why not release remasters of the warner editions doubled with Prince's remasters ( if u remember he rerecorded his entire catalogue years ago) ???

this way fans win, warners cant bitch and Prince makes his share also...

luvsexy4all said:

why not release remasters of the warner editions doubled with Prince's remasters ( if u remember he rerecorded his entire catalogue years ago) ???

this way fans win, warners cant bitch and Prince makes his share also...

1. I don't think he actually re-recorded his entire catalogue, that was more of a threat...

2. He seems to have lost interest in that idea years ago.

3. He'd make his share either way, the only real thing stopping it is Prince himself.

jaawwnn said:

luvsexy4all said:

why not release remasters of the warner editions doubled with Prince's remasters ( if u remember he rerecorded his entire catalogue years ago) ???

this way fans win, warners cant bitch and Prince makes his share also...

1. I don't think he actually re-recorded his entire catalogue, that was more of a threat...

2. He seems to have lost interest in that idea years ago.

3. He'd make his share either way, the only real thing stopping it is Prince himself.

wrong

plus nobody wants to hear hat shit re-recorded (and he never did that anyways)

rdhull said:

jaawwnn said:

1. I don't think he actually re-recorded his entire catalogue, that was more of a threat...

2. He seems to have lost interest in that idea years ago.

3. He'd make his share either way, the only real thing stopping it is Prince himself.

wrong

plus nobody wants to hear hat shit re-recorded (and he never did that anyways)

jaawwnn said:

rdhull said:

wrong

plus nobody wants to hear hat shit re-recorded (and he never did that anyways)

how wrong? Are we just talking 30/35 copyright years wrong?

Prince isnt "the only real thing" stopping remasters

luvsexy4all said:

this way fans win, warners cant bitch and Prince makes his share also...

Prince makes his share any way.

Look at the bargain bins at Best Buy. You'll find Madonna remasters, Van Halen, and many others. There is just not a market for anybody other than die hards. Even the U2 remasters have not sold well. Other than Purple Rain and 1999, I can't imagine others selling at all. SOTT may have been a critical success, but it sold well under a million(remember, double albums counted as two units, making SOTT a "Platinum" album.)

CD sales are declining at a rapid pace. There has even been talk of the major labels stopping production in the next 5 years. Even if we get remasters, they will be on lower quality MP3, which even at 320k, still sound weaker than cd. Prince would probably be more interested in making an album with Shelby shouting "Put Your Hands Up," 200 times per song than worrying about remasters. I think just like other dead releases like Roadhouse Garden, Parade Live, Musicology DVD....the idea of remasters is simply dead to Prince.

stillwaiting said:

Look at the bargain bins at Best Buy. You'll find Madonna remasters, Van Halen, and many others. There is just not a market for anybody other than die hards. Even the U2 remasters have not sold well. Other than Purple Rain and 1999, I can't imagine others selling at all. SOTT may have been a critical success, but it sold well under a million(remember, double albums counted as two units, making SOTT a "Platinum" album.)

CD sales are declining at a rapid pace. There has even been talk of the major labels stopping production in the next 5 years. Even if we get remasters, they will be on lower quality MP3, which even at 320k, still sound weaker than cd. Prince would probably be more interested in making an album with Shelby shouting "Put Your Hands Up," 200 times per song than worrying about remasters. I think just like other dead releases like Roadhouse Garden, Parade Live, Musicology DVD....the idea of remasters is simply dead to Prince.

Optimism is your middle name

stillwaiting said:

Look at the bargain bins at Best Buy. You'll find Madonna remasters, Van Halen, and many others. There is just not a market for anybody other than die hards. Even the U2 remasters have not sold well. Other than Purple Rain and 1999, I can't imagine others selling at all. SOTT may have been a critical success, but it sold well under a million(remember, double albums counted as two units, making SOTT a "Platinum" album.)

CD sales are declining at a rapid pace. There has even been talk of the major labels stopping production in the next 5 years. Even if we get remasters, they will be on lower quality MP3, which even at 320k, still sound weaker than cd. Prince would probably be more interested in making an album with Shelby shouting "Put Your Hands Up," 200 times per song than worrying about remasters. I think just like other dead releases like Roadhouse Garden, Parade Live, Musicology DVD....the idea of remasters is simply dead to Prince.

The reports I've heard suggest that THIS is the last year for CDs from the major labels. I hope the info is wrong or that things change. I have issues paying for content and not getting a hardcopy with case and artwork for my $.

djThunderfunk said:

The reports I've heard suggest that THIS is the last year for CDs from the major labels

The Mayans predicted so centuries ago

PANDURITO said:

djThunderfunk said:

The reports I've heard suggest that THIS is the last year for CDs from the major labels

The Mayans predicted so centuries ago

rdhull said:

jaawwnn said:

how wrong? Are we just talking 30/35 copyright years wrong?

Prince isnt "the only real thing" stopping remasters

oh, right. Nah he is. Prince's inability to plan anything more than a month in advance, his refusal to acknowledge the past except when it suits him and his need for more money than anyone is going to give him is all that's stopping it. I'll be damned if i've seen a convincing argument otherwise.

jaawwnn said:

rdhull said:

Prince isnt "the only real thing" stopping remasters

oh, right. Nah he is. Prince's inability to plan anything more than a month in advance, his refusal to acknowledge the past except when it suits him and his need for more money than anyone is going to give him is all that's stopping it. I'll be damned if i've seen a convincing argument otherwise.

That's because you dont know whats really going on aka you're ignorant to the behind the scenes issues.

rdhull said:

jaawwnn said:

rdhull said:

That's because you dont know whats really going on aka you're ignorant to the behind the scenes issues.

And so I will remain unless someone who actually knows fills me in and can back up what they're saying. I am happy to be proven wrong!

Nobody is going to break confidentiality or trust just to appease your dumbass.

rdhull said:

jaawwnn said:

rdhull said: And so I will remain unless someone who actually knows fills me in and can back up what they're saying. I am happy to be proven wrong!

Nobody is going to break confidentiality or trust just to appease your dumbass.

I agree with rdhull. We can speculate all we want about remasters, but those who know won't talk and those who talk don't know.

My suggestion:

Don't even worry about CD's and just bundle everything in highquality download versions. The possibilities are endless....

djThunderfunk said:

stillwaiting said:

Look at the bargain bins at Best Buy. You'll find Madonna remasters, Van Halen, and many others. There is just not a market for anybody other than die hards. Even the U2 remasters have not sold well. Other than Purple Rain and 1999, I can't imagine others selling at all. SOTT may have been a critical success, but it sold well under a million(remember, double albums counted as two units, making SOTT a "Platinum" album.)

CD sales are declining at a rapid pace. There has even been talk of the major labels stopping production in the next 5 years. Even if we get remasters, they will be on lower quality MP3, which even at 320k, still sound weaker than cd. Prince would probably be more interested in making an album with Shelby shouting "Put Your Hands Up," 200 times per song than worrying about remasters. I think just like other dead releases like Roadhouse Garden, Parade Live, Musicology DVD....the idea of remasters is simply dead to Prince.

The reports I've heard suggest that THIS is the last year for CDs from the major labels. I hope the info is wrong or that things change. I have issues paying for content and not getting a hardcopy with case and artwork for my $.

I don't think you have to worry. People have been saying that for awhile now. They also said LPs would be gone too. I never stopped buying records and I didn't stop buying cds.

Like human nature- people miss what they don't have and want it back. Cds aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Record labels are even investing in making deluxe editions of albums now.

musicman said:

djThunderfunk said:

The reports I've heard suggest that THIS is the last year for CDs from the major labels. I hope the info is wrong or that things change. I have issues paying for content and not getting a hardcopy with case and artwork for my $.

I don't think you have to worry. People have been saying that for awhile now. They also said LPs would be gone too. I never stopped buying records and I didn't stop buying cds.

Like human nature- people miss what they don't have and want it back. Cds aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Record labels are even investing in making deluxe editions of albums now.

I just did a little research with my googles and it seems that the news leaked back in November and the pros & cons were much discussed online, but, it seems the major labels never verified it as fact... so, you're probably right.

The reports did say that even when the labels stop producing CDs, they would still be producing deluxe edition CDs for the collector's market, so, that would be good.

Even if the major labels eventually phase them out, CDs are not going away. There is a company called Audio Fidelity that does high-quality limited edition pressings of classic albums. They just did a version of Stevie Wonder's Innervisions and it is already sold out only two weeks after its release. But I think the bigger point is that if the major labels do get rid of CDs, they'll probably be pushing Blu-rays instead, not giving up on physical media entirely.

electricberet said:

rdhull said:

Nobody is going to break confidentiality or trust just to appease your dumbass.

I agree with rdhull. We can speculate all we want about remasters, but those who know won't talk and those who talk don't know.

uh huh, agreed. So if I have to put up with people being smug about knowing and not telling, whether they actually do or don't, then they'll have to put up with my speculation. Goes both ways.

[Edited 4/17/12 4:54am]

I don't want to hear any newly recorded or edited stuff Can you imagine a Dirty Mind remaster without the cuss words?! No,thank you.

jaawwnn said:

electricberet said:

I agree with rdhull. We can speculate all we want about remasters, but those who know won't talk and those who talk don't know.

uh huh, agreed. So if I have to put up with people being smug about knowing and not telling, whether they actually do or don't, then they'll have to put up with my speculation. Goes both ways.

[Edited 4/17/12 4:54am]

I think speculating about remasters is fun, and I've done lots of it in other threads. But I don't work in the music industry, I don't know Prince or anyone at WMG, and therefore my speculation about this has about as much accuracy as talking about whether the Cowboys will win the Super Bowl in 2014.

jaawwnn said:

electricberet said:

I agree with rdhull. We can speculate all we want about remasters, but those who know won't talk and those who talk don't know.

uh huh, agreed. So if I have to put up with people being smug about knowing and not telling, whether they actually do or don't, then they'll have to put up with my speculation. Goes both ways.

[Edited 4/17/12 4:54am]

Oh my gosh what will the Prince world do with some dude named jawn and his remasters speculation? We are truly fucked.

rdhull said:

jaawwnn said:

uh huh, agreed. So if I have to put up with people being smug about knowing and not telling, whether they actually do or don't, then they'll have to put up with my speculation. Goes both ways.

[Edited 4/17/12 4:54am]

Oh my gosh what will the Prince world do with some dude named jawn and his remasters speculation? We are truly fucked.

Whatever, lets let those who have their secrets have their secrets and those who want to speculate, speculate.

[Edited 4/17/12 8:20am]

what would we be left with if threads actually stick to the subject??

PANDURITO said:

stillwaiting said:

Look at the bargain bins at Best Buy. You'll find Madonna remasters, Van Halen, and many others. There is just not a market for anybody other than die hards. Even the U2 remasters have not sold well. Other than Purple Rain and 1999, I can't imagine others selling at all. SOTT may have been a critical success, but it sold well under a million(remember, double albums counted as two units, making SOTT a "Platinum" album.)

CD sales are declining at a rapid pace. There has even been talk of the major labels stopping production in the next 5 years. Even if we get remasters, they will be on lower quality MP3, which even at 320k, still sound weaker than cd. Prince would probably be more interested in making an album with Shelby shouting "Put Your Hands Up," 200 times per song than worrying about remasters. I think just like other dead releases like Roadhouse Garden, Parade Live, Musicology DVD....the idea of remasters is simply dead to Prince.

Optimism is your middle name

More like reality. I would love to get a huge 100 Disc set of Prince's entire output, including every single mix, single edit, 12 inch mix, unreleased songs, etc. I just don't see any point in Prince or Warners doing it. The money would be there for a few of his albums, but not groundbreaking money. Unless they put out limited editions of 10,000 for each of the less popular releases, they would be stuck with too much inventory. Since Prince and Warners don't see eye to eye, this is not gonna happen. With music sales declining by the minute, they are likely trying to agree over a shrinking pool of possible money. You can find lots of young people say they like Prince, but try finding any who have spent a single dollar on a song download or physical cd. Not too many out there under 30, and only a few random smart kids under 20.

I remember somebody saying if Dirty Mind was remastered it would easily sell 5 Million copies. Really? The original release maybe moved 150,000, and another 400,000 after Purple Rain blew up. Without taking the time to do the math, Prince's top 3 sellers(PR, 1999, ATWIAD), outsold every other Prince album put together. PR might even have outsold all others put together, but who knows? The bottom line is not too many people who are not on a fan site like this are holding their breath for a Come or Lovesexy reissue.

As if falling cd sales were not bad enough, download sales are also declining. Prince may be gaining some younger fans, but us older fans are old enough to where more of us will be dying, and the ratio of him in net fans will be falling. The newer fans might spend a little, but the music industry does whatever it can possibly do to only market to people 30 and younger, and really are getting to the point where only children will be marketed to. Sad business model. You'd think more labels would cater to the older fans. Pop radio was alive and well for those over 40 back in 1985. Does anybody know anybody over 40 who listens to regular Top 40 more than 10% of the time. For every Adele, there are 100 acts that will have a hit or two and be out like they were Dana Dane or Tommy TuTone.

SoulAlive said:

I don't want to hear any newly recorded or edited stuff Can you imagine a Dirty Mind remaster without the cuss words?! No,thank you.

Great minds run in the same vain. Given Prince's present religous convictions, he would feel complelled to alter the words or phrases. I don't mind it if he does this in concerts, but don't re-write history. Best to leave that sleeping dog asleep.

mzsadii said:

SoulAlive said:

I don't want to hear any newly recorded or edited stuff Can you imagine a Dirty Mind remaster without the cuss words?! No,thank you.

Great minds run in the same vain. Given Prince's present religous convictions, he would feel complelled to alter the words or phrases. I don't mind it if he does this in concerts, but don't re-write history. Best to leave that sleeping dog asleep.

Agreed-Nothing but the truth.

electricberet said:

Even if the major labels eventually phase them out, CDs are not going away. There is a company called Audio Fidelity that does high-quality limited edition pressings of classic albums. They just did a version of Stevie Wonder's Innervisions and it is already sold out only two weeks after its release. But I think the bigger point is that if the major labels do get rid of CDs, they'll probably be pushing Blu-rays instead, not giving up on physical media entirely.

Exactly! Because I don't want to just have downloads. I'm a collector and files just don't do it for me.