Spinlight said:

pald1 said:

Scepticism is a virtue, and quite necessary for human survival actually.

The funniest thing about this entire deal is that there is not one single mention that the song is being released ANYWHERE. Not even in Dr. F's post. The wording is a little deceptive, but he's simply saying the band is about to unleash the song during their live shows and that people should go to the live shows wherever they end up being.

There is no actual release of any kind being mentioned yet all these chickenheads bobbing on P's dick think they are having religious experiences cuz Prince is so kind and loving.

Youizfastbecominmyfaveposteronthizcrazyassedsite.

Spinlight ...tellin' it like it iz.

WetDream said:

OMG! Xtra Loveable!??? Please, Prince, RELEASE IT!

I would LOVE for that to be released!!!!!!

Prediction: He'll sing maybe one actual verse of the song, then it'll just be an extended band jam for the rest of it.

Lately he can't even be arsed to learn his own lyrics, it seems. I'm pretty sure this will be no exception.

On another note, I feel kind of bad for 'Dr. Funkenberry' being Prince's only internet outlet.

Prince gives him 'non-news' and he continues to post it as if it's real news. Most of it never even materializes.

I'm sure I'd do the same thing if I was in his position, but Prince is the worst source for information about Prince these days.

I also find it interesting that for all of Prince's disparaging comments about the internet, he still 'leaks' information to it whenever he feels he's needing attention for one project or another.

I'd love to hear 'Extra Loveable,' but at this point I'm not really getting my hopes up.

I'm going to do something totally out of left field. I'm going to wait to hear it to pass judgement on it! Personally I don't care if Prince releases or reworks old material because I've been listening to some of these tracks since 1989. I'd rather hear the new stuff he's worked on that's not circulating(i.e. The Divine) The excitement for older stuff,released as is or reworked is just for the collector in me.

2freaky4church1 said:

I hope none of you will miss the rape scene in the song? We want him to leave that out because it is am immoral idea. We agree with that, right? And don't give me the Eminem excuse. Prince actually means it. Believe me, I feel it...

Even without the rape part...the whole damn song is still quite sexual and nowhere near in the justifiable "sanctity of marriage" kind of way. So I just want to see how in the hell this gets pulled off. That is of course, IF it ever does.

And what's the Eminem excuse...you mentioned?

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

2freaky4church1 said:

I hope none of you will miss the rape scene in the song? We want him to leave that out because it is am immoral idea. We agree with that, right? And don't give me the Eminem excuse. Prince actually means it. Believe me, I feel it...

Even without the rape part...the whole damn song is still quite sexual and nowhere near in the justifiable "sanctity of marriage" kind of way. So I just want to see how in the hell this gets pulled off. That is of course, IF it ever does.

And what's the Eminem excuse...you mentioned?

very simple, he'll just turn it into a 25 minute jazzy funk jam with solo's by him, ranato,

john blackwell and ida. then he'll sing 1 or 2 lines, at most, before he tells the crowd to

sing along with shelby on the repeated punch line "extraloveable", which will from that

point on be the only lyric.

so basically it'll be a 'new' funked up jazzfest with the chant "extraloveable"

anything more would be nice, but that's all i'm expecting at this point. can't believe that

some people might actually think he'll do it as we know it. out of all of his outtakes this

is one that would seem least likely to ever make an appearance, anywhere. all of them

lyrics are a no go zone for prince at this point.

he's just bummed that someone recorded a cover and it's actually pretty darn good too.

so now he's in his "i'll take my song back, thank you very much, and while i'm at it, i'll

show you how real musicians do it and let you hear how the song was meant to sound"

all the while completely ignoring the way the song was truly meant to sound, which is

the way he recorded it almost 30 years ago.

IstenSzek said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Even without the rape part...the whole damn song is still quite sexual and nowhere near in the justifiable "sanctity of marriage" kind of way. So I just want to see how in the hell this gets pulled off. That is of course, IF it ever does.

And what's the Eminem excuse...you mentioned?

very simple, he'll just turn it into a 25 minute jazzy funk jam with solo's by him, ranato,

john blackwell and ida. then he'll sing 1 or 2 lines, at most, before he tells the crowd to

sing along with shelby on the repeated punch line "extraloveable", which will from that

point on be the only lyric.

so basically it'll be a 'new' funked up jazzfest with the chant "extraloveable"

anything more would be nice, but that's all i'm expecting at this point. can't believe that

some people might actually think he'll do it as we know it. out of all of his outtakes this

is one that would seem least likely to ever make an appearance, anywhere. all of them

lyrics are a no go zone for prince at this point.

he's just bummed that someone recorded a cover and it's actually pretty darn good too.

so now he's in his "i'll take my song back, thank you very much, and while i'm at it, i'll

show you how real musicians do it and let you hear how the song was meant to sound"

all the while completely ignoring the way the song was truly meant to sound, which is

the way he recorded it almost 30 years ago.

That's how I see it too.

IstenSzek said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Even without the rape part...the whole damn song is still quite sexual and nowhere near in the justifiable "sanctity of marriage" kind of way. So I just want to see how in the hell this gets pulled off. That is of course, IF it ever does.

And what's the Eminem excuse...you mentioned?

very simple, he'll just turn it into a 25 minute jazzy funk jam with solo's by him, ranato,

john blackwell and ida. then he'll sing 1 or 2 lines, at most, before he tells the crowd to

sing along with shelby on the repeated punch line "extraloveable", which will from that

point on be the only lyric.

so basically it'll be a 'new' funked up jazzfest with the chant "extraloveable"

anything more would be nice, but that's all i'm expecting at this point. can't believe that

some people might actually think he'll do it as we know it. out of all of his outtakes this

is one that would seem least likely to ever make an appearance, anywhere. all of them

lyrics are a no go zone for prince at this point.

he's just bummed that someone recorded a cover and it's actually pretty darn good too.

so now he's in his "i'll take my song back, thank you very much, and while i'm at it, i'll

show you how real musicians do it and let you hear how the song was meant to sound"

all the while completely ignoring the way the song was truly meant to sound, which is

the way he recorded it almost 30 years ago.

Exactly.

I´m still optimistic.

I also believe Prince was behind the 2010 bootleg release of ´Box Of Chocolates´

His interests in unreleased/rare songs is returning imo.

He has been playing these songs the last 2years:

- In a Large Room With No Light

- All Day, All Night

- Purple Music

- Cloreen Bacon Skin

IstenSzek said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Even without the rape part...the whole damn song is still quite sexual and nowhere near in the justifiable "sanctity of marriage" kind of way. So I just want to see how in the hell this gets pulled off. That is of course, IF it ever does.

And what's the Eminem excuse...you mentioned?

very simple, he'll just turn it into a 25 minute jazzy funk jam with solo's by him, ranato,

john blackwell and ida. then he'll sing 1 or 2 lines, at most, before he tells the crowd to

sing along with shelby on the repeated punch line "extraloveable", which will from that

point on be the only lyric.

so basically it'll be a 'new' funked up jazzfest with the chant "extraloveable"

anything more would be nice, but that's all i'm expecting at this point. can't believe that

some people might actually think he'll do it as we know it. out of all of his outtakes this

is one that would seem least likely to ever make an appearance, anywhere. all of them

lyrics are a no go zone for prince at this point.

he's just bummed that someone recorded a cover and it's actually pretty darn good too.

so now he's in his "i'll take my song back, thank you very much, and while i'm at it, i'll

show you how real musicians do it and let you hear how the song was meant to sound"

all the while completely ignoring the way the song was truly meant to sound, which is

the way he recorded it almost 30 years ago.

I completely agree with one minor change in detail:

basically it'll be a 'new' fucked up jazzfest with the chant "extraloveable"

Now...that's more accurate.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

IstenSzek said:

I completely agree with one minor change in detail:

basically it'll be a 'new' fucked up jazzfest with the chant "extraloveable"

Now...that's more accurate.

I agree.

I got all worked up when I heard "2 Nigs United 4 West Compton" was on One Night Alone Live. The most boring, blandest, sounds-like-every-jazzy-song he has ever done.

He does "jazzy" on auto-pilot.

It's a "template" he likes to recycles. He just renames them when he plays them.

[Edited 3/5/11 20:02pm]

NouveauDance said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

Worse case scenario, it actually happens, but it's a 25 min version with Shelby on lead vocal.

What episode is this from?! It's killing me.

Trashcat said:

I´m still optimistic.

I also believe Prince was behind the 2010 bootleg release of ´Box Of Chocolates´

Oh for crying out loud. Bullshit like that should get you banned from this site. Small children should point at you in the street and make fun of you.

LISTEN TO THE GROWN-UPS. People who KNOW where these things come from have been saying for DECADES that Prince has got ZILCH to do with boots. Dude HATES them.

BartVanHemelen said:

Trashcat said:

I´m still optimistic.

I also believe Prince was behind the 2010 bootleg release of ´Box Of Chocolates´

Oh for crying out loud. Bullshit like that should get you banned from this site. Small children should point at you in the street and make fun of you.

LISTEN TO THE GROWN-UPS. People who KNOW where these things come from have been saying for DECADES that Prince has got ZILCH to do with boots. Dude HATES them.

I think that was a bit rude, but you're right about Prince and bootlegs.

802 said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Oh for crying out loud. Bullshit like that should get you banned from this site. Small children should point at you in the street and make fun of you.

LISTEN TO THE GROWN-UPS. People who KNOW where these things come from have been saying for DECADES that Prince has got ZILCH to do with boots. Dude HATES them.

I think that was a bit rude, but you're right about Prince and bootlegs.

Actually that was down right cordial for Bart.

BartVanHemelen said:

Trashcat said:

I´m still optimistic.

I also believe Prince was behind the 2010 bootleg release of ´Box Of Chocolates´

Oh for crying out loud. Bullshit like that should get you banned from this site. Small children should point at you in the street and make fun of you.

LISTEN TO THE GROWN-UPS. People who KNOW where these things come from have been saying for DECADES that Prince has got ZILCH to do with boots. Dude HATES them.

You could have been a bit more respectful for my opinion. I dislike nonsense on the Org as much as you do.

Didn't he only start playing/'release' a Large Room with No Light after some other guy covered it?

Or was that just coincidental?

... if this song will be anything like 'Large Room with No Light' then it'll be a great song. Looking forward to it too.

RubyButterfly said:

pald1 said:

True. The thing is, Prince SHOULD be worried about the lawsuit. Any self-respecting person would be. Or, are we to take the view that he's as nonchalant towards it as he was towards the fulfillment of the original show. Finally, wtf has it got to do with Foolberry? He's not worried because Prince isn't. What does he care?

Prince. Just stop wasting our time...

Prince seems to have a terrible fear of people viewing him as vulnerable or not in total control of every aspect of his life, or thinking his life isn't a perfect paradise filled only with hot music, hot women and good times...and when shit hits the fan such as this lawsuit (or other talk starts circulationg which might make him look like a mortal man, i.e. his hip issues), he has his designated mouthpiece issue a swagger-laden propoganda blurb to try to dilute all the discussions about his troubles, and redirect focus elsewhere - this time, Extra Loveable and Misty.

Maybe Prince truly ISN'T concerned about this lawsuit, and really, how he deals with life's trials and tribulations is his own business. But his concern with protecting his image and persona as someone who is above anything distressing, unpleasant, or painful (physically or emotionally) is obvious every time one of these "PRINCE IS ABOUT TO UNLEASH [ fill in amazing new song/video/tour/book/perfume/etc ] ON THE WORLD AND BY THE WAY HIS LIFE IS AWESOME AND HE'S NOT CONCERNED ABOUT [ fill in whatever rumored problem he's having ]!! and it's kind of amusing.

[Edited 3/4/11 17:10pm]

On point.

IstenSzek said:

this can't be a coincidence. someone pointed out the cover version to him and he heard it.

then he thought "hmm, wait a minute".

another classic outtake about to be released as a one off live performance or a half assed

newly recorded version.

we've had a few of those over the years. all turning out to be song without either a home,

or a heart.

rebirth of the flesh (rehearsal). really? finally we get the song and it's a lame rehearsal?

only half the song there, really, plus irritating shouting from bandmembers. urgh. what

makes it even worse is that he now probably considers the song to be released and does

not care to ever release the studio version.

splash - bad sound quality, tucked away amongst tons of new material on npgmc, offline.

one of the reasons npgmc could have been great, if only he'd released more of these and

bundled them together on an album.

in a large room with no light - kinda cool new version, can't hold a candle to original tho.

performed live two or three times and only available for a short time at the montreux jazz

festival website. not even put up on his own lotusflower site at the time. infuriating. even

more so since people were wooed with talks of "10 hours worth of unreleased material".

all day, all night - theme of a few shows in paris. artwork featuring the title and then he's

playing it in concert and it's just a chant. and one short acoustic version with just a few

lines. another cock tease. nothing ever came off it after that.

extra loveable - no doubt will have the same patchy 'one off' release that doesn't fit in

anywhere and will be made available through either doc funkenberrie or be broadcast

on some internet radiostation with presenters talking over the intro and outro. probably

only 1/4 of the lyrics still in tact and mostly jamming.

there are more examples of this weird promotion/resurrection of outtakes that fans have

been begging for ever since the first outtakes leaked way back.

so he's obviously aware of how much people love this stuff and how badly they would

want another crystal ball type of release. yet time after time he teases us with it and

then just backs off again.

at this point, i've had enough of outtakes. the above all made it clear to me (as some of

the tracks on crystal ball did too) that the best we can hope for is more releases like the

BOC bootleg, with first generation copies of the outtakes. that way you get them the way

they were recorded. not the post 2000 prince tinkered with versions or an "official release"

of a classic outtake which turns out to be nothing more than some loose jamming with a

chant of the title thrown in.

if he wants me excited, he's either got to anounce a new album or multiple disc set or just

go for a full on review of the vault with a multi disc project of outtakes. but don't mix them

up anymore. it deminishes the value of both the new and the old. and i'm quite sick of it

to be honest.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanyway now you can commence to cut off my head

Yup. I think the only outtake that got a good resurrection was Empty Room. Some of his live versions of that, esp in Montreux I think, we just mindblowing.

NuPwrSoul said:

IstenSzek said:

this can't be a coincidence. someone pointed out the cover version to him and he heard it.

then he thought "hmm, wait a minute".

another classic outtake about to be released as a one off live performance or a half assed

newly recorded version.

we've had a few of those over the years. all turning out to be song without either a home,

or a heart.

rebirth of the flesh (rehearsal). really? finally we get the song and it's a lame rehearsal?

only half the song there, really, plus irritating shouting from bandmembers. urgh. what

makes it even worse is that he now probably considers the song to be released and does

not care to ever release the studio version.

splash - bad sound quality, tucked away amongst tons of new material on npgmc, offline.

one of the reasons npgmc could have been great, if only he'd released more of these and

bundled them together on an album.

in a large room with no light - kinda cool new version, can't hold a candle to original tho.

performed live two or three times and only available for a short time at the montreux jazz

festival website. not even put up on his own lotusflower site at the time. infuriating. even

more so since people were wooed with talks of "10 hours worth of unreleased material".

all day, all night - theme of a few shows in paris. artwork featuring the title and then he's

playing it in concert and it's just a chant. and one short acoustic version with just a few

lines. another cock tease. nothing ever came off it after that.

extra loveable - no doubt will have the same patchy 'one off' release that doesn't fit in

anywhere and will be made available through either doc funkenberrie or be broadcast

on some internet radiostation with presenters talking over the intro and outro. probably

only 1/4 of the lyrics still in tact and mostly jamming.

there are more examples of this weird promotion/resurrection of outtakes that fans have

been begging for ever since the first outtakes leaked way back.

so he's obviously aware of how much people love this stuff and how badly they would

want another crystal ball type of release. yet time after time he teases us with it and

then just backs off again.

at this point, i've had enough of outtakes. the above all made it clear to me (as some of

the tracks on crystal ball did too) that the best we can hope for is more releases like the

BOC bootleg, with first generation copies of the outtakes. that way you get them the way

they were recorded. not the post 2000 prince tinkered with versions or an "official release"

of a classic outtake which turns out to be nothing more than some loose jamming with a

chant of the title thrown in.

if he wants me excited, he's either got to anounce a new album or multiple disc set or just

go for a full on review of the vault with a multi disc project of outtakes. but don't mix them

up anymore. it deminishes the value of both the new and the old. and i'm quite sick of it

to be honest.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanyway now you can commence to cut off my head

Yup. I think the only outtake that got a good resurrection was Empty Room. Some of his live versions of that, esp in Montreux I think, we just mindblowing.

He did do Empty Room alot of justice over the years..even a video.

Last one he's forgetting is Purple Music. A nice little tease, didnt really put too much lyrics in it and just kinda jammed on the tune.

Militant said:

pald1 said:

Fool. All you've done is simply restate Prince's position like you were making an argument of some kind. Don't bother if you have nothing to contribute.

You see, it's not exactly Prince against the Man this time is it? There might actually be people out there who do care that he pays back what's owed to the Irish promotor...say, people who ended up paying for airfares and hotels for a concert no-show. Some of them might even be as blindly fanbotic as you.

Those people should have done some fucking research in the first place because Housequake said the show was NOT HAPPENING quite literally WEEKS beforehand. I'm in the UK, why do you think I never bought a ticket?

"Don't bother if you have nothing to contribute" - sorry, I forgot you were the owner of this forum and decided the rules. Oh wait - you aren't!

Listen up. We don't know that Prince ever agreed to the gig in the first place. His position is most likely that he DIDN'T, otherwise he would have settled by now. Which puts the promoters in the wrong for just rushing out and putting tickets on sale for a show that was already said by people in contact with Prince's team to NOT be happening.

[Edited 3/5/11 5:16am]

Ok, well, I guess we can agree that neither of us know what really happened behind the scenes. The difference between us is that I'm open to the idea that both parties may have been at fault...you blame everyone BUT Prince...and that's just not rational.

pald1 said:

Ok, well, I guess we can agree that neither of us know what really happened behind the scenes. The difference between us is that I'm open to the idea that both parties may have been at fault...you blame everyone BUT Prince...and that's just not rational.

Nah, I'm not absolving Prince 100%. I'm just saying there's always different sides to the story and we haven't heard Prince's yet, ya dig? I'm also open to the possibility that he simply feels the amount they are seeking is inflated, and is willing to pay, but not as much as these guys are looking for. We just don't really have a balanced view of the whole thing, there's pieces of the puzzle missing and it's all getting filtered through the media anyway. And on that basis I think people are being a little unfair bashing Prince so much.

802 said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Oh for crying out loud. Bullshit like that should get you banned from this site. Small children should point at you in the street and make fun of you.

LISTEN TO THE GROWN-UPS. People who KNOW where these things come from have been saying for DECADES that Prince has got ZILCH to do with boots. Dude HATES them.

I think that was a bit rude, but you're right about Prince and bootlegs.

While Bart certainly knows his Prince, he somehow is not interested in normal manners and prefers to start agressive confrontations all the time. Don't worry about it, he can't help it

IstenSzek said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Even without the rape part...the whole damn song is still quite sexual and nowhere near in the justifiable "sanctity of marriage" kind of way. So I just want to see how in the hell this gets pulled off. That is of course, IF it ever does.

And what's the Eminem excuse...you mentioned?

very simple, he'll just turn it into a 25 minute jazzy funk jam with solo's by him, ranato,

john blackwell and ida. then he'll sing 1 or 2 lines, at most, before he tells the crowd to

sing along with shelby on the repeated punch line "extraloveable", which will from that

point on be the only lyric.

so basically it'll be a 'new' funked up jazzfest with the chant "extraloveable"

anything more would be nice, but that's all i'm expecting at this point. can't believe that

some people might actually think he'll do it as we know it. out of all of his outtakes this

is one that would seem least likely to ever make an appearance, anywhere. all of them

lyrics are a no go zone for prince at this point.

he's just bummed that someone recorded a cover and it's actually pretty darn good too.

so now he's in his "i'll take my song back, thank you very much, and while i'm at it, i'll

show you how real musicians do it and let you hear how the song was meant to sound"

all the while completely ignoring the way the song was truly meant to sound, which is

the way he recorded it almost 30 years ago.

Well put!

BTW I love the drum 'n bass cover!

Militant said:

pald1 said:

Ok, well, I guess we can agree that neither of us know what really happened behind the scenes. The difference between us is that I'm open to the idea that both parties may have been at fault...you blame everyone BUT Prince...and that's just not rational.

Nah, I'm not absolving Prince 100%. I'm just saying there's always different sides to the story and we haven't heard Prince's yet, ya dig? I'm also open to the possibility that he simply feels the amount they are seeking is inflated, and is willing to pay, but not as much as these guys are looking for. We just don't really have a balanced view of the whole thing, there's pieces of the puzzle missing and it's all getting filtered through the media anyway. And on that basis I think people are being a little unfair bashing Prince so much.

Um, did he perform? No? Then he should give it all back. That's the difference between right and wrong, fyi.

Wow this song causes SO much commotion.

paisleypark4 said:

Wow this song causes SO much commotion.

I know.

Prince can still cause so much controversy™, etc, etc....

eelco said:

802 said:

I think that was a bit rude, but you're right about Prince and bootlegs.

While Bart certainly knows his Prince, he somehow is not interested in normal manners and prefers to start agressive confrontations all the time. Don't worry about it, he can't help it

Thanx for cheering me up .

CerpinTaxt said:

What episode is this from?! It's killing me.

I'm not really sure! Any Seinfeld fans in the house?!