Addition: I just found out that there indeed has been a song called "Ronnie - talk to Russia!" produced by Dieter Bohlen (what a rip-off!) for a singer named Sheree. I just have serious doubt that this singer was Anna or that she was 14 years old at the time the track was recorded.

Next addition: I just found the video for the song:

Is that Anna? However, no way that the girl was 14 years old when that video was made...

There's a thread about in the associated artists forum if you want more info.

The song is relatively well-known, it pops up on euro-disco compilations from time to time.

Spinlight said:

If Prince met Anna Garcia when she was 16, he would've had to have met her between the days of December 31, 1989 and December 30, 1990.

On her 18th birthday, he gave her the coat referencing the song "Pink Cashmere". It would be impossible that Prince gave her the coat on her 18th birthday as that was in 1991. "Pink Cashmere" was recorded for placement on the Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic album in 1988. Additionally, "Anna Waiting" and "Lemon Crush" were both recorded in 1988 as well.

He wrote songs about her before he had even met her? That doesn't make sense.

NouveauDance said:

There's a thread about in the associated artists forum if you want more info.

The song is relatively well-known, it pops up on euro-disco compilations from time to time.

And you can't make me listen to it again. Nope.

EmancipationLover said:

Spinlight said:

Right?

So tell me why Prince was carousing with 2 girls under 18. He met Mayte in Germany during the Nude tour, as well.

Here's what the wiki on Anna Fantastic states:

At the age of sixteen, Anna met the musician Prince at his concert in London. At seventeen, she lived with Prince in Minneapolis, Minnesota.^[1] On Anna's 18th birthday, Prince gave her a pink cashmere coat, thus leading to the song "Pink Cashmere" that would be released in 1993. Anna inspired the songs "Vicki Waiting" (an 18th-birthday gift for Anna, originally titled "Anna Waiting") and "Lemon Crush" (her favorite drink) on Prince's Batman soundtrack from 1989. She also wrote the song "Fantasia Erotica", which resurfaced on Carmen Electra's debut album in 1992. Liner notes from the Batman soundtrack, released in 1989, credits Garcia as "Anna Fantastic".^[2] Anna is featured on the Prince Madhouse #3 album, on the 18-minute song "The Dopamine Rush Suite". and is credited as Anna Garcia.^[3]

If Prince met Anna Garcia when she was 16, he would've had to have met her between the days of December 31, 1989 and December 30, 1990.

On her 18th birthday, he gave her the coat referencing the song "Pink Cashmere". It would be impossible that Prince gave her the coat on her 18th birthday as that was in 1991. "Pink Cashmere" was recorded for placement on the Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic album in 1988. Additionally, "Anna Waiting" and "Lemon Crush" were both recorded in 1988 as well. At the time of the writing and recording of songs like "Anna Waiting"/"Vickie Waiting", "Lemon Crush" and "Pink Cashmere", Anna Garcia was 14. She turned 15 on Dec 31 1988, 17 on Dec 31 1990, and so on.

Either Anna Garcia lies heavily about her age and she was born well before 1973, or Prince was having sex with a very young minor and writing songs about getting her drunk and fucking her.

[Edited 12/6/10 0:01am]

From your posts I guess that your source for the age of Anna is wikipedia. I just looked into the wikipedia article on her: http://en.wikipedia.org/w..._Fantastic

It says that "In 1988 she recorded a song "Ronnie - Talk To Russia!", written by German songwriter and former member of Modern Talking Dieter Bohlen." How likely is this information going to be correct? Now, first of all, do you guys know who Dieter Bohlen is? And he recorded a song coincodentally having the title of a Prince song with a 14-year old girl in 1988?

I think there is something extremely wrong with this Wikipedia article...

Btw, you use the article as a valid source of information, while we know it is incorrect! Pink Cashmere was written well before the day proposed to be the 18th birthday of Anna, according to her date of birth given in the article...

Check out the sources linked....

Possessed, Uptown, etc.

http://www.myspace.com/annafantastico

http://www.myspace.com/annafantastic

http://www.myspace.com/annagjazz13

Her Myspaces.

paulludvig said:

Spinlight said:

If Prince met Anna Garcia when she was 16, he would've had to have met her between the days of December 31, 1989 and December 30, 1990.

On her 18th birthday, he gave her the coat referencing the song "Pink Cashmere". It would be impossible that Prince gave her the coat on her 18th birthday as that was in 1991. "Pink Cashmere" was recorded for placement on the Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic album in 1988. Additionally, "Anna Waiting" and "Lemon Crush" were both recorded in 1988 as well.

He wrote songs about her before he had even met her? That doesn't make sense.

That's the point. Someone's lying. Either Prince, Anna, both of 'em, Per Nilson, or...

The Rainbow Children is a true example of how Prince is exactly the opposite.

Through his music, he has challenged the Eurocentric perspective of ancient scrolls

such as the Old and and New Testaments, and has indirectly taught millions about

the presence of TRC in these texts.

The Digital Garden is the system, or as Peter Tosh taught, the shitstem. Prince's

very battle as a musician is an example of how he has fought against and

defeated those who want to control the type of music artists release, and how he

could release his own music.

His music will never be the same again, and many of ya'll bitching about Prince

not singing about slackness may indirectly want him to be a "slave" of the

Illumaniti...

but nope, not Prince.

[Edited 12/6/10 15:01pm]

Spinlight said:

EmancipationLover said:

From your posts I guess that your source for the age of Anna is wikipedia. I just looked into the wikipedia article on her: http://en.wikipedia.org/w..._Fantastic

It says that "In 1988 she recorded a song "Ronnie - Talk To Russia!", written by German songwriter and former member of Modern Talking Dieter Bohlen." How likely is this information going to be correct? Now, first of all, do you guys know who Dieter Bohlen is? And he recorded a song coincodentally having the title of a Prince song with a 14-year old girl in 1988?

I think there is something extremely wrong with this Wikipedia article...

Btw, you use the article as a valid source of information, while we know it is incorrect! Pink Cashmere was written well before the day proposed to be the 18th birthday of Anna, according to her date of birth given in the article...

Check out the sources linked....

Possessed, Uptown, etc.

http://www.myspace.com/annafantastico

http://www.myspace.com/annafantastic

http://www.myspace.com/annagjazz13

Her Myspaces.

I just checked out Dieter Bohlen's book about his life and career ("Nichts als die Wahrheit", meaning "Nothing but the truth"). I haven't found anything on a collaboration with a girl who should later on become Prince's girlfriend. O.k., the song bombed and Bohlen hates to mention his flops, but I'm quite confident his vanity would have told him to mention that he once produced a girl who later became the muse of the megastar Prince. I even checked a German Dieter Bohlen fansite, and they had a thread about the track, but no one mentioned that Sheree was Anna. Strange, all these things just don't fit...

Does anyone have the link to the thread in the Associated Artists forum? Thanks...

Spinlight said:

paulludvig said:

He wrote songs about her before he had even met her? That doesn't make sense.

That's the point. Someone's lying. Either Prince, Anna, both of 'em, Per Nilson, or...

If the girl in the pictures in this thread http://prince.org/msg/7/304634 is correctly identified she was definitely around in '88.

[Edited 12/7/10 3:55am]

Illuminati;

"Mr. Nelson, we hear that you wish to resign your membership in our organization."

*Prince removes his lollipop before speaking*

"Yup."

Illuminati;

"You do realize that this is not possible? No one has ever resigned from this organization without facing dire consequences!"

Prince;

"Do you own your masters?"

Illuminati;

"What?"

Prince;

"The opposite of NATO is OTAN."

Illuminati;

"Please explain yourself!"

Prince;

"We know your name, it's The Beast. All of God's child is your feast."

Illuminati;

"Erm, please lock the door on your way out."

babynoz said:

Illuminati;

"Mr. Nelson, we hear that you wish to resign your membership in our organization."

*Prince removes his lollipop before speaking*

"Yup."

Illuminati;

"You do realize that this is not possible? No one has ever resigned from this organization without facing dire consequences!"

Prince;

"Do you own your masters?"

Illuminati;

"What?"

Prince;

"The opposite of NATO is OTAN."

Illuminati;

"Please explain yourself!"

Prince;

"We know your name, it's The Beast. All of God's child is your feast."

Illuminati;

"Erm, please lock the door on your way out."

paulludvig said:

Spinlight said:

That's the point. Someone's lying. Either Prince, Anna, both of 'em, Per Nilson, or...

If the girl in the pictures in this thread http://prince.org/msg/7/304634 is correctly indentified she was definitely around in '88.

Well that girl certainly looks like she could be 14-16. I'm not saying she is, but she could pass for that. She could also pass for 18, though.

babynoz said:

Illuminati;

"Mr. Nelson, we hear that you wish to resign your membership in our organization."

*Prince removes his lollipop before speaking*

"Yup."

Illuminati;

"You do realize that this is not possible? No one has ever resigned from this organization without facing dire consequences!"

Prince;

"Do you own your masters?"

Illuminati;

"What?"

Prince;

"The opposite of NATO is OTAN."

Illuminati;

"Please explain yourself!"

Prince;

"We know your name, it's The Beast. All of God's child is your feast."

Illuminati;

"Erm, please lock the door on your way out."

Prince; "The opposite of NATO is OTAN."

EmancipationLover said:

Next addition: I just found the video for the song:

Is that Anna? However, no way that the girl was 14 years old when that video was made...

From Dieter's wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ter_Bohlen

In 1988, Dieter Bohlen signed a young 15 year old singer named Anna Garcia Sheree "Ronnie Talk to Russia". The record was short lived after a sex scandal involving Dieter Bohlen.

Dogsinthetrees, I couldn't have said it more beautifully. AMEN!

Spinlight said:

EmancipationLover said:

Next addition: I just found the video for the song:

Is that Anna? However, no way that the girl was 14 years old when that video was made...

From Dieter's wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ter_Bohlen

In 1988, Dieter Bohlen signed a young 15 year old singer named Anna Garcia Sheree "Ronnie Talk to Russia". The record was short lived after a sex scandal involving Dieter Bohlen.

Well, that girl looks 14/15 and she most certainly looks like Anna.

Spinlight said:

EmancipationLover said:

Next addition: I just found the video for the song:

Is that Anna? However, no way that the girl was 14 years old when that video was made...

From Dieter's wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ter_Bohlen

In 1988, Dieter Bohlen signed a young 15 year old singer named Anna Garcia Sheree "Ronnie Talk to Russia". The record was short lived after a sex scandal involving Dieter Bohlen.

I've read this too. This wiki entry is extremely mysterious and questionable to me. Bohlen is a massive celebrity in Germany. I cannot recall any "sex scandal" he was involved in around ca. 1988 (it would have been in the tabloids, for sure). Nothing like this is mentioned in his book, nor in the according thread on his fansite, nor in his German wikipedia entry. Could this be some sort of odd legend?

Btw, there is a funny mistake in the German wiki article of Laid Back: it is claimed that White Horse was the B-side of When Doves Cry...

EmancipationLover said:

Spinlight said:

From Dieter's wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ter_Bohlen

In 1988, Dieter Bohlen signed a young 15 year old singer named Anna Garcia Sheree "Ronnie Talk to Russia". The record was short lived after a sex scandal involving Dieter Bohlen.

I've read this too. This wiki entry is extremely mysterious and questionable to me. Bohlen is a massive celebrity in Germany. I cannot recall any "sex scandal" he was involved in around ca. 1988 (it would have been in the tabloids, for sure). Nothing like this is mentioned in his book, nor in the according thread on his fansite, nor in his German wikipedia entry. Could this be some sort of odd legend?

Btw, there is a funny mistake in the German wiki article of Laid Back: it is claimed that White Horse was the B-side of When Doves Cry...

If you google Dieter Bohlen sex scandal, a fuckload of results show up all having the comment from the wiki.

NelsonR said:

The Rainbow Children is a true example of how Prince is exactly the opposite.

Through his music, he has challenged the Eurocentric perspective of ancient scrolls

such as the Old and and New Testaments, and has indirectly taught millions about

the presence of TRC in these texts.

The Digital Garden is the system, or as Peter Tosh taught, the shitstem. Prince's

very battle as a musician is an example of how he has fought against and

defeated those who want to control the type of music artists release, and how he

could release his own music.

His music will never be the same again, and many of ya'll bitching about Prince

not singing about slackness may indirectly want him to be a "slave" of the

Illumaniti...

but nope, not Prince.

[Edited 12/6/10 15:01pm]

This is a truly excellent post. Right ON.

Spinlight said:

EmancipationLover said:

I've read this too. This wiki entry is extremely mysterious and questionable to me. Bohlen is a massive celebrity in Germany. I cannot recall any "sex scandal" he was involved in around ca. 1988 (it would have been in the tabloids, for sure). Nothing like this is mentioned in his book, nor in the according thread on his fansite, nor in his German wikipedia entry. Could this be some sort of odd legend?

Btw, there is a funny mistake in the German wiki article of Laid Back: it is claimed that White Horse was the B-side of When Doves Cry...

If you google Dieter Bohlen sex scandal, a fuckload of results show up all having the comment from the wiki.

Yes, and that is exactly what's odd. All these hits quote the wiki article word for word. I also googled "Dieter Bohlen Sex Skandal", which is exactly the same phrase in German. I found - nothing! How likely is it that there is valid information about a German celebrity on English websites, and you find absolutely nothing matching that info on a German website? It seems to me that in the English-speaking part of the world people just copied the (possibly wrong) wiki info on Bohlen again and again - that would at least explain the observations.

squirrelgrease said:

And you can't make me listen to it again. Nope.

NouveauDance said:

squirrelgrease said:

And you can't make me listen to it again. Nope.

If you listen to it again, you will be subject to demonic possession and then must be exorcised in the holy waters of Lake Minnetonka...

silkylee said:

I'zz B good masta. Uzz punished me Mmm, Mmm, good. I'zz nolonga B Silylee. I'zz B (TOBY) now.

what.....the......f***....

Spinlight said:

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

You assume that I'm going on rumors when I say Prince could have possibly been in the Illuminati. That is a huge claim, please don't assume I haven't fully researched what I am thinking... It's not a rumor if you can verify it! But it is useless. Like I said...he may have been in at one point, but I don't think he is now...who knows!?!

The problem with your type of rhetoric is that it attempts to bend the limits of a given variable instead of just offering a new variable altogether. You're insinuating that the people colloquially known as the Illuminati would just induct a person into their fold and then let them leave whenever they choose. From all of the information based on this loosely organized group that is out there, this is an impossibility as that is not how it works. Think of it in terms like the mafia. Once you get in, you don't get out.

Prince's public mention of things like Osama bin Laden (1998), the control of the rich over the poor (1998, 1999, 2001, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010), chem trails (Tavis Smiley 2009 interview), and the references to "strange numbers" and "shadowy figures" in re: his record and marriage contracts (1997, 1998, 1999, 2000) are all huge No No's in the world of the "Illuminati".

I think that your loose grasp of what the Illuminati represents is showing faults in your argument (or rather that your argument is invalid). I know a lot of people don't take this sort of talk very seriously, because that's exactly the point and purpose. People crack jokes about "Illuminati" in one breath and then talk about the threat of Globalization and World Government in the other without seeing the fact they are one and the same. America is a great example of an Illuminati-run nation. Anyone who does not see traces of the book 1984, the movie Total Recall, or the video game Final Fantasy 7 in today's society is not looking with their eyes open. I could probably go on and on about this topic, but it's usually one of those things people just come to on their own when they do the research.

Final Fantasy VII?

Go on please.

Eyeofthelotus said:

squirrelgrease said:

Can I play along?

An obvious Illuminati gesture with the presentation of a single eye:

[img:$uid]http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac268/squirrelgrease2009/MUCT69-Fake.jpg[/img:$uid]

Thank you Squirrelgrease.

Just like in the case of Madonna, Prince also has to play the game if he still wants to make money within the entertainment industry. The fact that he got his freedom after leaving Warner Brothers, as well as selecting a liberal-leaning faction of the Jehovah's Witnesses as his religion of choice DOES NOT excuse him from his situation at all.

[Edited 1/3/11 8:35am]

lotusboy said:

silkylee said:

I just recently seen a site on youtube called(BLOOD SACRIFICE FOR FAME PT.1) It's about entertainers selling their souls 4 wealth & fame. 2 achieve this U must sacrifice someone U love. Many major artists R mention who has performed these sacrifices R said 2 B associated with the (ILLUMMINATI.) Prince is the first artist disscussed. What's interesting is they play audio, they claim, from a 1998 tour where Prince would end his shows singing a song called the bomb! the corus line....(OSAMA BIN LADEN GETTIN READY 2 BOMB!) During that time nobody knew about Osama Bin Laden. Their basicly saying Prince knew years beforehand of 911, do 2 his association with the ILLUMMINATI. Weither it's true,or not, what do U think?

I watched this ridiculous youtube video and it says Prince's Father was his Blood Sacrifice...so lame. You would think the joker behind this foolish tape would have mentioned Prince and Mayte's horrible loss of their baby as the Blood Sacrifice...not his Papa. Then he calls Prince a Faggot... what "film maker" or whistle blower... calls people schoolyard names? this whole Blood Sacrifice Tape is amatuerish and obviously slapped together without any real research...utter foolishness. IllummiNOTi

1. If (and I say "if" very loosely) I wanted to believe in the so-called Blood Sacrifice ruling, then Boy Gregory would have been the most perfect victim, especially if Prince AND Mayte have the final say in telling the doctors to turn off the life support or not.

2. That "joker" that created the documentary is a member of the Black Hebrew Israelites, which is a black racist religion organization.

Essayvee said:

The Illumminati IS REAL but conspiracy theories are just that, conspiracy theories. There are the facts and then there's fiction and many choose to believe in the latter...

OFF-TOPIC: Thee main reason why I called my a "conspiracy realist", is because I believe AND accepted the harsh reality that most (but not ALL) conspiracies are real.

I don't research for conspiracy theories. I reseach for conspiracy FACTS.