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Thread started 07/25/11 9:34pm

rusty1

are prince and sheila e. done musically with each other for good?

I hope they've patched things up. Rumors were swirling that sheila e. was done performing with prince. They go all the way back to 1983. It would be a shame because of the great chemistry they always had together. Sheila E. was one of his best drummers ever!

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Reply #1 posted 07/25/11 9:56pm

ilovebubbles

They go back to 1978, and this is the wrong forum.
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Reply #2 posted 07/25/11 11:47pm

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I'm glad I got to see them perform together in Oakland.

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Reply #3 posted 07/26/11 1:53am

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ilovebubbles said:

They go back to 1978, and this is the wrong forum.

How is Prince's musical efforts with another out of scope for a Prince Music forum?

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Reply #4 posted 07/26/11 4:50am

Harlepolis

Doubt it.

They have always been on & off.

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Reply #5 posted 07/26/11 6:06am

mimi02

Well, I think she answered this question in this interview.

http://mojocincy.com/vide...irst-time/

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Reply #6 posted 07/26/11 9:04am

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mimi02 said:

Well, I think she answered this question in this interview.

http://mojocincy.com/vide...irst-time/

the falling out happened after this

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Reply #7 posted 07/26/11 9:18am

mimi02

uuhson said:

mimi02 said:

Well, I think she answered this question in this interview.

http://mojocincy.com/vide...irst-time/

the falling out happened after this

What happened?

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Reply #8 posted 07/26/11 9:32am

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mimi02 said:

uuhson said:

the falling out happened after this

What happened?

The Escovedo family was supposed to open for Prince in San Jose only to find themselves ousted after being "double-booked" with Larry Graham. That's when a falling out may have occurred.

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Reply #9 posted 07/26/11 9:35am

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ilovebubbles said:

They go back to 1978, and this is the wrong forum.

I think he means in terms of performing together.

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Reply #10 posted 07/26/11 9:58am

mimi02

purplethunder3121 said:

mimi02 said:

What happened?

The Escovedo family was supposed to open for Prince in San Jose only to find themselves ousted after being "double-booked" with Larry Graham. That's when a falling out may have occurred.

That sounds like classic Prince mess.

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Reply #11 posted 07/26/11 8:59pm

rusty1

wow

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Reply #12 posted 07/26/11 10:19pm

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mimi02 said:

purplethunder3121 said:

The Escovedo family was supposed to open for Prince in San Jose only to find themselves ousted after being "double-booked" with Larry Graham. That's when a falling out may have occurred.

That sounds like classic Prince mess.

That's the ONLY goddamn reason??? eek eek eek

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Reply #13 posted 07/26/11 11:20pm

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databank said:

mimi02 said:

That sounds like classic Prince mess.

That's the ONLY goddamn reason??? eek eek eek

shrug Only they know for sure.

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Reply #14 posted 07/27/11 12:01am

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purplethunder3121 said:

databank said:

That's the ONLY goddamn reason??? eek eek eek

shrug Only they know for sure.

True.

I haven't heard a dang thing about this. Not that I would have at any other time in Prince's career - I don't generally care about these messes. Even with Sheila, like somebody else said, there's been other long periods of time when she didn't perform with him. The supposed incident doesn't surprise me, but that doesn't seem like enough on its own to have caused a rift. More likely the way it was handled (i.e. discussed, or not) would be the cause. shrug Who knows. Sheila should have an easier time now than ever before (what with her "legacy" and the internet and all that) being booked as a solo act or as the Escevedo family. So she doesn't really have much or a reason to hate on dude. Maybe she's just tired of the inconsistencies. Again shrug I just typed a whole bunch and didn't really say anything. lol

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Reply #15 posted 07/27/11 4:25am

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The E Family performing in the Bay Area this weekend

PETE ESCOVEDO knows he's lucky to have such a talented musical family. He really does. But that doesn't mean he can keep them all straight. The sheer size of his clan gives the South Bay's favorite bandleader plenty of trouble at family gatherings. "I'm always surprised, like 'There's another one! There's another relative, I don't remember that one,'" he says. "There's too many Escovedos."

Then again, who wouldn't want to be one? The legendary Latin percussionist was the son of a big band vocalist, and got his start with his brothers Phil and Coke in the 1960s, until Santana hired Pete and Coke to play in his band. Another brother is Alejandro Escovedo, one of Texas' most acclaimed singer/songwriters. Pete's son Peter Michael has made his mark as a percussionist on television (and is the biological father of Nicole Richie); his other son Juan and daughter Zina got their start playing in his Latin jazz band. So did his other daughter Sheila, better known as Sheila E.

It gets even more complicated than that, but suffice it to say that after years of playing on each other's CDs, an official E Family album, Now & Forever, has finally been cut, featuring a core of Pete, Sheila, Juan and Peter Michael, and appearances from such non-family stars as Gloria Estefan, Joss Stone and Earth, Wind & Fire.

Making that happen was quite a challenge, considering the schedules that had to be coordinated, and the different styles, as well. "We've always wanted to do something like this," says Pete. "I've had the kids on my CDs, and some of us have been on Sheila's CDs. It was great fun, but it was not easy. Here we are, we all have our individual projects, we all have our individual tastes in music—how we record, the way it's done, everything. And who we were going to use as far as personnel was concerned. We had our disagreements, like any other family."

Rather than playing the "because I'm your father, that's why" card, Pete took great pains to make sure everyone had equal say in how the record was done. "It was great, because we got the chance to vote on things, majority wins," he says.

This Montalvo show is a second chance for the South Bay to see the E Family, after they were supposed to open Prince's HP shows. Sheila, once again a member of Prince's band as well as getting her own featured spots, was a highlight of Prince's run of shows this year, and the E Family did open one of the shows at the Forum in L.A. They were booked to open the San Jose shows, but at the last minute found out they had been double-booked with Larry Graham, who ended up opening.

"We had to turn around and come home," he says. "We were looking forward to it, because we have a real good fan base in San Jose."

hmmm

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Reply #16 posted 07/27/11 7:40am

mimi02

Cerebus said:

purplethunder3121 said:

shrug Only they know for sure.

True.

I haven't heard a dang thing about this. Not that I would have at any other time in Prince's career - I don't generally care about these messes. Even with Sheila, like somebody else said, there's been other long periods of time when she didn't perform with him. The supposed incident doesn't surprise me, but that doesn't seem like enough on its own to have caused a rift. More likely the way it was handled (i.e. discussed, or not) would be the cause. shrug Who knows. Sheila should have an easier time now than ever before (what with her "legacy" and the internet and all that) being booked as a solo act or as the Escevedo family. So she doesn't really have much or a reason to hate on dude. Maybe she's just tired of the inconsistencies. Again shrug I just typed a whole bunch and didn't really say anything. lol

Yeah, I'm going to see her next month when she comes to my city. This will be my first concert in forever, so I'm definitely looking forward to it. She is such a talent performer and she can definitely stand on her own!!

As far as "hating" him goes, you don't have to have that strong of a feeling to be through with someone. I believe that being constantly disappointed by someone is reason enough.

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Reply #17 posted 07/27/11 7:50am

mimi02

SoulAlive said:

The E Family performing in the Bay Area this weekend

PETE ESCOVEDO knows he's lucky to have such a talented musical family. He really does. But that doesn't mean he can keep them all straight. The sheer size of his clan gives the South Bay's favorite bandleader plenty of trouble at family gatherings. "I'm always surprised, like 'There's another one! There's another relative, I don't remember that one,'" he says. "There's too many Escovedos."

Then again, who wouldn't want to be one? The legendary Latin percussionist was the son of a big band vocalist, and got his start with his brothers Phil and Coke in the 1960s, until Santana hired Pete and Coke to play in his band. Another brother is Alejandro Escovedo, one of Texas' most acclaimed singer/songwriters. Pete's son Peter Michael has made his mark as a percussionist on television (and is the biological father of Nicole Richie); his other son Juan and daughter Zina got their start playing in his Latin jazz band. So did his other daughter Sheila, better known as Sheila E.

It gets even more complicated than that, but suffice it to say that after years of playing on each other's CDs, an official E Family album, Now & Forever, has finally been cut, featuring a core of Pete, Sheila, Juan and Peter Michael, and appearances from such non-family stars as Gloria Estefan, Joss Stone and Earth, Wind & Fire.

Making that happen was quite a challenge, considering the schedules that had to be coordinated, and the different styles, as well. "We've always wanted to do something like this," says Pete. "I've had the kids on my CDs, and some of us have been on Sheila's CDs. It was great fun, but it was not easy. Here we are, we all have our individual projects, we all have our individual tastes in music—how we record, the way it's done, everything. And who we were going to use as far as personnel was concerned. We had our disagreements, like any other family."

Rather than playing the "because I'm your father, that's why" card, Pete took great pains to make sure everyone had equal say in how the record was done. "It was great, because we got the chance to vote on things, majority wins," he says.

This Montalvo show is a second chance for the South Bay to see the E Family, after they were supposed to open Prince's HP shows. Sheila, once again a member of Prince's band as well as getting her own featured spots, was a highlight of Prince's run of shows this year, and the E Family did open one of the shows at the Forum in L.A. They were booked to open the San Jose shows, but at the last minute found out they had been double-booked with Larry Graham, who ended up opening.

"We had to turn around and come home," he says. "We were looking forward to it, because we have a real good fan base in San Jose."

hmmm

Well, there it is. I'm really not doubting that if there's a riff, that was the reason. They were "double-booked"? How does that happen when Prince insist on controlling every aspect of his performances. Hmm, is right. Again, sounds like classic Prince mess!!

That's ok, though, Sheila doesn't need to with Prince to get an audience.

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Reply #18 posted 07/27/11 8:29am

cbarnes3121

yall so easy to strum up drama its crazy just as prince is a busy person sheila is as well she has her hands in alot of projexts and when time permits she and prince will be sharing a stage or studio again as always

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Reply #19 posted 07/27/11 9:38am

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cbarnes3121 said:

yall so easy to strum up drama its crazy just as prince is a busy person sheila is as well she has her hands in alot of projexts and when time permits she and prince will be sharing a stage or studio again as always

Excellent, nice to know that you know them both personally. Any chance of getting me Sheila's autograph?

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Reply #20 posted 07/28/11 7:56am

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erik319 said:

cbarnes3121 said:

yall so easy to strum up drama its crazy just as prince is a busy person sheila is as well she has her hands in alot of projexts and when time permits she and prince will be sharing a stage or studio again as always

Excellent, nice to know that you know them both personally. Any chance of getting me Sheila's autograph?

NO!!!! You know Rumors are not true, right?

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Reply #21 posted 07/28/11 11:20am

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Dalia11 said:

erik319 said:

Excellent, nice to know that you know them both personally. Any chance of getting me Sheila's autograph?

NO!!!! You know Rumors are not true, right?

No, rumors aren't true. The "double-booking" incident is verifiable; therefore, not a rumor. No, I (like alot of others on here) don't know either party enough to say with absolute confidence the state of their relationship. The OP asked a questioned and we chose to answer it. There a 50/50 chance that someone(s) who has posted is right/wrong, only time will tell. biggrin

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Reply #22 posted 07/29/11 1:11am

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Dalia11 said:

erik319 said:

Excellent, nice to know that you know them both personally. Any chance of getting me Sheila's autograph?

NO!!!! You know Rumors are not true, right?

What a stupid comment. Many rumour turn out to be true. For example, the rumour I started many years ago that people who post in bold tend to be Prince apologists.

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Reply #23 posted 08/07/11 10:56am

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erik319 said:

Dalia11 said:

NO!!!! You know Rumors are not true, right?

What a stupid comment. Many rumour turn out to be true. For example, the rumour I started many years ago that people who post in bold tend to be Prince apologists.

I do not think that they are done musically. They are opposite signs and opposites work well together. They may argue, disagree, not talk for some time, but they do compliment the other. That is how it is, was, and will always be with Prince and Sheila E.

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Reply #24 posted 08/07/11 12:46pm

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I doubt it....... Sheila was at the Prince concert i saw in april. She came on and performed with him, so i doubt there done.

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Reply #25 posted 08/07/11 12:54pm

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Gunsnhalen said:

I doubt it....... Sheila was at the Prince concert i saw in april. She came on and performed with him, so i doubt there done.

Sheila twittered (in may?) : "I will not be performing with Prince anymore,..."

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Reply #26 posted 08/07/11 1:09pm

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artist319 said:

Gunsnhalen said:

I doubt it....... Sheila was at the Prince concert i saw in april. She came on and performed with him, so i doubt there done.

Sheila twittered (in may?) : "I will not be performing with Prince anymore,..."

?? really

Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

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Reply #27 posted 08/07/11 1:18pm

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Gunsnhalen said:

artist319 said:

Sheila twittered (in may?) : "I will not be performing with Prince anymore,..."

?? really

Yes.

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