Militant said:

Oh shit.

On the front of the Guardian website, the quote has now been reduced to simply Prince - "It's fun being in Islamic countries. There's no choice."

Jeeeeeeez this is not good.

It's not looking good, is it?

Everyone's been saying Prince should take a year or two off before releasing another CD. So what's the problem now?

Well from the beginning Prince has said a many-a-thing that has left me looking like and yet here I sit, so this, right here, doesn't faze me a bit, if, after all this time, anybody is expecting anything just simple, straight forward and normal to come out of his mouth, keep holding you breathe, off to the side is how it is with him, deal with it, at this point in his life it's religion. Of course there have been those rare occasions (well I can only think of one interview, actually). Butnot releasing another album/cd (whatever), I think my heart just stopped. Heck just last night I was listening to one of my least favorite album of his while piddling around the house and was surprised how much I was actually enjoying it. So honestly I don't care if whatever he does isn't a monster or commercial success or even if a lot of org folk don't like it. Personally, at some point I find enjoyment out of it.

pepper7 said:

Ironically if u look at the comments on the guardian website they are mainly positive. Maybe Prince does know what he's doing afterall...

Yeah, I said the same earlier in the thread, although they're not positive in the sense they're agreeing with his comments - they're positive in the sense that everyone pretty much agrees he's a has been who's always said crazy shit, but he get's a free pass on his dumb-fuck comments because of his awesome 80s catalogue.

Once again much to do about nothing.

don't c anything wrong with the interview. like it. Most geniuses think out the box.

2 b an entertainer & in the industry U don't think like every one else that is not naturally gifted like Prince. Its a gift & a curse. Prince has found inner peace in himself 2 deal with the real world that has put him in a place that most will never be.

Give him a break! He has been a superstar practically all his whole life. So of course he is going 2 go by his own rules, Because he can. He will always be misunderstood. Anyone that calls themselves a Prince fan should already know this about him. George Lopez thinks he is cool & so was the interview.

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

don't c anything wrong with the interview. like it. Most geniuses think out the box.

2 b an entertainer & in the industry U don't think like every one else that is not naturally gifted like Prince. Its a gift & a curse. Prince has found inner peace in himself 2 deal with the real world that has put him in a place that most will never be.

Give him a break! He has been a superstar practically all his whole life. So of course he is going 2 go by his own rules, Because he can. He will always be misunderstood. Anyone that calls themselves a Prince fan should already know this about him. George Lopez thinks he is cool & so was the interview.

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You don't see the issue with him saying people are happy with being told what to do?

imago said:

thisisit said:

"order, unity, humility, i like that. stillness speaks. noise doesnt. we're flesh and blood, not data. piracy is for pirates. my ship sails free."

thats what i'm hearing.

rocket science?

bboy87 said:

You don't see the issue with him saying people are happy with being told what to do?

Of course they do, they're as see-through as their idol.

JudasSmile said:

There is an excerpt from an interview with Prince here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk...CMP=twt_fd

There was a time when Prince's idea of fun was something beyond the wildest imaginings of most – his song Gett Off talked of "23 positions in a one-night stand", while Tipper Gore was so shocked when she heard her daughter listening to Darling Nikki she founded the Parents Music Resource Center to police perceived obscenity in pop. At 53, though, the eccentric star no longer sees sex as the be all and end all of a good time.

In an exclusive interview with the Guardian's Film&Music, Prince said: "It's fun being in Islamic countries, to know there's only one religion. There's order. You wear a burqa. There's no choice. People are happy with that." When asked about the fate of those unhappy with having no choice, he replied: "There are people who are unhappy with everything. There's a dark side to everything."

Prince embraced religion in 2001, when he became a Jehovah's Witness. "I was anti-authoritarian but at the same time I was a loving tyrant," he told the Guardian. "You can't be both. I had to learn what authority was. That's what the Bible teaches. The Bible is a study guide for social interaction.

"If I go to a place where I don't feel stressed and there's no car alarms and airplanes overhead, then you understand what noise pollution is. Noise is a society that has no God, that has no glue. We can't do what we want to do all the time. If you don't have boundaries, what then?"

Prince's views on the internet, however, have not changed. He has long been a vociferous critic of those who feel they have the right to post his music or even his image online – in 2007 his lawyers instructed fansites to remove all photographs and images related to his likeness. He told the Guardian: "I'm supposed to go to the White House to talk about copyright protection. It's like the gold rush out there. Or a carjacking. There's no boundaries." Because of the problem with piracy, he said, he has no plans to record another album.

His unease about the web is not just a matter of legality for him, however, but one of aesthetics. "I personally can't stand digital music," he said. "You're getting sound in bits. It affects a different place in your brain. When you play it back, you can't feel anything. We're analogue people, not digital."

Despite the effects of the internet on his album sales, Prince remains one of pop's biggest stars. In 2007 he played 21 nights at the 20,000-capacity O2 arena in London, selling out all of them and grossing a reported $22m (£13.7m). He criticised the organisers of this weekend's Glastonbury festival, claiming the annual rumours that he is to play the festival are just an attempt to sell tickets on the back of his stardom. "They use my name to sell the festival," he said. "It's illegal. I've never spoken to anyone about doing that concert, ever."

[Edited 6/23/11 4:08am]

More in-depth version of the interview, as many of you go nuts reading the summary

http://www.guardian.co.uk...NETTXT3487

Whitnail said:

JudasSmile said:

There is an excerpt from an interview with Prince here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk...CMP=twt_fd

There was a time when Prince's idea of fun was something beyond the wildest imaginings of most – his song Gett Off talked of "23 positions in a one-night stand", while Tipper Gore was so shocked when she heard her daughter listening to Darling Nikki she founded the Parents Music Resource Center to police perceived obscenity in pop. At 53, though, the eccentric star no longer sees sex as the be all and end all of a good time.

In an exclusive interview with the Guardian's Film&Music, Prince said: "It's fun being in Islamic countries, to know there's only one religion. There's order. You wear a burqa. There's no choice. People are happy with that." When asked about the fate of those unhappy with having no choice, he replied: "There are people who are unhappy with everything. There's a dark side to everything."

Prince embraced religion in 2001, when he became a Jehovah's Witness. "I was anti-authoritarian but at the same time I was a loving tyrant," he told the Guardian. "You can't be both. I had to learn what authority was. That's what the Bible teaches. The Bible is a study guide for social interaction.

"If I go to a place where I don't feel stressed and there's no car alarms and airplanes overhead, then you understand what noise pollution is. Noise is a society that has no God, that has no glue. We can't do what we want to do all the time. If you don't have boundaries, what then?"

Prince's views on the internet, however, have not changed. He has long been a vociferous critic of those who feel they have the right to post his music or even his image online – in 2007 his lawyers instructed fansites to remove all photographs and images related to his likeness. He told the Guardian: "I'm supposed to go to the White House to talk about copyright protection. It's like the gold rush out there. Or a carjacking. There's no boundaries." Because of the problem with piracy, he said, he has no plans to record another album.

His unease about the web is not just a matter of legality for him, however, but one of aesthetics. "I personally can't stand digital music," he said. "You're getting sound in bits. It affects a different place in your brain. When you play it back, you can't feel anything. We're analogue people, not digital."

Despite the effects of the internet on his album sales, Prince remains one of pop's biggest stars. In 2007 he played 21 nights at the 20,000-capacity O2 arena in London, selling out all of them and grossing a reported $22m (£13.7m). He criticised the organisers of this weekend's Glastonbury festival, claiming the annual rumours that he is to play the festival are just an attempt to sell tickets on the back of his stardom. "They use my name to sell the festival," he said. "It's illegal. I've never spoken to anyone about doing that concert, ever."

[Edited 6/23/11 4:08am]

More in-depth version of the interview, as many of you go nuts reading the summary

http://www.guardian.co.uk...NETTXT3487

I already posted it.

Hmm...maybe we really do just get too caught up ("Maybe??!!" I hear you say )

I mentioned the article to my trainer today who's a very casual Prince fan (ie. knows some songs because his partner has a couple of albums, etc...) and he couldn't see the big deal.

His POV was that Prince was basically just saying that it would be nice to live in a place where there was no religious conflict because everyone held the same belief and followed the same rules.

When I argued that saying that any country, including Muslim countries, was a representation of that was a gross oversimplification, he just shrugged and said, "That's why he's a musician, not a politician. He should probably just stick to talking about music."

It got me thinking. I wonder what would happen if we found a journalist (probably retired) who had way too much time on their hands and got them to organise interviews with a handful of orgers. The interviews would have to be over an hour and the journalist would be deliberately guiding the interview towards getting a "headline", or at the very least, something juicy.

What would the resulting articles look like? How much would the interviewees protest that it wasn't quite what they said, or it was out of context, or it was not what they meant, or it was too hard to explain?

I certainly wouldn't be volunteering.

Definitely this seems to be one of his more notable political gaffes, and perhaps it speaks of some deeper issues, but we can't hope to analyse his intentions and motivations based on a newspaper article.

I just hope the music industry comes up with a way of releasing music in this technological climate that he's happy with, because I suspect he's been sitting on some A-grade material for some time now, waiting for the right time/format to release it.

The moment brilliant new music gets released, these interviews are quickly forgotten.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

don't c anything wrong with the interview. like it. Most geniuses think out the box.

2 b an entertainer & in the industry U don't think like every one else that is not naturally gifted like Prince. Its a gift & a curse. Prince has found inner peace in himself 2 deal with the real world that has put him in a place that most will never be.

Give him a break! He has been a superstar practically all his whole life. So of course he is going 2 go by his own rules, Because he can. He will always be misunderstood. Anyone that calls themselves a Prince fan should already know this about him. George Lopez thinks he is cool & so was the interview.

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George Lopez is a toadie on the same level as Tavis Smiley, although at least Smiley does some good stuff for the world when he's not kissing Prince's ass.

My thoughts on the full article are no different than with the summary.

Prince not recording another album, from my understanding, due to piracy: Don't care. Haven't cared in years. There has been enough of a back catalogue and bootlegs to keep me interested in him as a artist. As a person, I think he sucks.

He continues to punish his fans for the bad behavior of some. Even when I have heard projects on the evil internet, I have continued to go to the store and buy them, and in the case of the Lotusflower site, I paid my money. He punished those of us that did join for the ones that didn't. I thought it was funny that he now says he hates digital music when money of the hits he's had have been "masterpieces" due in part of digital music and the music offered on his sites was offered digitally.

The rest of article I found myself . Them using his name to sell Glastonbury. I never, ever heard that before. The BS on Islam, which he shows his complete ignorance on. The stuff about Glee and Kiss. They would have had to have his permission to perform it because they were recording it.The noise he can't escape. He's freakin' Prince. Even in the suburbs of Chicago, I barely hear car alrms or planes flying over head. WTf is he talking about? He has the means to make any reality he wants appear.

My opinion on the matter: he's committing career suicide. On purpose. He's tired of it all. I think he realizes he has hit his creative peak and simply wants to be left alone. And what better way than to continue to alienate those who have supported you?

I figure he's going to move to Abu Dhabi or somewhere far away from the states.

And for those who would defend him even as he is looking you in the eye and stabbing you in the back, if we are misinterpreting what he is saying, then he needs to stop the double speak and talk to us like the adult he is. I have a feeling though, that there is nothing he could say that some of you would have a problem with.

Prince was talking about closing minds as far back as purple rain. His words have always been suspect.

NuPwrSoul said:

Best line from the interview:

"I don't want to get up on a soapbox. My view of the world, you can debate that for ever. But I'm a musician. That's what I do. And I also am music. Come to the show for that."

Thank God, he/they put in this disclaimer

Tremolina said:

NuPwrSoul said:

Best line from the interview:

"I don't want to get up on a soapbox. My view of the world, you can debate that for ever. But I'm a musician. That's what I do. And I also am music. Come to the show for that."

Thank God, he/they put in this disclaimer

AhPook said:

Prince was talking about closing minds as far back as purple rain. His words have always been suspect.

I go back a little further, start with the Controversy album and work your way on up lol

Ok now that I've read the whole thing...

Initial reaction!

Then after reading it I was more like

Vendetta1 said:

And for those who would defend him even as he is looking you in the eye and stabbing you in the back, if we are misinterpreting what he is saying, then he needs to stop the double speak and talk to us like the adult he is. I have a feeling though, that there is nothing he could say that some of you would have a problem with.

my back is seared with scars from the stabbings of much more powerful men than prince.

petty gripes over prince's struggle with the english language make me feel sad for 'those who', after how many years? still dont realise what he's really saying.

should a poet change the way they communicate just because his readers dont understand poetry?

i think not. but thats just my opinion.

pepper7 said:

Ironically if u look at the comments on the guardian website they are mainly positive. Maybe Prince does know what he's doing afterall...

Or maybe they just don't give a fuck what the hell he says.

thisisit said:

Vendetta1 said:

And for those who would defend him even as he is looking you in the eye and stabbing you in the back, if we are misinterpreting what he is saying, then he needs to stop the double speak and talk to us like the adult he is. I have a feeling though, that there is nothing he could say that some of you would have a problem with.

my back is seared with scars from the stabbings of much more powerful men than prince.

petty gripes over prince's struggle with the english language make me feel sad for 'those who', after how many years? still dont realise what he's really saying.

should a poet change the way they communicate just because his readers dont understand poetry?

i think not. but thats just my opinion.

Wow this is just ridiculous.

Petty gripe? It ain't that deep. When prince wants to be understood and not misunderstood, he speaks clear as a bell. When he doen'ts, he speaks in Princespeak. Poetry to you, total BS to some. Maybe it was cool and deep when I was 15 years old but i'm over 40 now and don't have time to waste trying to figure out what someone is trying to say/saying anymore.

Mine is also an opinion. Guess you missed that part.

Tremolina said:

NuPwrSoul said:

Best line from the interview:

"I don't want to get up on a soapbox. My view of the world, you can debate that for ever. But I'm a musician. That's what I do. And I also am music. Come to the show for that."

Thank God, he/they put in this disclaimer

Prince just isn't that sophisticated. That's all that's happening here.

It turns out his core fans love parts of his catalog, but probably wouldn't want to be the guys buddy, and show for lycra together.

As for the Islam topic - I almost wonder if this possibly maybe might have something to do with a loan. A Michael Jackson style loan from a Saudi Prince. Or maybe he just wanted to say something positive and didn't have a fully formed thought he was able to articulate.

Vendetta1 said:

Tremolina said:

Thank God, he/they put in this disclaimer

It sounds like saying: "Hey man, if you really give a toss about what I have to say, YOU are the one who is crazy! I may be here on the front page trying to stir up shit but don't blame me because I'm just a musican.

Tho' I am THE ARTIST! don't you forget about it...."

NouveauDance said:

Tremolina said:

Is this Prince's way of boosting ticket sales for his European shows this summer?

I actually think it is. Prince has always been one to try and get a reaction, whether it's good or bad, I'm sure he knows his silly opinions will cause a stir, even if it's only amongst the patrons of this and other fans sites (cause god knows no one else cares!)