... Old friends 4 sale, Electric intercourse and I hate U (anymore)?

I was watching his Montreal Jazz Festival performance on YT and DM today and thought about how incredibly fitting it would be to include a fantastic version of Old Friends 4 Sale and a smooth version of Electric Intercourse in this set. Seems like he has forgotten about these masterpieces, and that´s truly a shame, because they would have been AMAZING live!! Has he BTW ever done OF4S live??

And as 4 "I hate U": I know he has performed it live before in concert but I have never seen it - it hasn´t been posted on YT except from the lipsynced music award performance. but a real live version is yet 2 B seen.

Ummmm...he only performed Electric Intercourse once. So it's not really a matter of him not doing it, "anymore." It was never a regular in the rotation.

Frankly, he shouldn't do it. That one performance is so amazing, so singular, so legendary, he couldn't top it if he played it over and over for the rest of his life.

We could be here all day listing songs we'd like to see Prince perform. Fact is, the man just has too much material! Still, at an aftershow it might be possible to hear "Eye Hate U" or "Old Friends 4 Sale" if he feels like it. But I wouldn't count on hearing "Electric Intercourse" any time soon.

prince is going for the upper middle aged female mom christian demographic .. he is on par with dione warwick these days .. just churning out sappy ballads and mundane lite jazz funk .. the sampler set is an easy way to play the nostalgia strings without violating his new code of mediocrity .. other than that u will get nothing interesting or honest out of him ever again

Genesia said:

Ummmm...he only performed Electric Intercourse once. So it's not really a matter of him not doing it, "anymore." It was never a regular in the rotation.

Frankly, he shouldn't do it. That one performance is so amazing, so singular, so legendary, he couldn't top it if he played it over and over for the rest of his life.

Disagree with you about him not needing to do it. I would put it this way, that because it´s so amazing he really SHOULD perform it regularly. How has had so many amazing performances of a string of songs that I don´t see why it should be any different with this one. I think the 1983 performance is fantastic, too, but I am sure he is capable of doing a just as good performance of it now

And what about Old Friends 4 Sale - why no performance of this jam????

MrNorway said:

Genesia said:

Ummmm...he only performed Electric Intercourse once. So it's not really a matter of him not doing it, "anymore." It was never a regular in the rotation.

Frankly, he shouldn't do it. That one performance is so amazing, so singular, so legendary, he couldn't top it if he played it over and over for the rest of his life.

Disagree with you about him not needing to do it. I would put it this way, that because it´s so amazing he really SHOULD perform it regularly. How has had so many amazing performances of a string of songs that I don´t see why it should be any different with this one. I think the 1983 performance is fantastic, too, but I am sure he is capable of doing a just as good performance of it now

And what about Old Friends 4 Sale - why no performance of this jam????

No, he shouldn't. Some things are better left alone. Prince knows that.

Genesia said:

MrNorway said:

Disagree with you about him not needing to do it. I would put it this way, that because it´s so amazing he really SHOULD perform it regularly. How has had so many amazing performances of a string of songs that I don´t see why it should be any different with this one. I think the 1983 performance is fantastic, too, but I am sure he is capable of doing a just as good performance of it now

And what about Old Friends 4 Sale - why no performance of this jam????

No, he shouldn't. Some things are better left alone. Prince knows that.

I rather he not do it either...

Well, it seems like the two of you get your wishes after all, because it doesn´t seem like he´s planning on doing it any time soon. But like I´ve said; I so disagree and think he should NOT let a masterpiece like that just collect dust - play it and let people hear it, for God´s sake. That´s why he wrote it in the first place, I assume.

MrNorway said:

Genesia said:

Ummmm...he only performed Electric Intercourse once. So it's not really a matter of him not doing it, "anymore." It was never a regular in the rotation.

Frankly, he shouldn't do it. That one performance is so amazing, so singular, so legendary, he couldn't top it if he played it over and over for the rest of his life.

Disagree with you about him not needing to do it. I would put it this way, that because it´s so amazing he really SHOULD perform it regularly. How has had so many amazing performances of a string of songs that I don´t see why it should be any different with this one. I think the 1983 performance is fantastic, too, but I am sure he is capable of doing a just as good performance of it now

And what about Old Friends 4 Sale - why no performance of this jam????

The original lyrics are too personal, I suspect (and ironic now, since he's defending Wendy as a strong addition to the band). It's a shame because I don't hear anything in the original lyrics that would conflict with his current religious beliefs.

I doubt many fans would be interested in hearing the bowlderized version from The Vault live.

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Genesia said:

MrNorway said:

Disagree with you about him not needing to do it. I would put it this way, that because it´s so amazing he really SHOULD perform it regularly. How has had so many amazing performances of a string of songs that I don´t see why it should be any different with this one. I think the 1983 performance is fantastic, too, but I am sure he is capable of doing a just as good performance of it now

And what about Old Friends 4 Sale - why no performance of this jam????

No, he shouldn't. Some things are better left alone. Prince knows that.

How do you explain Extraloveable 2011 then? Instant disproval of that theory that he knows when to leave things alone!!

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electricberet said:

MrNorway said:

Disagree with you about him not needing to do it. I would put it this way, that because it´s so amazing he really SHOULD perform it regularly. How has had so many amazing performances of a string of songs that I don´t see why it should be any different with this one. I think the 1983 performance is fantastic, too, but I am sure he is capable of doing a just as good performance of it now

And what about Old Friends 4 Sale - why no performance of this jam????

The original lyrics are too personal, I suspect (and ironic now, since he's defending Wendy as a strong addition to the band). It's a shame because I don't hear anything in the original lyrics that would conflict with his current religious beliefs.

I doubt many fans would be interested in hearing the bowlderized version from The Vault live.

[Edited 12/16/11 15:15pm]

Unless he's embarrassed by the word "intercourse"... or he just don't wanna do it for personal reasons. I'm inclining to believe the latter.

TrevorAyer said:

prince is going for the upper middle aged female mom christian demographic .. he is on par with dione warwick these days .. just churning out sappy ballads and mundane lite jazz funk .. the sampler set is an easy way to play the nostalgia strings without violating his new code of mediocrity .. other than that u will get nothing interesting or honest out of him ever again

bold statement Trev....but true

Timmy84 said:

electricberet said:

The original lyrics are too personal, I suspect (and ironic now, since he's defending Wendy as a strong addition to the band). It's a shame because I don't hear anything in the original lyrics that would conflict with his current religious beliefs.

I doubt many fans would be interested in hearing the bowlderized version from The Vault live.

[Edited 12/16/11 15:15pm]

Unless he's embarrassed by the word "intercourse"... or he just don't wanna do it for personal reasons. I'm inclining to believe the latter.

Of course you´re right about the fact that it could be the word "intercourse", but Prince is creative enough to find a way to avoid using the word if he was interested in doing the song. I guess like he did on his "Creep" cover. I don´t know if it really is like this, but my interpretation is that he skips saying the word "creep" in the performance - maybe because he somehow doesn´t want to say it??

But I think I agree; he probably just doesn´t wanna perform it. But it´s a shame anyway...

electricberet said:

MrNorway said:

Disagree with you about him not needing to do it. I would put it this way, that because it´s so amazing he really SHOULD perform it regularly. How has had so many amazing performances of a string of songs that I don´t see why it should be any different with this one. I think the 1983 performance is fantastic, too, but I am sure he is capable of doing a just as good performance of it now

And what about Old Friends 4 Sale - why no performance of this jam????

The original lyrics are too personal, I suspect (and ironic now, since he's defending Wendy as a strong addition to the band). It's a shame because I don't hear anything in the original lyrics that would conflict with his current religious beliefs.

I doubt many fans would be interested in hearing the bowlderized version from The Vault live.

[Edited 12/16/11 15:15pm]

I have realized that a lot of fans for some reason don´t like the newer "The vault" version of OF4S - and I really really cannot understand it. I LOVE the original but I think the newer version is just as good. I think the string arrangement fits the song perfectly and gives it a fantastic vibe. And the way he sings it is also brilliant! IMO the re-recorded version is a great great success and it´s a bless that he has two different amazing versions of the same song. But i guess my taste is different from most Prince fans

Old Friends 4 Sale is a bummer and would slow the show down. I Hate U kind of is too; if he's going to bust out a slow jam, he's got other crowd-pleasers to get to first. And it's not like the song was a hit or anything. And Genesia's already summed it up about Electric Intercourse.

Personally, I wonder why he never performs I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man.

Old Friends was never released in its original form and its one of those too personal tunes as well as a time-era tune. The issues in the tune were happening 84-86 and have long passed.

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Efan said:

Old Friends 4 Sale is a bummer and would slow the show down. I Hate U kind of is too; if he's going to bust out a slow jam, he's got other crowd-pleasers to get to first. And it's not like the song was a hit or anything. And Genesia's already summed it up about Electric Intercourse.

Personally, I wonder why he never performs I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man.

When it comes to the show I suggested for OF4S, The Montreaux Jazz Festival, the song would fit perfectly. Just imagine him arranging it like the way he did with all of the songs he performed during the show - I am sure it would´ve been a crowd pleaser. And he could just have changed the lyrics if he felt it was too personal.

As for "I hate U", the song has EVERYTHING for it to be a hit, IMHO. And it deserves to be presented more often

the Dance Electric

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Genesia said:

No, he shouldn't. Some things are better left alone. Prince knows that.

How do you explain Extraloveable 2011 then? Instant disproval of that theory that he knows when to leave things alone!!

No, it isn't. Extraloveable is totally different. It's a song he originally did in the studio and that doesn't have a single, iconic performance attached to it - unlike Electric Intercourse, for which there is no circulating studio version to "revamp."

And anybody who thinks he'd come out now with a song that has "Intercourse" in the title has a clinker in their thinker.

While I may get the tar and feather treatment. I NEVER understood the love for "Electric Intercourse" I am glad it was left out of the movie.

The real question is why Ballad of Dorothy Parker is not played more often?!

Genesia said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

How do you explain Extraloveable 2011 then? Instant disproval of that theory that he knows when to leave things alone!!

No, it isn't. Extraloveable is totally different. It's a song he originally did in the studio and that doesn't have a single, iconic performance attached to it - unlike Electric Intercourse, for which there is no circulating studio version to "revamp."

And anybody who thinks he'd come out now with a song that has "Intercourse" in the title has a clinker in their thinker.

What about Purple Rain, this was a song not recorded in the studio and look how many times he's played that since!

It does disprove such a generalisation though, he clearly does not know when to leave some things alone (he even self parodies this on the song Props n Pounds). Unless you were a bit fan of EL2011?!

EL 2011 is a barely recognisable, but he gives it the same title.

I don't think he would perform Electric Intercourse again but it's not because I think he knows when to leave things, he probably just doesn't fancy it... but if he changes his mind, he'll be sure to wheel it out again.. hell it's a lot 'cleaner' than Extraloveable lyric wise...

It's like recently in Canada he's been wheeling out old songs he wasn't performed live for years, such as Get Wild.....

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DecaturStone said:

While I may get the tar and feather treatment. I NEVER understood the love for "Electric Intercourse" I am glad it was left out of the movie.

The real question is why Ballad of Dorothy Parker is not played more often?!

WORD!

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Genesia said:

No, it isn't. Extraloveable is totally different. It's a song he originally did in the studio and that doesn't have a single, iconic performance attached to it - unlike Electric Intercourse, for which there is no circulating studio version to "revamp."

And anybody who thinks he'd come out now with a song that has "Intercourse" in the title has a clinker in their thinker.

It does disprove such a generalisation though, he clearly does not know when to leave some things alone (he even self parodies this on the song Props n Pounds). Unless you were a bit fan of EL2011?!

EL 2011 is a barely recognisable, but he gives it the same title.

I don't think he would perform Electric Intercourse again but it's not that he knows when to leave things, he probably just doesn't fancy it... but if he changes his mind, he'll be sure to wheel it out again.. hell it's a lot 'cleaner' than Extraloveable lyric wise...

It's like recently in Canada he's been wheeling out old songs he wasn't performed live for years, such as Get Wild.....

I disagree.

Just because he messed around with Extra Loveable, what does anyone think he'll mess with Electric Intercourse?

^ Er...easy...because he messed around with it.....

Never try to predict Prince, many a fan has said he'll 'never do this or that' and he does. Did anyone expect him to play 'Inalargeroomwithnolight' live at Montreux 2009?

Hate to break it to you but:

29 years after he made EL he covered it..... its nearly coming up for 29 years of Electric Intercourse too...you'd better hope and pray it gets left alone!!!

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^ Riiiiiiiiiight. OK, we'll see come 2012 if he does anything with it... and if not? Oh well.

By the way, some of y'all seem to love to predict what's the next song Prince would "fuck" with. Y'all didn't expect Extra Loveable though.

Let me listen to Electric Intercourse again and try to understand the love for it. I was rather boring to me