obciously like what's happening.

Thats right EnglishGent..lol

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Reply #64 posted 05/15/13 8:08am

Empress

SuperSoulFighter said:

mask said:

How ironic is it for a guy who seemingly cannot write a decent song anymore to disrespect Bob Dylan?

Bob Dylan never cared about "crossing over",he writes music for everyone and doesn't cater to color lines ,something maybe Prince could learn from.

Bob Dylan is a master at his craft...crossover status be damned.

Not only that, Sly & Jimi were very much influenced by Dylan.

Exactly! Prince needs to pull his head out of his ass.

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Reply #65 posted 05/15/13 8:08am

lwr001

MIRvmn said:

and now all the bitching starts yet everyone will get he new album once it's released lol and what's wrong with Prince surrounding himself with younger ppl? apparently it makes him inspired and happy again and that's certainly a good thing, cuz I don't think we would have a new album this year if it wasn't 4 this 3rdeyegirl thing

exactly, they say he is boring but offer up no evidence to how they are exciting or what the defintion of exciting is to them..

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Reply #66 posted 05/15/13 8:14am

lwr001

“The Pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects the wind;
the realist adjust the sails”

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Reply #67 posted 05/15/13 8:27am

purple1968

Empress said:

SuperSoulFighter said:

mask said: Not only that, Sly & Jimi were very much influenced by Dylan.

Exactly! Prince needs to pull his head out of his ass.

---------- You need to pull your head out of your ass. Prince said Bob Dylan was not a crossover artist.

This is a true statement. Bob Dylan never put a song on the RnB chart the masses of African-American back in the day could not tell you who BoB Dylan was and I doubt many can tell you today.

It does not mean Bob was not talented just means he was not appealling to all racial groups.

P modeled his whole carreer after Sly in terms of crossover appeal. He certainly was not thinking about Bob Dylan.

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Reply #68 posted 05/15/13 8:29am

bashraka

I believe what Prince meant by "Dylan didn't cross over" was that Bob Dylan's music didn't reach Black radio and a sizeable Black fanbase, in the way that Sly Stone's music reached audiences outside of his cultural fanbase i.e. Black. Jimi Hendrix, through death reached more Black people which is ironic because during the Band of Gypsys he was trying to cross over to an audience he was already a member of. In the end, Prince should have his interviews transcripted and the questions put in context, because these quotes does nothing for his reputation that so many people have of him.
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Reply #69 posted 05/15/13 8:31am

purple1968

lwr001 said:

What;s even more funny then the interview is the visceral reaction folks on here are having over it...

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It is ridculous. All of this is because he wants to work with new and young people!!! and because he stated a fact that Bob was not a cross over artist which is a fact. He is not saying anything bad about the great music God Bob Dylan!!!

Fans should be excicted that he found a label and get even get a cd out with normal distrubuiton.

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Reply #70 posted 05/15/13 8:32am

2elijah

TonyVanDam said:

2elijah said:

Interesting. So according to the interview, he gets fresh and new ideas from the young people, which is usually the case when younger people are involved, especially with technology assisting in bringing fresh and new ideas, and better ways to do things. But, seeing how he says he doesn't like hanging around old people, probably because he thinks their ideas are ancient, so, I guess his aim with this rock music and his future music plans is to attract younger and new fans under 30.

Another thing, the comment about his new group not caring about the world, just the music? Seriously? It's the young people who assist in changing the world, learning from those before them, and how to make things better. What happens in the world affects their future too. Well, I guess this is the new Prince, and lets see how many young people he could get to listen, and educate them about the music of older musicians, like Sly Stone, Jimi Hendrix, James Brown, Larry Graham, and all those great musicians who were many of his influences, and whose music he's been performing with these young members of this new group lately. It is what it is. shrug

[Edited 5/15/13 7:30am]

The thing is that in the minds of the current young generation, the 80's & the 90's are THE only "old-school" class that they're mention. Most of them don't really care to make the time to study music from the 50's-70's, except for sampling disco of course.

I remember when I was age 18-19 in 1993 that "old-school" was the 50's-70's and the 80's was my childhood. It would be one thing for Prince to educate my generation with his perspective about what was going on in music history back in the days. But to have that kind of discussion with the young people of the 2010's? It's going to failed and Prince might not realize this yet. I would like to be wrong on this but I doubt it.

You know, you have a point about the 80s and 90s being the old school for the younger generation of today, which to me the age groups, probably those born after 1985? I could be wrong. I know my son loves the 80s/90s music he calls 'back in the day', so I assume that's what you are referring to. Sly Stone, Jimi, JB, LG, etc., were pretty much dominant in the 60s/70s eras, so it will be interesting to see how 3rdeye will lure younger fans, (the 15-21 group) into the 60s/70s artists' type of music, if that is what he intends to perform live with them , as like you said, old school for the younger generation today is the '80s/90s' era musicians/artists.

[Edited 5/15/13 8:36am]

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Reply #71 posted 05/15/13 8:32am

purple1968

LittleSister said:

According to the interview he met Julia last year during the L.A. tour, but it turns out she was already working for him at age 20.

She's mentioned in the staff section of the Welcome 2 Canada tourbook (2011) :

Julia Ramadan : Assistant & Teleprompter

But she was not his manager back then. Read the article.

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Reply #72 posted 05/15/13 8:33am

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lwr001 said:

TheEnglishGent said:

They never said they don't care, they said they 'could care less'. They obciously like what's happening.

Thats right EnglishGent..lol

obciously?! lol

RIP sad
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Reply #73 posted 05/15/13 8:36am

purple1968

bashraka said:

I believe what Prince meant by "Dylan didn't cross over" was that Bob Dylan's music didn't reach Black radio and a sizeable Black fanbase, in the way that Sly Stone's music reached audiences outside of his cultural fanbase i.e. Black. Jimi Hendrix, through death reached more Black people which is ironic because during the Band of Gypsys he was trying to cross over to an audience he was already a member of. In the end, Prince should have his interviews transcripted and the questions put in context, because these quotes does nothing for his reputation that so many people have of him.

No people need to learn how to read and stop being so over emotional. P can come off as spacey sometimes in interviews but he did nothing wrong with that comment about Dylan. No one should have to take out time to explain and defend every little comment so people do not get upset and have a meltdown.

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Reply #74 posted 05/15/13 8:38am

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I'm sure he gets energy from them and creativity. Let's face it, the older we get the less engergetic and creative we are - unless you are a musical genius.

Also, he gets along with women better so this new band makes a lot of sense and I hope he tours the world with them. Think of what an amazing experience it is for the ladies. And that energy comes out in their performances no doubt.

Bream should not have tried to ask all that other crap. You think he would have known by now.

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Reply #75 posted 05/15/13 8:41am

lwr001

purple1968 said:

bashraka said:

I believe what Prince meant by "Dylan didn't cross over" was that Bob Dylan's music didn't reach Black radio and a sizeable Black fanbase, in the way that Sly Stone's music reached audiences outside of his cultural fanbase i.e. Black. Jimi Hendrix, through death reached more Black people which is ironic because during the Band of Gypsys he was trying to cross over to an audience he was already a member of. In the end, Prince should have his interviews transcripted and the questions put in context, because these quotes does nothing for his reputation that so many people have of him.

No people need to learn how to read and stop being so over emotional. P can come off as spacey sometimes in interviews but he did nothing wrong with that comment about Dylan. No one should have to take out time to explain and defend every little comment so people do not get upset and have a meltdown.

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Meltdowns are exactly right..this mfer isn't your husband. who gives a fuck what he thinks.. Is his thinking going to get your child through college or mortgage paid

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Reply #76 posted 05/15/13 8:44am

runphilrun

I'm curious on how he dodged the question of Gay Marriage passing in Minnesota.I'm sure that will be in the 2nd part.

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Reply #77 posted 05/15/13 8:47am

2elijah

purple1968 said:

Empress said:

Exactly! Prince needs to pull his head out of his ass.

---------- You need to pull your head out of your ass. Prince said Bob Dylan was not a crossover artist.

This is a true statement. Bob Dylan never put a song on the RnB chart the masses of African-American back in the day could not tell you who BoB Dylan was and I doubt many can tell you today.

It does not mean Bob was not talented just means he was not appealling to all racial groups.

P modeled his whole carreer after Sly in terms of crossover appeal. He certainly was not thinking about Bob Dylan.

Well, actually, many Blacks knew who Bob Dylan was, because depending on where you lived at the time, there wasn't that many 'Black radio stations', so many Blacks were pretty much familiar with mainly hearing maintream music from White musicians/artists on radio stations, that played mostly music from White musicians/artists. That may be surprising to some, but many Blacks were certainly familiar with the music of the the Beatles, Janis Joplin, Beach Boys, Simon & Garfunkel, the Righteous Brothers, Bob Dylan, and so many other White musicians.

Although, I agree, Dylan did not have a major crossover into the Black community, as a whole, with his music, but his name was familiar to some within the Black community, althhough, it didn't necessarily mean many Black Americans were buying Dylan's music.

I believe most Blacks in the mid 60s early 70s were more into Motown and soul ballads of Black male/female groups, but yes, I just remember Dylan as being among many, socially-conscious musicians, who sang songs in relation to social issues, like Joan Baez, Ritchie Havens, and others, that's just about it.

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Reply #78 posted 05/15/13 8:47am

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lwr001 said:

What;s even more funny then the interview is the visceral reaction folks on here are having over it...

honestly i find it scary. people need to get some life in their lives. for real

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Reply #79 posted 05/15/13 8:48am

lwr001

runphilrun said:

I'm curious on how he dodged the question of Gay Marriage passing in Minnesota.I'm sure that will be in the 2nd part.

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Reply #80 posted 05/15/13 8:52am

lwr001

XxAxX said:

lwr001 said:

What;s even more funny then the interview is the visceral reaction folks on here are having over it...

honestly i find it scary. people need to get some life in their lives. for real

Also, its funny that they have a problem with a 22yr old mgr when a lot of people sit here and offer managerial advice day in /day out.. She actually doing it though.. I commend her for being so young and having his ear.

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Reply #81 posted 05/15/13 8:55am

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The most interesting bit of this interview is yet to come:

http://www.vita.mn/music/207467891.html

Scroll to the bottom:

"Check back later for much, much more from the interview, including Prince's answer to the burning question: Is his Afro real or a wig?"

Now I can't wait for his answer on that razz lol lol

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Reply #82 posted 05/15/13 8:58am

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lwr001 said:

I commend her for being so young and having his ear.

Looks like someone failed Biology 101.

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Reply #83 posted 05/15/13 8:59am

lwr001

NouveauDance said:

lwr001 said:

I commend her for being so young and having his ear.

Looks like someone failed Biology 101.

yep i failed it, got me, satisfied

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Reply #84 posted 05/15/13 9:05am

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Thanks serpan for posting!

Interesting article indeed.

A few new insights. A bummer for the old/previous bandmembers w.r.t. pay....

Thanks!

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #85 posted 05/15/13 9:07am

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He sounds like he's going through a midlife crisis. Scared of getting old and thus surrounding himself with "kids" who have "all the ideas", sure, try telling that to Tom Waits, Kate Bush or David Bowie? These are artists comfortable with there own age and are executing innovative, NEW ideas on their own, making there consequent new albums creative originals that also put to shame an effort like 20ten or the god awful and infantile Screwdriver.

Furthermore, for a guy who's so down with the kids, he can't stop referencing old acts like Sly and James.

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He's seemingly in a troubled place that many seem to hit around his age and him never having kids or a successful wife could be a big factor. I can only hope he comes out the other end happy and healthy if so.

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For now, he's spouting nonsense, whether serious or not.

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Something else that baffles me, he wants to learn from young people with "the new ideas", but quotes a man approaching 70, Larry Graham, as his mentor. As usual, massively contradictory, and also, insulting to Larry. Sorry, Larry, according to baby brother you have no new ideas and don't compare to kids with new ideas coming up with the likes of Screwdriver and LOL (the latter being one of the worst things to ever come out of paisley)....which, funnily enough, are songs based around a 90's sound - Grunge. Fresh for sure...

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You can't take anything this guy says seriously lately. He sounds so dumbed down, worn out, deluded, lacking in intelligence and, something he so desperately wants to avoid....a bitter old man.

The sad thing is that i know that an intelligent genius sits underneath his latest mask.

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Having said all that, i am still offering my strong support, believe in him, wish him the best and kind of look forward to the next step he takes.

This Post is produced, arranged, composed and performed by WetDream
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Reply #86 posted 05/15/13 9:08am

2elijah

inspireof said:

The most interesting bit of this interview is yet to come:

http://www.vita.mn/music/207467891.html

Scroll to the bottom:

"Check back later for much, much more from the interview, including Prince's answer to the burning question: Is his Afro real or a wig?"

Now I can't wait for his answer on that razz lol lol

@ highlighted part...lol That's hilarious.

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Reply #87 posted 05/15/13 9:11am

OLDHATJ

Prince is right about Bob Dylan. What a shame that at the end of the 1970's Bob didn't go the disco/r&b route like so many artists. Imagine Bob doing something like Do you Think I'm Sexy - It would have been great!

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Reply #88 posted 05/15/13 9:11am

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SuperSoulFighter said:

PurpleJedi said:
am I the only one struck by the irony of P allegedly bemoaning the "...lack of songwriting craft today..." all the while putting out a song with a chorus that reads;


"...I'm your driver, you're my screw..." ad nauseum?

neutral

question

shrug

No, you're not. I was thinking the exact same thing. That's what happens when you don't care about the world, but only about music: you have nothing to write about.


I wouldn't necessarily say that he probably doesn't "care"...I would think that perhaps he's detached.

IMO...and this is just my personal opinion folks...when you get to a certain "level" and enjoy the creature comforts of a certain lifestyle, it's easy to detach yourself from the gritty chaos of life that prompts so many artists to create raw, soul-searching, inspired works.

Especially when you get older.

shrug

By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory!
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Reply #89 posted 05/15/13 9:11am

runphilrun

nspireof said:

The most interesting bit of this interview is yet to come:

http://www.vita.mn/music/207467891.html

Scroll to the bottom:

"Check back later for much, much more from the interview, including Prince's answer to the burning question: Is his Afro real or a wig?"

Now I can't wait for his answer on that razz lol lol

Duh, of course it's real. Do you really think he's gonna say anything else otherwise?

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