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"Mutiny/Ice Cream Castles" Rehearsal Jam Streams on Dr Funkenberry

I just can't believe all the things people say !
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Reply #1 posted 04/22/12 10:14pm

CerpinTaxt

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Damn, you beat me to it! It's only been up for three minutes.

TIGHT.

Loving the Ice Cream Castles interpolation in the beginning.

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Reply #2 posted 04/22/12 10:20pm

serpan99

Gotta love it...how cool that Prince is sharing these jams with us thru DrFunkenberry! biggrin

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Reply #3 posted 04/22/12 10:24pm

NuPwrSoul

The Ice Cream Castles riff is kinda tight.

By sending this to Terry Lewis & fDeluxe, I wonder if this is Prince's way of affirming his ownership of the music, not only in terms of copyright, but also in terms of "pwning."

"That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32
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Reply #4 posted 04/22/12 10:51pm

RRA

NuPwrSoul said:

The Ice Cream Castles riff is kinda tight.

By sending this to Terry Lewis & fDeluxe, I wonder if this is Prince's way of affirming his ownership of the music, not only in terms of copyright, but also in terms of "pwning."

Ditto.

Unless him playing "Cool" also wasn't meant as a swipe at the reformed Time.

Anyway back to topic, haterz on this jam will flood the thread in 3, 2, 1....

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Reply #5 posted 04/22/12 10:57pm

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I agree it's a swipe at both FDeluxe & Original 7. And those proclaiming the departure of "Brother Larry" may have been a bit premature... sounds like him on the 2nd verse. sad

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Reply #6 posted 04/22/12 10:58pm

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dancing jig

Sounds like he chewed out someone. But then that is

what rehearsals are all about.....to get it right.

No matter your age, pursue your dreams so that you will LIVE.
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Reply #7 posted 04/22/12 11:05pm

RRA

mirrorrorrimage said:

I agree it's a swipe at both FDeluxe & Original 7. And those proclaiming the departure of "Brother Larry" may have been a bit premature... sounds like him on the 2nd verse. sad

With that arrogance, you wouldn't think he owes some perfume punks $4 million. But his control is threatened, even if everybody else doesn't care.

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Reply #8 posted 04/22/12 11:16pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

......U have been answered with a live rehearsal "MasterPiece".... O(+

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #9 posted 04/22/12 11:16pm

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'tis very much a jam whomever he's talking to and for whatever purpose ~ its a party yall!

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Reply #10 posted 04/22/12 11:22pm

bluefish

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Why do people think this is a DIG at FDeluxe and O7? Just because Prince picked Mutiny/Ice Cream Castles as the song(s)? I hate how most folks here automatically go to the negative interpretation of things. rolleyes

Now, back to lurking

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Reply #11 posted 04/22/12 11:25pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

rolleyes

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #12 posted 04/22/12 11:25pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

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eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #13 posted 04/22/12 11:28pm

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I agree. Not sure why because there are also some "lyrics/statements" that could be interpreted as very positive, like 1,2,3,4, everybody get on the dance floor... oh well.

Besides, it seems odd for anyone to assume to know the context, content of any conversations or communications had between Prince, other artists, friends, family, etc. its just too silly.

bluefish said:

Why do people think this is a DIG at FDeluxe and O7? Just because Prince picked Mutiny/Ice Cream Castles as the song(s)? I hate how most folks here automatically go to the negative interpretation of things. rolleyes

Now, back to lurking

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Reply #14 posted 04/22/12 11:34pm

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I'm not feelin it

My name is Naz!!! and I have a windmill where my brain is supposed to be.....

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Reply #15 posted 04/22/12 11:35pm

bluefish

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ScissorsRockPaper said:

I agree. Not sure why because there are also some "lyrics/statements" that could be interpreted as very positive, like 1,2,3,4, everybody get on the dance floor... oh well.

Besides, it seems odd for anyone to assume to know the context, content of any conversations or communications had between Prince, other artists, friends, family, etc. its just too silly.

bluefish said:

Why do people think this is a DIG at FDeluxe and O7? Just because Prince picked Mutiny/Ice Cream Castles as the song(s)? I hate how most folks here automatically go to the negative interpretation of things. rolleyes

Now, back to lurking

yes thank U

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Reply #16 posted 04/22/12 11:43pm

Llanishenlad

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cool

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Reply #17 posted 04/22/12 11:45pm

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thats what im talking abouttt biggrin

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Reply #18 posted 04/22/12 11:46pm

NuPwrSoul

bluefish said:

Why do people think this is a DIG at FDeluxe and O7? Just because Prince picked Mutiny/Ice Cream Castles as the song(s)? I hate how most folks here automatically go to the negative interpretation of things. rolleyes

Now, back to lurking

Well if I recall correctly "Mutiny" was originally a dig at Morris for leaving the origina Time.

If this were just a rehearsal, I wouldn't wonder about it. BUT the context matters: he sent this to both fDeluxe & Terry Lewis--after Terry Lewis reportedly inquired about opening acts in Australia.

When has Prince ever sent either of them music / much less rehearsal of songs they once performed? (or in the case of The Time was about them?)

I don't think it's a stretch... on the positive side, he could be saying "Oh y'all want some of this... then bring it on... meet me in Oz." But I doubt it.

"That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32
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Reply #19 posted 04/22/12 11:48pm

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Like it alot! But why do I keep seeing links for a DAYS OF WILD?LOOSE JAM, but keep getting redirected to this ?

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Reply #20 posted 04/22/12 11:58pm

RRA

bluefish said:

Why do people think this is a DIG at FDeluxe and O7? Just because Prince picked Mutiny/Ice Cream Castles as the song(s)? I hate how most folks here automatically go to the negative interpretation of things. rolleyes

Now, back to lurking

Well-earned cynicism.

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Reply #21 posted 04/22/12 11:59pm

bluefish

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NuPwrSoul said:

bluefish said:

Why do people think this is a DIG at FDeluxe and O7? Just because Prince picked Mutiny/Ice Cream Castles as the song(s)? I hate how most folks here automatically go to the negative interpretation of things. rolleyes

Now, back to lurking

Well if I recall correctly "Mutiny" was originally a dig at Morris for leaving the origina Time.

If this were just a rehearsal, I wouldn't wonder about it. BUT the context matters: he sent this to both fDeluxe & Terry Lewis--after Terry Lewis reportedly inquired about opening acts in Australia.

When has Prince ever sent either of them music / much less rehearsal of songs they once performed? (or in the case of The Time was about them?)

I don't think it's a stretch... on the positive side, he could be saying "Oh y'all want some of this... then bring it on... meet me in Oz." But I doubt it.

I'm not discounting what you said. I guess I'm just tired of people automatically assuming the worst of Prince. That's a big reason I'm hardly ever on here anymore.

I'm not saying Prince can do no wrong, but I don't think he's as cold as some people believe him to be. shrug

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Reply #22 posted 04/23/12 12:04am

alandail

why would he make it public that this was a shot at them? We just had the interview with Jimmy Jam where he says

While we’re talking about Prince, have you and Terry every talked about producing him?

We’d love to do it. And he knows it. We’ve talked about it over the years. When we were in Minneapolis, and had our studio up there, he came by and visited one day and fell in love with Studio A, the design for which was based on a studio called Westlake. It just was a great, big, comfortable room.

And we asked him at one point, “Could we ever go through your vault and just pick out some songs and maybe mix them or do something like that?” And he said, “Yeah that’d be great. I’ll let you guys have ten songs and you can do with them what you want.” So we’ve talked about that. We’ve talked about us producing him. We’ve talked about him using our studio to record. And I think Terry might have had a conversation with him in the last couple months where some of those same things came up. So you never know. I don’t even know whether that’s something that would be successful or not, but I’d love to try it. At the end of the day, I’m probably one of the biggest Prince fans ever.

Even for Prince, who can be unpredictable at times, the theory that this is a shot at them just doesn't make sense. I personally would love to see Jam and Lews produce a Prince album. Have someone in charge who can push him a bit - someone where thee's mutual respect from the start.

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Reply #23 posted 04/23/12 12:08am

KCOOLMUZIQ

bluefish said:

NuPwrSoul said:

Well if I recall correctly "Mutiny" was originally a dig at Morris for leaving the origina Time.

If this were just a rehearsal, I wouldn't wonder about it. BUT the context matters: he sent this to both fDeluxe & Terry Lewis--after Terry Lewis reportedly inquired about opening acts in Australia.

When has Prince ever sent either of them music / much less rehearsal of songs they once performed? (or in the case of The Time was about them?)

I don't think it's a stretch... on the positive side, he could be saying "Oh y'all want some of this... then bring it on... meet me in Oz." But I doubt it.

I'm not discounting what you said. I guess I'm just tired of people automatically assuming the worst of Prince. That's a big reason I'm hardly ever on here anymore.

I'm not saying Prince can do no wrong, but I don't think he's as cold as some people believe him to be. shrug

eye didn't say that comment 2 b cold... eye am the least negative on here about Prince...

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #24 posted 04/23/12 12:11am

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sounds to me like its a thumbs up, not a thumbs down.

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Reply #25 posted 04/23/12 12:20am

bluefish

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ScissorsRockPaper said:

sounds to me like its a thumbs up, not a thumbs down.

Remember, in addition to the song, Prince sent Paul and Terry the YouTube video of the little kid saying "Thumbs up for rock and roll!" I think that's a good sign...

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Reply #26 posted 04/23/12 12:24am

serpan99

bluefish said:

ScissorsRockPaper said:

sounds to me like its a thumbs up, not a thumbs down.

Remember, in addition to the song, Prince sent Paul and Terry the YouTube video of the little kid saying "Thumbs up for rock and roll!" I think that's a good sign...

Ummm...u mean the vid of the MPLS kid that started with "I feel happy of myself"? wink

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Reply #27 posted 04/23/12 12:29am

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Sweet Jebus, this is one gigantic pile of dung. Oh, those painful "Mutiny" chants by those untalented backup singers.

Go compare this to the version on the recently freed boot of one of Prince's 1986 New York concerts.

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Reply #28 posted 04/23/12 12:39am

Paris9748430

BartVanHemelen said:

Sweet Jebus, this is one gigantic pile of dung. Oh, those painful "Mutiny" chants by those untalented backup singers.

Go compare this to the version on the recently freed boot of one of Prince's 1986 New York concerts.

Last time I checked, the calender said it was 2012, not 1986. Don't like it, fine. Go listen to those bootlegs or cry over your Trent Reznor posters.

JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!!
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Reply #29 posted 04/23/12 12:43am

Mya

Llanishenlad said:

Like it alot! But why do I keep seeing links for a DAYS OF WILD?LOOSE JAM, but keep getting redirected to this ?

Prince probably named it that to tease us, I swear nod I can't say it didn't work, either.

I was like omg when I saw that title lol

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