KeithyT said:

and don't forget the Spice Girls rd!

but thats why I added the caveat of 'rock bands' ..cause even the lame Fugees etc reunited

rdhull said:

Man, these tropubled bands all reunited:

STP, before Weiland goes off on another bender

The Police got their shit together , Sting finally putting his ego in check

Hell froze over for The Eagles to realize they were being idiots

the vitriol evaporated enough for Waters and Gilmour to give Pink Floyd one last hurrah

and the grandaddy(s) of them all:

Plant put his stubborn reserve away to reunite with Page/JPJ for the heralded Led Zep and the torrid relations between Roth and the Van Halens for what is the true wtf how'd it happen reunion of Van Halen came to fruition (because that dynamic of who DLR antics of pushing his vision and personality with Ed's artistic ego seemed like this was the reunion that would never happen).

P and Them need to stop this holdout lol..because of those seminal rock bands can do it so can they.

Also, don't forget that John Lennon and Paul McCartney would have joined George Harrison for a partial Beatles reunion on Saturday Night Live one night if they hadn't been too stoned to leave John's apartment at the Dakota. That is not going to be an impediment for Prince. Just imagine him, sitting at home, not knowing whether they are getting all the songs exactly right...

rdhull said:

Man, these tropubled bands all reunited:

STP, before Weiland goes off on another bender

The Police got their shit together , Sting finally putting his ego in check

Hell froze over for The Eagles to realize they were being idiots

the vitriol evaporated enough for Waters and Gilmour to give Pink Floyd one last hurrah

and the grandaddy(s) of them all:

Plant put his stubborn reserve away to reunite with Page/JPJ for the heralded Led Zep and the torrid relations between Roth and the Van Halens for what is the true wtf how'd it happen reunion of Van Halen came to fruition (because that dynamic of who DLR antics of pushing his vision and personality with Ed's artistic ego seemed like this was the reunion that would never happen).

P and Them need to stop this holdout lol..because of those seminal rock bands can do it so can they.

Salt n Pepa despite their 'religious lifestyle' contrasts, got back together

electricberet said:

rdhull said:

Man, these tropubled bands all reunited:

STP, before Weiland goes off on another bender

The Police got their shit together , Sting finally putting his ego in check

Hell froze over for The Eagles to realize they were being idiots

the vitriol evaporated enough for Waters and Gilmour to give Pink Floyd one last hurrah

and the grandaddy(s) of them all:

Plant put his stubborn reserve away to reunite with Page/JPJ for the heralded Led Zep and the torrid relations between Roth and the Van Halens for what is the true wtf how'd it happen reunion of Van Halen came to fruition (because that dynamic of who DLR antics of pushing his vision and personality with Ed's artistic ego seemed like this was the reunion that would never happen).

P and Them need to stop this holdout lol..because of those seminal rock bands can do it so can they.

Also, don't forget that John Lennon and Paul McCartney would have joined George Harrison for a partial Beatles reunion on Saturday Night Live one night if they hadn't been too stoned to leave John's apartment at the Dakota. That is not going to be an impediment for Prince. Just imagine him, sitting at home, not knowing whether they are getting all the songs exactly right...

ha I remember Lorne offering 1000 dollars for them on the show lol...

but on the associated artists page they have a recent MPR interview with Bobby, Lisa, and Wendy and they allude that Prince wont show

BUT... as some have mentioned, he has met up with them the past few months so who knows, maybe they are planning something but keeping it secret so not to have the event plauged with a torrent of people...OR... Prince has already had his reunion but in 'reunion private' with just them at the treehouse, PP, and recent dinner with Bobby (which in a weird way I can understand this way of doing it).

either way I think even just speaking on it jinx's it becasue you know how tempermental Prince is...but something also tells me that something has changed in him the past year and he may want to publicly do something quiet with them onstage....maybe a new complaintive song ala Purple Rain to give to the fans?

rdhull said:

electricberet said:

Also, don't forget that John Lennon and Paul McCartney would have joined George Harrison for a partial Beatles reunion on Saturday Night Live one night if they hadn't been too stoned to leave John's apartment at the Dakota. That is not going to be an impediment for Prince. Just imagine him, sitting at home, not knowing whether they are getting all the songs exactly right...

ha I remember Lorne offering 1000 dollars for them on the show lol...

but on the associated artists page they have a recent MPR interview with Bobby, Lisa, and Wendy and they allude that Prince wont show

BUT... as some have mentioned, he has met up with them the past few months so who knows, maybe they are planning something but keeping it secret so not to have the event plauged with a torrent of people...OR... Prince has already had his reunion but in 'reunion private' with just them at the treehouse, PP, and recent dinner with Bobby (which in a weird way I can understand this way of doing it).

either way I think even just speaking on it jinx's it becasue you know how tempermental Prince is...but something also tells me that something has changed in him the past year and he may want to publicly do something quiet with them onstage....maybe a new complaintive song ala Purple Rain to give to the fans?

I think the reality is that NO ONE knows for sure what he will do on Sunday, including Prince himself, because he could change his mind at the last minute one way or the other. I had tickets for the Dallas concert last year, and it was on until the very last minute, when it was off. It will be ironic (and awesome) if I come to a concert on Sunday where he's not supposed to show up, and he does. It is worth noting that if it had been announced well in advance that Prince was coming, all the tickets would have been gobbled up by scalpers and would now be selling for outlandish amounts of money on StubHub.

rdhull said:

but on the associated artists page they have a recent MPR interview with Bobby, Lisa, and Wendy and they allude that Prince wont show

I think W&L ruined any chance of prince showing up with that interview.

paulludvig said:

rdhull said:

but on the associated artists page they have a recent MPR interview with Bobby, Lisa, and Wendy and they allude that Prince wont show

I think W&L ruined any chance of prince showing up with that interview.

My sentiments too kind of..they just BE TALKING all the time lol...for all they worked with dude, dont they know him by now? lol

rdhull said:

paulludvig said:

I think W&L ruined any chance of prince showing up with that interview.

My sentiments too kind of..they just BE TALKING all the time lol...for all they worked with dude, dont they know him by now? lol

What seems so weird to me is that this is basically the plot of the Purple Rain movie, in real life, with the same people, centered on the very place where the movie was set. Will he or won't he reconcile with the girls and embrace their contributions to his music? Life imitates art.

electricberet said:

rdhull said:

My sentiments too kind of..they just BE TALKING all the time lol...for all they worked with dude, dont they know him by now? lol

What seems so weird to me is that this is basically the plot of the Purple Rain movie, in real life, with the same people, centered on the very place where the movie was set. Will he or won't he reconcile with the girls and embrace their contributions to his music? Life imitates art.

lol..I know what you are gettign at/saying..but since its Friday..

He already has..what he neds ot do is re to embrace the controibutions of Mark Brown, Z, and Fank (no I didnt mispell Matts name lol). Yes he loved working with ladies, esp W&L, but the rest of the revolution went into battle just as they did. And their shit has never been heralded (except by a precious few) when ocmpared to Lisa and Wendy (Me and Billlay are the only ones who get it write by putting Lisa's name first since she was the pioneer and then came Wendy). The only real appreciation of Z was by 2uestlove who wrote this long ass post about what Bobby had to do with the drum programming while still keeping time with the live drums when in concert. "It was beautiful mann!"-(c)Tom Cruise at the end of Taps.

rdhull said:

electricberet said:

What seems so weird to me is that this is basically the plot of the Purple Rain movie, in real life, with the same people, centered on the very place where the movie was set. Will he or won't he reconcile with the girls and embrace their contributions to his music? Life imitates art.

lol..I know what you are gettign at/saying..but since its Friday..

He already has..what he neds ot do is re to embrace the controibutions of Mark Brown, Z, and Fank (no I didnt mispell Matts name lol). Yes he loved working with ladies, esp W&L, but the rest of the revolution went into battle just as they did. And their shit has never been heralded (except by a precious few) when ocmpared to Lisa and Wendy (Me and Billlay are the only ones who get it write by putting Lisa's name first since she was the pioneer and then came Wendy). The only real appreciation of Z was by 2uestlove who wrote this long ass post about what Bobby had to do with the drum programming while still keeping time with the live drums when in concert. "It was beautiful mann!"-(c)Tom Cruise at the end of Taps.

I just think it's funny that all this is going down at First Avenue. To make the experience complete, we need Apollonia 6 to reunite tomorrow night at a club across the street for a performance of "Sex Shooter," with Morris Day gloating and Prince looking on jealously in the audience.

Rumors are swirling that a "surprise" may be in the works! Rehearsals for a grand finale with the band dressed as penguins singing appropriately enough "Song Of The Heart" from Happy Feet.

Cross your fingers everybody!

electricberet said:

rdhull said:

lol..I know what you are gettign at/saying..but since its Friday..

He already has..what he neds ot do is re to embrace the controibutions of Mark Brown, Z, and Fank (no I didnt mispell Matts name lol). Yes he loved working with ladies, esp W&L, but the rest of the revolution went into battle just as they did. And their shit has never been heralded (except by a precious few) when ocmpared to Lisa and Wendy (Me and Billlay are the only ones who get it write by putting Lisa's name first since she was the pioneer and then came Wendy). The only real appreciation of Z was by 2uestlove who wrote this long ass post about what Bobby had to do with the drum programming while still keeping time with the live drums when in concert. "It was beautiful mann!"-(c)Tom Cruise at the end of Taps.

I just think it's funny that all this is going down at First Avenue. To make the experience complete, we need Apollonia 6 to reunite tomorrow night at a club across the street for a performance of "Sex Shooter," with Morris Day gloating and Prince looking on jealously in the audience.

Im more interested in that Vicotr French looking taxi driver finally catching up to Apples to get that cab fare she owes...now with interest

PoorLonelyComputer said:

sterling said:

PoorLonelyComputer said:

Agreed.

Damned if he does...damned if he doesn't. All this speculation, folks getting wound up then he will somehow be punishing those that follow his music. And remember just because the line up is the same doesn't mean that the magic would still be there and the folks would be hating on Prince for that. Prince was lightening in a bottle and The Revolution was a by-product. Ask those that saw him in the years preceding. I'm just saying.

Besides no one knows how he has shown support for Bobby Z.

what do you mean?

the magic is there

I believe Bobby talked about it after the events of his heart attack

paulludvig said:

rdhull said:

but on the associated artists page they have a recent MPR interview with Bobby, Lisa, and Wendy and they allude that Prince wont show

I think W&L ruined any chance of prince showing up with that interview.

I didn't hear anything that to make me think that, but if so - it's not their fault he's got a stick up his ass.

NouveauDance said:

paulludvig said:

I think W&L ruined any chance of prince showing up with that interview.

I didn't hear anything that to make me think that, but if so - it's not their fault he's got a stick up his ass.

What they said was that they hope he shows but they don't think he will. That's the same thing that most people on here have been saying for months. I don't know why he would take that as some unforgiveable insult.

I think the biggest factor in favor of him showing up is his legendary perfectionism. Will he really be able to sit at home for the duration of the concert not knowing whether his songs are being played exactly they way he thinks they should? If he isn't there, he'll have at least one spy there to send him updates.

Wouldn't that be GRAND?

I'm like many of you, we wish that this is possible, but the only thing we can do is 'Speculate'. It's cool that Prince is still alive and well, in 2012. This is the first NEWS we hear of him around and about. It's cool he was chilling, at Valentines Day with the usual family. (Larry Graham, Tina, Girlfriend at the time..lol) He is most likely with 'Andy Allo', who might not be his girlfriend. I'm sure he is teaching 'TRUTH' to her, and possibly one day she'll become a 'Jehovah's Witness' preferably before he promotes her new album along with him. THAT'S BESIDE THE POINT THOUGH....

I sure hope he comes and do a surprise number/encore at the end. PURPLE RAIN! That would be fantastic as we all know, we can see the true love and respect he has for Bobby. Bobby feels it, and expresses genuine love and taste for Prince as he was there for him in a hard time. That's beautiful!

Prince seems to do something on the behalf of Bobby, and the fact that so many have been falling off lately. It would be dire and sadden, if he missed the opportunity to come and JAM with the Revolution again. At least once and for all. We don't know? What is there to expect? We are talking about Prince here! You never really know with him! That's a ' ' thing most of the time, and a ' ' thing sometimes..lol

JUST Surrender Your Expectation!

electricberet said:

NouveauDance said:

I didn't hear anything that to make me think that, but if so - it's not their fault he's got a stick up his ass.

What they said was that they hope he shows but they don't think he will. That's the same thing that most people on here have been saying for months. I don't know why he would take that as some unforgiveable insult.

I think the biggest factor in favor of him showing up is his legendary perfectionism. Will he really be able to sit at home for the duration of the concert not knowing whether his songs are being played exactly they way he thinks they should? If he isn't there, he'll have at least one spy there to send him updates.

It's more about them taking credit as usual. In the few minutes the interview lasted they managed to suggest that Lisa and Prince were equal partners in the creation of the first Time album, that their input in the mid 80's was so huge that prince felt left out or lost, that Prince relied upon them more than anyone or anything else, that firing them was a step back for Prince.

This could of course all be true. But I don't think Prince will appreciate this perspective

[Edited 2/17/12 10:41am]

I just talked to my Tia and we need two tickets now cause were planning our thigh high boots outsfits and miniskirts and tierras, its on!! she said were gonta be pimpin Lol

paulludvig said:

electricberet said:

What they said was that they hope he shows but they don't think he will. That's the same thing that most people on here have been saying for months. I don't know why he would take that as some unforgiveable insult.

I think the biggest factor in favor of him showing up is his legendary perfectionism. Will he really be able to sit at home for the duration of the concert not knowing whether his songs are being played exactly they way he thinks they should? If he isn't there, he'll have at least one spy there to send him updates.

It's more about them taking credit as usual. In the few minutes the interview lasted they managed to suggest that Lisa and Prince were equal partners in the creation of the first Time album, that their input in the mid 80's were so huge that prince felt left out or lost, that Prince relied upon them more than anyone or anything else, that firing them was a step back for Prince.

This could of course all be true. But I don't think Prince will appreciate this perspective

Yeah, but if someone believes you were that valuable to their career, then they wouldn't fire you. Anyway, that's another story. But with all this speculation from some fans with hoping Prince shows up, can make one wonder if some of the fans going, are actually going for the purpose of seeing the former Revolution members perform or just going, because they think Prince may show up.

Anyway, have fun for those going.

[Edited 2/17/12 10:38am]

2elijah said:

paulludvig said:

It's more about them taking credit as usual. In the few minutes the interview lasted they managed to suggest that Lisa and Prince were equal partners in the creation of the first Time album, that their input in the mid 80's were so huge that prince felt left out or lost, that Prince relied upon them more than anyone or anything else, that firing them was a step back for Prince.

This could of course all be true. But I don't think Prince will appreciate this perspective

Yeah, but if someone believes you were that valuable to their career, then they wouldn't fire you. Anyway, that's another story. But with all this speculation from some fans with hoping Prince shows up, can make one wonder if some of the fans going, are actually going for the purpose of seeing the former Revolution members perform or just going, because they think Prince may show up.

Anyway, have fun for those going.

[Edited 2/17/12 10:38am]

I think either way it's a good thing, because the concert is for a good cause. I am going to see the former Revolution members perform, but I'd like to see Prince show up, even if all he does is give Bobby a hug and wave to the crowd at the end of the show.

OldFriends4Sale said:

sterling said:

PoorLonelyComputer said:

Damned if he does...damned if he doesn't. All this speculation, folks getting wound up then he will somehow be punishing those that follow his music. And remember just because the line up is the same doesn't mean that the magic would still be there and the folks would be hating on Prince for that. Prince was lightening in a bottle and The Revolution was a by-product. Ask those that saw him in the years preceding. I'm just saying.

Besides no one knows how he has shown support for Bobby Z.

what do you mean?

the magic is there

I believe Bobby talked about it after the events of his heart attack

I mean EXACTLY what I said...just because Bobby Z is feeling it doesn't mean the the MAGIC that was The Revolution which Prince rehearsed the hell out of decades ago would gel onstage after all that has gone down in the years since.

Other bands that broke-up and got back together have been mentioned in reference but the comparisons aren't necessarily fair. Take The Police- it was Stewart's band and yeah Sting was known to be quite ego-centric but the smartest move he could have made at the point in his solo career when he was playing a lute and hiding behind that unsexy beard was to reunite the rock band that was #1 when he walked away. His solo career had gotten stale and he needed the infusion. Besides those guys were like brothers and the bond developed by touring the US in a van binds you in a way that nothing else can for a band as did the knock-down-drag-out fights they had...I know this because Sting...yeah that one told me himself during "The Blue Turtles Tour".

So as cool as it would be to see The Revolution take to the stage in total, I for one (and I say this as my best friends, brother and ex-husband are professional musicians) don't think that all that has gone on in the years since would just evaporate, let them CONNECT and PLAY! And that would be very sad indeed. So excuse me while they live in my memory in all their GLORY and I don't get bent out of shape if they don't take to the stage together. As much as I dug The Revolution, I was one of those hoping for reunion with Dez and Andre and them playing small clubs and me getting to hang out during soundcheck again... Finally gave that up sometime during the MnM-NPG years...LOL

And I repeat...

Besides no one knows how he has shown support for Bobby Z...because there have been posts about Prince needing to show up as that was his way to show support for Bobby. I am willing to bet that the support for Bobby that Prince has shown has not been revealed in its entirety and it does not have to be in a way that someone other than the 2 old friends decide.

sterling said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

what do you mean?

the magic is there

I believe Bobby talked about it after the events of his heart attack

I mean EXACTLY what I said...just because Booby Z is feeling it doesn't mean the the MAGIC that was The Revolution which Prince rehearsed the hell out of decades ago would gel onstage after all that has gone down in the years since.

Other bands that broke-up and got back together have been mentioned in reference but the comparisons aren't necessarily fair. Take The Police- it was Stewart's band and yeah Sting was known to be quite ego-centric but the smartest move he could have made at the point in his solo career when he was playing a lute and hiding behind that unsexy beard was to reunite the rock band that was #1 when he walked away. His solo career had gotten stale and he needed the infusion. Besides those guys were like brothers and the bond developed by touring the US in a van binds you in a way that nothing else can for a band as did the knock-down-drag-out fights they had...I know this because Sting...yeah that one told me himself during "The Blue Turtles Tour".

So as cool as it would be to see The Revolution take to the stage in total, I for one (and I say this as my best friends, brother and ex-husband are professional musicians) don't think that all that has gone on in the years since would just evaporate, let them CONNECT and PLAY! And that would be very sad indeed. So excuse me while they live in my memory in all their GLORY and I don't get bent out of shape if they don't take to the stage together. As much as I dug The Revolution, I was one of those hoping for reunion with Dez and Andre and them playing small clubs and me getting to hang out during soundcheck again... Finally gave that up sometime during the MnM-NPG years...LOL

And I repeat...

Besides no one knows how he has shown support for Bobby Z...because there have been posts about Prince needing to show up as that was his way to show support for Bobby. I am willing to bet that the support for Bobby that Prince has shown has not been revealed in its entirety and it does not have to be in a way that someone other than the 2 old friends decide.

bah humbug, party pooper shoo flie shoo

paulludvig said:

electricberet said:

What they said was that they hope he shows but they don't think he will. That's the same thing that most people on here have been saying for months. I don't know why he would take that as some unforgiveable insult.

I think the biggest factor in favor of him showing up is his legendary perfectionism. Will he really be able to sit at home for the duration of the concert not knowing whether his songs are being played exactly they way he thinks they should? If he isn't there, he'll have at least one spy there to send him updates.

It's more about them taking credit as usual. In the few minutes the interview lasted they managed to suggest that Lisa and Prince were equal partners in the creation of the first Time album, that their input in the mid 80's was so huge that prince felt left out or lost, that Prince relied upon them more than anyone or anything else, that firing them was a step back for Prince.

This could of course all be true. But I don't think Prince will appreciate this perspective

Man, how did you hear all that in there?

I think you are adding way to much to that, they said nothing of the sort

OldFriends4Sale said:

sterling said:

I mean EXACTLY what I said...just because Booby Z is feeling it doesn't mean the the MAGIC that was The Revolution which Prince rehearsed the hell out of decades ago would gel onstage after all that has gone down in the years since.

Other bands that broke-up and got back together have been mentioned in reference but the comparisons aren't necessarily fair. Take The Police- it was Stewart's band and yeah Sting was known to be quite ego-centric but the smartest move he could have made at the point in his solo career when he was playing a lute and hiding behind that unsexy beard was to reunite the rock band that was #1 when he walked away. His solo career had gotten stale and he needed the infusion. Besides those guys were like brothers and the bond developed by touring the US in a van binds you in a way that nothing else can for a band as did the knock-down-drag-out fights they had...I know this because Sting...yeah that one told me himself during "The Blue Turtles Tour".

So as cool as it would be to see The Revolution take to the stage in total, I for one (and I say this as my best friends, brother and ex-husband are professional musicians) don't think that all that has gone on in the years since would just evaporate, let them CONNECT and PLAY! And that would be very sad indeed. So excuse me while they live in my memory in all their GLORY and I don't get bent out of shape if they don't take to the stage together. As much as I dug The Revolution, I was one of those hoping for reunion with Dez and Andre and them playing small clubs and me getting to hang out during soundcheck again... Finally gave that up sometime during the MnM-NPG years...LOL

And I repeat...

Besides no one knows how he has shown support for Bobby Z...because there have been posts about Prince needing to show up as that was his way to show support for Bobby. I am willing to bet that the support for Bobby that Prince has shown has not been revealed in its entirety and it does not have to be in a way that someone other than the 2 old friends decide.

bah humbug, party pooper shoo flie shoo

^^^this ninja here

OldFriends4Sale said:

paulludvig said:

It's more about them taking credit as usual. In the few minutes the interview lasted they managed to suggest that Lisa and Prince were equal partners in the creation of the first Time album, that their input in the mid 80's was so huge that prince felt left out or lost, that Prince relied upon them more than anyone or anything else, that firing them was a step back for Prince.

This could of course all be true. But I don't think Prince will appreciate this perspective

Man, how did you hear all that in there?

I think you are adding way to much to that, they said nothing of the sort

Here are some quotes from the interview:

“The first Time album was just Lisa and him, [Then Morris would come in and do his vocal]”

“The only thing he could think of doing was getting rid of the thing he was relying on the most which was me and Lisa”

“He sent us skeletons of songs and Wendy and I would make the track. I think he just really felt “where am I? What am I doing? I need to regroup””

“He just thought “look I can't ask you guys to take a step back now””

I don’t think my interpretation is far-fetched at all.

paulludvig said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Man, how did you hear all that in there?

I think you are adding way to much to that, they said nothing of the sort

Here are some quotes from the interview:

“The first Time album was just Lisa and him, [Then Morris would come in and do his vocal]”

“The only thing he could think of doing was getting rid of the thing he was relying on the most which was me and Lisa”

“He sent us skeletons of songs and Wendy and I would make the track. I think he just really felt “where am I? What am I doing? I need to regroup””

“He just thought “look I can't ask you guys to take a step back now””

I don’t think my interpretation is far-fetched at all.

It's not.

paulludvig said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Man, how did you hear all that in there?

I think you are adding way to much to that, they said nothing of the sort

Here are some quotes from the interview:

“The first Time album was just Lisa and him, [Then Morris would come in and do his vocal]”

“The only thing he could think of doing was getting rid of the thing he was relying on the most which was me and Lisa”

“He sent us skeletons of songs and Wendy and I would make the track. I think he just really felt “where am I? What am I doing? I need to regroup””

“He just thought “look I can't ask you guys to take a step back now””

I don’t think my interpretation is far-fetched at all.

It sounded to me like it was overall a positive interview. They were reminiscing about how close friends they used to be with him. I thought their explanation of how they got fired was pretty graceful--he just needed to move on to different things. It didn't sound like they were trying to spite him. Sure, they've known him for a long time, but he knows them too.

I think if Prince were really upset by anything W&L said, there would be an announcment on Dr. Funkenberry today about how Prince is kicking off his "Welcome to Australia" tour on Sunday night and unfortunately will have to miss the Revolution concert due to his being on the other side of the world.

electricberet said:

2elijah said:

Yeah, but if someone believes you were that valuable to their career, then they wouldn't fire you. Anyway, that's another story. But with all this speculation from some fans with hoping Prince shows up, can make one wonder if some of the fans going, are actually going for the purpose of seeing the former Revolution members perform or just going, because they think Prince may show up.

Anyway, have fun for those going.

[Edited 2/17/12 10:38am]

I think either way it's a good thing, because the concert is for a good cause. I am going to see the former Revolution members perform, but I'd like to see Prince show up, even if all he does is give Bobby a hug and wave to the crowd at the end of the show.

Yeah, hopefully those going will remember that is the purpose of the show.