Rinluv said:

I don't mind the hits really but I would love for him to stop playin the same hits/songs every show..I would like for him to change it up..Play the other songs on the album..Instead of playin 1999 and LRC all the time, why not play Somethin in the Water and International Lover (its not too dirty of a song lyrically for him to sing one or two verses).

Agreed.

Being a fan long enough, u get kinda tired hearing the same pure "hits" like LRC and defintely Let's Go Crazy. A little more of the known yet less familiar songs like he did w/ the Musicology tour playing 7, Alphabet St, Sometimes It Snows in April, songs like that. I would also like to hear more of the new album at every tour, especially in the beginning of the show to keep my interests going.

SadAntenna said:

The last time would be Montreux 2009:

When I lay my hands on u
Little red corvette
Somewhere here on earth
When the lights go down
Willing and able
I love u but I don't trust u anymore
She spoke 2 me
Love like jazz
All this love

1st encore:
Empty room
Elixer
In a large room with no light

2nd encore:
Insatiable
Scandalous
The Beautiful Ones
Nothing Compares 2 U

This was one of the best most recent shows next to the Paisley Park 2009 Show P did. I have not been impressed with the choice of songs P has done with the European shows but, if I was there when he was doing them, that would be a different story ... LoL

I think with Prince since he's not traditionally a huge seller in the way his other '80s contemporaries were, there's only a few faithful that would dig anything he sings. Mainly if he held concerts in Paisley Park, you'll get more newer or unreleased songs than the classics. But if he were to do a tour of the Americas he probably do what he's been doing in Europe. Ain't no telling with him. He could do a classics-free show one day and a classics-heavy show the next. Depends on the venue.

govinda said:

Have you have enough, like me, of P`s playlist with old "hits" at every show?

One word : YES!

The last time would be Montreux 2009:

When I lay my hands on u
Little red corvette
Somewhere here on earth
When the lights go down
Willing and able
I love u but I don't trust u anymore
She spoke 2 me
Love like jazz
All this love

1st encore:
Empty room
Elixer
In a large room with no light

2nd encore:
Insatiable
Scandalous
The Beautiful Ones
Nothing Compares 2 U

Which of these are "hits"?

skywalker said:

The last time would be Montreux 2009:

When I lay my hands on u
Little red corvette
Somewhere here on earth
When the lights go down
Willing and able
I love u but I don't trust u anymore
She spoke 2 me
Love like jazz
All this love

1st encore:
Empty room
Elixer
In a large room with no light

2nd encore:
Insatiable
Scandalous
The Beautiful Ones
Nothing Compares 2 U

Which of these are "hits"?

"Little Red Corvette".

Timmy84 said:

skywalker said:

Which of these are "hits"?

"Little Red Corvette".

yes , but the way he did it was cool , with the wailing guitar at the beginning and thru out...

SadAntenna said:

To be fair, isn't Madonna's setlist like 90% the same every night on her tours? I know it still includes new songs, but as far as her being more adventurous and daring, I guess it can be viewed as pretty stale (not to mention pre-programmed and ready to lip sync to) as well.

To be fair, isn't Prince's setlists on an official tour 90% the same every night? I really don't have to ask, I already know the answer. YES. This is true for most artists. Madonna just always does the new material, Prince doesn't anymore.

Timmy84 said:

skywalker said:

Which of these are "hits"?

"Little Red Corvette".

Exactly.

2freaky4church1 said:

He said he was going to retire some of these songs forever.

I never understood this either. Has he ever explained on why he started playing them again?

Anyway, yes I've had definitely more than enough of "Let's Go Crazy", never liked the song much and that he still (almost) opens with it, giving it a prominent spot on the setlist, saddens me because he has so many more and much better songs to choose from.

I've also had enough of him telling people to chant "I like funky music" for what feels like 20 minutes, and with his huge number of great songs there really is no need for him to play other people's hits or covers so much (and didn't he hate it when bands covered his songs, than why do it yourself?).

Okay, enough ranting, mind you he's still my favourite artist of all time!

How many that are tired are hearing the hits will decide to not buy tickets to the next tour?

HonestMan13 said:

How many that are tired are hearing the hits will decide to not buy tickets to the next tour?

I already said I won't. I have no desire to see another hits show/tour. Especially with this band, which really isn't my favorite that he's worked with.

BartVanHemelen said:

Timmy84 said:

Even Madonna had to put a few classics back in her set list because fans were complaining about not enough hits on it. So no one's immune to it. Not Prince, not Madonna, no one.

Oh please. Madonna's latest shows have been about her LATEST albums and featured 80% NEW/RECENT music. Prince plays the hits and the same goddamn covers he's been playing for 10+ years and maybe one or two recent song. Madonna's the OPPOSITE of Prince.

So ask yourself this question: if Madonna's audience can tolerate a set heavy on recent songs, how come Prince's can't? Also: how can a recent song become a classic when PRINCE DOES NOT PLAY IT?

Bart....it's amazing the levels of bullshit you shovel just to continue being the Org's Troll mascot...

Yes I am sick of setlists consisting of mostly hits.

SadAntenna said:

To be fair, isn't Madonna's setlist like 90% the same every night on her tours?

So is Prince's. Even his aftershows are pre-programmed setlists.

HonestMan13 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

True she usually features the 95% of the whole new album, some hits, and some classics

Most Madonna fans I know truly believe she could shit onstage and they'd want front row seats and pictures with the turd.

Gotta love that: millions of people visiting Madonna concerts = all hardcore fans. Thousands of people visiting Prince concerts = random folks who can't stand to hear anything but the hits.

Nothinbutjoy said:

I'm not saying he likes it or prefers it. I'm saying he knows it's happening and he's adjusted accordingly.

Bullcrap. PROVE IT.

And whether he allows them or not, the photographers are there, hence all the pictures from the shows.

Go on, show me one professional photo from the Werchter gig.

Nothinbutjoy said:

He doesn't want people to take liberties with his work, (music and image), so he doesn't put out there anything more than what he has to to make enough money to live the way he wants to. He doesn't want them taking the liberties because they can/will make money off of it and to him that money should all belong to him.

Hilarious. The nonsense you lot believe. Yes, the world is full of hideously rich people who've earned their fortune peddling books about Prince, and selling bootleg recordings.

STICK TO THE FACTS.

thepope2the9s said:

I was watching a Paul McCartney concert the other day and Im a big beatles fan and like McCartneys early stuff from Band on the Run etc...but I havent bought any of his music from 1982-present, so I wouldnt know any songs from him from say the past 30 years. He played mostly hits and a few new songs during his show. It helped me understand how the casual fan wants to hear the hits and only us diehards want P's new stuff.

P is in the same boat as McCartney and other artists when playing to large crowds. Gotta bust out the hits.

Always the same excuses. Then explain Madonna playing 80% NEW MUSIC on each of her tours.

Cerebus said:

HonestMan13 said:

How many that are tired are hearing the hits will decide to not buy tickets to the next tour?

I already said I won't. I have no desire to see another hits show/tour. Especially with this band, which really isn't my favorite that he's worked with.

I might go if the show was in the centre of Paris with decent ticket prices.

That said, I made no real effort to go to the Grand Palais and, of course, Arras was just out of the question.

And from the gig reviews/setlist, looks like I made the right decision.

thepope2the9s said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Oh please. Madonna's latest shows have been about her LATEST albums and featured 80% NEW/RECENT music. Prince plays the hits and the same goddamn covers he's been playing for 10+ years and maybe one or two recent song. Madonna's the OPPOSITE of Prince.

So ask yourself this question: if Madonna's audience can tolerate a set heavy on recent songs, how come Prince's can't? Also: how can a recent song become a classic when PRINCE DOES NOT PLAY IT?

Your comparing Madonna to Prince? Pleaase...thats apples and oranges..u cannot compare the two. Their careers are not alike any too many ways. Their fans are not alike either.

Madonna plays FAR LARGER gigs than Prince. Yet the post just above this one you claim that when playing large crowds artists have to play the hits.

Go on, explain what's different.

NeoGeo24bit said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Oh please. Madonna's latest shows have been about her LATEST albums and featured 80% NEW/RECENT music. Prince plays the hits and the same goddamn covers he's been playing for 10+ years and maybe one or two recent song. Madonna's the OPPOSITE of Prince.

So ask yourself this question: if Madonna's audience can tolerate a set heavy on recent songs, how come Prince's can't? Also: how can a recent song become a classic when PRINCE DOES NOT PLAY IT?

I'll take on "Bart" with a simple explanation.

Madonna plays more of her current music because in reality her old music is absolutely terrible. Prince's old music consists many true classics. Madonna's old music is embarrassing to listen to and probably even more embarrassing for her to sing today.

Did I say she doesn't sing her old songs? No I said her concerts LARGELY consist of new music. But you lot can't bear to admit defeat, so you keep making up lies.

Each tme you lie to avoid admitting defeat, you just admit defeat.

murph said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Oh please. Madonna's latest shows have been about her LATEST albums and featured 80% NEW/RECENT music. Prince plays the hits and the same goddamn covers he's been playing for 10+ years and maybe one or two recent song. Madonna's the OPPOSITE of Prince.

So ask yourself this question: if Madonna's audience can tolerate a set heavy on recent songs, how come Prince's can't? Also: how can a recent song become a classic when PRINCE DOES NOT PLAY IT?

Bart....it's amazing the levels of bullshit you shovel just to continue being the Org's Troll mascot...

Am I lying? Does Madonna play to LARGER AUDIENCES than Prince? Do her setlists consist of 80% NEW material? Calling that bullshit is lying in order to avoid admitting defeat.

Bart, Madonna's setlists are about 50-60% new music versus hits, not 80% (although she's had newer hits, so it depends what you think of as new vs hit e.g. 4 minutes). However it's not 80%, unless you've seen setlists I haven't, in which case I'd appreciate a link.

Your points may still be valid, but I suspect that particular 'fact' isn't.

BartVanHemelen said:

Nothinbutjoy said:

I'm not saying he likes it or prefers it. I'm saying he knows it's happening and he's adjusted accordingly.

Bullcrap. PROVE IT.

And whether he allows them or not, the photographers are there, hence all the pictures from the shows.

Go on, show me one professional photo from the Werchter gig.

Bullcrap yourself.

He know it's happening because he's hired lawyers to remove it from the internet.

I said nothing about the recordings or photos being done by professionals. For one who claims to really know the score, you seem to have a problem grasping this concept.

BartVanHemelen said:

murph said:

Bart....it's amazing the levels of bullshit you shovel just to continue being the Org's Troll mascot...

Am I lying? Does Madonna play to LARGER AUDIENCES than Prince? Do her setlists consist of 80% NEW material? Calling that bullshit is lying in order to avoid admitting defeat.

You are full of shit...Because u know that Prince's setlist is connected to a particular audaince...But you coviently brush over that very point because of your strange obsessive agenda to crap on all things Prince on a Prince site no less....Ha!...You give a bad name to people who honestly want to have intelligent, constructive criticism of the man's work.....

It's been established (and shown) that when Prince plays a "Prince" show, he is much more looser with the playlist...Hell, during his last dates before his current European tour, the biggest hit he played was "Little Red Corvette"....You are clearly manipulating things to push your talking points when you don't even take into account that artists who play FESTIVAL settings usually play their hits...And that's what exactly has been happeng Bart...Prince's recent European gigs have been performed in front of music fans who only know his well-known material, not the "Prince fans" who know the new material....

There is no reasoniing with you anymore....It's time to be truthful and admit you are incapable of having a level-headed discussion about Prince and his music....

[Edited 7/21/10 7:27am]

BartVanHemelen said:

murph said:

Bart....it's amazing the levels of bullshit you shovel just to continue being the Org's Troll mascot...

Am I lying? Does Madonna play to LARGER AUDIENCES than Prince? Do her setlists consist of 80% NEW material? Calling that bullshit is lying in order to avoid admitting defeat.

So answr this question.

Who sings live to larger audiences?

Prince, as Madonna Mimes to her songs in concert.

I just don't honestly see a big deal, if he's doing the hits at festival gigs and the fan-known stuff at other concerts, then I don't see the problem.

Guess you can't please everyone...

BartVanHemelen said:

thepope2the9s said:

I was watching a Paul McCartney concert the other day and Im a big beatles fan and like McCartneys early stuff from Band on the Run etc...but I havent bought any of his music from 1982-present, so I wouldnt know any songs from him from say the past 30 years. He played mostly hits and a few new songs during his show. It helped me understand how the casual fan wants to hear the hits and only us diehards want P's new stuff.

P is in the same boat as McCartney and other artists when playing to large crowds. Gotta bust out the hits.

Always the same excuses. Then explain Madonna playing 80% NEW MUSIC on each of her tours.

How do you define NEW music? like from her most recent album?

Just wondering cuz this is her setlist from last year

Madonna Concert at Estadio Vicente Calderon, Madrid, Spain Setlist on July 23, 2009

1. Candy Shop
2. Beat Goes On
3. Human Nature
4. Vogue
5. Die Another Dayinterlude
6. Into The Groove
7. Holiday / Celebration
8. Dress You Up
9. She's Not Me
10. Music
11. Rain / Here Comes The Rain Againinterlude
12. Devil Wouldn't Recognize You
13. Spanish Lesson
14. Miles Away
15. La Isla Bonita / Lela Pala Tute
16. Doli Doli
17. You Must Love Me
18. Get Stupidinterlude
19. 4 Minutes
20. Like A Prayer
21. Frozen / Open Your Heart
22. Ray Of Light
23. Give It 2 Me

Now Bartboy, do the math and tell me the % of this setlist you consider NEW music.

[Edited 7/21/10 10:59am]

thepope2the9s said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Always the same excuses. Then explain Madonna playing 80% NEW MUSIC on each of her tours.

How do you define NEW music? like from her most recent album?

Just wondering cuz this is her setlist from last year

Madonna Concert at Estadio Vicente Calderon, Madrid, Spain Setlist on July 23, 2009

1. Candy Shop
2. Beat Goes On
3. Human Nature
4. Vogue
5. Die Another Dayinterlude
6. Into The Groove
7. Holiday / Celebration
8. Dress You Up
9. She's Not Me
10. Music
11. Rain / Here Comes The Rain Againinterlude
12. Devil Wouldn't Recognize You
13. Spanish Lesson
14. Miles Away
15. La Isla Bonita / Lela Pala Tute
16. Doli Doli
17. You Must Love Me
18. Get Stupidinterlude
19. 4 Minutes
20. Like A Prayer
21. Frozen / Open Your Heart
22. Ray Of Light
23. Give It 2 Me

Now Bartboy, do the math and tell me the % of this setlist you consider NEW music.

[Edited 7/21/10 10:59am]

SEE! I knew I wasn't reading things. The songs in bold are the "newer songs".

[Edited 7/21/10 11:01am]