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Thread started 09/24/12 8:49pm

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Prince is the all time , greatest genius of our generation....he is unstoppable, unsurpassable, immesurable

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Reply #1 posted 09/24/12 8:56pm

Toofunkyinhere

I'd probably have to give that title to Paul McCartney to be honest.

We're here, might as well get into it.
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Reply #2 posted 09/24/12 8:58pm

Graycap23

Yes.............

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Reply #3 posted 09/24/12 9:42pm

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Uh....no. neutral

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Reply #4 posted 09/24/12 9:51pm

datdude

Toofunkyinhere said:

I'd probably have to give that title to Paul McCartney to be honest.

hells naw! Paul McCartney!! puhleez. songwriting props sure, but everything else.....

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Reply #5 posted 09/24/12 10:07pm

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"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #6 posted 09/24/12 10:09pm

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No, I disagree.. razz

Only the albums on Warner Bros. 1978 to 1995 showed us the "greatest Prince, genius of a generation etc"...

Prince albums post 1995 showed an "average Prince", the long time period 1996-2010 is weak (speaking about his albums).

However:

Noone could beat Prince in 1980 to 1988, noone.

9 excellent albums in a row, from Dirty Mind to Lovesexy, (incl. the bootleg mania of The Black Album and incl. the 2 "genius" double albums 1999 & SOTT).

But... the 1980's are so very loooong ago.

I miss it so much. sad

Prince 4Ever. heart
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Reply #7 posted 09/25/12 1:22am

SuperSoulFight
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^So you keep telling us. But you do have a point. I admire Prince a LOT as a musician, but as a songwriter he doesn't seem to have a awful lot left to say.
But at least he's funkier than Macca!
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Reply #8 posted 09/25/12 1:25am

NouveauDance

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Give it a rest.

We're all here because we love the music and following his career, but cool off on the sycophancy. He is stoppable, he is surpassable, he is mesurable.

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Reply #9 posted 09/25/12 1:51am

funkyhead

Bowie came first.cool

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Reply #10 posted 09/25/12 2:21am

waynemusic1

Prince don't have anything to prove anymore. His catalog is in the top ten of all time. He is established as one of the greats. He has set the bar for this generation of musicians to have to exceed. This is from a guy that the critics wrote of in 1978. From a guy that was booed in 1979-80 when opening for the Stones. From a guy that single handedly wrote his own, changed his name, reemerged and hasn't slowed down since...Why don't y'all appreciate the blessing of having a true real musician around with longevity and versatility and originality. Prince did it all back then..The rest of the industry still has to catch up..
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Reply #11 posted 09/25/12 5:07am

vitriol

Fantastic!

A new immature asslicker who doesn't know what he's talking about.... confused

And I love the myriad of wealthy reasons and details he gave us to support his very intelligent claim.

[Edited 9/25/12 5:09am]

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Reply #12 posted 09/25/12 5:19am

OldFriends4Sal
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waynemusic1 said:

Prince don't have anything to prove anymore. His catalog is in the top ten of all time. He is established as one of the greats. He has set the bar for this generation of musicians to have to exceed. This is from a guy that the critics wrote of in 1978. From a guy that was booed in 1979-80 when opening for the Stones. From a guy that single handedly wrote his own, changed his name, reemerged and hasn't slowed down since...Why don't y'all appreciate the blessing of having a true real musician around with longevity and versatility and originality. Prince did it all back then..The rest of the industry still has to catch up..

He set he bar high for himself as well

changing the name isn't impressive, many musicians do it

and yeah he has slowed down, and that's ok, 1981-1986 Prince and band new album every year bsides and long version, concert videos to accompany 2 movies the Time(3 albums) Vanity 6, Apollonia 6 Sheila E(3 albums) the Family, Mazarati and 1985/86 have the larges back catalogue of music (most unreleased) because he had so much on his plate

It's ok that he hasn't or can't do that again

And we do appreciate Prince, Just because we may disagree with the topic line doesn't mean we don't. He's not the greatest genius, he is 1 of many others (in the area of music) there are geniuses of all different lifestyles and genre

gen·ius (jnys)

n. pl. gen·ius·es
1.
a. Extraordinary intellectual and creative power.
b. A person of extraordinary intellect and talent: "One is not born a genius, one becomes a genius" (Simone de Beauvoir).
c. A person who has an exceptionally high intelligence quotient, typically above 140.
2.
a. A strong natural talent, aptitude, or inclination: has a genius for choosing the right words.
b. One who has such a talent or inclination: a genius at diplomacy.
3. The prevailing spirit or distinctive character, as of a place, a person, or an era
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Reply #13 posted 09/25/12 5:24am

OldFriends4Sal
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purplethunder3121 said:

Unless any of us were alive in his time, I don't think he could be considered a genius of our generation lol anyone here in their late 80's - 90's ? any 100 yr old Prince fans hehehe

Could he be considered our generation? 14 March 1879 – 18 April 1955

gen·er·a·tion (jn-rshn)

n.
a. A group of individuals born and living about the same time.
b. A group of generally contemporaneous individuals regarded as having common cultural or social characteristics and attitudes
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Reply #14 posted 09/25/12 5:24am

Marrk

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Depends on what generation you're from. In my lifetime, i'd put Stevie & Bowie first. Their runs were better than Prince's IMO. Bowie is far more iconic, Stevie more respected.

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Reply #15 posted 09/25/12 5:33am

Fonkyman

thedance said:

No, I disagree.. razz

Only the albums on Warner Bros. 1978 to 1995 showed us the "greatest Prince, genius of a generation etc"...

Prince albums post 1995 showed an "average Prince", the long time period 1996-2010 is weak (speaking about his albums).

However:

Noone could beat Prince in 1980 to 1988, noone.

9 excellent albums in a row, from Dirty Mind to Lovesexy, (incl. the bootleg mania of The Black Album and incl. the 2 "genius" double albums 1999 & SOTT).

But... the 1980's are so very loooong ago.

I miss it so much. sad

Bang on. Though I'd say he started waning around '90.

There I was thinking this was a jokey arse-licking thread too.

I shoulda known. lol

[Edited 9/25/12 6:00am]

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Reply #16 posted 09/25/12 6:09am

RodeoSchro

I guess it depends on what generation you're from.

Since Prince and I are almost the same age, and are therefore certainly of the same generation, I would agree with you.

If I was 10 years older, I'd probably agree with Paul McCartney or John Lennon. Twenty years older and I'd likely go with Elvis.

If I was 10 years younger, then that means I'd have come of age during grunge/rap and therefore it would be impossible to list a greatest genius, as there were none.

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Reply #17 posted 09/25/12 6:11am

Marrk

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Fonkyman said:

thedance said:

No, I disagree.. razz

Only the albums on Warner Bros. 1978 to 1995 showed us the "greatest Prince, genius of a generation etc"...

Prince albums post 1995 showed an "average Prince", the long time period 1996-2010 is weak (speaking about his albums).

However:

Noone could beat Prince in 1980 to 1988, noone.

9 excellent albums in a row, from Dirty Mind to Lovesexy, (incl. the bootleg mania of The Black Album and incl. the 2 "genius" double albums 1999 & SOTT).

But... the 1980's are so very loooong ago.

I miss it so much. sad

Bang on. Though I'd say he started waning around '90.

There I was thinking this was a jokey arse-licking thread too.

I shoulda known. lol

[Edited 9/25/12 6:00am]

Do people really think 'For You', 'Prince' and 'Controversy' were all that? I'd say Controversy was a step down from Dirty Mind. ATWIAD (after 1999 and PR) is another that doesn't figure that highly on polls amongst fans either. You can poke holes in Prince's 'great run'.

For the record i love all those albums but yeah, i have my doubts.

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Reply #18 posted 09/25/12 6:24am

OldFriends4Sal
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Marrk said:

Fonkyman said:

Bang on. Though I'd say he started waning around '90.

There I was thinking this was a jokey arse-licking thread too.

I shoulda known. lol

[Edited 9/25/12 6:00am]

Do people really think 'For You', 'Prince' and 'Controversy' were all that? I'd say Controversy was a step down from Dirty Mind. ATWIAD (after 1999 and PR) is another that doesn't figure that highly on polls amongst fans either. You can poke holes in Prince's 'great run'.

For the record i love all those albums but yeah, i have my doubts.

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For U & Prince, definately. Ur looking at the start of his genius

Controversy, yes was it the most cohesive? prob not, but Controversy, Let's Work, Do Me Baby, Private Joy, Sexuality...

ATWIAD just because it wasn't like 1999/PR doesn't make it genius, which it is, and many Prince fans love that album + bsides and it showed a range of creativity that took us beyond what we thought Prince could bring out, without it there would have been no SOTT

I mean if we are talking about 'musical' genius, yes that period was his greatest

it's not just his albums but the whole of the era

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Reply #19 posted 09/25/12 6:48am

Fonkyman

I must've taken the wrong tablets today or something?

I agree almost totally with everything everyone said...

*Nurse! Nurse!!!* fuse

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Reply #20 posted 09/25/12 7:24am

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Look at this ding dongs stats:

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Reply #21 posted 09/25/12 7:48am

TrevorAyer

RodeoSchro said:

If I was 10 years younger, then that means I'd have come of age during grunge/rap and therefore it would be impossible to list a greatest genius, as there were none.

ahem ...

robert smith

black francis/frank black

perry ferrell

ani difranco

glenn danzig

kurt cobain

bjork

and lets not forget

lou reed

iggy pop

bob dylan

john lennon

stevie wonder

george clinton

sly stone

james mutha fuckin brown

jimi hendrix

led zep

notorious big

nas

jay z

dr. dre

fiona apple

phish

sting

david byrne

prince can stand among the greats sure .. but you are missing out on some great music if you think prince is the end all be all .. and the fact is most of prince music at this point belongs in the rubbish .. and that is very sad indeed

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Reply #22 posted 09/25/12 7:51am

Graycap23

TrevorAyer said:

RodeoSchro said:

If I was 10 years younger, then that means I'd have come of age during grunge/rap and therefore it would be impossible to list a greatest genius, as there were none.

ahem ...

robert smith

black francis/frank black

perry ferrell

ani difranco

glenn danzig

kurt cobain

bjork

and lets not forget

lou reed

iggy pop

bob dylan

john lennon

stevie wonder

george clinton

sly stone

james mutha fuckin brown

jimi hendrix

led zep

notorious big

nas

jay z

dr. dre

fiona apple

phish

sting

david byrne

prince can stand among the greats sure .. but you are missing out on some great music if you think prince is the end all be all .. and the fact is most of prince music at this point belongs in the rubbish .. and that is very sad indeed

robert smith

black francis/frank black

perry ferrell

ani difranco

glenn danzig

kurt cobain

bjork

and lets not forget

lou reed

iggy pop

bob dylan

john lennon

stevie wonder

george clinton

sly stone

james mutha fuckin brown

jimi hendrix

led zep

notorious big

nas

jay z

dr. dre

fiona apple

phish

sting

david byrne

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Reply #23 posted 09/25/12 7:57am

rdhull

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Graycap23 said:

TrevorAyer said:

ahem ...

robert smith

black francis/frank black

perry ferrell

ani difranco

glenn danzig

kurt cobain

bjork

and lets not forget

lou reed

iggy pop

bob dylan

john lennon

stevie wonder

george clinton

sly stone

james mutha fuckin brown

jimi hendrix

led zep

notorious big

nas

jay z

dr. dre

fiona apple

phish

sting

david byrne

prince can stand among the greats sure .. but you are missing out on some great music if you think prince is the end all be all .. and the fact is most of prince music at this point belongs in the rubbish .. and that is very sad indeed

robert smith

black francis/frank black

perry ferrell

ani difranco

glenn danzig

kurt cobain

bjork

and lets not forget

lou reed

iggy pop

bob dylan

john lennon

stevie wonder

george clinton

sly stone

james mutha fuckin brown

jimi hendrix

led zep

notorious big

nas

jay z

dr. dre

fiona apple

phish

sting

david byrne

lol

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #24 posted 09/25/12 10:26am

Fonkyman

Graycap23 said:

TrevorAyer said:

ahem ...

robert smith

black francis/frank black

perry ferrell

ani difranco

glenn danzig

kurt cobain

bjork

and lets not forget

lou reed

iggy pop

bob dylan

john lennon

stevie wonder

george clinton

sly stone

james mutha fuckin brown

jimi hendrix

led zep

notorious big

nas

jay z

dr. dre

fiona apple

phish

sting

david byrne

prince can stand among the greats sure .. but you are missing out on some great music if you think prince is the end all be all .. and the fact is most of prince music at this point belongs in the rubbish .. and that is very sad indeed

robert smith

black francis/frank black

perry ferrell

ani difranco

glenn danzig

kurt cobain

bjork

and lets not forget

lou reed

iggy pop

bob dylan

john lennon

stevie wonder

george clinton

sly stone

james mutha fuckin brown

jimi hendrix

led zep

notorious big

nas

jay z

dr. dre

fiona apple

phish

sting

david byrne

Couldn't agree more... I did say "Shoulda known".

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Reply #25 posted 09/25/12 10:45am

TrevorAyer

really??? y'all have super bad taste ... shit I expected more out of prince fans .. then again I expect more out of prince rolleyes

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Reply #26 posted 09/25/12 12:20pm

Darshy

Graycap23 said:

TrevorAyer said:

ahem ...

robert smith

black francis/frank black

perry ferrell

ani difranco

glenn danzig

kurt cobain

bjork

and lets not forget

lou reed

iggy pop

bob dylan

john lennon

stevie wonder

george clinton

sly stone

james mutha fuckin brown

jimi hendrix

led zep

notorious big

nas

jay z

dr. dre

fiona apple

phish

sting

david byrne

prince can stand among the greats sure .. but you are missing out on some great music if you think prince is the end all be all .. and the fact is most of prince music at this point belongs in the rubbish .. and that is very sad indeed

robert smith

black francis/frank black

perry ferrell

ani difranco

glenn danzig

kurt cobain

bjork

and lets not forget

lou reed

iggy pop

bob dylan

john lennon

stevie wonder

george clinton

sly stone

james mutha fuckin brown

jimi hendrix

led zep

notorious big

nas

jay z

dr. dre

fiona apple

phish

sting

david byrne

Spot on. Btw, personally, I can't see how you can be a Prince fan and also like Dylan. Despite being from the same state, they're polar opposites. Prince is one of the most exciting artists ever. Dylan, on the other hand, is dreary, plodding and a miserable so and so, with a voice to match, and lets face it, the most overrated singer-songwriter.

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Reply #27 posted 09/25/12 12:46pm

TrevorAyer

i've actually been in quite a dylan phase lately .. he is great .. it blows my mind when people can't understand how good dylan really is .. prince is a pop musician who did some meaningful music for a period of time .. dylan is a meaningful musician who happen to have some pop appeal for some time .. hendrix, the beatles and i am sure prince and certainly myself all agree dylan is right up there with the best of them .. cool

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Reply #28 posted 09/25/12 1:17pm

Marrk

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TrevorAyer said:

i've actually been in quite a dylan phase lately .. he is great .. it blows my mind when people can't understand how good dylan really is .. prince is a pop musician who did some meaningful music for a period of time .. dylan is a meaningful musician who happen to have some pop appeal for some time .. hendrix, the beatles and i am sure prince and certainly myself all agree dylan is right up there with the best of them .. cool

I guess some people just can't get past his voice! It literally comes down to that. rolleyes

I bet it grinds P's gears he'll always be the second most important musician out of Minnesota.lol

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Reply #29 posted 09/25/12 1:56pm

OldFriends4Sal
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Marrk said:

TrevorAyer said:

i've actually been in quite a dylan phase lately .. he is great .. it blows my mind when people can't understand how good dylan really is .. prince is a pop musician who did some meaningful music for a period of time .. dylan is a meaningful musician who happen to have some pop appeal for some time .. hendrix, the beatles and i am sure prince and certainly myself all agree dylan is right up there with the best of them .. cool

I guess some people just can't get past his voice! It literally comes down to that. rolleyes

I bet it grinds P's gears he'll always be the second most important musician out of Minnesota.lol

PRINCE TALKS

ROLLING STONE (1985)

Prince is fiddling with the tape deck inside the T-Bird. On low volume comes his unreleased "Old Friends 4 Sale," an arrow-to-the-heart rock ballad about trust and loss. Unlike "Positively 4th Street" -- which Bob Dylan reputedly named after a nearby Minneapolis block -- the lyrics are sad, not bitter. "I don't know too much about Dylan," says Prince, "but I respect him a lot. 'All Along the Watchtower' is my favorite of his. I heard it first from Jimi Hendrix."

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