Laydeez and gentlemen (and Bette) of the jury!

I put it to you that Prince's recent 20ten tour has been the most disastrous of his career.

The evidence?

Poor ticket sales. They even had to give away tickets or slash them by half price to get the punters in.

The setlist. Jesus H Christ! Has anything moved on since the O2 ? Answer?? NO!!!

Even Madonna" tell me when to stop miming" Ciccone lets her new songs live for a while onstage.

The band. Surely his lamest band ever. Cora? I think not! Shelby?? Crap cabaret bint or amazing talent waiting to be discovered??!! We all know the answer to that one!

The cancellations. We've all been a bit jittery since Croke Park and the recent events ( Good evening Geneva!!....NOT!!) have proved us right. Some even doubt ( or care) that Nice will take place.

The fashions. Who in the name of fuck told Prince he looked good in that stage outfit? Helen Keller??!!!

The support acts? Mint condition!!!...now there's a pun if ever there was one. Larry" No blood transfusions!" Graham??!! Even most Prince fans hope he gets adbucted by aliens, how did P think any sober festival go-er would be interested in paying for this second rate crap?

And speaking of "paying"- the ticket prices were shamefully high for such a poor show.

The album? Interesting, if inoffensive,pop-funk or sad offer from genius of yesteryear...answers on a postcard purleese!!!

No merchandise.! Just pay the high prices and then fuck off home after the umpteenth version of Purple Rain.

Crap covers. Oh yeah! He doesn't have enough classics in his rep to fill a couple of hours!!!

Sad lack of interest. Even here on the org the lack of excitement ( apart from some frogs and a couple of Belgians) was deafening.

M'Lud! I am not a Prince hater! But it's a sad day when you tell people that one of your favourite artists is Prince and they giggle nervously.

I rest my case. :

[Edited 7/21/10 14:00pm]

eireboy34 said:

Laydeez and gentlemen (and Bette) of the jury!

I put it to you that Prince's recent 20ten tour has been the most disastrous of his career.

The evidence?

Poor ticket sales. They even had to give away tickets or slash them by half price to get the punters in.

The setlist. Jesus H Christ! Has anything moved on since the O2 ? Answer?? NO!!!

Even Madonna" tell me when to stop miming" Ciccone lets her new songs live for a while onstage.

The band. Surely his lamest band ever. Cora? I think not! Shelby?? Crap cabaret bint or amazing talent waiting to be discovered??!! We all know the answer to that one!

The cancellations. We've all been a bit jittery since Croke Park and the recent events ( Good evening Geneva!!....NOT!!) have proved us right. Some even doubt ( or care) that Nice will take place.

The fashions. Who in the name of fuck told Prince he looked good in that stage outfit? Helen Keller??!!!

The support acts? Mint condition!!!...now there's a pun if ever there was one. Larry" No blood transfusions!" Graham??!! Even most Prince fans hope he gets adbucted by aliens, how did P think any sober festival go-er would be interested in paying for this second rate crap?

And speaking of "paying"- the ticket prices were shamefully high for such a poor show.

The album? Interesting, if inoffensive,pop-funk or sad offer from genius of yesteryear...answers on a postcard purleese!!!

No merchandise.! Just pay the high prices and then fuck off home after the umpteenth version of Purple Rain.

Crap covers. Oh yeah! He doesn't have enough classics in his rep to fill a couple of hours!!!

Sad lack of interest. Even here on the org the lack of excitement ( apart from some frogs and a couple of Belgians) was deafening.

M'Lud! I am not a Prince hater! But it's a sad day when you tell people that one of your favourite artists is Prince and they giggle nervously.

I rest my case. :

[Edited 7/21/10 14:00pm]

Looks like you are just picking just to pick now..just stop listening.

It looks like a massive success to me. Big shows with big crowds. Energetic performances. Some great media buzz in the countries involved.

If you read the set list, it looks like the O2 shows. But Prince has completely reworked the hits. The version of Let's Go Crazy was the best I've heard in 22 years of seeing him live.

Which of the shows did you attend that left you with this impression? Hmm. Am I guessing...none of them?

1) Did you attend any of the festival gigs?

2) Which fan/ media reviews are you drawing on in reaching your conclusion?

At the risk of tiring org readers with a repeat of what has been stated time and again the last couple of weeks: festivals require artists to play their hits. That's what the casual fans want. That's what they got.

Poor ticket sales could be a mixture of many things including poor promotion/ poor choice of venues/ lack of preparation and publicity/ people's inability to pay to see performers during the current financial climate; your assumption that it's because of Prince's performance/ choice of set list is just that, assumption.

80spfantwp said:

1) Did you attend any of the festival gigs?

2) Which fan/ media reviews are you drawing on in reaching your conclusion?

At the risk of tiring org readers with a repeat of what has been stated time and again the last couple of weeks: festivals require artists to play their hits. That's what the casual fans want. That's what they got.

Poor ticket sales could be a mixture of many things including poor promotion/ poor choice of venues/ lack of preparation and publicity/ people's inability to pay to see performers during the current financial climate; your assumption that it's because of Prince's performance/ choice of set list is just that, assumption.

Luckily I didn't waste money traveling to the gigs ( especially Genava!)

I was expecting this lame defence.

Don't you have anything better?

It's true , if I had paid such high ticket prices to stand in a field, I too, laydeez and gentlemen of the jury, would also want to convinve myself that the shows were up to par.

If you want to believe that, OK.

But name a Prince tour that was more disastrous!

65,000 saw Prince at Roskilde, Denmark..... and very good reviews in the press.

thedance said:

65,000 saw Prince at Roskilde, Denmark..... and very good reviews in the press.

Still lame defence...and this was part of a festival so people were there anyway.

^ well, it seems no matter what Prince can't satisfy everyone.

the clips I have seen on YT looked absolutely fantastic.

My niece at 21 saw the show at the Roskilde Festival, the best concert she has ever witnessed she told me.

stop spread all that negativity lol..... most of us are enjoying

I agree with this post. AWEFUL and DISASTROUS tour. I think its the band. There is nothing withing this band to excite him. They are boring, emotionless and have no personality. He was at his best when he had people around him that pushed him and were just as musically talented as him. All of his bands up through 96 were like that and he feeded off of them. Since then its been shakey. The 2000-2004 band was interesting and seemed to revive him but in between 97-2000 and since 2004 they have sucked and it seems to carry over to him on cd and live. Unfortunately I thinkn we are stuck with these people as he has to have JW band members now. It is indeed a painfall fall of Prince for us fans

eireboy34 said:

Sad lack of interest. Even here on the org the lack of excitement ( apart from some frogs and a couple of Belgians) was deafening.

Hey! Watch your language you little green leprechaun!

the berlin show was more than HOT SHIT!!

17.500 people party like its 1999! prince was payed upfront and we were happy!!! my best evening this year so far...

so, where is the problem?

So, in summary, you're saying a concert you didn't go to wasn't very good and complaining about a lack of merchandise you weren't there to buy.

Have you considered taking up a hobby?

trickster said:

the berlin show was more than HOT SHIT!!

17.500 people party like its 1999! prince was payed upfront and we were happy!!! my best evening this year so far...

so, where is the problem?

Glad to hear you enjoyed Berlin like I enjoyed Arras.

Life is beautiful!!!!

Lame, lame , lame...

OK, if this wasn't his most disastrous tour, which was???

^ how can you judge if you did not attend? haven't seen these concerts? haven't experienced the concert atmosphere?

the worst tour was the 1990 Nude at Gentofte stadium, Copenhagen - and the 1998 NPS tour at Valbyhallen, Copenhagen. I was there and I was disappointed. Especially with Nude tour.

To me Roskilde 20TEN looks completely amazing, people going absolutely wild. Judging from clips on YT. Long versions of Little Red Corvette and Kiss, amazing.

thedance said:

^ how can you judge if you did not attend? haven't seen these concerts? haven't experienced the concert atmosphere?

the worst tour was the 1990 Nude at Gentofte stadium, Copenhagen - and the 1998 NPS tour at Valbyhallen, Copenhagen. I was there and I was disappointed. Especially with Nude tour.

To me Roskilde 20TEN looks completely amazing, people going absolutely wild. Judging from clips on YT. Long versions of Little Red Corvette and Kiss, amazing.

Nude tour...hmm, interesting defence.

I would argue, however, that while the artisic merits of that tour were not much better that 20ten ( I did see ithe Nude Tour in Cork) at least people were interested in Prince and tickets, overall, sold better.

You need to get over Croke Park.

muirdo said:

You need to get over Croke Park.

Brilliant defence...are you a lawyer??!!

eireboy34 said:

muirdo said:

You need to get over Croke Park.

Brilliant defence...are you a lawyer??!!

Im not defending it all.

I haven't seen any of the tour so I really can't comment.

The ppl I know wouldn't bother spending funds to see the O2 again. Is there a new album? If so, please play some of it.

How many times do you want to hear a re-hash of some OLD tune?

How many time are you trading on yesterday?

Prince get ur finger out ur posterior, put ur slide rule down & play some new stuff.

eireboy34 said:

80spfantwp said:

1) Did you attend any of the festival gigs?

2) Which fan/ media reviews are you drawing on in reaching your conclusion?

At the risk of tiring org readers with a repeat of what has been stated time and again the last couple of weeks: festivals require artists to play their hits. That's what the casual fans want. That's what they got.

Poor ticket sales could be a mixture of many things including poor promotion/ poor choice of venues/ lack of preparation and publicity/ people's inability to pay to see performers during the current financial climate; your assumption that it's because of Prince's performance/ choice of set list is just that, assumption.

Luckily I didn't waste money traveling to the gigs ( especially Genava!)

I was expecting this lame defence.

Don't you have anything better?

It's true , if I had paid such high ticket prices to stand in a field, I too, laydeez and gentlemen of the jury, would also want to convinve myself that the shows were up to par.

If you want to believe that, OK.

But name a Prince tour that was more disastrous!

You have rendered your own point null and void.

You cannot spell.

eireboy34 said:

Lame, lame , lame...

OK, if this wasn't his most disastrous tour, which was???

The Gold Experience tour was probably his worst. Shows were few and undersold. He had built this elaborate stage set but had to dump it during the tour cause he couldn't afford to transport it. The tour lost staff, too. By the end of it Prince had to do his own sound. Pretty crazy . That HAS to have been the worst Prince tour.

All this whinging, I would give my left arm to go to a Prince concert, you all complain about the same old songs, and lame new ones, at least you see him in North America and Europe, he dosen't give a flying fuck about the rest of the world. He hasn't been to Australia since the early 90s and never been to New Zealand. If Prince came here (Auckland) and played a concert consisting of Purple Rain and songs from The Rainbow Children, along with some preaching, I would be forever grateful for that small miracle. The mans 52, hes given his whole life to the stage, let him just have fun on the stage.

eireboy34 said:

Laydeez and gentlemen (and Bette) of the jury!

I put it to you that Prince's recent 20ten tour has been the most disastrous of his career.

The evidence?

Poor ticket sales. They even had to give away tickets or slash them by half price to get the punters in.

The setlist. Jesus H Christ! Has anything moved on since the O2 ? Answer?? NO!!!

Even Madonna" tell me when to stop miming" Ciccone lets her new songs live for a while onstage.

The band. Surely his lamest band ever. Cora? I think not! Shelby?? Crap cabaret bint or amazing talent waiting to be discovered??!! We all know the answer to that one!

The cancellations. We've all been a bit jittery since Croke Park and the recent events ( Good evening Geneva!!....NOT!!) have proved us right. Some even doubt ( or care) that Nice will take place.

The fashions. Who in the name of fuck told Prince he looked good in that stage outfit? Helen Keller??!!!

The support acts? Mint condition!!!...now there's a pun if ever there was one. Larry" No blood transfusions!" Graham??!! Even most Prince fans hope he gets adbucted by aliens, how did P think any sober festival go-er would be interested in paying for this second rate crap?

And speaking of "paying"- the ticket prices were shamefully high for such a poor show.

The album? Interesting, if inoffensive,pop-funk or sad offer from genius of yesteryear...answers on a postcard purleese!!!

No merchandise.! Just pay the high prices and then fuck off home after the umpteenth version of Purple Rain.

Crap covers. Oh yeah! He doesn't have enough classics in his rep to fill a couple of hours!!!

Sad lack of interest. Even here on the org the lack of excitement ( apart from some frogs and a couple of Belgians) was deafening.

M'Lud! I am not a Prince hater! But it's a sad day when you tell people that one of your favourite artists is Prince and they giggle nervously.

I rest my case. :

[Edited 7/21/10 14:00pm]

Spot on !

And oh... I'd say: Shelby J -> Crap cabaret bint

And oh.. (2)... if the aliens decide to obduct Larry , can they pls also suck up that guy with the harmonica

(little chance though, if they're smart enough to travel here, they're sure as hell smart enough not to obduct Larry G)

the dance said:

the worst tour was the 1990 Nude at Gentofte stadium, Copenhagen - and the 1998 NPS tour at Valbyhallen, Copenhagen. I was there and I was disappointed. Especially with Nude tour.

To me Roskilde 20TEN looks completely amazing, people going absolutely wild. Judging from clips on YT. Long versions of Little Red Corvette and Kiss, amazing

I totally agree. Nude tour, Gentofte stadium, was the worst Prince show I've ever been at. I was sooo disappointed. Also saw a show in Germany on that tour that wasn't much better. The ones in Sweden (all indoors) later on in the tour were an improvement, but Nude tour is still on the bottom of my list. I was at Roskilde and was fearing that it was gonna be a repeat of Gentofte Stadium 1990, somehow it seemed that a festival show clearly done for the money could easily go in that direction. But to my absolute delight it turned out to be FANTASTIC. He was a in such a great mood and it was one big and long party. Even for someone like me who have seen him 25 times, it was just great with the alternate versions of the hits and there was rarities like Why U Wanna Treat Me So Bad and Mountains. Prince was dancing his ass off and SHEILA E was there:-D

So for me this tour is WAY above tours like the Nude, the Diamond & Pearls and the 1998 tours.

Thanks Eire. You've put a smile on my face this morning. Some people here are gonna take what you say and react to it, whereas others are gonna realise you're rant for what it is. Forum chats and conversations are nigh on impossible really but I enjoyed listening to what you had to say.

As for Croke, well it cost myself and my wife a lot of money to make a long weekend of that no-show but we had a great time there in a great city. Would definitely go back to Dublin (if only for the fact that the Guinness tastes just that little bit better) so thanks Prince for forcing my hand on that one. Even though he's a tit for not playing and offering no apology. There's mysterious and there's plain arrogance.

Can't comment on any of this tour but I sure hopes he doesn't play England as my daughter is getting married this year and I couldn't afford to go.

On a side note I saw Jools Holland two weeks ago in the grounds of Ledbury Castle. All very civilised; ladies in dresses, picnic blankets and chairs and the sound of champagne corks popping. Ruby Turner was excellent by the way.

1998....Cologne....the worst gig ever....

2010 Vienna: Awesome..

(U didn´t join the show, didn´t you ? Poor boy...but nice thread to polarize the masses

If gigs like Vienna are turning out to be profitable to Prince ? I don´t know...but I think he left Vienna with € 600k in his suitcase...not so bad. For me...the tix were a birthday present from my wife...VIP + hotel + flight.... )

[Edited 7/22/10 3:40am]

Arras show was bloody great. What the hell are you talking about mate?

The Brixton academy and Wembley arena shows in London in 1998 along with the Paris Nude show in the Parc des Princes in 1989 were really bad.

I guess you have NOT attended any of the recent shows...