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Reply #90 posted 07/21/10 11:02am

Paris9748430

Timmy84 said:

I just don't honestly see a big deal, if he's doing the hits at festival gigs and the fan-known stuff at other concerts, then I don't see the problem. shrug

Guess you can't please everyone...

Exactly.

People know damn well that a majority of people going to see him or any other classic artist are there to hear the hits.

That's why there's always been this joke that The Rolling Stones playing their new material is a cue to go to the bathroom.

Springsteen fans don't give him shit for playing Thunder Road for the billionth time.

U2 fans could care less that they've heard I Still Haven't Found 10,000 times.

I sincerely doubt Prince playing his classic material is gonna stop anyone from enjoying themselves at his concerts.

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Reply #91 posted 07/21/10 11:23am

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Timmy84 said:

thepope2the9s said:

How do you define NEW music? like from her most recent album?

Just wondering cuz this is her setlist from last year

Madonna Concert at Estadio Vicente Calderon, Madrid, Spain Setlist on July 23, 2009

  1. Candy Shop
  2. Beat Goes On
  3. Human Nature
  4. Vogue
  5. Die Another DayAdditional Information: interludeinterlude
  6. Into The Groove
  7. Holiday / Celebration
  8. Dress You Up
  9. She's Not Me
  10. Music
  11. Rain / Here Comes The Rain AgainAdditional Information: interludeinterlude
  12. Devil Wouldn't Recognize You
  13. Spanish Lesson
  14. Miles Away
  15. La Isla Bonita / Lela Pala Tute
  16. Doli Doli
  17. You Must Love Me
  18. Get StupidAdditional Information: interludeinterlude
  19. 4 Minutes
  20. Like A Prayer
  21. Frozen / Open Your Heart
  22. Ray Of Light
  23. Give It 2 Me

Now Bartboy, do the math and tell me the % of this setlist you consider NEW music.

[Edited 7/21/10 10:59am]

SEE! I knew I wasn't reading things. nod The songs in bold are the "newer songs".

[Edited 7/21/10 11:01am]

That would be roughly 44% new and 66% old songs or hits as they call them.

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Reply #92 posted 07/21/10 11:43am

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thepope2the9s said:

Timmy84 said:

SEE! I knew I wasn't reading things. nod The songs in bold are the "newer songs".

[Edited 7/21/10 11:01am]

That would be roughly 44% new and 66% old songs or hits as they call them.

Ah, math. So useful. Well done.

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Reply #93 posted 07/21/10 12:10pm

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The Madonna debate is kind of weird...but I think it's a great set list. A very nice mixture of hits and new songs. The new album she was promoting had 12 songs on it, and she performed 8 of them. And she mixed up the old songs. No "Like a Virgin" or "Borderline" on there or "Papa Don't Preach," etc.

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Reply #94 posted 07/21/10 12:13pm

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Efan said:

The Madonna debate is kind of weird...but I think it's a great set list. A very nice mixture of hits and new songs. The new album she was promoting had 12 songs on it, and she performed 8 of them. And she mixed up the old songs. No "Like a Virgin" or "Borderline" on there or "Papa Don't Preach," etc.

Showing a least a bit of imagination and interest in her new material ( girl).

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Reply #95 posted 07/21/10 4:20pm

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Yeah Prince's hit setlist bores me, but nobody forces me to go see him in concert, right?!

And uh ..... really Bart, you act like Prince is the love of your life who cheated on you. The fact that you're still here just shows how deep in your system he still is. What else could be the reason why you made it your gospel to try to show the org that Prince is not as sweet as he seems? If the love is over ..... move on dude!

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Reply #96 posted 07/21/10 5:27pm

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Efan said:

The Madonna debate is kind of weird...but I think it's a great set list. A very nice mixture of hits and new songs. The new album she was promoting had 12 songs on it, and she performed 8 of them. And she mixed up the old songs. No "Like a Virgin" or "Borderline" on there or "Papa Don't Preach," etc.

I think the Madonna debate is fitting. You could also inlclude Michael Jackson. Three artists huge in the 80s, still making an impact today. I don't know enough of Michael Jackson's tours, but Madonna's tours always promote her latest release. I agree with Bart, he just got the % of the shows being all new material incorrect.

Sticky and Sweet Tour - 9 of 12 songs off Hard Candy

Confessions Tour - 10 of 12 songs off Confessions On A Dance Floor

Reinvention Tour - 7 of 11 off American Life

Drowned World Tour - 8 of 10 off Music and 7 of 13 off Ray of Light

I personally woudn't consider what Prince is doing now, a few shows here and there, a full on tour.

Love 4 One Another/Jam of the Years Tours - generally 5 of 36 (Jam of the Year, Get You Groove On, Face Down, Mr Happy, Sleep Around) (Mr Happy and Sleep Around were normally dropped during the 2nd leg, as was Get You Groove On in the 2nd half of the 2nd leg)

New Power Soul Tour - 5 of 9 off New Power Soul (Mad Sex, Push It Up, Freaks On This Side, Come On, The One) (That is being very generous, as most of those songs were not played every night)

Hit and Run Tour - 0 of 15 off Rave

One Night Alone Tour - 5 of 14 off The Rainbow Children for the North American leg (The Rainbow Children, Muse 2 the Pharaoh, Mellow, 1+1=3, Family Name) (The Everlasting Now was added towards the end)

One Night Alone Tour - 7 of 14 off The Rainbow Children for the European/Japan leg (The Rainbow Children, Muse 2 the Pharaoh, Mellow, 1+1=3, Family Name, The Everlasting Now, The Work, pt 1) (Muse 2 the Pharaoh was often dropped)

Musicology Tour - 5 of 12 off Musicology (Musicology, Life O' the Party, On the Couch, Call My Name, Dear Mr Man) (Again being very generous as On the Couch, Call My Name, and Dear Mr Man were not always played)

The residincies in Las Vegas and London were not tours, even though minimal songs were played off 3121 and Planet Earth. Bottom line is Madonna has a lot more die hard fans than Prince and she can play whatever the hell she wants at her shows and still charge $300.00+. cool

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Reply #97 posted 07/22/10 12:33am

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Madonna's setlist are usually around 50% new album and 50% hits, the Drowned World Tour was the ONLY time it was 80% new music and only a few hits, but then she balanced that out with the Re-Invention Tour where the new music was buried in a sea of hits (also, out of the 7 American Life songs, 1 was a dub interlude and another was just one verse in another song).

And while she has more hits than Prince, it's not like she doesn't repeat the same songs. Fans were already complaining that she sang "La Isla Bonita" & "Ray Of Light" 3 out of 4 tours in the past decade, she almost always sings "Holiday" & "Music". But there are hits she never plays, like "Take A Bow" or almost every 90s ballad except the Evita stuff, or a worldwide #1 single like "Who's That Girl". It also took her TWENTY-THREE years to play "Borderline" again, which is her first top 10 hit.

It's also important to note that Madonna practically never plays "rarities" and "album tracks", other than "Paradise" on the Confessions Tour, while Prince pulls out non-singles like "Sometimes It Snows In April" or "The Cross" very often. We wish Madonna started doing songs like "Sanctuary" or "Swim" on her shows...

To the person who said Madonna's old music is embarrassing for both her and the fans, then explain why does she always sing a song from her debut or the sophomore album whenever it's "for the fans" or when she had that request section? A lot of people were wishing for "Dress You Up", so she did it in 2009, it also became a centerpiece of the Celebration GH, yet she didn't even write it...

Even Madonna's flops like Erotica got a lot more attention than anything except Musicology by Prince in the last 15 years, so she can afford to do a lot more new music. She sold 3.5 million CDs of Hard Candy and 3.5 million tickets of Sticky & Sweet so the audience wasn't that offended to hear "She's Not Me" or "Miles Away".

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Reply #98 posted 07/22/10 2:41am

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Interesting thumbs up!

motherfunka said:


I personally woudn't consider what Prince is doing now, a few shows here and there, a full on tour.

Love 4 One Another/Jam of the Years Tours - generally 5 of 36 (Jam of the Year, Get You Groove On, Face Down, Mr Happy, Sleep Around) (Mr Happy and Sleep Around were normally dropped during the 2nd leg, as was Get You Groove On in the 2nd half of the 2nd leg)

New Power Soul Tour - 5 of 9 off New Power Soul (Mad Sex, Push It Up, Freaks On This Side, Come On, The One) (That is being very generous, as most of those songs were not played every night)

Hit and Run Tour - 0 of 15 off Rave

One Night Alone Tour - 5 of 14 off The Rainbow Children for the North American leg (The Rainbow Children, Muse 2 the Pharaoh, Mellow, 1+1=3, Family Name) (The Everlasting Now was added towards the end)

One Night Alone Tour - 7 of 14 off The Rainbow Children for the European/Japan leg (The Rainbow Children, Muse 2 the Pharaoh, Mellow, 1+1=3, Family Name, The Everlasting Now, The Work, pt 1) (Muse 2 the Pharaoh was often dropped)

Musicology Tour - 5 of 12 off Musicology (Musicology, Life O' the Party, On the Couch, Call My Name, Dear Mr Man) (Again being very generous as On the Couch, Call My Name, and Dear Mr Man were not always played)

The residincies in Las Vegas and London were not tours, even though minimal songs were

off 3121 and Planet Earth.

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Reply #99 posted 07/23/10 6:08am

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LiveToTell86 said:

Madonna's setlist are usually around 50% new album and 50% hits, the Drowned World Tour was the ONLY time it was 80% new music and only a few hits, but then she balanced that out with the Re-Invention Tour where the new music was buried in a sea of hits (also, out of the 7 American Life songs, 1 was a dub interlude and another was just one verse in another song).

And while she has more hits than Prince, it's not like she doesn't repeat the same songs. Fans were already complaining that she sang "La Isla Bonita" & "Ray Of Light" 3 out of 4 tours in the past decade, she almost always sings "Holiday" & "Music". But there are hits she never plays, like "Take A Bow" or almost every 90s ballad except the Evita stuff, or a worldwide #1 single like "Who's That Girl". It also took her TWENTY-THREE years to play "Borderline" again, which is her first top 10 hit.

It's also important to note that Madonna practically never plays "rarities" and "album tracks", other than "Paradise" on the Confessions Tour, while Prince pulls out non-singles like "Sometimes It Snows In April" or "The Cross" very often. We wish Madonna started doing songs like "Sanctuary" or "Swim" on her shows...

To the person who said Madonna's old music is embarrassing for both her and the fans, then explain why does she always sing a song from her debut or the sophomore album whenever it's "for the fans" or when she had that request section? A lot of people were wishing for "Dress You Up", so she did it in 2009, it also became a centerpiece of the Celebration GH, yet she didn't even write it...

Even Madonna's flops like Erotica got a lot more attention than anything except Musicology by Prince in the last 15 years, so she can afford to do a lot more new music. She sold 3.5 million CDs of Hard Candy and 3.5 million tickets of Sticky & Sweet so the audience wasn't that offended to hear "She's Not Me" or "Miles Away".

All her releases/tours get more attention because she is part of the record industry system that P turned away from when he broke away from WB.

I wonder who made more $ over that time period.

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Reply #100 posted 07/23/10 1:01pm

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thepope2the9s said:

All her releases/tours get more attention because she is part of the record industry system that P turned away from when he broke away from WB.

I wonder who made more $ over that time period.

Madonna. Guaranteed.

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Reply #101 posted 07/23/10 5:26pm

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thepope2the9s said:

All her releases/tours get more attention because she is part of the record industry system that P turned away from when he broke away from WB.

I wonder who made more $ over that time period.

Madonna has left Warner Brothers also.

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Reply #102 posted 07/23/10 5:28pm

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TheVoid said:

Number23 said:

[img:$uid]http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/jennag/diary/media/DSC01810.jpg[/img:$uid]

You could only get away will selling gay shit like that in the UK.

Prince would have certainly kick started the Tea Party movement well before Barack Obama became president, if he had pulled that shit in the states.

ROTFLMAO!

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Reply #103 posted 07/23/10 5:32pm

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SadAntenna said:

purpledoveuk said:

govinda said: It's an odd situation really - A Prince gig used to be current tracks with a few modem classics and a few crowd pleasing old classic (most non-Prince gigs I've been to are usually the same format too). Certainly since the ONA tour it's been all great hits with maybe 1 or 2 newish songs. I think it's mainly because a large section if his catalogue hasn been open omthe masses and, some of is too experimental and he doesn't have the tracks to please the crowd in the albums of recent years...there are a few exceptions but even around the gold expeience tour he was pulling out random album tracks and rocking the sets. I think he's limited himself to a certain selection through self censorship and refection. Also his promtionsl tours don't promote hey just earn money via path of least resistance - ONAnPlayed 1 song of that album, the 2 planet earth shows I saw had 4 tracks. Ask yourself when was he last time you though ..."oh my god he's playing...." Mine was 2002, I Love U In Me...since then it's been text book/paint by numbers concert

The last time would be Montreux 2009:

When I lay my hands on u
Little red corvette
Somewhere here on earth
When the lights go down
Willing and able
I love u but I don't trust u anymore
She spoke 2 me
Love like jazz
All this love

1st encore:
Empty room
Elixer
In a large room with no light

2nd encore:
Insatiable
Scandalous
The Beautiful Ones
Nothing Compares 2 U

Now that's what I call a great setlist!

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Reply #104 posted 07/23/10 5:40pm

babynoz

Timmy84 said:

I just don't honestly see a big deal, if he's doing the hits at festival gigs and the fan-known stuff at other concerts, then I don't see the problem. shrug

Guess you can't please everyone...

I don't think it's that big of a deal either. My preference is less cover songs and maybe 50/50 hits and fan known songs. According to the venue I can usually guess which type of show to expect and choose whether to go or not. The only song I am truly fed up with is Kiss. shrug

As for Madonna, I ain't going to see her no matter what she plays. lol

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Reply #105 posted 07/23/10 5:49pm

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Just for info, here is P's list at Le New Morning in Paris 7/23/10

01.Stratus
02.Brown skin (?)
03.I've never loved a man
04.Baby love
05.Beautiful strange
06.Sometimes it snows in April
07.Hair
08. (?) w/Uptown interpolation

-----Encore 1------
09.When will we b paid?
10.Que sera sera
11.Controversy w/Housequake chants

-----Encore 2-----
12.I love u but i don't trust u anymore
13.Dreamer
14.The ride
15.Miss you
16.Kiss
17.Cream

-----Encore 3-----
18.How come u don't call me anymore? w/Please please please

-----Encore 4-----
19.Shake your body
20.Everyday people
21.I want to take you higher

-----Encore 5-----
22.Purple Music / All the critics love u in New Morning
23.Dance (disco heat)

------Encore 6------
Piano Set
24.Diamonds & pearls
25.Raspberry beret
26.Starfish & coffee
27.Venus de Milo
28.Still waiting
29.Future soul song
30. "Oh New Morning" - Purple Rain

Synth outro

This is probably incomplete

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Reply #106 posted 07/23/10 5:59pm

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^^^I like that set list. It's rather...somber and slow for a Prince concert, but I like it.

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Reply #107 posted 07/23/10 6:27pm

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Efan said:

The Madonna debate is kind of weird...but I think it's a great set list. A very nice mixture of hits and new songs. The new album she was promoting had 12 songs on it, and she performed 8 of them. And she mixed up the old songs. No "Like a Virgin" or "Borderline" on there or "Papa Don't Preach," etc.

Actually she did perform Borderline 7th song on the dvd release

And she sang Like A Virgin with the crowd when she asked what song they what her to sing

Papa Don't Preach was never a regular concert number

But when she had her 1st tour since the Girl Show, the Drowned World Tour 2001

the lack of popular songs was a critic/complaint

this tour featured songs from 2 new albums Ray of Light & Music

2 of the 'older songs' performed were from an album not toured with-Bed Times Stories

Drowned World

Substitute For Love

Impressive Instant

Candy Perfume Girl

Beautiful Stranger

Ray of Light

Paradise Not For Me

Frozen

Open Your Heart interlude

Nobody's Perfect

Mer Girl

Sky Fits Heaven

Mer Girl

I Deserve It

Don't Tell Me

Human Nature

Secret

Gone

Don't Cry For Me Argentina(instrumental)

Lo Que Siente La Mujer

What It Feels Like For a Girl

La Isla Bonita

Holiday

Music

Prince's Parade Tour didn't feature any music from Purple Rain but the song Purple Rain sometimes and I think Dance Electric was done a time or 2. But did ATWIAD & Raspberry Beret Pop Life and sometimes the Ladder from ATWIAD

the Sign o the Times tour only featured Let's Go Crazy, Purple Rain nothing from ATWIAD, and only Kiss from Parade, 1999 Little Red Corvette from 1999

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Reply #108 posted 07/23/10 8:25pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

Prince's Parade Tour didn't feature any music from Purple Rain but the song Purple Rain sometimes and I think Dance Electric was done a time or 2. But did ATWIAD & Raspberry Beret Pop Life and sometimes the Ladder from ATWIAD

the Sign o the Times tour only featured Let's Go Crazy, Purple Rain nothing from ATWIAD, and only Kiss from Parade, 1999 Little Red Corvette from 1999

On the Parade tour When Doves Cry was a regular in the set list from New York until the end of the tour. Paisley Park, Condition of the Heart, and America were also played sometimes.

On the Sign of the Times tour When Doves Cry was again in the regular set list. Girls and Boys from Parade was also in the regular set list.

[Edited 7/23/10 20:26pm]

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Reply #109 posted 07/24/10 2:49am

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thepope2the9s said:

All her releases/tours get more attention because she is part of the record industry system that P turned away from when he broke away from WB.

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Reply #110 posted 07/25/10 8:51am

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thepope2the9s said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Always the same excuses. Then explain Madonna playing 80% NEW MUSIC on each of her tours.

How do you define NEW music? like from her most recent album?

Just wondering cuz this is her setlist from last year

Madonna Concert at Estadio Vicente Calderon, Madrid, Spain Setlist on July 23, 2009

  1. Candy Shop
  2. Beat Goes On
  3. Human Nature
  4. Vogue
  5. Die Another DayAdditional Information: interludeinterlude
  6. Into The Groove
  7. Holiday / Celebration
  8. Dress You Up
  9. She's Not Me
  10. Music
  11. Rain / Here Comes The Rain AgainAdditional Information: interludeinterlude
  12. Devil Wouldn't Recognize You
  13. Spanish Lesson
  14. Miles Away
  15. La Isla Bonita / Lela Pala Tute
  16. Doli Doli
  17. You Must Love Me
  18. Get StupidAdditional Information: interludeinterlude
  19. 4 Minutes
  20. Like A Prayer
  21. Frozen / Open Your Heart
  22. Ray Of Light
  23. Give It 2 Me

Now Bartboy, do the math and tell me the % of this setlist you consider NEW music.

[Edited 7/21/10 10:59am]

I see about half a dozen of her '80s songs, the rest are more recent. Go on, calculate the average age of the songs played, I bet it isn't 25 years. Seems to me she's got a healthy balance of 80s/90s/00s songs. Now compare to "forward looking" Prince.

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Reply #111 posted 07/25/10 8:52am

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Paris9748430 said:

Timmy84 said:

I just don't honestly see a big deal, if he's doing the hits at festival gigs and the fan-known stuff at other concerts, then I don't see the problem. shrug

Guess you can't please everyone...

Exactly.

People know damn well that a majority of people going to see him or any other classic artist are there to hear the hits.

That's why there's always been this joke that The Rolling Stones playing their new material is a cue to go to the bathroom.

Springsteen fans don't give him shit for playing Thunder Road for the billionth time.

U2 fans could care less that they've heard I Still Haven't Found 10,000 times.

I sincerely doubt Prince playing his classic material is gonna stop anyone from enjoying themselves at his concerts.

Yet all of those artists DO PLAY THEIR RECENT MUSIC. Prince DOES NOT.

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Reply #112 posted 07/25/10 8:56am

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motherfunka said:

Love 4 One Another/Jam of the Years Tours - generally 5 of 36 (Jam of the Year, Get You Groove On, Face Down, Mr Happy, Sleep Around) (Mr Happy and Sleep Around were normally dropped during the 2nd leg, as was Get You Groove On in the 2nd half of the 2nd leg)

New Power Soul Tour - 5 of 9 off New Power Soul (Mad Sex, Push It Up, Freaks On This Side, Come On, The One) (That is being very generous, as most of those songs were not played every night)

Hit and Run Tour - 0 of 15 off Rave

One Night Alone Tour - 5 of 14 off The Rainbow Children for the North American leg (The Rainbow Children, Muse 2 the Pharaoh, Mellow, 1+1=3, Family Name) (The Everlasting Now was added towards the end)

One Night Alone Tour - 7 of 14 off The Rainbow Children for the European/Japan leg (The Rainbow Children, Muse 2 the Pharaoh, Mellow, 1+1=3, Family Name, The Everlasting Now, The Work, pt 1) (Muse 2 the Pharaoh was often dropped)

Musicology Tour - 5 of 12 off Musicology (Musicology, Life O' the Party, On the Couch, Call My Name, Dear Mr Man) (Again being very generous as On the Couch, Call My Name, and Dear Mr Man were not always played)

Did he actually play those songs every night? Nope. Also, did he actually play those songs or just use a few lines from them in a medley?

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Reply #113 posted 07/25/10 9:03am

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thepope2the9s said:

All her releases/tours get more attention because she is part of the record industry system that P turned away from when he broke away from WB.

Emancipation: EMI

Newpower Soul: BMG (in Europe)

Rave: Arista

Musicology: Columbia

3121: Universal

Planet Earth: Columbia

All mom&pop-operations.

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Reply #114 posted 07/25/10 11:10am

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BartVanHemelen said:

motherfunka said:

Love 4 One Another/Jam of the Years Tours - generally 5 of 36 (Jam of the Year, Get You Groove On, Face Down, Mr Happy, Sleep Around) (Mr Happy and Sleep Around were normally dropped during the 2nd leg, as was Get You Groove On in the 2nd half of the 2nd leg)

New Power Soul Tour - 5 of 9 off New Power Soul (Mad Sex, Push It Up, Freaks On This Side, Come On, The One) (That is being very generous, as most of those songs were not played every night)

Hit and Run Tour - 0 of 15 off Rave

One Night Alone Tour - 5 of 14 off The Rainbow Children for the North American leg (The Rainbow Children, Muse 2 the Pharaoh, Mellow, 1+1=3, Family Name) (The Everlasting Now was added towards the end)

One Night Alone Tour - 7 of 14 off The Rainbow Children for the European/Japan leg (The Rainbow Children, Muse 2 the Pharaoh, Mellow, 1+1=3, Family Name, The Everlasting Now, The Work, pt 1) (Muse 2 the Pharaoh was often dropped)

Musicology Tour - 5 of 12 off Musicology (Musicology, Life O' the Party, On the Couch, Call My Name, Dear Mr Man) (Again being very generous as On the Couch, Call My Name, and Dear Mr Man were not always played)

Did he actually play those songs every night? Nope. Also, did he actually play those songs or just use a few lines from them in a medley?

My point was that he doesn't play the new songs like he did in the past.

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Reply #115 posted 07/26/10 5:35am

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BartVanHemelen said:

thepope2the9s said:

All her releases/tours get more attention because she is part of the record industry system that P turned away from when he broke away from WB.

Emancipation: EMI

Newpower Soul: BMG (in Europe)

Rave: Arista

Musicology: Columbia

3121: Universal

Planet Earth: Columbia

All mom&pop-operations.

yes, but did they dish out money to promote his music/tour?Did they push his music into radio? NO.

He had 1 year distribution deals and that is it. Not the same as being

under a full CONtract with a label.

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Reply #116 posted 07/26/10 5:41am

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BartVanHemelen said:

motherfunka said:

Love 4 One Another/Jam of the Years Tours - generally 5 of 36 (Jam of the Year, Get You Groove On, Face Down, Mr Happy, Sleep Around) (Mr Happy and Sleep Around were normally dropped during the 2nd leg, as was Get You Groove On in the 2nd half of the 2nd leg)

New Power Soul Tour - 5 of 9 off New Power Soul (Mad Sex, Push It Up, Freaks On This Side, Come On, The One) (That is being very generous, as most of those songs were not played every night)

Hit and Run Tour - 0 of 15 off Rave

One Night Alone Tour - 5 of 14 off The Rainbow Children for the North American leg (The Rainbow Children, Muse 2 the Pharaoh, Mellow, 1+1=3, Family Name) (The Everlasting Now was added towards the end)

One Night Alone Tour - 7 of 14 off The Rainbow Children for the European/Japan leg (The Rainbow Children, Muse 2 the Pharaoh, Mellow, 1+1=3, Family Name, The Everlasting Now, The Work, pt 1) (Muse 2 the Pharaoh was often dropped)

Musicology Tour - 5 of 12 off Musicology (Musicology, Life O' the Party, On the Couch, Call My Name, Dear Mr Man) (Again being very generous as On the Couch, Call My Name, and Dear Mr Man were not always played)

Did he actually play those songs every night? Nope. Also, did he actually play those songs or just use a few lines from them in a medley?

Hey Barty what happened to your claim that Madonna plays 80%-90% NEW music at her gigs? Guess the facts got in the way huh.

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Prince's Parade Tour didn't feature any music from Purple Rain but the song Purple Rain sometimes and I think Dance Electric was done a time or 2. But did ATWIAD & Raspberry Beret Pop Life and sometimes the Ladder from ATWIAD

the Sign o the Times tour only featured Let's Go Crazy, Purple Rain nothing from ATWIAD, and only Kiss from Parade, 1999 Little Red Corvette from 1999

On the Parade tour When Doves Cry was a regular in the set list from New York until the end of the tour. Paisley Park, Condition of the Heart, and America were also played sometimes.

On the Sign of the Times tour When Doves Cry was again in the regular set list. Girls and Boys from Parade was also in the regular set list.

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Right, I probably remember America the most, but yeah Condition of the Heart piano set was a regular on the Lovesexy tour too

Right SOTT When Doves Cry was also on the Lovesexy tour. But again the Lovesexy tour featured a lot of songs from various albums. Girls & Boys almost seems as regular as Purple Rain

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LiveToTell86 said:

Madonna's setlist are usually around 50% new album and 50% hits, the Drowned World Tour was the ONLY time it was 80% new music and only a few hits, but then she balanced that out with the Re-Invention Tour where the new music was buried in a sea of hits (also, out of the 7 American Life songs, 1 was a dub interlude and another was just one verse in another song).

And while she has more hits than Prince, it's not like she doesn't repeat the same songs. Fans were already complaining that she sang "La Isla Bonita" & "Ray Of Light" 3 out of 4 tours in the past decade, she almost always sings "Holiday" & "Music". But there are hits she never plays, like "Take A Bow" or almost every 90s ballad except the Evita stuff, or a worldwide #1 single like "Who's That Girl". It also took her TWENTY-THREE years to play "Borderline" again, which is her first top 10 hit.

It's also important to note that Madonna practically never plays "rarities" and "album tracks", other than "Paradise" on the Confessions Tour, while Prince pulls out non-singles like "Sometimes It Snows In April" or "The Cross" very often. We wish Madonna started doing songs like "Sanctuary" or "Swim" on her shows...

To the person who said Madonna's old music is embarrassing for both her and the fans, then explain why does she always sing a song from her debut or the sophomore album whenever it's "for the fans" or when she had that request section? A lot of people were wishing for "Dress You Up", so she did it in 2009, it also became a centerpiece of the Celebration GH, yet she didn't even write it...

Even Madonna's flops like Erotica got a lot more attention than anything except Musicology by Prince in the last 15 years, so she can afford to do a lot more new music. She sold 3.5 million CDs of Hard Candy and 3.5 million tickets of Sticky & Sweet so the audience wasn't that offended to hear "She's Not Me" or "Miles Away".

Erotic was a flop? I wouldn't say it was a flop, that whole period actually made her even more relevant I think. But I agree in comparison to some of her others it could be considered a flop

2 Me that whole period was wild and in your face the Sex book the album and the Girlie Show, which is still my top 2 favorites

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ica_(album)

Erotica is the fifth studio album by American singer-songwriter Madonna, released on October 20, 1992 by Maverick Records. The album was released simultaneously with Madonna's first book publication, Sex. The RIAA certified it double platinum on January 6, 1993, recognizing two million shipments throughout the U.S. Worldwide sales are currently recorded at over 5 million. The album has been certified Double Platinum in the UK with sales exceeding 600,000.

Erotica's fifth single, "Rain," got recognition at the MTV Video Music Awards in 1993, and the album spawned her critically successful Girlie Show World Tour. Erotica was Madonna's first album to have the Parental Advisory sticker.

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Erotic was a flop? I wouldn't say it was a flop, that whole period actually made her even more relevant I think. But I agree in comparison to some of her others it could be considered a flop

2 Me that whole period was wild and in your face the Sex book the album and the Girlie Show, which is still my top 2 favorites

Erotica wasn't a flop. It sold quite well, just not as much as her past releases. So they called it a flop.neutral

Just a tidbit: I was at Glam Slam Minneapolis one night around the time of this release and Prince and Carmen Electra danced together to the remix of Erotica.

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