Hey Orgers!!

I've been busy lately and I haven't had time to play but when I saw this, I just had to stop by!

This is from a very informative article posted today at Scientic American Magazine. It's by Sir Tim Berners-Lee, one of the Founding Fathers of the World Wide Web.

You can read the whole article here: http://www.scientificamer...ve-the-web

The world wide web went live, on my physical desktop in Geneva, Switzerland, in December 1990. It consisted of one Web site and one browser, which happened to be on the same computer. The simple setup demonstrated a profound concept: that any person could share information with anyone else, anywhere. In this spirit, the Web spread quickly from the grassroots up. Today, at its 20th anniversary, the Web is thoroughly integrated into our daily lives. We take it for granted, expecting it to “be there” at any instant, like electricity.

The Web evolved into a powerful, ubiquitous tool because it was built on egalitarian principles and because thousands of individuals, universities and companies have worked, both independently and together as part of the World Wide Web Consortium, to expand its capabilities based on those principles.

The Web as we know it, however, is being threatened in different ways. Some of its most successful inhabitants have begun to chip away at its principles. Large social-networking sites are walling off information posted by their users from the rest of the Web. Wireless Internet providers are being tempted to slow traffic to sites with which they have not made deals. Governments—totalitarian and democratic alike—are monitoring people’s online habits, endangering important human rights.

If we, the Web’s users, allow these and other trends to proceed unchecked, the Web could be broken into fragmented islands. We could lose the freedom to connect with whichever Web sites we want. The ill effects could extend to smartphones and pads, which are also portals to the extensive information that the Web provides.

Why should you care? Because the Web is yours. It is a public resource on which you, your business, your community and your government depend. The Web is also vital to democracy, a communications channel that makes possible a continuous worldwide conversation. The Web is now more critical to free speech than any other medium. It brings principles established in the U.S. Constitution, the British Magna Carta and other important documents into the network age: freedom from being snooped on, filtered, censored and disconnected.

Yet people seem to think the Web is some sort of piece of nature, and if it starts to wither, well, that’s just one of those unfortunate things we can’t help. Not so. We create the Web, by designing computer protocols and software; this process is completely under our control. We choose what properties we want it to have and not have. It is by no means finished (and it’s certainly not dead). If we want to track what government is doing, see what companies are doing, understand the true state of the planet, find a cure for Alzheimer’s disease, not to mention easily share our photos with our friends, we the public, the scientific community and the press must make sure the Web’s principles remain intact—not just to preserve what we have gained but to benefit from the great advances that are still to come.

Somebody be sure to tell Prince for me!

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Hey Orgers!!

I've been busy lately and I haven't had time to play but when I saw this, I just had to stop by!

This is from a very informative article posted today at Scientic American Magazine. It's by Sir Tim Berners-Lee, one of the Founding Fathers of the World Wide Web.

You can read the whole article here: http://www.scientificamer...ve-the-web

The world wide web went live, on my physical desktop in Geneva, Switzerland, in December 1990. It consisted of one Web site and one browser, which happened to be on the same computer. The simple setup demonstrated a profound concept: that any person could share information with anyone else, anywhere. In this spirit, the Web spread quickly from the grassroots up. Today, at its 20th anniversary, the Web is thoroughly integrated into our daily lives. We take it for granted, expecting it to “be there” at any instant, like electricity.

The Web evolved into a powerful, ubiquitous tool because it was built on egalitarian principles and because thousands of individuals, universities and companies have worked, both independently and together as part of the World Wide Web Consortium, to expand its capabilities based on those principles.

The Web as we know it, however, is being threatened in different ways. Some of its most successful inhabitants have begun to chip away at its principles. Large social-networking sites are walling off information posted by their users from the rest of the Web. Wireless Internet providers are being tempted to slow traffic to sites with which they have not made deals. Governments—totalitarian and democratic alike—are monitoring people’s online habits, endangering important human rights.

If we, the Web’s users, allow these and other trends to proceed unchecked, the Web could be broken into fragmented islands. We could lose the freedom to connect with whichever Web sites we want. The ill effects could extend to smartphones and pads, which are also portals to the extensive information that the Web provides.

Why should you care? Because the Web is yours. It is a public resource on which you, your business, your community and your government depend. The Web is also vital to democracy, a communications channel that makes possible a continuous worldwide conversation. The Web is now more critical to free speech than any other medium. It brings principles established in the U.S. Constitution, the British Magna Carta and other important documents into the network age: freedom from being snooped on, filtered, censored and disconnected.

Yet people seem to think the Web is some sort of piece of nature, and if it starts to wither, well, that’s just one of those unfortunate things we can’t help. Not so. We create the Web, by designing computer protocols and software; this process is completely under our control. We choose what properties we want it to have and not have. It is by no means finished (and it’s certainly not dead). If we want to track what government is doing, see what companies are doing, understand the true state of the planet, find a cure for Alzheimer’s disease, not to mention easily share our photos with our friends, we the public, the scientific community and the press must make sure the Web’s principles remain intact—not just to preserve what we have gained but to benefit from the great advances that are still to come.

Somebody be sure to tell Prince for me!

Prince agrees. http://prince.org/msg/7/346932

You have recently called the Internet dead, while you were one of the first artists who has embraced the possibilities of the Internet to sell your music. What was the reason you said this?
'Well, you shouldn't take that statement too literally. I use the internet myself as well, in order to get information. Just not to spread music anymore. All music is available to everyone thanks to the Internet, everything is free and no one appreciates music for what it is. Sometimes I want to go back to the time where you'd look months for a bootleg by someone because a new song was on that record. Wanna know how I see the Internet? I see it as a party where everyone is wearing exactly the same clothes. The adventure is somewhere else.'

remko said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Hey Orgers!!

I've been busy lately and I haven't had time to play but when I saw this, I just had to stop by!

This is from a very informative article posted today at Scientic American Magazine. It's by Sir Tim Berners-Lee, one of the Founding Fathers of the World Wide Web.

You can read the whole article here: http://www.scientificamer...ve-the-web

Somebody be sure to tell Prince for me!

Prince agrees. http://prince.org/msg/7/346932

You have recently called the Internet dead, while you were one of the first artists who has embraced the possibilities of the Internet to sell your music. What was the reason you said this?
'Well, you shouldn't take that statement too literally. I use the internet myself as well, in order to get information. Just not to spread music anymore. All music is available to everyone thanks to the Internet, everything is free and no one appreciates music for what it is. Sometimes I want to go back to the time where you'd look months for a bootleg by someone because a new song was on that record. Wanna know how I see the Internet? I see it as a party where everyone is wearing exactly the same clothes. The adventure is somewhere else.'

Well, I'll be damn!

His happy ass can even take the fun out of a good, "I told you so!"

His internet is over remark meant that is was no longer a good place to sell music (make profit). His distro with the news papers brought him a lot more than other outlets available.

Shut the front door!

Hatrina!

squirrelgrease said:

Hatrina!

Hiya Squirrelgrease!

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

remko said:

Prince agrees. http://prince.org/msg/7/346932

You have recently called the Internet dead, while you were one of the first artists who has embraced the possibilities of the Internet to sell your music. What was the reason you said this?
'Well, you shouldn't take that statement too literally. I use the internet myself as well, in order to get information. Just not to spread music anymore. All music is available to everyone thanks to the Internet, everything is free and no one appreciates music for what it is. Sometimes I want to go back to the time where you'd look months for a bootleg by someone because a new song was on that record. Wanna know how I see the Internet? I see it as a party where everyone is wearing exactly the same clothes. The adventure is somewhere else.'

Well, I'll be damn!

His happy ass can even take the fun out of a good, "I told you so!"

Yeah but I guess he's right, in a sense. I don't agree that it's like everyone wearing the same clothes, but I agree that no one appreciates the music as much.

Hatrina's back!

paniuroczy said:

Yeah but I guess he's right, in a sense. I don't agree that it's like everyone wearing the same clothes, but I agree that no one appreciates the music as much.

i appreciate music the same as i always have, if not even more, and i'm not the only one.

the internet made no difference on whether or not i appreciate music.

Efan said:

Hatrina's back!

Hi Efan! No matter how far I stray, I'm sure to be just an Orgnote away.

robinhood said:

paniuroczy said:

Yeah but I guess he's right, in a sense. I don't agree that it's like everyone wearing the same clothes, but I agree that no one appreciates the music as much.

i appreciate music the same as i always have, if not even more, and i'm not the only one.

the internet made no difference on whether or not i appreciate music.

For me, the internet has actually made me appreciate music more so.

I won't say Prince's in particular but music in general because if all I had to rely on, was the crap that's on the radio for my musical listening pleasure, I'd be mad as hell.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

robinhood said:

i appreciate music the same as i always have, if not even more, and i'm not the only one.

the internet made no difference on whether or not i appreciate music.

For me, the internet has actually made me appreciate music more so.

I won't say Prince's in particular but music in general because if all I had to rely on, was the crap that's on the radio for my musical listening pleasure, I'd be mad as hell.

mm the net kinda opened things up for us didnt it - gave us more options - enabled us to CHOOSE - instead of just being projected at via one-way media like radio and TV.

i prefer interactive media that actually gives me a CHOICE - and like you - i've discovered music i never would've known about - if it hadnt been for the net.

squirrelgrease said:

Hatrina!

..........grease ,

die Männer sind SEXMATROSEN

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

robinhood said:

i appreciate music the same as i always have, if not even more, and i'm not the only one.

the internet made no difference on whether or not i appreciate music.

For me, the internet has actually made me appreciate music more so.

I won't say Prince's in particular but music in general because if all I had to rely on, was the crap that's on the radio for my musical listening pleasure, I'd be mad as hell.

I guess I didn't word that right, because without internet I wouldn't be a Prince fan, or a Doors or Jimi Hendrix fan, etc. I discover wonderful music with the internet. I'm fairly young, so I didn't grow up with the greats. But a lot of people don't appreciate music as much, especially considering the fact that there are so many downloads, nobody's buying. A lot of people listen to music passively now. I wouldn't say everyone, but there's a lot of people who take music for granted, with the help of the internet.