I've enjoyed some/several parts of all of Prince's last few projects, but Condensate is better than anything he's done in the last 7 years

IMO the best Time project was Pandemonium, hands down. Condensate sounded like a group of old cats tryin to sound young, which was a HUGE letdown considering the talent pool in O7. With all that talent the product wasn't very strong. Jesse's album Verbal Penetration was far better and showed a great deal more growth. Musicology, 3121, Planet Earth and Lotus Flower were better than Condensate, Lotus Flower being the strongest. The other 3 albums had there missteps but had more strengths than weaknesses and exhibited growth and comercial viability that Condensate couldn't even touch. 20Ten was a throwback productionwise, but a leap forward to where Prince's head is today and definitely better than Condensate. The Rainbow Children and N.E.W.S. were and still are masterpieces as far as artistic depth and growth. TRC had lyrical depth of subject matter and great music and N.E.W.S. was improvisation and fusion; Condensate couldn't even come close to these. O7 needs to come with a live, in-studio full band experience and great songs. Vocal duties could get a boost of depth with Jesse Johnson and Alexander O'Neal sharing vocals with Morris, who has proven in recent times to be a pretty narrow conduit for all the talent(writing) that exists in that band. Real talk, FDeluxe presented and intelligently executed a far better folow-up and progression than O7's Condensate.

what is this crap about 3rd eye being B sides .. these are singles prince groupies .. prince thinks screwdriver is the next kiss .. seriously .. wake up .. this is as good as it gets .. u think after a 3 year break he is gonna drop a turd outtake B side and pay Rolling Stone to hype it for 2 months .. no .. this is the best prince ur gonna get .. stop making excuses for this wank

uuuuuhmmm...... were you paying attention to the music while it was playing?

fantasticjoy said:

I love the Time/Original 7, but I didn't like their last album at all. Now with the exception of Rock & Roll Love Affair, I pretty much like or love what Prince has put out recently.

i hate to be a dick but i thought that Condensate record was WACK. without the P tracks they're just not the same.

skywalker said:

Prince IS The Time.

Plus he took his name "The Time" back.......

"Strawberry Lake" alone slaughters anything from the 3rdeyegirl site!

skywalker said:

Prince IS The Time.

Exactly. I don't know why others don't see/hear/feel that. Condensate was the best album Prince has ghost-orchestrated to date.

AndrePatrone said:

condensate is the best prince album in years. and i loved lotusflow3r.

+1

actually liked "Condensate" a lot. thought it was brilliant. Just felt it was a waste. Because eye was fortunate enough to see them per4rm live the opening of the first promotional per4mance stop they did. I was ready for a long successful run with it. Then Jesse left & it was over. They promised to continue it. But never did & still haven't given an explanation. It was great to see the original line up reunite live... Eye'm happy that I witnessed it. Before it ended much too soon..

No.

TrevorAyer said:

what is this crap about 3rd eye being B sides .. these are singles prince groupies .. prince thinks screwdriver is the next kiss .. seriously .. wake up .. this is as good as it gets .. u think after a 3 year break he is gonna drop a turd outtake B side and pay Rolling Stone to hype it for 2 months .. no .. this is the best prince ur gonna get .. stop making excuses for this wank

Singles are available where people buy music; not just where fans who look for every possible related twitter feed can find them, or even people who read internet music-blogs. In the old days, that would have meant in the shops; today--the real download stores: iTunes, Amazon--you know, where they sell music to the masses. These are not singles; they're barely even releases. Sure, they're available to anyone in the world, but they're not where anyone could see them. A single mention of the website on one late night show is not promotion--how many people watching even noticed what Jimmy Fallon said? Andy's album was released. These things, while they've been mentioned in Rolling Stone and other places, really haven't been. We might be paying for some of them, but this is still intended to achieve a bit of "buzz," not the full on push that a "single" would suggest. Now, if his interest is mainly touring, it may never get to that point.

As for whether Prince thinks "Screwdriver" is the next "Kiss"--I doubt he does; but it works better live than any live version of "Kiss" has for me. And Prince couldn't judge a song back then, either. He wasn't interested enough in "Kiss" to even arrange the thing before he gave it away to Mazarati, and I don't for a moment think he would have ever done anything with it to make it the fantastic track it was if he hadn't turned it over to David Z. and let him make the basic record. And many would probably argue he never was much good at picking singles at any point in his career.

chriss said:

appleseed said:

Exactly. I don't know why others don't see/hear/feel that. Condensate was the best album Prince has ghost-orchestrated to date.

What do you mean?

EddieC said:

TrevorAyer said:

what is this crap about 3rd eye being B sides .. these are singles prince groupies .. prince thinks screwdriver is the next kiss .. seriously .. wake up .. this is as good as it gets .. u think after a 3 year break he is gonna drop a turd outtake B side and pay Rolling Stone to hype it for 2 months .. no .. this is the best prince ur gonna get .. stop making excuses for this wank

Singles are available where people buy music; not just where fans who look for every possible related twitter feed can find them, or even people who read internet music-blogs. In the old days, that would have meant in the shops; today--the real download stores: iTunes, Amazon--you know, where they sell music to the masses. These are not singles; they're barely even releases. Sure, they're available to anyone in the world, but they're not where anyone could see them. A single mention of the website on one late night show is not promotion--how many people watching even noticed what Jimmy Fallon said? Andy's album was released. These things, while they've been mentioned in Rolling Stone and other places, really haven't been. We might be paying for some of them, but this is still intended to achieve a bit of "buzz," not the full on push that a "single" would suggest. Now, if his interest is mainly touring, it may never get to that point.

As for whether Prince thinks "Screwdriver" is the next "Kiss"--I doubt he does; but it works better live than any live version of "Kiss" has for me. And Prince couldn't judge a song back then, either. He wasn't interested enough in "Kiss" to even arrange the thing before he gave it away to Mazarati, and I don't for a moment think he would have ever done anything with it to make it the fantastic track it was if he hadn't turned it over to David Z. and let him make the basic record. And many would probably argue he never was much good at picking singles at any point in his career.

------- He picked "When Doves Cry" as a single and WB hated it. It went on to sell over a million copies. You newbies need to do your research.

appleseed said:

skywalker said:

Prince IS The Time.

Exactly. I don't know why others don't see/hear/feel that. Condensate was the best album Prince has ghost-orchestrated to date.

--]] Because it is B.S. It is a good CD but it does not touch Lotus/Flower/ News or even the Rainbow Children.

laurarichardson said:

EddieC said:

Singles are available where people buy music; not just where fans who look for every possible related twitter feed can find them, or even people who read internet music-blogs. In the old days, that would have meant in the shops; today--the real download stores: iTunes, Amazon--you know, where they sell music to the masses. These are not singles; they're barely even releases. Sure, they're available to anyone in the world, but they're not where anyone could see them. A single mention of the website on one late night show is not promotion--how many people watching even noticed what Jimmy Fallon said? Andy's album was released. These things, while they've been mentioned in Rolling Stone and other places, really haven't been. We might be paying for some of them, but this is still intended to achieve a bit of "buzz," not the full on push that a "single" would suggest. Now, if his interest is mainly touring, it may never get to that point.

As for whether Prince thinks "Screwdriver" is the next "Kiss"--I doubt he does; but it works better live than any live version of "Kiss" has for me. And Prince couldn't judge a song back then, either. He wasn't interested enough in "Kiss" to even arrange the thing before he gave it away to Mazarati, and I don't for a moment think he would have ever done anything with it to make it the fantastic track it was if he hadn't turned it over to David Z. and let him make the basic record. And many would probably argue he never was much good at picking singles at any point in his career.

------- He picked "When Doves Cry" as a single and WB hated it. It went on to sell over a million copies. You newbies need to do your research.

It doesn't take research to have the feeling that many single choices were off--a frequent topic here on the .org (and I've been reading since day one, even if I haven't been posting). It's almost a standard complaint--not one that I myself was making, however--I just said many would argue the point.

EddieC said:

laurarichardson said:

------- He picked "When Doves Cry" as a single and WB hated it. It went on to sell over a million copies. You newbies need to do your research.

It doesn't take research to have the feeling that many single choices were off--a frequent topic here on the .org (and I've been reading since day one, even if I haven't been posting). It's almost a standard complaint--not one that I myself was making, however--I just said many would argue the point. The two follow-up singles ("Mountains" and "Anotherloverholenyohead") might be part of such an argument.

EddieC said:

laurarichardson said:

------- He picked "When Doves Cry" as a single and WB hated it. It went on to sell over a million copies. You newbies need to do your research.

It doesn't take research to have the feeling that many single choices were off--a frequent topic here on the .org (and I've been reading since day one, even if I haven't been posting). It's almost a standard complaint--not one that I myself was making, however--I just said many would argue the point.

--------------- It was not about being off it was about taking risk which has been discussed many times.

cbarnes3121 said:

u can get yo bitch ass on here and rant and think i give a hot fuck to how u feel about what i say ?? u must of died and landed in hell cuz i wil always speak my mind if u dont like what i say fuck u to the fullest

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