imago said:

Not a chance in hell.

Prince is brilliant and driven, and those types of people don't stop until the drop.

Besides, as a live act he may be great, but as soon as he realizes that the aweful black dye job on his hair no longer give you the illusion of youth---as soon as he has wrinkles far to deep to be covering up with makeup or smoothed with botox....As soon as it's too much trouble to cover up the liver spots......His ass is going to be back in the studio full time pumping out brilliant jems.

I think you are on to something here...as soon as he stops trying to live up to and maintain the "prince" image, he may very well get back to some brilliant song writting. Unless of course he has simply run out of ideas. There are only so many words, so many notes and sounds to work with. After 30 plus years of putting out way more material than most artists, he may have simply exhausted his creative possibilities.

I hope not.

jayARDAHB said:

funkomatic said:

I've only listened to Lotusflow3r twice. So it's pretty difficult for me to go into detail after several years went by. But I can remember it being a very predictable castrated version of TRC with conventional songwriting and lots of guitar noodling. Mostly a rehash of old ideas, but just not that strong.

That's exactly what I do because it kinda hurts my ears to listen to music just created for the sake of it.

After reading thr responses, I just realized get I had forgotten as to where I was posting... I'm afraid that the org is more often than not a place where deep discussions of music are not to be had. To put songs like $, wall of Berlin and boom in the same space as mountains, 17 days or when doves cry or little red corvette is insane but a good indication of just how blinded and insular some of these folks' musical tastes are. Sure the record demonstrates just how freakingly awesome prince plays guitar but let's not dupe ourselves into thinking that there are incredible songs on that record. Colonized Mind is dope as hell though... It was disappointing to hear that the chords and overall feel/sound were borrowed heavily from an older track by another artist. Anyhow, I'll stop tryin now J

You're delusional. We have deep discussions about his music all of the time. Then there are always egomaniacs like you whom think your opinion trumps all and those who disagree are "insular". So let's just pick and choose YOUR favorite songs of all time and conclude that those must be the best Prince songs because, well, you said so. Get ahold of yourself.

Maybe you should wipe the mold out of your ear every time you listen to those new songs expecting them to tickle you the way the old ones did.

NouveauDance said:

That last part is classic!!!!!

I isn't all dark skies but it hasn't been sunny in a very long time.

Spinlight said:

On screw off... It's posters like you who come in and say nothing important tht leave this ace feeling tired, old and almost useless.

This is a board built around one of he last massive pop music talents and all some of his fans do is make excuses for a reality that even Princ knows.

jayARDAHB said:

Spinlight said:

You're delusional. We have deep discussions about his music all of the time. Then there are always egomaniacs like you whom think your opinion trumps all and those who disagree are "insular". So let's just pick and choose YOUR favorite songs of all time and conclude that those must be the best Prince songs because, well, you said so. Get ahold of yourself.

Maybe you should wipe the mold out of your ear every time you listen to those new songs expecting them to tickle you the way the old ones did.

On screw off... It's posters like you who come in and say nothing important tht leave this ace feeling tired, old and almost useless. This is a board built around one of he last massive pop music talents and all some of his fans do is make excuses for a reality that even Princ knows.

Then by all means, log the fuck off.

Some of you need to join together and start your own website called princeinthe80s.org.

If u do decide 2 release another album prince, please make it available 4 all of us, not just a UK paper.

How about a Blu-ray audio release 4 those of us who still appreciate quality.

80spfantwp said:

Lotusflow3r was a fantastic and artistic album imo

OK, maybe it would've faired better without Mplsound or Elixer (I can see that Prince continues to need to quality control

But Boom, Walls of berlin, $, Colonized Mind, Feel Good......, 4ever, Dreamer, Love Like Jazz are all quality tracks

Clearly the whole site debacle soured the experience. only wish he had made the site more accessible, cheaper (if not free to enter). Maybe then more would've joined.

But no, I dont agree that he is done as a studio act. He simply needs to quality control and stop devaluing releases with the free giveaway nonsense and join the digital release age and get his stuff out there to the international market and promote it properly. of course it would also help to perform said tracks live!

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BOOM perfectly said

djThunderfunk said:

Some of you need to join together and start your own website called princeinthe80s.org.

SPYZFAN1 said:

J...In a way I kind of hear what you are saying. The classic titles you mentioned were coming from a young guy who was wild, free and pushing the envelope. For some of us those songs are attached to our youth. There's some folks who thought with the name change/being married/WB fiasco/SLAVE on his face, etc he lost his edge and his mind.

There's some fans that I know that hated "T.G.E" when it came out. They wanted to know where was the next "Erotic City" or "Luv Or $". Now they consider "T.G.E" a classic.

P is mature and has a different train of thought and lifestyle now. I thought "Lotus" was great and it was a good return to form. It also made up for the lackluster CD "Planet Earth"..(just my opinion). I guess when an artist gets to a certain point the subject matter starts to change and they find (or run out of) different things to sing about.

I liked "Sticky Like Glue" and "Lauvaux"..(did I spell that right?)..Those 2 had the classic sounds of 80's Prince to me. Who knows?..He still may have a new few tricks and gems hidden away. Hopefully they'll be on his next CD.

"Colonized Mind" was borrowed? I kinda got the "Jimi/Watchtower" vibe from that one.

right there is the problem a lot of prince fans have on here ..they want that same 24-30 year old man at the age of 54 still and don't he dare move from that age. hence his setlist in his shows .but prince isnt the only artist 2 come up with this same problem

Or join a bootleg site because that's the only reason they log on the org.

djThunderfunk said:

Some of you need to join together and start your own website called princeinthe80s.org.

NeonCraxx said:

If that's the case, then Prince.org needs to change to Prince2000s+officialreleasesonly.org. And then enjoy the threads all 5 of you would have.

You guys can say and come up with the dumbest shit ever, I tell ya.

djThunderfunk said:

Some of you need to join together and start your own website called princeinthe80s.org.

Yet you let all of it get to you.

I thought you were ignoring me. That worked out well.

alexnvrmnd777 said:

If that's the case, then Prince.org needs to change to Prince2000s+officialreleasesonly.org. And then enjoy the threads all 5 of you would have. You guys can say and come up with the dumbest shit ever, I tell ya.

alexnvrmnd777 said:

NeonCraxx said:

Or join a bootleg site because that's the only reason they log on the org.

If that's the case, then Prince.org needs to change to Prince2000s+officialreleasesonly.org. And then enjoy the threads all 5 of you would have. You guys can say and come up with the dumbest shit ever, I tell ya.

Screw you, I LOVES me some bootlegs!

HonestMan13 said:

djThunderfunk said:

Some of you need to join together and start your own website called princeinthe80s.org.

As funny as it sounds, it definitely would be the more successful website.

Yes he is pretty much done as as studio artist, a song-writing artist becuase he is old now and has lost his creative spark.

Prince used to compose and record all those songs because he coudln't help doing so. He had to create and those new compositions flowed out of him.

But he's "tapped out" and probably doesn't have anything else he feels he wants to say, musically. There's no shame in that but that's what happens when you get old.

And for the record, i think "Wall of Berlin" is as good as most of his great 80s material. Maybe he will write another nice song or two but they will be fewer and farther between then ever before.

The party doesn't last forever..accept it and deal with it.

I realy like what he released since his "comeback in the spotlight"!!

Musicology and 3121 are among my fav Prince albums, they really have that Prince

feel we all recognize. Planet Earth and 20Ten are good albums with some great tracks.

Never really got in2 Lotusflower but some good songs, I prefer MNPLS!!! Funky!!

But although I prefer the 00-period over the 90´s, it´s a fact that his 80´s and early 90´s material

got me from the first listen. Even now when I discover an 80´s outtake it sounds right from

the first note!! Maybe because it just reminds me at a great period in my life.

Anyway, it really doesn´t matter, Rolling Stones, Metallica, George Michael and other "older" artist

released their best albums decades ago but are still better live than the hitmachines from these days.

NeonCraxx said:

Or join a bootleg site because that's the only reason they log on the org.

djThunderfunk said:

Some of you need to join together and start your own website called princeinthe80s.org.

I don't know why u hate bootlegs so much but without them, prince would have been out of the public eye years ago

djThunderfunk said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:

NeonCraxx said: If that's the case, then Prince.org needs to change to Prince2000s+officialreleasesonly.org. And then enjoy the threads all 5 of you would have. You guys can say and come up with the dumbest shit ever, I tell ya.

Screw you, I LOVES me some bootlegs!

he was talking 2 neon not u dj ..i'm like u i love bootlegs

L4OATheOriginal said:

NeonCraxx said:

Or join a bootleg site because that's the only reason they log on the org.

I don't know why u hate bootlegs so much but without them, prince would have been out of the public eye years ago

L4OA - wrong! Fatally flawed argument - otherwise he would be making money live off of playing boot tracks wouldn't he. As it is he's not.

Prince's hardcore fanbase is likely much smaller than it was even in the 90's - Lotusfailure site went some way to proving that.

It's us as the hardcore fanbase who have turned to bootlegs to satisfy our own nostalgia

agenda - not Prince.

Paisley4u said:

I agree with you on all points...

The older material was quirky and catchy and full of life and personality... The last 16 years or so have had some Outstanding material but as a whole have been rather disappointing for me...

To your last point, music and performance isn't a competition... Prince is my guy but he appears to have lost t
he magic that made songs like Power Fantastic or Another Lonely Christmas or Hello or Sign O The Times.

Oh well... Thanks for sharing

80spfantwp said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

I don't know why u hate bootlegs so much but without them, prince would have been out of the public eye years ago

L4OA - wrong! Fatally flawed argument - otherwise he would be making money live off of playing boot tracks wouldn't he. As it is he's not.

Prince's hardcore fanbase is likely much smaller than it was even in the 90's - Lotusfailure site went some way to proving that.

It's us as the hardcore fanbase who have turned to bootlegs to satisfy our own nostalgia

agenda - not Prince.

if it wasn't for bootlegs tho his legacy as a live performer wouldn't have been that known. then being able 2 hear vault material increased that awareness. now since the well is dry he's living off the greatest hits

jayARDAHB said:

Paisley4u said:

I realy like what he released since his "comeback in the spotlight"!!

Musicology and 3121 are among my fav Prince albums, they really have that Prince

feel we all recognize. Planet Earth and 20Ten are good albums with some great tracks.

Never really got in2 Lotusflower but some good songs, I prefer MNPLS!!! Funky!!

But although I prefer the 00-period over the 90´s, it´s a fact that his 80´s and early 90´s material

got me from the first listen. Even now when I discover an 80´s outtake it sounds right from

the first note!! Maybe because it just reminds me at a great period in my life.

Anyway, it really doesn´t matter, Rolling Stones, Metallica, George Michael and other "older" artist

released their best albums decades ago but are still better live than the hitmachines from these days.

[Edited 6/17/12 0:46am]

I agree with you on all points... The older material was quirky and catchy and full of life and personality... The last 16 years or so have had some Outstanding material but as a whole have been rather disappointing for me... To your last point, music and performance isn't a competition... Prince is my guy but he appears to have lost t he magic that made songs like Power Fantastic or Another Lonely Christmas or Hello or Sign O The Times. Oh well... Thanks for sharing

Then why do so many fans insist upon comparing Prince's recent work with his past work? Why does he has to continually surpass himself to satisfy some fans? If it's not a competition then let all of his works stand on their own with lamenting about how 20ten isn't as good as 1999.

"Some of you need to join together and start your own website called princeinthe80's.org.

CLASSIC!! (lol)..Best reply of the month. A site where there's a forum for every year discussing every record/tour/movie, etc....but I don't think it would be more succesful than the orginal org.

Sometimes I think if the org (and today's technology) had been around in the golden 80's, some fans would still have Prince complaints.

SPYZFAN1 said:

"Some of you need to join together and start your own website called princeinthe80's.org.

CLASSIC!! (lol)..Best reply of the month. A site where there's a forum for every year discussing every record/tour/movie, etc....but I don't think it would be more succesful than the orginal org.

Sometimes I think if the org (and today's technology) had been around in the golden 80's, some fans would still have Prince complaints.

Let them complain.

Let them listen 2 other artist like that boring ass Adele.

[Edited 6/17/12 7:39am]

L4OATheOriginal said:

80spfantwp said:

L4OA - wrong! Fatally flawed argument - otherwise he would be making money live off of playing boot tracks wouldn't he. As it is he's not.

Prince's hardcore fanbase is likely much smaller than it was even in the 90's - Lotusfailure site went some way to proving that.

It's us as the hardcore fanbase who have turned to bootlegs to satisfy our own nostalgia

agenda - not Prince.

if it wasn't for bootlegs tho his legacy as a live performer wouldn't have been that known. then being able 2 hear vault material increased that awareness. now since the well is dry he's living off the greatest hits

ok, I concur with you on this point. However, as Lotusflow3r (disc 1) shows, he continues to record some gems - which can still hold up to some of his work from way back. So wouldn't go writing him off just yet

Who said I hated bootlegs? I own them.

And the bolded part is complete bullshit. Prince as a live act has been getting quite a lot of buzz and grossing a lot of money due to sold out concerts. Bootlegs have done none of that.

L4OATheOriginal said:

NeonCraxx said:

Or join a bootleg site because that's the only reason they log on the org.

I don't know why u hate bootlegs so much but without them, prince would have been out of the public eye years ago

NeonCraxx said:

Who said I hated bootlegs? I own them.

And the bolded part is complete bullshit. Prince as a live act has been getting quite a lot of buzz and grossing a lot of money due to sold out concerts. Bootlegs have done none of that.

L4OATheOriginal said:

I don't know why u hate bootlegs so much but without them, prince would have been out of the public eye years ago

The only Prince bootleg to get mainstream notice was the Black Album beyond that it's a diehard/hardcore thing. The average Prince fan isn't tracking down every show and all the unreleased material. I see this when I DJ the Prince party in June and even when I play boots on my CD player at work. People don't know the songs from jack most of the time. The occasional diehard fan will know the songs most people are astoundeed he's got that much material on the shelves.