roebri said:

Does anyone else think this thread is hilarious?

That was its intention!

roebri said:

Does anyone else think this thread is hilarious?

Well it sure ain't meant to be taken seriously. In fact I found some sarcasm in the OP's posts.

Also I think it's common knowledge that Prince does what he does. He's never been conventional.

roebri said:

Does anyone else think this thread is hilarious?

- Well, the title is kind of radical, but some things make sense. I dont think there is an ´end´ because Prince will always write music and release something. But the main point is the way he alienates his own fans.

GustavoRibas said:

roebri said:

Does anyone else think this thread is hilarious?

- Well, the title is kind of radical, but some things make sense. I dont think there is an ´end´ because Prince will always write music and release something. But the main point is the way he alienates his own fans.

And some fans in turn have alienated themselves from Prince mainly because there's miscommunication.

[Edited 8/9/10 11:49am]

Timmy84 said:

GustavoRibas said:

- Well, the title is kind of radical, but some things make sense. I dont think there is an ´end´ because Prince will always write music and release something. But the main point is the way he alienates his own fans.

And some fans in turn have alienated themselves from Prince mainly because there's miscommunication.

and then there are many fans like me who want to buy 20Ten... but we cannot, ...we don't even have the chance...

JoeTyler said:

and then there are many fans like me who want to buy 20Ten... but we cannot, ...we don't even have the chance...

Seriously?

Well, I live in Brasil, and I dont have international credit card, for example. I dont buy from abroad, because of heavy taxes. Didnt even try to know how to do it on Ebay.

But that´s NOT the point. The point is: WHY so much sacrifice to get things that other artists´fans get easily at the Cd store? Only to show the world how ´cool´ is Prince playing the ´revolutionary´?

[Edited 8/9/10 12:34pm]

GustavoRibas said:

Well, I live in Brasil, and I dont have international credit card, for example. I dont buy from abroad, because of heavy taxes. Didnt even try to know how to do it on Ebay.

But that´s NOT the point. The point is: WHY so much sacrifice to get things that other artists´fans get easily at the Cd store? Only to show the world how ´cool´ is Prince playing the ´revolutionary´?

[Edited 8/9/10 12:34pm]

Exactly

and not only he plays the "revolutionary", he plays the "revolutionary" who will likely lose the war...

I think Tower Investments is responsible for the WHOLE disaster

(Ooooooooooooooooops! )

StonedImmaculate said:

robinhood said:

And this is why we in the US get no 20Ten release. Why should he waste his time?

Here in the US...no one cares. Prince is an afterthought, even though the new batch of "pop artists" continuously copy his sound (Timberlake, Gaga, Katy Perry, Diddy, etc), the youth of today have no clue about Prince. Hell, not just the youth but anyone under 30 thinks Prince is a joke. It's sad and the worst part is that the majority of the blame falls on Prince himself.

So why release the album here? His whole "the internet is dead" rant was BS...he knew full well every one of us would snatch this thing off the net in a heartbeat. He made his money with the newspaper deals, did some shows to make even more, and will return home PAID. Anyone in the US that wants the album has it and he has no embarassing sales figures to deal with.

Prince is well aware that he's a has been. But I'll bet he makes more money as a has been than any other has been in the history of has been's ever has!!!!

The man's genius never ceases to amaze me.

It has a lot to do with being pissed at Itunes. I think I may just go back on the P Banwagon.;I love his music, but his antics are old. He is far too old for temper tantrums.

U will know

When u know

Otherwise............

U won't know........u know.

Graycap23 said:

U will know

When u know

Otherwise............

U won't know........u know.

I don't know?

Timmy84 said:

Graycap23 said:

U will know

When u know

Otherwise............

U won't know........u know.

I don't know?

me either

Timmy84 said:

The beginning of the end was June 7, 1993.

I thought about this post in particular, and would have to agree 100% although he has had his moments at times I just miss the WB days....

[Edited 8/17/10 14:06pm]

The first years of the last decade was one of his best era's (one nite piano, live, npgmc)..so don't compare present times to those times...i don't care about his commercial succes or how i have to get his music...i will get it..i just hope for better music then the dissapointing 2010....(what uninspiring title is that anyway?)

JoeTyler said:

GustavoRibas said:

Well, I live in Brasil, and I dont have international credit card, for example. I dont buy from abroad, because of heavy taxes. Didnt even try to know how to do it on Ebay.

But that´s NOT the point. The point is: WHY so much sacrifice to get things that other artists´fans get easily at the Cd store? Only to show the world how ´cool´ is Prince playing the ´revolutionary´?

[Edited 8/9/10 12:34pm]

Exactly

and not only he plays the "revolutionary", he plays the "revolutionary" who will likely lose the war...

Not sure why I am responding, I guess I am stupid. Some factory presses up a few million cds, and put them in a little piece of cardboard/paper. Then said cd is put in shops, and people buy them at conventional stores. End of that story.

New story: Some factory presses up a few million cds, and put them in a little piece of cardboard/paper. Then said cd is put in a newspaper, a cereal box, or a fucking can of pork and beans, and is sold in every country except whichever country you live in. I figure if you are smart enough to post on the org, then you probably can find the mental ability to purchase the cd from the daily mirror: http://www.mirror.co.uk/c...order-row/ Yes, they are still selling it. Even in a major worldwide economic downturn, 7 dollars or 5 pounds...is not that much. I'd pay someone much more than that to clean up my back porch.

Conclusion: It is the same damb cd regardless of how/when it was sold, buy it, listen to it, be happy. Sure, it would be nice to have a USA release with a nicer case, bonus tracks, etc. I would rather have a hard to get cd with good music, then a readily available cd with crap on it.

I can't breathe thinking about the possibility of living in the USA and not being able to buy the physical CD!

stillwaiting said:

JoeTyler said:

Exactly

and not only he plays the "revolutionary", he plays the "revolutionary" who will likely lose the war...

Not sure why I am responding, I guess I am stupid. Some factory presses up a few million cds, and put them in a little piece of cardboard/paper. Then said cd is put in shops, and people buy them at conventional stores. End of that story.

New story: Some factory presses up a few million cds, and put them in a little piece of cardboard/paper. Then said cd is put in a newspaper, a cereal box, or a fucking can of pork and beans, and is sold in every country except whichever country you live in. I figure if you are smart enough to post on the org, then you probably can find the mental ability to purchase the cd from the daily mirror: http://www.mirror.co.uk/c...order-row/ Yes, they are still selling it. Even in a major worldwide economic downturn, 7 dollars or 5 pounds...is not that much. I'd pay someone much more than that to clean up my back porch.

Conclusion: It is the same damb cd regardless of how/when it was sold, buy it, listen to it, be happy. Sure, it would be nice to have a USA release with a nicer case, bonus tracks, etc. I would rather have a hard to get cd with good music, then a readily available cd with crap on it.

The irony in that statement is IT IS EASY to get the CD from what you posted about getting it from the Mirror.

So it's not hard to get. But people want it released in their own countries too. Why isn't the rest of Europe talking?!

I'm American but I'm kinda pissed that no other Europeans are making threads about when Prince is gonna put it out in their country.

There's more to Europe you know?

stillwaiting said:

Not sure why I am responding, I guess I am stupid. Some factory presses up a few million cds, and put them in a little piece of cardboard/paper. Then said cd is put in shops, and people buy them at conventional stores. End of that story.

New story: Some factory presses up a few million cds, and put them in a little piece of cardboard/paper. Then said cd is put in a newspaper, a cereal box, or a fucking can of pork and beans, and is sold in every country except whichever country you live in. I figure if you are smart enough to post on the org, then you probably can find the mental ability to purchase the cd from the daily mirror: http://www.mirror.co.uk/c...order-row/ Yes, they are still selling it. Even in a major worldwide economic downturn, 7 dollars or 5 pounds...is not that much. I'd pay someone much more than that to clean up my back porch.

Conclusion: It is the same damb cd regardless of how/when it was sold, buy it, listen to it, be happy. Sure, it would be nice to have a USA release with a nicer case, bonus tracks, etc. I would rather have a hard to get cd with good music, then a readily available cd with crap on it.

- It´s the ´same´ CD when it comes to MUSIC - which is the most important thing, of course - but the 20Ten package doesnt compare to ANY of his previous CDs. Even TRC, that was considered ´indie´, had a booklet! 20Ten is pressed with the same material of the ´Rock and roll is alive´ single. Cheap, very cheap.

Like I said before, IF I wanted to, I could get an international credit card and buy it. But why? Wouldnt it be a lot more simple if Prince released CDs like other artists, accessible easily? Even after WB he did it and, according to him, he made good money. Nobody gave me a good reason why he is right, other than ´being different´. And I am surprised that even some americans seem to support an american artist selling his album in Europe only...

How about since 20Ten will be over shortly, that he releases a new cd in the United States. Back it with some live shows, dvd releases and some videos. I know that MTV and VH1 and other "music" channels no longer show music videos, but perhaps have a dual release... have the music with video's of each song. Just a thought.

My life would not be over if Prince retired. I would miss new releases, but my life would continue. Like Prince said himself at the BET awards show... he thinks the future of soul music is in good hands. That alone sounds like he might be wanting to hang it up. But, no one knows that mind of Prince but Prince himself. If he gave it up, I would not cry over it. I would take joy in the things that make my life, and sadly... he does not. My child coming in October is going to be my main concern, and the love of my wife.

Well, I can live without Prince, of course, but I definitely dont want to. And I dont think the future of soul music is in good hands. Janelle Monae, Erykah Badu, etc, are cool, but something is missing, compared to Prince. Maybe it´s the versatility, or the guitar playing, or the arrangements. Prince is not only a great songwriter but he delivers a great ´package´ (song + performance + arrangement + production).

I hope he releases a live DVD soon. It´s about time.

If we're in store for more uninspired music like what's on 20ten then I say this should be the end. Someone showed him ProTools and now he doesn't seem to want to use live instruments anymore, at least, not from what I'm hearing from the music. I may be wrong about that but it seems that he's taking easier, lazy roads to producing music.

In another post I read people mentioning ways to get him inspired to create better music(I don't remember the thread). Maybe this is a road he needs to take to refresh his creative juices and start getting inspired again and not release another lazy MPLSound or 20ten. If 20ten is his final product of the year then the US can do better without.

JoeTyler said:

This is serious...

For the FIRST time in his career, Prince cannot or does not want to release his new album in the USA...

this is sad, and dangerous.

I THINK HE'S JUST LOSING IT. He doesn't care about the Internet, he doesn't care about the industry, he doesn't care about the ways his albums are released, he doesn't care about his fans, he doesn't care about his core audience of the USA (or the rest of the world, for that matter)...the return of the freak, the weirdo, the return of the "I like to be in the wilderness, cuz I NEED to be different than the rest of the world...", the return of the dreadful 97-03 years...???? shit, fuck, shit

what's his future? to write new music only for a select audience that will get his new CDs via european newspapers or via rapidshare (like the american audience is doing right now)?? Is this what we deserve? do we have to travel to Germany or the UK?? IS THAT IT??

...THIS IS SERIOUS...I'M scared...For the first time, I can feel that Prince TRULY doesn't give a FUCK about his music anymore...so possible "retirement" (sort of) in the near future?? just like Bowie did??

Discuss...

Why should he release it in the USA? Hell, ever since he left WB it's like he can't get any radio air other than the stuff owned by Warner Brothers!! It's like his been black balled from the air waves! American artist have all ways been better recieved and respected over seas!!!Period.. At least the real artist are!!

wilsoqp said:

Why should he release it in the USA? Hell, ever since he left WB it's like he can't get any radio air other than the stuff owned by Warner Brothers!! It's like his been black balled from the air waves! American artist have all ways been better recieved and respected over seas!!!Period.. At least the real artist are!!

- IMO, it´s not about Billboards, or hits. It´s about an artist´s music reaching his fanbase and attracting new fans.

Graycap23 said:

Timmy84 said:

I don't know?

me either

"What is the password?"

GustavoRibas said:

wilsoqp said:

Why should he release it in the USA? Hell, ever since he left WB it's like he can't get any radio air other than the stuff owned by Warner Brothers!! It's like his been black balled from the air waves! American artist have all ways been better recieved and respected over seas!!!Period.. At least the real artist are!!

- IMO, it´s not about Billboards, or hits. It´s about an artist´s music reaching his fanbase and attracting new fans.

I agree whole heartedly! But without radio play or other general forms of advertisment the material to the masses goes on heard! Except for the diehards period!

Not releasing the horrendous 20ten in the states was probably the smartest thing he's done in 15 years. So depending how you look at it, he's been making shrewd career moves.

babynoz said:

scared?

Good lord...if Prince never recorded another note the sun would still rise tomorrow and there's still lots of great music out there.

Y'all kill me...

[img:$uid]http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y240/delivertheword/misc/flaminghead-runner.gif[/img:$uid]

Three examples that make babynoz's case:

"XXX" - Jimmy Edgar

"Compass" - Jamie Lidell

"Wu Massacre" - Method Man, Raekwon, and Ghostface Killah

JoeTyler said:

This is serious...

For the FIRST time in his career, Prince cannot or does not want to release his new album in the USA...

this is sad, and dangerous.

I THINK HE'S JUST LOSING IT. He doesn't care about the Internet, he doesn't care about the industry, he doesn't care about the ways his albums are released, he doesn't care about his fans, he doesn't care about his core audience of the USA (or the rest of the world, for that matter)...the return of the freak, the weirdo, the return of the "I like to be in the wilderness, cuz I NEED to be different than the rest of the world...", the return of the dreadful 97-03 years...???? shit, fuck, shit

what's his future? to write new music only for a select audience that will get his new CDs via european newspapers or via rapidshare (like the american audience is doing right now)?? Is this what we deserve? do we have to travel to Germany or the UK?? IS THAT IT??

...THIS IS SERIOUS...I'M scared...For the first time, I can feel that Prince TRULY doesn't give a FUCK about his music anymore...so possible "retirement" (sort of) in the near future?? just like Bowie did??

Discuss...

this is obviously baiting, but Ill bite. u need to understand, he was the first artist to sell his material on the internet, hes broken ground with the newspapers, just follow his lead...he knows what he is doing. and ..take a xanax, please.