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PrintableHandclapsfingasnapz said: lovebizzare said: muleFunk said: Ahh! The good ole days ! This was when Prince was in the Zone. Summer of 84, 2 number 1 singles, 3 number 1 on the R & B charts.Prince played on all the radio stations. RADIO still mattered ! 19 years ago wha ??? I miss dem days *gettin all teary eyed* (little kid voice) tell me 'bout the old days...  well, prince was very popular then and when you told people you liked Prince you didn't get laughed at, as mulefunk said, radio still matered, rap wasn't about "bling bling" and killin' people, mtv actually showed stuff that had to do with music, fashion was god-awful(lol), jheri curls were cool-I can't go on.
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ian said: Pepina said: I'm obsessed with it at the moment and must know any and all information regarding it!
 Prince doesn't smoke does he? So what's that "all I got is two cigarettes, and this broken heart of mine" shit all about? Another of young Prince's bullshit fictional melodrama (e.g. Another Lonely Xmas) lyrics... I'm glad he stopped that. I hate this song, and Wendy & Lisa's discordant out-of-tune wailing in the chorus doesn't improve matters.  Uh, are you insane? Personally . I think we are all Boring with No Lives cause all we do is talk about Prince,Criticize and Gossip. I need a Horny Man is what I Need and probably so do most of yas. We are Sexually Frustrated what we R... Amen..!!! - zelaire | |
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Love this song.
As far as 17 days goes, this is possibly a reference from the bible (fits in with the rain theme): Noah was 600 years, 2 months, and 17 days old when the flood began. Noah was on the ark for 1 year and 17 days. The cigaretter smoking fits in with the lyrics being written for Vanity... Life it ain't real funky unless you got that orgPop. | |
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17 Days on the 12" and Hits CD are edits.. The real version is 12 minutes long.
Awesome song, as were all the recordings done at that time. T | |
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TheMEssage said:[quote]17 Days on the 12" and Hits CD are edits.. The real version is 12 minutes long.
Where can a person find a decent-sounding CD copy of the 12 minute version? | |
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terrencetuppins said:[quote] TheMEssage said: 17 Days on the 12" and Hits CD are edits.. The real version is 12 minutes long.
Where can a person find a decent-sounding CD copy of the 12 minute version? listens closely... :O   I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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terrencetuppins said:[quote] TheMEssage said: 17 Days on the 12" and Hits CD are edits.. The real version is 12 minutes long.
me want, me want!!! | |
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17Days was my license plate for about 5 years. Now I have an ordinary license plate. | |
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terrencetuppins said:[quote] TheMEssage said: 17 Days on the 12" and Hits CD are edits.. The real version is 12 minutes long.
nope, the extended version is 13 minutes and 20 seconds long... & it sure KICKS ASS! | |
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JonSnow said: i know that Living Color did a cover of it, but i've never heard it...
So was 17 Days never considered for inclusion on the PR album? A question I've always had.. the booklet for The Hits says that When Doves Cry was recorded late for PR, when the album was "already finished". So what song did it replace? I've always thought that it was 17 Days, but I guess not...? On 7 November 1983 a test perssing was made of Purple Rain containing: Let's Go Crazy The Beautiful Ones Computer Blue Darling Nikki Wednesday Purple Rain I Would Die 4 U Baby I'm A Star Father's Song On 29 February 1984 Prince compiled the album for Apollonia 6 called: Take Me With U. This album included: Take Me With U (reclaimed for himself) Macic Monday (reclamied and gave it to the Bangels) and The Glamorous Life Next Time Wipe The Lipstick Off Your Collar Oliver's House Were also removed from the album and given to Sheila. E. 23 March a new Purple Rain was assembled including all songs in the same order as now, ommitting "Take Me With U". "Computer Blue" was longer (7:45) 14 April he shortened "Computer Blue" and cut a small piece from "Let's Go Crazy" to make space for "Take Me With U". Now the album was finished and ready to be mastered. Just so you know!!! Spanjeganger | |
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talk2thejay said:[quote] terrencetuppins said: TheMEssage said: 17 Days on the 12" and Hits CD are edits.. The real version is 12 minutes long.
nope, the extended version is 13 minutes and 20 seconds long... & it sure KICKS ASS! there is no oficial long version.That's just a fanmade version.looping it over and over  |
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NuPwrSoul said: ian said: Wendy & Lisa's discordant out-of-tune wailing in the chorus
 They did that a lot didn't they?They did indeed! This is why I scratch my head when fans here wax lyrical about how great the Revolution were... they weren't that great guys, they just happened to be around when Prince was doing some great music. | |
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FutureShock said: ian said: I hate this song, and Wendy & Lisa's discordant out-of-tune wailing in the chorus doesn't improve matters. I hope that was a joke. Prince is well known for writing dissonant chord structures. The use of dissonant chords is a classic Prince signature, especially from those days. I'm quite sure Wendy & Lisa were singing the notes exactly the way Prince wanted them to sing it. Besides that, how could you NOT like that bass line??? Newsflash - not everyone likes the same music. I don't like it. ,and I explained why. It's bloody dreadful. | |
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ian said: Newsflash - not everyone likes the same music. Precisely, and nor should they!! 
I LOVE 17 Days... what is wrong with you Ian?! 
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ian said: FutureShock said: ian said: I hate this song, and Wendy & Lisa's discordant out-of-tune wailing in the chorus doesn't improve matters. I hope that was a joke. Prince is well known for writing dissonant chord structures. The use of dissonant chords is a classic Prince signature, especially from those days. I'm quite sure Wendy & Lisa were singing the notes exactly the way Prince wanted them to sing it. Besides that, how could you NOT like that bass line??? Newsflash - not everyone likes the same music. I don't like it. ,and I explained why. It's bloody dreadful. Guys, I think we should start mobilize and start a coup against Ian, to make him step down as the prince.org moderator! We can not tolerate this behavior! | |
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Marrk said: there is no oficial long version.That's just a fanmade version.looping it over and over yeah, u must b sleeping alllrigghht, cuz I wasn´t talking about an official release... | |
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abierman said: ian said: FutureShock said: ian said: I hate this song, and Wendy & Lisa's discordant out-of-tune wailing in the chorus doesn't improve matters. I hope that was a joke. Prince is well known for writing dissonant chord structures. The use of dissonant chords is a classic Prince signature, especially from those days. I'm quite sure Wendy & Lisa were singing the notes exactly the way Prince wanted them to sing it. Besides that, how could you NOT like that bass line??? Newsflash - not everyone likes the same music. I don't like it. ,and I explained why. It's bloody dreadful. Guys, I think we should start mobilize and start a coup against Ian, to make him step down as the prince.org moderator! We can not tolerate this behavior!
I will fight each and every one of you! Bring it on! | |
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JonSnow said: i know that Living Color did a cover of it, but i've never heard it...
I saw Living Colour live in 1993 and they played it. It took me about 30 seconds to recognise it. I turned to my mate and said "they're playing Prince". Corey even threw in an obligatory "aawwaah" at the end. | |
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FutureShock said: ian said: I hate this song, and Wendy & Lisa's discordant out-of-tune wailing in the chorus doesn't improve matters. I hope that was a joke. Prince is well known for writing dissonant chord structures. The use of dissonant chords is a classic Prince signature, especially from those days. I'm quite sure Wendy & Lisa were singing the notes exactly the way Prince wanted them to sing it. bingo. Some of those W&L harmonies were what made Revolution-era Prince. Regardless of whether we should praise Prince only or the whole band (let me know, Ian, how you are so sure Wendy & Lisa had no positive part to play in the creative mix), those are some sparkling moments. I can't imagine songs like Crystal Ball and Play in the Sunshine without Wendy and Lisa's vocal contributions- dissonant but they elevate the songs to a higher plane. Their voices add that extra bit of tang to Prince's cocktail. [This message was edited Mon Feb 10 4:23:05 PST 2003 by fairmoan] | |
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fairmoan said: FutureShock said: ian said: I hate this song, and Wendy & Lisa's discordant out-of-tune wailing in the chorus doesn't improve matters. I hope that was a joke. Prince is well known for writing dissonant chord structures. The use of dissonant chords is a classic Prince signature, especially from those days. I'm quite sure Wendy & Lisa were singing the notes exactly the way Prince wanted them to sing it. bingo. Some of those W&L harmonies were what made Revolution-era Prince. Regardless of whether we should praise Prince only or the whole band (let me know, Ian, how you are so sure Wendy & Lisa had no positive part to play in the creative mix), those are some sparkling moments. I can't imagine songs like Crystal Ball and Play in the Sunshine without Wendy and Lisa's vocal contributions- dissonant but they elevate the songs to a higher plane. Their voices add that extra bit of tang to Prince's cocktail. [This message was edited Mon Feb 10 4:23:05 PST 2003 by fairmoan] I know no such thing. All I really know about it is that I don't like it, I think it is fucking dreadful... Prince fans often have no objectivity when it comes to his music and will worship any old piece of shit he puts out, I'm not one of those people. I felt W&L's vocal "contributions" ruined some good songs. Just opinion, don't wet yourself. "17 Days" was a mediocre throwaway song at best with a dismally unconvincing chorus, irritatingly melodramatic lyrics, and a miserable rhythm section. In my opinion. To my ears... if you got one of those old cheap Bontempi toy keyboards from the 80s (you know, the ones with the cheesy "Bossa-nova" loop button, and the "Salsa" button etc) and if it had a "Prince" button, pressing it would give you a cheesy MIDI version of 17 Days. That song for me symbolises everything that bad and unfunky with the Revolution and specifically W&L. | |
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ian said: lovebizzare said: Damitt Ian! Do you like anything by prince? As or the ciggarette line, this song was supposed to be on the Apollonia6 album, sung by Brenda, who smoked. In the Vanity6 vinyl version, there's even a picture o her with a ciggarette in her mouth. Well let Brenda sing it then. Prince's version was dreadful I like lots of Prince's songs, but unlike some fans I don't think his music is above reproach.
I just seem to hate lots of songs that other fans like - e.g. "God", "Another Lonely Xmas", "Free", and "17 Days". It's all cheesy schmaltz IMO. | |
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stymie said: ian said: lovebizzare said: Damitt Ian! Do you like anything by prince? As or the ciggarette line, this song was supposed to be on the Apollonia6 album, sung by Brenda, who smoked. In the Vanity6 vinyl version, there's even a picture o her with a ciggarette in her mouth. Well let Brenda sing it then. Prince's version was dreadful I like lots of Prince's songs, but unlike some fans I don't think his music is above reproach.
I just seem to hate lots of songs that other fans like - e.g. "God", "Another Lonely Xmas", "Free", and "17 Days". It's all cheesy schmaltz IMO. Nah I hate it too. Especially the version on the "Prince & The Revolution Live" video (Syracuse) - it makes me violently ill. | |
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Marrk said:[quote] talk2thejay said: terrencetuppins said: TheMEssage said: 17 Days on the 12" and Hits CD are edits.. The real version is 12 minutes long.
nope, the extended version is 13 minutes and 20 seconds long... & it sure KICKS ASS! there is no oficial long version.That's just a fanmade version.looping it over and over eww, like that one version of "sexy dancer" with the talkin on it...  | |
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As John Bream said:
"17 Days is Prince's best single in search of an album."  RIAA
'nuff said. "So strange that no one stayed at the end of the Parade..." - Wendy & Lisa's "Song About" on their 1987 self-titled album.
RIAA
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ian said: fairmoan said: FutureShock said: ian said: I hate this song, and Wendy & Lisa's discordant out-of-tune wailing in the chorus doesn't improve matters. I hope that was a joke. Prince is well known for writing dissonant chord structures. The use of dissonant chords is a classic Prince signature, especially from those days. I'm quite sure Wendy & Lisa were singing the notes exactly the way Prince wanted them to sing it. bingo. Some of those W&L harmonies were what made Revolution-era Prince. Regardless of whether we should praise Prince only or the whole band (let me know, Ian, how you are so sure Wendy & Lisa had no positive part to play in the creative mix), those are some sparkling moments. I can't imagine songs like Crystal Ball and Play in the Sunshine without Wendy and Lisa's vocal contributions- dissonant but they elevate the songs to a higher plane. Their voices add that extra bit of tang to Prince's cocktail. [This message was edited Mon Feb 10 4:23:05 PST 2003 by fairmoan] I know no such thing. All I really know about it is that I don't like it, I think it is fucking dreadful... Prince fans often have no objectivity when it comes to his music and will worship any old piece of shit he puts out, I'm not one of those people. I felt W&L's vocal "contributions" ruined some good songs. Just opinion, don't wet yourself. "17 Days" was a mediocre throwaway song at best with a dismally unconvincing chorus, irritatingly melodramatic lyrics, and a miserable rhythm section. In my opinion. To my ears... if you got one of those old cheap Bontempi toy keyboards from the 80s (you know, the ones with the cheesy "Bossa-nova" loop button, and the "Salsa" button etc) and if it had a "Prince" button, pressing it would give you a cheesy MIDI version of 17 Days. That song for me symbolises everything that bad and unfunky with the Revolution and specifically W&L. That is such bullshit, and a cop-out to boot. So whatever you like is the "objective view", is it? I don't think there are many fans out there who unequivocally endorse everything Prince does. But there are plenty who would disagree with your view on The Revolution, and plenty again who would disagree vehemently with your opinion on Emancipation (for example). I would say Prince has you under a trance if Emancipation is among your favourite albums. Nevertheless you are certainly in the minority when it comes to your views on the Revolution, and that alone should warn you against using the word "objectivity". I agree to a certain extent with what you are saying about "17 Days", but I find it mind-boggling that a Prince fan can dismiss all of his work with the Revolution. | |
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17 Days is just perfect pop. | |
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Marrk said:[quote] talk2thejay said: terrencetuppins said: TheMEssage said: 17 Days on the 12" and Hits CD are edits.. The real version is 12 minutes long.
nope, the extended version is 13 minutes and 20 seconds long... & it sure KICKS ASS! there is no oficial long version.That's just a fanmade version.looping it over and over Umm.. Wrong. It's the unedited version of the song. Trust me. | |
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Spanjeganger said: JonSnow said: i know that Living Color did a cover of it, but i've never heard it...
So was 17 Days never considered for inclusion on the PR album? A question I've always had.. the booklet for The Hits says that When Doves Cry was recorded late for PR, when the album was "already finished". So what song did it replace? I've always thought that it was 17 Days, but I guess not...? On 7 November 1983 a test perssing was made of Purple Rain containing: Let's Go Crazy The Beautiful Ones Computer Blue Darling Nikki Wednesday Purple Rain I Would Die 4 U Baby I'm A Star Father's Song On 29 February 1984 Prince compiled the album for Apollonia 6 called: Take Me With U. This album included: Take Me With U (reclaimed for himself) Macic Monday (reclamied and gave it to the Bangels) and The Glamorous Life Next Time Wipe The Lipstick Off Your Collar Oliver's House Were also removed from the album and given to Sheila. E. 23 March a new Purple Rain was assembled including all songs in the same order as now, ommitting "Take Me With U". "Computer Blue" was longer (7:45) 14 April he shortened "Computer Blue" and cut a small piece from "Let's Go Crazy" to make space for "Take Me With U". Now the album was finished and ready to be mastered. Just so you know!!! Spanjeganger There were no "test pressings" as said here.. There were tapes of compiled songs. The one stated as "for an Apollonia 6 record" or whatever was actually a cassette given to Apollonia by Prince when she told him she couldn't sleep at night. So he made her a tape of the songs listed above (along with others like "A Million Miles" and "Flesh And Blood") so she could relax at night and sleep... Prince's version of "The Glamorous Life" is very strange sounding as it's VERY stripped sown and has him singing in falsetto. Pretty different once you hear that after hearing the final Shiela E version for so long. Basically just sax, a drum machine, and Prince singing the lyrics... | |
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terrencetuppins said:[quote] TheMEssage said: 17 Days on the 12" and Hits CD are edits.. The real version is 12 minutes long.
Where can a person find a decent-sounding CD copy of the 12 minute version? It's not circulating.. And it ISN'T the Looptopia version, it's the real thing as Prince originally recorded it. | |
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