This musical genius has done it all. He's been at the top, the middle, the bottom, back on top... so what does he have to prove now? Since his journey into a more spiritual quest, all he asks from his fans is perhaps listen to his message. He sings of Love. He sings of God. If you do not believe in either of those things, that is your choice. For those of us who get into what he is saying, and how he is saying it, we'll continue to support him.

It is senseless to go back and forth at one another on here over the silliest things. Someone being called an idiot for expressing their liking of certain songs. It makes no sense. I am old... 42, lol... and I am enjoying this guy's music like I did when I first bought his first album. He inspires me to become a better person, and a better musician/writer. Prince does not have to be cutting edge (in other's opinions). He does not need to sound more like anyone else on the top 40 list on radio. Forget the internet being dead, I think music today is dead. Justin Bieber?? Lady Gaga?? I respect that they get theirs, but I can't get into it.

This is just an opinion, and would like to know what others think on this topic. Does Prince owe any one of us anything? Does he have to prove anything to us? Or can we just sit back, purchase new music or not, and just cruise along? Thanks, Richard.

I've been saying that for years on the org. P's done it all. He has nothing left to prove to me or anyone. If he were to retire tommorow (yeah right) I would be cool with it. There's plenty of other great music out there.

Nice strat by the way.

I agree with you Purpracer2, for real...

Preach.

I like your positive stand, but I disagree with you.

Every time Prince is realeasing another new album he has to proove he still can make something interesting.

"20Ten" is a good and solid, but - not - excellent album, imo. 7 or 8 out of 10.

To say Prince has nothing to proove sound boring to me, like he could give up his career and everything would be just OK.

I hope Prince still has 10 to 12 albums in him before he rests his career, some future good albums, but maybe not excellent.. he does not seem to have that in him no more. That part seemed to be over loong time ago. It's been 15 years already, since the excellent Gold Experience. What has come after was sometimes good, but also a lot of average albums.

i never thought had anything 2 prove 2 anybody where ever he goes musically is his choice u cant please everybody and every cd he puts out i enjoy so i dont complain

He sure doesn't have anything to prove so he needs to stop trying to prove something. He has a huge loyal fanbase that buys every single album on the day of it's release so he needs to stop trying to prove that he can win over these no taste listeners that like current mainstream music and stop putting songs on his albums that he thinks will attract them.

vainandy said:

He sure doesn't have anything to prove so he needs to stop trying to prove something. He has a huge loyal fanbase that buys every single album on the day of it's release so he needs to stop trying to prove that he can win over these no taste listeners that like current mainstream music and stop putting songs on his albums that he thinks will attract them.

U really need to listen 2 20ten

minneapolisFunq said:

vainandy said:

He sure doesn't have anything to prove so he needs to stop trying to prove something. He has a huge loyal fanbase that buys every single album on the day of it's release so he needs to stop trying to prove that he can win over these no taste listeners that like current mainstream music and stop putting songs on his albums that he thinks will attract them.

U really need to listen 2 20ten

Just waiting on it to be released. You know, the bitch thinks he's from overseas now releasing stuff over there first.

vainandy said:

minneapolisFunq said:

U really need to listen 2 20ten

Just waiting on it to be released. You know, the bitch thinks he's from overseas now releasing stuff over there first.

I know it's still July but I don't know if he even plans to distribute the album here anytime soon.

i agree, he doesnt have anything to prove as a musician.

bieber and gaga dont make it onto my radar much, except as a big red flashing warning signal lol

the music industry has de-evolved into the by-product of vanity and greed.

i think some of the discussions here are productive and others aren't, but i respect other people's right to an opinion.

overall, Prince's music is something i always enjoy, regardless of his shoddy business deals and spiritual hypocrisy.

Nope once u did it all u do now iz flow!

of course he has nothing to prove.

that doesn't stop me from wishing he'd put out quality product.

he sings about a bit more than love and god. I believe in both those, and still think 20ten and Lotusflower kinda stink like mothballs.

i dig it when someone thinks otherwise. sometimes it inspires me to take another listen.

if anyone calls me an idiot in the process, they lost the debate. that's just a no brainer.

cruise away, no one can stop you.

Purpracer2 said:

This musical genius has done it all. He's been at the top, the middle, the bottom, back on top... so what does he have to prove now? Since his journey into a more spiritual quest, all he asks from his fans is perhaps listen to his message. He sings of Love. He sings of God. If you do not believe in either of those things, that is your choice. For those of us who get into what he is saying, and how he is saying it, we'll continue to support him.

It is senseless to go back and forth at one another on here over the silliest things. Someone being called an idiot for expressing their liking of certain songs. It makes no sense. I am old... 42, lol... and I am enjoying this guy's music like I did when I first bought his first album. He inspires me to become a better person, and a better musician/writer. Prince does not have to be cutting edge (in other's opinions). He does not need to sound more like anyone else on the top 40 list on radio. Forget the internet being dead, I think music today is dead. Justin Bieber?? Lady Gaga?? I respect that they get theirs, but I can't get into it.

This is just an opinion, and would like to know what others think on this topic. Does Prince owe any one of us anything? Does he have to prove anything to us? Or can we just sit back, purchase new music or not, and just cruise along? Thanks, Richard.

Nice Post Purpracer2.

Nice post. Nice to see someone with some common sense and mature perspective.

vainandy said:

minneapolisFunq said:

U really need to listen 2 20ten

Just waiting on it to be released. You know, the bitch thinks he's from overseas now releasing stuff over there first.

u can get it on the web u know

Prince Has Nothing To Prove
Amen! been there done that.

I respect your opinion, but I disagree. So much of Prince's marketing and publicity stunts practically shout the opposite. I think, at the very least, he would like to prove that he's somehow relevant to today's music scene. He's been trying desperately to prove that with tracks on recent years' releases -- Lolita, Life o' the Party, Incense and Candles, Laydown, to name some.

I think, from the snippets I've heard, 20Ten might be an improvement in releasing a consistent package of catchy tunes. But I don't think it is necessarily great songwriting or (despite the familiar, trademark production/sound) necessarily a return to hitmaking form.

ThreadBare said:

I respect your opinion, but I disagree. So much of Prince's marketing and publicity stunts practically shout the opposite. I think, at the very least, he would like to prove that he's somehow relevant to today's music scene. He's been trying desperately to prove that with tracks on recent years' releases -- Lolita, Life o' the Party, Incense and Candles, Laydown, to name some.

I think, from the snippets I've heard, 20Ten might be an improvement in releasing a consistent package of catchy tunes. But I don't think it is necessarily great songwriting or (despite the familiar, trademark production/sound) necessarily a return to hitmaking form.

Prince aint had a hit since TMBGITW and not because he hasnt written any songs that should have been hits. He is not part of the mainstream record industry by choice. The hits you hear on radio are hits because they are part of the system, not necessarily because of thier relevance or quality.

thepope2the9s said:

ThreadBare said:

I respect your opinion, but I disagree. So much of Prince's marketing and publicity stunts practically shout the opposite. I think, at the very least, he would like to prove that he's somehow relevant to today's music scene. He's been trying desperately to prove that with tracks on recent years' releases -- Lolita, Life o' the Party, Incense and Candles, Laydown, to name some.

I think, from the snippets I've heard, 20Ten might be an improvement in releasing a consistent package of catchy tunes. But I don't think it is necessarily great songwriting or (despite the familiar, trademark production/sound) necessarily a return to hitmaking form.

Prince aint had a hit since TMBGITW and not because he hasnt written any songs that should have been hits. He is not part of the mainstream record industry by choice. The hits you hear on radio are hits because they are part of the system, not necessarily because of thier relevance or quality.

So, Grammy nods, award show duets with Beyonce, participating in BET honors, AI cameos, Target promotions, Leno, Ebony & Jet and similar situations are representative of someone distancing himself from the mainstream record industry?

How do you reconcile your position with the kinds of things I mention?

ThreadBare said:

thepope2the9s said:

Prince aint had a hit since TMBGITW and not because he hasnt written any songs that should have been hits. He is not part of the mainstream record industry by choice. The hits you hear on radio are hits because they are part of the system, not necessarily because of thier relevance or quality.

So, Grammy nods, award show duets with Beyonce, participating in BET honors, AI cameos, Target promotions, Leno, Ebony & Jet and similar situations are representative of someone distancing himself from the mainstream record industry?

How do you reconcile your position with the kinds of things I mention?

I don't think anyone can reconcile it actually.

Rave Un2 THe Joy Fantastic was a tour de force of hit-making desperation culminating in epic FAIL. He signed a 'CONtract' with Clive Davis, appeared on MTV's Music Awards to introduce TLC, appeared on TRL, appeared on multiple talk shows and TV spots---shit, he even recruited every 'in' person he could to the project (though he buried their asses in the mix ). Even the lyrics on TGRES ("2gether we make the remix a big seller!") brought to light his intentions and desire to spawn a hit.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with going commercial, in my opinion so long as the product that's being sold is solid.

But, more often than not, Prince post 2000 has been aiming towards a commercial market--at this stage in his career, given his lifestyle, I'd say it's a safe bet he sort of needs to.

If Prince has nothing to prove then why does he find it a necessity to do things to prove he can sell? If he knew he had nothing to prove, he can just put it out of stores, get an advance pay for live shows and be settled like that and hope people will like it and if not well enxt album. In a way you can say he has done un-commercial albums but he has since 1999 aimed for commercial responses and when he does, he rants about how overrated it is. He's still proving he can make headlines if anything.

Purpracer2 said:

I think music today is dead. Justin Bieber?? Lady Gaga?? I respect that they get theirs, but I can't get into it.

I know this wasn't the cruz of your post, but this is nonsense. I don't like Bieber or Gaga either, but there's plenty of great music out there, if you're willing to look for something other than what's spoonfed to you via the radio.

... as a fan of the musical genius known as Prince Rogers Nelson, my man has nothing else to prove. I just love how every year or so a new album, a world tour or tour. I'm trying to keep it fresh so that I don't wear it out (the experience) of the music. I've heard 20Ten a lot, a lot, a lot ... LoL

You are so right, he has nothing to prove. Nobody does. We should all just sit on the couch, turn on the tube and let the world pass us by.

I'm glad a TRUE FAN cleared that all up for us hateful few.

I agree he has nothing to prove.... So why are you trying to prove he has nothing to prove?

interesting phrase "nothing to prove" - or "something to prove"

i just cant figure out what, or to whom?

earth is a pretty small planet compared with the whole universe

are we caught up in a game of some kind? whoever proves the most, wins?

wins what?

robinhood said:

interesting phrase "nothing to prove" - or "something to prove"

i just cant figure out what, or to whom?

earth is a pretty small planet compared with the whole universe

are we caught up in a game of some kind? whoever proves the most, wins?

wins what?

I know!

Wins another round of proving it again.

Prince needs to prove that he can still make good music and that's he's not burned out. The general public thinks of Prince as a washed up 80's pop star. He needs a solid hit, and then a retirement.

ThreadBare said:

thepope2the9s said:

Prince aint had a hit since TMBGITW and not because he hasnt written any songs that should have been hits. He is not part of the mainstream record industry by choice. The hits you hear on radio are hits because they are part of the system, not necessarily because of thier relevance or quality.

So, Grammy nods, award show duets with Beyonce, participating in BET honors, AI cameos, Target promotions, Leno, Ebony & Jet and similar situations are representative of someone distancing himself from the mainstream record industry?

How do you reconcile your position with the kinds of things I mention?

Was he signed to any major label during all of those appearances/awards?

Was there a label promoting his releases or pushing his songs on radio?

He had a brief stint in 99 with Clive, but nothing since. He is independent.

That is how I reconcile my position.