Genesia said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Being a Vegetarian have stopped the aging process 4 Prince...With me its no beef or pork 4 over a decade....Cutting down drastically on meat. But its amazing on the positivity that comes with less meat intake....One day it will happen soon....But it is very expensive 2 eat healthy. But my New Years resolution is 2 eat less meat & more wholefoods...

I fixed it for you.

fixed it back........

EleanorK said:

I could never be a vegeterian or vegan. I can't imagine my life without a bloody steak or St. Andre. No sir.

Perhaps you should see an animal screaming for it's life when it's throat is cut, and maybe dropped in some boiling water!

Animal abuse...The choice that he took to be a vegetarian, or vegan, is all over the internet.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS SEARCH AND SEE THE ABUSE THAT TAKES PLACE FOR ANIMALS THAT END UP IN THE FROZEN SECTION IN YOUR STORE!

ANIMALS IN ARE TERRIBLY ABUSED. YOU JUST HAVE TO LOOK INTO WHAT IS HAPPENING, INTO YOUR SOUL, AND HOPEFULLY, YOU, WILL AGREE IT ISN'T RIGHT!

If eating vegetables stopped prince from looking old, then your saying if he ate meat he would look older than he is? My tita is a vegetarian and she and my umma are only a year apart. She looks no younger even though she has a healthier diet. Maybe it has to do with them both being asian, but I think Prince naturally looks younger than most white people because black people just look young sometimes.

It is interesting that coming from a SDA and its healthy lifestyle might shed light on his diet/health choices. I can make mean meals from spagetti to meatless loaf, all without using fake meat, animal fat, or dairy using nuts, spices, and legumes. You should know what you are doing and get a better than fair bill of health.

mzsadii said:

It is interesting that coming from a SDA and its healthy lifestyle might shed light on his diet/health choices. I can make mean meals from spagetti to meatless loaf, all without using fake meat, animal fat, or dairy using nuts, spices, and legumes. You should know what you are doing and get a better than fair bill of health.

^^^ I wish you would share some good meatless recipes with me that actually have some flavor. I have tried many and they are so dull, dry, and heavy despite all the seasonings that I just can't eat them. How, for instance, do you do an actual juicy, tasty meatless loaf?!! All the recipes I have tried are simply awful and leave me craving the real thing...

alovesupreme said:

I have been a vegetarian a total of 22 years - a vegan for 10 years, a vegetarian for 12 years. I became a vegetarian for health reasons. I suffered from allergies and stomach/colon problems in my teens. I can say a healthier lifestyle does make a difference. I changed my diet in my early 20s and all my health issues stopped. I am very conscious about what I put in my body, including medication and over the counter drugs, I have used herbal formulas for 22 years.

I don't look my age at all. I don't drink alcohol that often but when I do order a drink or glass of wine, I am often asked for ID (I'm 45 yrs old).

My husband and my children are not vegetarians. My children were vegetarians until they chose not to be. I gave them that option. They couldn't wait to eat meat. But now that they have tasted both worlds, they have primarily gone back to a vegetarian diet. My husband eats a lot of meatless dishes and enjoys them more than eating meat.

It is a lifestyle change that some may have difficulty with, it is not easy. I could not imagine eating meat again, but that is my choice. I don't preach to anyone but I do inform people about living healthier.

KoolEaze said:

I also read that soy was bad for men, so I stopped eating soy products, and there´s not that much left when you need protein and don´t want to eat soy products.

Much of the anti-soya, dairy industry funded, "science" has been debunked, there seems no reason that it can't be eaten in moderation no matter your sex, the isoflavones particularly seem beneficial.

There is also quite a myth regarding protein intake, you'd be surprised how easily your needs are met with various foods. Plant based foods high in protein include nuts, seeds, beans, lentils (and other legumes) while the pseudograin Quinoa has a complete amino acid profile.

Militant said:

Most dairy cows are kept pregnant every year via insemination in order to increase the milk flow. Then, the calves are killed for veal, and when the cow naturally begins to produce less milk, which is generally only part-way through their natural lifespan, that is when they are killed. It's disgusting, immoral and wrong.

Yes the male calves are rendered a useless by product of the cows being kept in perpetual pregnancy so that humans can take the milk. Killed instantly if they're lucky, kept in hideous, restricted circumstances to produce soft, tender veal if not.

The same applies to the chicken industry, in that male chicks are dispatched on hatching as they can't produce eggs. Gassed if they're lucky, but more commonly thrown alive into a grinding machine.

The complete Vegetarian Times interview Prince gave in 1997: http://findarticles.com/p..._19945123/

colorblu said:

Whole grains, vegetables and fruit in season are our friends

Whole grain brown rice contains every mineral and vitamin available to us. It's natures perfect food, by itself, it is the seed and the fruit. It can be kept for ages if stored properly. Stock up now

True, it takes a lot of time and preparation to utilize the 'good' food that surrounds us, but for health and longevity, it is the way to go.

If the same amount of acres were used to grow grain rather than be used as land to graze animals, before their killing, there would be no hunger in our world.

True, in some nothern climates, years ago, man was forced to eat meat in order to survive. But today, that is no longer true, and most people have a choice.

When circumstances arise on a social level, someone might be offered 'meat.' When we encompass the totality of the universe, for the purpose of being 'in unity' when we are offered a food we normally choose not to eat, I think it's okay to partake. The purpose overrides the kind of food we are ingesting. We can transmute the source of food into a love for something that means more like: love 4oneanother, respect for others beliefs and a willingness to let something larger than us guide us.

Opposites attract. Once we eliminate the very 'yang' food that we find in meat the less likely we will be attracted to the "yin" substances like, sugar, alcohol and drugs. I stopped eating red meat more than 30 years ago. I could still loose a few pounds and only a bit more of discipline would fix just that

thank you for articulating that... combining brown rice and beans has been a key to me finding the balance. (white rice just makes me hungry). goodbye sugar cravings! add some gomasio, olive oil, greens. mmm the taste of balance -- not expensive either.

i only talk about it if asked. basically my reason is, i feel better when i can live a lovely day without having had to kill an animal. next i'd like to only eat plants that arent killed by harvesting them, like those poor beheaded lettuces... would also love to be a breatharian some day...

me think eating animal flesh is not the wisest or most compassionate way to obtain nutrition. maybe one of the easiest, requiring the least discernment, though. and yes, in some cases the only food in sight. but as long as i have a choice, i choose to relearn how to combine simple whole foods to provide complete nutrition. there are many ways to do anything, and only some of them work well -- so please read a book or something or ask a longtime vegan about how to do it right. it's an art.

that vegan diet is probably part of prince's glowing appearance. as hardworking as he is, i think he also gets adequate rest. i think his reasons were articulated on the inside of that raveun2thejoyfantastic record

Dsoul said:

The complete Vegetarian Times interview Prince gave in 1997: http://findarticles.com/p..._19945123/

cool. sounds like Mayte was his main reason for going vegan. Has she always been vegan? If so, there's another convincing reason, as far as appearances and auras go...

I agree. Even though I eat meat, I acknowledge that it has an aging effect.

It's important for vegetarians to exercise and remain strong, supplement

protein, because as you said, weight can be lost.

I'm a vegetarian. Have been since the age of 19. I'm now 33. A few things to keep in mind:

1. Vegetarianism is not a religion. People are vegetarian for different reasons (ethical, economic, environmental, religious, etc.).
2. There's not necessarily a direct link between vegetarianism and good health. You can be a vegetarian and still eat badly (e.g. eat a lot of sugar/fats). But...
3. ...being a vegetarian is apparently associated with healthy lifestyle habits such as not smoking, meditating, exercising, drinking reasonably, etc., i.e. if you're a vegetarian, there's a higher probability that you're doing things that are good for your health. Of course, there will always be a lot of exceptions.

Speaking as a vegetarian for some 17 years I can say that since I changed I have very rarely been sixk or ill from food poisioning etc. In the 17 yrs I think I was ill once I normally just get the odd cold or cough. As regards to converting people I have never tried to do this but I have met very few people who just accept I am a veggie without making some comment or remark about how great meat is. One thing i hate though is people claiming to be a vegetarian and not being one. Anyone who eats fish, white meat, red meat is a carnivore to me and NOT vegetarian.

vitriol said:

I could never be a vegetarian. I love the pleasures of the meat as much as the pleasures of the flesh.

Plus, man is omnivorous by nature. I don't think it's healthy (for the body and the mind) to eat just plants.

We're no sheep.

I dont think we are omnivorous by nature as we are not designed to either kill an animal or eat it without tools. Compare us to a dog or a cat or a bear who are built for catching their prey then killing it and eating it raw. Meat eaters have it nicely packaged with the fat trimmed off and cooked till all the bacteria etc is dead then flavoured and garnished, not exaclty natural!

people should eat more veggies & much less meat but to go without meat cannot be natural or healthy?

it wasn't that long ago that prince looked malnourished, skinny, emaciated & ill.. someone even said he was like a corpse. (coffin pic comes to mind)

i blame his vegetarian diet, whatever he was eating was not working, but look at him recently! WOW! he looks all buffed out, hench ... he's jumping about, looks happy & got loads of energy!

he must be bingeing out on protein shakes, maybe tucking in2 steak or steroids? a few beans & nuts alone won't produce those results... he could be an genuine ice road trucker with his new brawn

DoffieParker said:

he must be bingeing out on protein shakes, maybe tucking in2 steak or steroids? a few beans & nuts alone won't produce those results...

No. You realize there are plenty of vegan bodybuilders out there? And they aren't using steroids, and they aren't at a competitive disadvantage, many of them regularly defeat their meat-eating counterparts in competition.

The notion that being vegetarian or vegan means you must be malnourished or emaciated or too thin or any of that shit, is a complete MYTH.

dirtymalcs - I have had the same experience. Prior to becoming vegetarian, I'd get colds/sicknesses 2 or 3 times a year at least. These days, it's rare. I got one cold in 2010 that only lasted a few days. I didn't get sick ONCE in 2009 despite travelling a lot and being under the most stress I've ever faced.

The reason for this is because eating meat weakens the human immune system. This is largely due to the antibiotics injected into the animals, and the fact that the more meat you eat, the more uric acid is produced in order to digest it, which weakens your kidneys and provides a perfect ecosystem for bacteria (which thrive in acidic environments).

The one time I got a cold in 2010, it went all around my family. The vegetarians in my family were able to fight it off completely in 2-3 days. The meat eaters were out of action for an entire week or longer.

Exactly...and I am one of those vegan bodybuilders (amateur and slim)...and what's more I'm a raw foodist also (to freak some out) for about 1 year now...oh, and I fast...feel better than when I was 20, for real...testosterone is at a high level...no aches or pains...

The orgers are a well informed bunch and know to stay away from soy...but guys (males) did you know flaxseed /oil is even higher than soy for estrogenic activity?

In your 30's your body changes, gross food has less meaning for me, concentrated nutrients are the way to go.

I'm sure I read on here recently that Prince had a burger with someone, didn't sound like a vegeburger either.

[Edited 3/12/11 15:14pm]

UmustB said:

EleanorK said:

I could never be a vegeterian or vegan. I can't imagine my life without a bloody steak or St. Andre. No sir.

Perhaps you should see an animal screaming for it's life when it's throat is cut, and maybe dropped in some boiling water!

Yeah. Even after that I still prefer my meat bloody and a good baked brie.

vitriol said:

Dewrede said:

it's barbaric and sick

meat is murder

No, it's just Nature.

So, I'm sorry to inform you that most walking things on Earth are assasins.

Rape of human females by human males and murder of rival human beings are natural behaviors as well, should we legalize them?

On the other hand using a heater or a car is highly unnatural, would u be ready to give up these tools?

The only acceptable argument against vegetarism is personal ethics, i.e. "my pleasure at eating meat is more important to me than the death and suffering of the creatures i eat". I can accept that because everybody is free to believe in his/her own ethical values system, but the "natural" thing makes no sense when human beings already have given up so many "natural" behaviors.

Maytiana said:

I know vegetarians that look old and are fat. Sometimes genetics play a role in how good you look and how you handle stress does, too. I think Prince is just young looking because of make-up and how he wears his hair.

I think you have to be careful about your diet-loads of people who become vegetarian put on weight coz they end up eatting dairy-piecies of meat are actually relativelynlow in fat. It is meat related products that are fatty-loke pies. If you eat meat properly it is probably calorifically better and higher in protein. I went vegetarian for 11mths once and put on a stone-u really need to plan it

Maytiana said:

I know vegetarians that look old and are fat. Sometimes genetics play a role in how good you look and how you handle stress does, too. I think Prince is just young looking because of make-up and how he wears his hair.

????? I think it is that he's not a boozer and is energetic-makeup if anything ages you when you are Princes age