TrevorAyer said:

artist76 said:

Yes, banishedone is right - of course it's played by P - just like those acoustic versions of "Love is a Losing Game" and "Guitar" that he did (w/ Andy) over the summer. He's played acoustic on MTV and that CNN interview around the Musicology time too.

Don't understand the rant about buying gear at kmart... You seriously think that's Andy playing?

i am pleased if this is indeed prince on acoustic .. his truth record was 'acoustic' and the guitar tones sounded plastic thin and crappy .. not since 'sometimes it snows in april' have i heard anything from prince that sounds even remotely like an actual acoustic guitar .. usually it sounds like he got some guitar with extra light strings and a thin body so he can play it easier .. but the sound is awful .. i have always loved his crazy sounds on his old records .. the new wave shit .. but he went from putting things thru effects and making something cool .. to just sounding plastic and thin on pretty much everything .. rainbow children had great tones .. but crap songs .. still nothing sounding like an acoustic guitar .. thats my gripe .. prince needs to sound more real if he is not gonna sound like a robot space alien purple funk creature anymore ... he just sounds like a crappy cheap knock off u buy at kmart for the last several records due to the equipment he chooses .. its a similar gripe as those who don't like the production of emancipation or new power soul .. its about tone and the instruments he uses to record

Whats wrong with being robot space alien purple funk creature?

No his production is much more real and raw then it was on Emancipation.

And back to the topic,that acoustic guitar ,timing,voicing ,strumms that is Prince 100%

"Oui Can Luv"...... seriously?

NouveauDance said:

"Oui Can Luv"...... seriously?

Is that one or two guitars we're hearing? Sounds like two from the "I'm scared.." part. If so - Prince doing overdubs or Andy and Prince playing together?

I like it a lot. An acoustic, slowed down version really works. Hoping Prince will record or has his own version, with more striking guitar, obviously.

Genesia, Amy Winehouse had a scratchy voice.

2freaky4church1 said:

I like it a lot. An acoustic, slowed down version really works. Hoping Prince will record or has his own version, with more striking guitar, obviously.

Genesia, Amy Winehouse had a scratchy voice.

And she's dead. What's your point?

Genesia said:

2freaky4church1 said:

I like it a lot. An acoustic, slowed down version really works. Hoping Prince will record or has his own version, with more striking guitar, obviously.

Genesia, Amy Winehouse had a scratchy voice.

And she's dead. What's your point?

She had sexy eyebrows too.

So pointy.

2freaky4church1 said:

I like it a lot. An acoustic, slowed down version really works. Hoping Prince will record or has his own version, with more striking guitar, obviously.

Genesia, Amy Winehouse had a scratchy voice.

For me, it's not just that the vocal isn't "natural" or like she needs to clear her throat. It's that Andy's voice and accent (when she sings - she doesn't talk this way) sounds affected - like she's trying to be a young billie holliday or something, but she can't pull it off. I know singers can have different singing voices/diction/phrasing than speaking voices, and that it can be great. But if you're not good enough, or mature enough, or sure enough, or whatever it is enough, to pull it off, it can be kinda annoying. I think she's not yet mature or found herself as a performer.

Also, I personally don't like voices that are too wispy, no strength behind it. That doesn't mean I only like voices that belt - Sarah MacLachlan, George Michael, Sade, they can sing "softly" but there's a fullness/strength. My daughter's in a prestigious children's choir, and they're teaching her that singingly quietly or tenderly does not mean whispering.

Amy Winehouse had a "scratchy" voice, but it suited her, it sounded real, and it was good IMO. Same with Billie Holliday.

NeonCraxx said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:

If she's going to be singing them, who cares??!!!?

He should've just released the original damn track instead of getting her to cover it and piss on a classic like this. "Oui Can Luv"??? God, that's corny! Prince, stop playin' around and having your latest fuck-of-the-month re-record (and basterdize, I might add) your shit and just give the fans what they really want. Cuz, it sho'nuff ain't this shit!

Prince fans don't all want the same thing.

Prince has a very diverse fanbase that want different things.

Can Prince provide them all? No.

Speak for yourself, please?

nah he can speak for me as well cause the title alone says "the time is a changing" really why even bother posting this song? if i want 2 hear a version of this song other than P doing it then give me the version that's all george clinton from the hey man smell my finger sessions.

or hell give me the rocking 10 minute version that circulates with p and george on the vocals

acoustic version by prince singing it would have been nice as well like the version of Love that was done

if u want his back up singers singing mountains, we can funk ..knock yourself out ..

but don't u speak for all fans either

Whatsinit4me said:

2 be frank, Allo can't sing.

I'll take Bria V. over this 1 any day & I wasn't fond of her voice either.

Maybe Prince needs a male protege instead.

that would be cool however his ego couldn't take it that another male on stage would swoon the ladies and take away from him

artist76 said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

Whatsinit4me said:

2 be frank, Allo can't sing.

I'll take Bria V. over this 1 any day & I wasn't fond of her voice either.

Maybe Prince needs a male protege instead.

that would be cool however his ego couldn't take it that another male on stage would swoon the ladies and take away from him

Yeah, dude was damn near ready to thrown Miko out just because he was getting some of the chicks that he wanted. And, look what he did with The Time when Morris, Jesse, and the fellas were getting all that lady love from the crowd (in addition to the fact that they were kickin' his ass on an almost nightly basis). He started shuttin' that shit DOWN, so you KNOW he wouldn't take to kindly to some NEW dude taking away some of the ladies' attention from his old ass!

L4OATheOriginal said:

NeonCraxx said:

Prince fans don't all want the same thing.

Prince has a very diverse fanbase that want different things.

Can Prince provide them all? No.

Speak for yourself, please?

nah he can speak for me as well cause the title alone says "the time is a changing" really why even bother posting this song? if i want 2 hear a version of this song other than P doing it then give me the version that's all george clinton from the hey man smell my finger sessions.

or hell give me the rocking 10 minute version that circulates with p and george on the vocals

acoustic version by prince singing it would have been nice as well like the version of Love that was done

if u want his back up singers singing mountains, we can funk ..knock yourself out ..

but don't u speak for all fans either

Another one for the anti-Prince-dumb-bullshit army!! And again, "Oui Can Luv"???? Really? God, I wish there was a facepalm emoticon here.

Genesia said:

artist76 said:

For me, it's not just that the vocal isn't "natural" or like she needs to clear her throat. It's that Andy's voice and accent (when she sings - she doesn't talk this way) sounds affected - like she's trying to be a young billie holliday or something, but she can't pull it off. I know singers can have different singing voices/diction/phrasing than speaking voices, and that it can be great. But if you're not good enough, or mature enough, or sure enough, or whatever it is enough, to pull it off, it can be kinda annoying. I think she's not yet mature or found herself as a performer.

Also, I personally don't like voices that are too wispy, no strength behind it. That doesn't mean I only like voices that belt - Sarah MacLachlan, George Michael, Sade, they can sing "softly" but there's a fullness/strength. My daughter's in a prestigious children's choir, and they're teaching her that singingly quietly or tenderly does not mean whispering.

Amy Winehouse had a "scratchy" voice, but it suited her, it sounded real, and it was good IMO. Same with Billie Holliday.

Funny you should mention Billie Holliday. When I listened to this, I thought, "So. Prince wanted folks to think 'Sade' when they heard Bria, and now he has Andy riffing on Billie Holliday. Why can't he let these girls be who they are?"

@artist76, Well put. I agree. Andy is okay but she's far from great. Prince probably thinks he can make her great by giving her his old songs to sing and trying to turn her into a female version of himself. He's not making great songs like he use to and he has made enough great songs that he doesn't need to write anymore but I think it's funny seeing him do what he's doing with Andy.

I get the feeling they are trying too hard. Andy mentioned on FB something about an idea her and Prince had for SNL. I don't recall anyone in Prince's band or anyone Prince was working with sharing on FB what they discuss in private? He gave her the O.K. Andy is Prince's link to the younger generation on FB and twitter. Prince is using her to put things out there. He can find out what the fans want and don't want. I doubt Prince and Andy know what direction they want to go as far as her career because she's not a great singer or musician. Andy is very good at imitating but there hasn't been anything too original about her. I liked two of her original songs and that's all. Her voice became a bit annoying but when I first heard her songs and how she put her first album out on her on she caught my attention until Prince took over. Her hairstyle is not original but she's pretty so people are praising her on FB and acting like she's the first woman to wear a big afro. I think people are only stroking her ego on FB because she's with Prince. All the modeling work she did in the past is coming out because she went on tour with Prince. It's good marketing and promotion for all parties. It's so funny how Prince quickly scooped her up and Andy is a pretty, impressionable, new artist from Cameroon so I can see why Prince chose her. Could she be his Golden goose? I doubt it. Again, I think it's Wash, Rinse, Repeat.

@Genesia, Prince can't let these girls who want to be stars be who they are because he's Prince. He has been turning people into the characters he wants them to be for a very long time.

alexnvrmnd777 said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

that would be cool however his ego couldn't take it that another male on stage would swoon the ladies and take away from him

Yeah, dude was damn near ready to thrown Miko out just because he was getting some of the chicks that he wanted. And, look what he did with The Time when Morris, Jesse, and the fellas were getting all that lady love from the crowd (in addition to the fact that they were kickin' his ass on an almost nightly basis). He started shuttin' that shit DOWN, so you KNOW he wouldn't take to kindly to some NEW dude taking away some of the ladies' attention from his old ass!

and any other male in his band that gets the mic 2 sing was kip blackshire and let me not even talk about that any further than just teh mention of his name

alexnvrmnd777 said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

nah he can speak for me as well cause the title alone says "the time is a changing" really why even bother posting this song? if i want 2 hear a version of this song other than P doing it then give me the version that's all george clinton from the hey man smell my finger sessions.

or hell give me the rocking 10 minute version that circulates with p and george on the vocals

acoustic version by prince singing it would have been nice as well like the version of Love that was done

if u want his back up singers singing mountains, we can funk ..knock yourself out ..

but don't u speak for all fans either

Another one for the anti-Prince-dumb-bullshit army!! And again, "Oui Can Luv"???? Really? God, I wish there was a facepalm emoticon here.

and the more i think about the title ..Oui? that means YES in french! lawd have mercy ..so the song is called yes can luv? wtf?

L4OATheOriginal said:

but don't u speak for all fans either

I WASN'T.

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Another one for the anti-Prince-dumb-bullshit army!!

Seriously. Get over yourself.

[Edited 11/15/11 5:53am]

I still haven't seen/heard enough of Andy to form an opinion, I like when Prince producers/writes for others, so I'll always be intrigued. If they keep with this acoustic/old school thing (whatever) they have going, it could make for an interesting side project - I'm always up for another protege album on the side

umanbing said:

Genesia said:

artist76 said: Funny you should mention Billie Holliday. When I listened to this, I thought, "So. Prince wanted folks to think 'Sade' when they heard Bria, and now he has Andy riffing on Billie Holliday. Why can't he let these girls be who they are?"

@artist76, Well put. I agree. Andy is okay but she's far from great. Prince probably thinks he can make her great by giving her his old songs to sing and trying to turn her into a female version of himself. He's not making great songs like he use to and he has made enough great songs that he doesn't need to write anymore but I think it's funny seeing him do what he's doing with Andy.

I get the feeling they are trying too hard. Andy mentioned on FB something about an idea her and Prince had for SNL. I don't recall anyone in Prince's band or anyone Prince was working with sharing on FB what they discuss in private? He gave her the O.K. Andy is Prince's link to the younger generation on FB and twitter. Prince is using her to put things out there. He can find out what the fans want and don't want. I doubt Prince and Andy know what direction they want to go as far as her career because she's not a great singer or musician. Andy is very good at imitating but there hasn't been anything too original about her. I liked two of her original songs and that's all. Her voice became a bit annoying but when I first heard her songs and how she put her first album out on her on she caught my attention until Prince took over. Her hairstyle is not original but she's pretty so people are praising her on FB and acting like she's the first woman to wear a big afro. I think people are only stroking her ego on FB because she's with Prince. All the modeling work she did in the past is coming out because she went on tour with Prince. It's good marketing and promotion for all parties. It's so funny how Prince quickly scooped her up and Andy is a pretty, impressionable, new artist from Cameroon so I can see why Prince chose her. Could she be his Golden goose? I doubt it. Again, I think it's Wash, Rinse, Repeat.

@Genesia, Prince can't let these girls who want to be stars be who they are because he's Prince. He has been turning people into the characters he wants them to be for a very long time.

It was a rhetorical question, honey. I've been around almost as long as Prince has. I know how he do.

artist76 said:

For me, it's not just that the vocal isn't "natural" or like she needs to clear her throat. It's that Andy's voice and accent (when she sings - she doesn't talk this way) sounds affected - like she's trying to be a young billie holliday or something, but she can't pull it off. I know singers can have different singing voices/diction/phrasing than speaking voices, and that it can be great. But if you're not good enough, or mature enough, or sure enough, or whatever it is enough, to pull it off, it can be kinda annoying. I think she's not yet mature or found herself as a performer.

Also, I personally don't like voices that are too wispy, no strength behind it. That doesn't mean I only like voices that belt - Sarah MacLachlan, George Michael, Sade, they can sing "softly" but there's a fullness/strength. My daughter's in a prestigious children's choir, and they're teaching her that singingly quietly or tenderly does not mean whispering.

Amy Winehouse had a "scratchy" voice, but it suited her, it sounded real, and it was good IMO. Same with Billie Holliday.

When I first saw/heard Andy sing on that Africa Channel special, her type of singing voice reminds me of an R&B singer named 'Billy Miles' with a twist of 'Erykah Badu' and 'Corinne Bailey' and some 'Jill Scott' thrown in, when she sings specific songs. I'll think she'll do just fine in her singing career. Here's a pic of Billy Miles;both have similar singing voices.

[Edited 11/15/11 10:59am]

NeonCraxx said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

but don't u speak for all fans either

I WASN'T.

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Another one for the anti-Prince-dumb-bullshit army!!

Seriously. Get over yourself.

[Edited 11/15/11 5:53am]

Awwww, is someone a little perturbed? Deal with it. No one was even talking to or addressing you, so YOU get over it.

[Edited 11/15/11 7:29am]

L4OATheOriginal said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Yeah, dude was damn near ready to thrown Miko out just because he was getting some of the chicks that he wanted. And, look what he did with The Time when Morris, Jesse, and the fellas were getting all that lady love from the crowd (in addition to the fact that they were kickin' his ass on an almost nightly basis). He started shuttin' that shit DOWN, so you KNOW he wouldn't take to kindly to some NEW dude taking away some of the ladies' attention from his old ass!

and any other male in his band that gets the mic 2 sing was kip blackshire and let me not even talk about that any further than just teh mention of his name

Yeah, and he was in and out like a john in a whore.

L4OATheOriginal said:

Whatsinit4me said:

MadamGoodnight said:

Thanks for the warning. I'm not fond of that Corrine Bailey Rae sound. It sounds like a baby farm animal, baaa baaa. I'll be skipping it.

OMG, no u didn't MadamGoodnight!!

No you didn't.

Oh yes I did

I'm not a fan of those kind of vocals. Corinne Bailey Bore mucked up I Wanna Be Your Lover, which is unforgivable. Now this one is doing the same? Leave it alone.

It's sad when one of the greatest aligns himself with the very average and mediocre.

umanbing said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

and the more i think about the title ..Oui? that means YES in french! lawd have mercy ..so the song is called yes can luv? wtf?

Another reason I won't listen to her sing his song. The title change is so corny. She obviously doesn't think so or wouldn't tell him even if she did think it was corny bcuz she's just happy to have this gig. As someone who has followed Prince4 career for many years I don't like when he tries to play people like they are mindless robots who should appreciate everything he does bcuz he's Prince. I couldn't appreciate Andy's cove of Amy Winehouse's song bcuz I felt Prince was using Amy's death to help give his new protegee more exposure. It wasn't a sincere tribute to Amy Winehouse imho. This cover of Prince's song is another thing to keep us going on about her so he can get more people interested in seeing them in concert. I get it.

why was she even doing amy's song when shelby has always sang that song and IMO gave it more depth in vocals?

umanbing said:

Her hairstyle is not original but she's pretty so people are praising her on FB and acting like she's the first woman to wear a big afro. I think people are only stroking her ego on FB because she's with Prince.

They do? She's not the first to wear a fro and she won't be the last. Macy Gray has been wearing a fro for years. Most of those people must live in the boonies. There are a ton of Andys around, artsy fartsy girls at coffee shops, & poetry readings. Go to Venice Beach, Melrose, The Village in NYC, Little Five Points in Atlanta, you will see them there. There's nothing about Andy that stands out to me outside of her looks, and her connection to P.

L4OATheOriginal said:

umanbing said:

L4OATheOriginal said: Another reason I won't listen to her sing his song. The title change is so corny. She obviously doesn't think so or wouldn't tell him even if she did think it was corny bcuz she's just happy to have this gig. As someone who has followed Prince4 career for many years I don't like when he tries to play people like they are mindless robots who should appreciate everything he does bcuz he's Prince. I couldn't appreciate Andy's cove of Amy Winehouse's song bcuz I felt Prince was using Amy's death to help give his new protegee more exposure. It wasn't a sincere tribute to Amy Winehouse imho. This cover of Prince's song is another thing to keep us going on about her so he can get more people interested in seeing them in concert. I get it.

why was she even doing amy's song when shelby has always sang that song and IMO gave it more depth in vocals?

Yes, Shelby can blow. Stacey Francis can blow. I will give give credit when credit is due, to people like that. However, I don't drink that Purple Kool Aid.

MadamGoodnight said:

umanbing said:

Her hairstyle is not original but she's pretty so people are praising her on FB and acting like she's the first woman to wear a big afro. I think people are only stroking her ego on FB because she's with Prince.

They do? She's not the first to wear a fro and she won't be the last. Macy Gray has been wearing a fro for years. Most of those people must live in the boonies. There are a ton of Andys around, artsy fartsy girls at coffee shops, & poetry readings. Go to Venice Beach, Melrose, The Village in NYC, Little Five Points in Atlanta, you will see them there. There's nothing about Andy that stands out to me outside of her looks, and her connection to P.

I still think he was really interested in Esperanza Spalding and - when he couldn't get her - went for a lookalike.

Genesia said:

xLiberiangirl said:

I'm sorry, but I hate all those affected, "look at me, I'm singing with laryngitis" vocals.

Get the frog out of your throat and put some support under the note, fer cryin' out loud. Have Prince show you how he laid on the floor under the piano or something.

AMEN!