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Reply #60 posted 12/18/11 11:50am

Timmy84

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Timmy84 said:

Riiiight... but it wasn't like Mr. Evil Music Industry Exec held a gun to your head to buy it. lol

It reminds me of people who get upset at buying a new gadget only to see it become obsolete a year later. If you like your 1.5 megapixel camera from 3 years ago, keep it. Don't get upset becasue there is another one out now.

By the same token I still collect and love my Prince related vinyl more than his mp3's. Purchase what you like. Or don't. It's up to you.

Exactly...

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Reply #61 posted 12/18/11 1:00pm

chopingard

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chopingard said:

Oh you don't know how with you on that I am biggrin

I'm still waiting on a 9 disk set from him, Come on Prince I know you could whip one up no problem

And I thought I was the only one. wink

Not at alll

I do however think annoyingly some people would have a higher opinion of his stuff if it wasn't released.

Imagine if N.E.W.S One Night Alone or even 20TEN were unreleased albums that got leaked. I think some of the same fans that are calling them weak would be falling over there own tits with praise for them and holding them up against the latest official release (that isn't a patch on Sign O The Times, Parade or whatever).

I don't like everything he's ever released, I am however glad he released everything he's released

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Reply #62 posted 12/18/11 2:19pm

alphastreet

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I like it a lot, but if I was told I can never hear it again, I don't think I would lose sleep.

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Reply #63 posted 12/18/11 3:05pm

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I would rather him release the bad stuff along with the good. He may not always know which is which. But I just edit his albums and listen to whatever songs I like from them. I listened to Emancipation last night and love it once I take the bad songs out. I forget they even existed after awhile.

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Reply #64 posted 12/18/11 3:10pm

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FunkiestOne said:

I would rather him release the bad stuff along with the good. He may not always know which is which. But I just edit his albums and listen to whatever songs I like from them. I listened to Emancipation last night and love it once I take the bad songs out. I forget they even existed after awhile.

I'm always curious to learn what people consider to be the "bad songs" on Emancipation. Would you care to share which ones you consider to be bad?

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Reply #65 posted 12/18/11 3:30pm

Tremolina

rialb said:

FunkiestOne said:

I would rather him release the bad stuff along with the good. He may not always know which is which. But I just edit his albums and listen to whatever songs I like from them. I listened to Emancipation last night and love it once I take the bad songs out. I forget they even existed after awhile.

I'm always curious to learn what people consider to be the "bad songs" on Emancipation. Would you care to share which ones you consider to be bad?

I think most of disc I is not so great. But about half of disc II and II is terrific.

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Reply #66 posted 12/18/11 8:52pm

imago

Am I the only person who thinks there is no correlation to Prince's proliferation of music and the quality of the music itself? lol

He wrote a shite load of albums during the Purple Rain era, (mostly under different band names), and much of that was great.

He wrote the black album, quickly shelved it, and produced LoveSexy within 2 months of that--super fast for any artist, and the outcome was pretty good.

I don't think Prince's problem is one connected to the speed or pace of his output. We had to wait a bit for Musicology, and 20Ten, (longer than the usual Prince waiting period), and neither of those albums was terrific.

I think the issue is with how 'in touch' Prince is with the human experience. For example, everyone connects with elements of When Doves Cry, If I was Ur Girfriend, and the like. But it's far more difficult to intuitively connec to Wedding Feast, 1+1+1=3, Laveux. And let's face it, there absolutely no reason a musical genius should be writing, producing, recording, and certainly releasing Everybody Loves Me from 20Ten. No reason whatsoever.

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Reply #67 posted 12/18/11 9:11pm

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imago said:

Am I the only person who thinks there is no correlation to Prince's proliferation of music and the quality of the music itself? lol





He wrote a shite load of albums during the Purple Rain era, (mostly under different band names), and much of that was great.



He wrote the black album, quickly shelved it, and produced LoveSexy within 2 months of that--super fast for any artist, and the outcome was pretty good.




I don't think Prince's problem is one connected to the speed or pace of his output. We had to wait a bit for Musicology, and 20Ten, (longer than the usual Prince waiting period), and neither of those albums was terrific.



I think the issue is with how 'in touch' Prince is with the human experience. For example, everyone connects with elements of When Doves Cry, If I was Ur Girfriend, and the like. But it's far more difficult to intuitively connect to Wedding Feast, 1+1+1=3, Laveux. And let's face it, there absolutely no reason a musical genius should be writing, producing, recording, and certainly releasing Everybody Loves Me from 20Ten. No reason whatsoever.





I agree with that. Lavaux however...I distanced myself from the lyrics beacause...in a way everyone dreams of a place that could be more fruitful than where thry actually live. We can't expect anything out of Prince either. I think that is fan fault also. Not to expect things from an artist unless they tell you that themselves. U can't expect genius from some already feeling "shorted" on product for the last twenty years. Come on now.
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Reply #68 posted 12/18/11 9:45pm

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imago said:

Am I the only person who thinks there is no correlation to Prince's proliferation of music and the quality of the music itself? lol

He wrote a shite load of albums during the Purple Rain era, (mostly under different band names), and much of that was great.

He wrote the black album, quickly shelved it, and produced LoveSexy within 2 months of that--super fast for any artist, and the outcome was pretty good.

I don't think Prince's problem is one connected to the speed or pace of his output. We had to wait a bit for Musicology, and 20Ten, (longer than the usual Prince waiting period), and neither of those albums was terrific.

I think the issue is with how 'in touch' Prince is with the human experience. For example, everyone connects with elements of When Doves Cry, If I was Ur Girfriend, and the like. But it's far more difficult to intuitively connec to Wedding Feast, 1+1+1=3, Laveux. And let's face it, there absolutely no reason a musical genius should be writing, producing, recording, and certainly releasing Everybody Loves Me from 20Ten. No reason whatsoever.

Come on, "Everybody Loves Me" is genius humor in lyric and sound in context of where he's at in his career.

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Reply #69 posted 12/18/11 11:13pm

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Oh it's all a matter of opinion. I personally love BATMAN soundtrack, and Like Emancipation as 3 disks. I think every time he does something it is so diverse. It may not fit everyone's style or tastes, but yet it still caters 2 some of his fans. Personally within that time out of his "official" releases, I'd go on to state that I didn't enjoy Planet Earth as much, However there were a few songs on it I truly love, especially 'SHOE'. I say he can keep making whatever he want's because we will still buy it, I will still buy, I love is genius, and no matter how commercially unsuccessful an album may be, I tend to find Jems within each one. So roll out the next CD Prince, I'm waiting. smile

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Reply #70 posted 12/18/11 11:15pm

one2vibe

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NouveauDance said:

I don't listen to the shit I don't like, but I will say - I'm happy to go back and re-evaluate something if it sparks my interest, I've done this and had a change of heart on many things over the years. You just never know what's going to click with you down the road! wink

AMEN!

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Reply #71 posted 12/18/11 11:21pm

one2vibe

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funkomatic said:

Timmy84 said:

Y'all killed the music industry. wink

No, no, it all started with the music industry making us pay for the same product twice. There was a lot of money generated just by a new medium...not content!

NO NO NO it wasn't the CD that killed the music industry, it was the illegal downloading. I mean come one how many times before downloading music would you spend money on a cd / record and 2 songs were amazing and the rest was shit. So people don't trust the business anymore, I for one have downloaded music, and if it was slamming, bought the cd, If it wasn't Kept the one song I did like and deleted the others. It's a new game now.

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Reply #72 posted 12/18/11 11:27pm

erik319

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NeonCraxx said:

rolleyes @ this thread

lock lock lock lock !!!!!

a thread with a viewpoint different than mine? Quick... To the panic room!
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Reply #73 posted 12/18/11 11:33pm

one2vibe

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erik319 said:

NeonCraxx said:

rolleyes @ this thread

lock lock lock lock !!!!!

a thread with a viewpoint different than mine? Quick... To the panic room!

lol

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Reply #74 posted 12/18/11 11:35pm

one2vibe

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ufoclub said:

imago said:

Am I the only person who thinks there is no correlation to Prince's proliferation of music and the quality of the music itself? lol

He wrote a shite load of albums during the Purple Rain era, (mostly under different band names), and much of that was great.

He wrote the black album, quickly shelved it, and produced LoveSexy within 2 months of that--super fast for any artist, and the outcome was pretty good.

I don't think Prince's problem is one connected to the speed or pace of his output. We had to wait a bit for Musicology, and 20Ten, (longer than the usual Prince waiting period), and neither of those albums was terrific.

I think the issue is with how 'in touch' Prince is with the human experience. For example, everyone connects with elements of When Doves Cry, If I was Ur Girfriend, and the like. But it's far more difficult to intuitively connec to Wedding Feast, 1+1+1=3, Laveux. And let's face it, there absolutely no reason a musical genius should be writing, producing, recording, and certainly releasing Everybody Loves Me from 20Ten. No reason whatsoever.

Come on, "Everybody Loves Me" is genius humor in lyric and sound in context of where he's at in his career.

Love Everybody loves me, and Love 2OTen, and I LOL everytime I hear wedding feast, it's just so funny for it to come on in the car when your with friends, and U just start singing it at the top of your lungs and everyones looking at you Like WTF. LOL classic

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Reply #75 posted 12/18/11 11:38pm

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But all in all (and here I go, bringing this topic up....lol {insert beating dead horse here}) I want everything again in the remastered format... REMASTERED as In sound, Not as in REwritting the music and lyrics etc.... so it sounds so much better today.... Gosh so many artist that have there old stuff remastered so so good now. Especially The Cure / Madonna's / MJ's early stuff.

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Reply #76 posted 12/19/11 4:19am

imago

ufoclub said:

imago said:

Am I the only person who thinks there is no correlation to Prince's proliferation of music and the quality of the music itself? lol

He wrote a shite load of albums during the Purple Rain era, (mostly under different band names), and much of that was great.

He wrote the black album, quickly shelved it, and produced LoveSexy within 2 months of that--super fast for any artist, and the outcome was pretty good.

I don't think Prince's problem is one connected to the speed or pace of his output. We had to wait a bit for Musicology, and 20Ten, (longer than the usual Prince waiting period), and neither of those albums was terrific.

I think the issue is with how 'in touch' Prince is with the human experience. For example, everyone connects with elements of When Doves Cry, If I was Ur Girfriend, and the like. But it's far more difficult to intuitively connec to Wedding Feast, 1+1+1=3, Laveux. And let's face it, there absolutely no reason a musical genius should be writing, producing, recording, and certainly releasing Everybody Loves Me from 20Ten. No reason whatsoever.

Come on, "Everybody Loves Me" is genius humor in lyric and sound in context of where he's at in his career.

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Reply #77 posted 12/19/11 4:34am

NeonCraxx

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erik319 said:

NeonCraxx said:

rolleyes @ this thread

lock lock lock lock !!!!!

a thread with a viewpoint different than mine? Quick... To the panic room!

That's not even the reason, calm the fuck down, alright?

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Reply #78 posted 12/19/11 5:05am

rialb

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NeonCraxx said:

erik319 said:

a thread with a viewpoint different than mine? Quick... To the panic room!

That's not even the reason, calm the fuck down, alright?

Huh, if you are trying to inpire calmness you may wish to abstain from using expletives. wink

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Reply #79 posted 12/19/11 5:20am

NeonCraxx

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rialb said:

Huh, if you are trying to inpire calmness you may wish to abstain from using expletives. wink

Fuck. Shit. Piss. Goddamn. Dead hookers.

wink

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Reply #80 posted 12/19/11 5:24am

rialb

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NeonCraxx said:

rialb said:

Huh, if you are trying to inpire calmness you may wish to abstain from using expletives. wink

Fuck. Shit. Piss. Goddamn. Dead hookers.

wink

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Reply #81 posted 12/19/11 5:31am

NeonCraxx

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rialb said:

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Reply #82 posted 12/19/11 6:27am

erik319

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rialb said:

NeonCraxx said:

That's not even the reason, calm the fuck down, alright?

Huh, if you are trying to inpire calmness you may wish to abstain from using expletives. wink

this person can't entertain a viewpoint different to theirs, I'm not sure reasoning with them for calmess is gonna get the best of responses wink
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Reply #83 posted 12/19/11 9:18am

renfield

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eavlinc said:

Timmy84 said:

eek I thought he only appeared on SNL ONCE! Wow...

3 times (I think).

Party Up, Electric Chair and then he did those two horrible songs a few years ago.

He performed "Partyup" in 1981, when Charlene Tilton from 'Dallas' was hosting.

The "Electric Chair" performance was from a primetime 15th anniversary special in '89.

Then he performed "Fury" and "Beautiful, Loved, and Blessed" in 2006 with Steve Martin hosting the show.

So two performances on the actual Saturday night broadcast, plus one special.

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Reply #84 posted 12/19/11 10:39am

Timmy84

Why I'd forget 2006? doh! I remember watching the "Fury" performance. lol

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Reply #85 posted 12/19/11 12:29pm

101

Why care for a ''flawless'' career? So that he would be big in sales? What makes that so important?

Now at least everyone can grap the Prince they like...for me that means stuff like:

- The undertaker video

- ONA piano

- ONA live ''it ain't over''

- C-Note

And a lot of pearls scattered in the dirt.. before the swines...

You as his career assistant would have skipped all that i presume...bad..bad..bad...

Let him do his thing...he is still respected..and his carreer is pretty good for a guy who didn't have a hit the last 15 years or so...

But let us hope he moves away from the 2010 type of productions soon again...

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Reply #86 posted 12/19/11 2:19pm

paisleypark4

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one2vibe said:

But all in all (and here I go, bringing this topic up....lol {insert beating dead horse here}) I want everything again in the remastered format... REMASTERED as In sound, Not as in REwritting the music and lyrics etc.... so it sounds so much better today.... Gosh so many artist that have there old stuff remastered so so good now. Especially The Cure / Madonna's / MJ's early stuff.

Get it on vinyl.

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Reply #87 posted 12/19/11 4:46pm

NeonCraxx

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erik319 said:

this person can't entertain a viewpoint different to theirs, I'm not sure reasoning with them for calmess is gonna get the best of responses wink

Yes, Einstein, you read me like a book. You know me soooooo well.

Not.

Plus, you're wrong.

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Reply #88 posted 12/19/11 11:50pm

erik319

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NeonCraxx said:

erik319 said:

this person can't entertain a viewpoint different to theirs, I'm not sure reasoning with them for calmess is gonna get the best of responses wink

Yes, Einstein, you read me like a book. You know me soooooo well.

Not.

Plus, you're wrong.

No, I didn't read you like a book, I read your sig.

Or is your sig wrong?

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Reply #89 posted 12/20/11 4:33pm

NeonCraxx

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erik319 said:

No, I didn't read you like a book, I read your sig.

Or is your sig wrong?

My sig is fabulous but that has nothing to do with the fact that you accused me of not respecting other viewpoints which is bullshit.

[Edited 12/20/11 16:34pm]

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