godswill said:

Vendetta1 said:

I would like to thank Spinlight and Alamine for their posts to this thread.

Ebony should be ashamed of themselves for lying about the content of the article. Judging from what others have said, I have no desire to read the article for myself.

I know this will not be a popular opinion and those who know me or know of me know I don't give a damn but:

For many years Prince gave less than a damn for a black identity. In another Ebony interview years ago, he even said he was not black but a mixture of things. I've said before and will say again when I read that: what exactly is wrong with being black?

Now there is some huge enlightment he's gone through the last ten years ago and we are supposed to applaud that? He cares about the state of black music and artists' rights all of a sudden?

Will he ever take responsibility to signing his own rights away? Did he do it to get the music out or for cash?

Like it's been mentioned before, he's sitting on a ton of stuff the fans woul gladly buy so can e possibly blame that on "the man" as well?

Oh and for him to be super black guy all of a sudden, I have yet to see a black woman on his arm. Yeah, yeah, yeah everyone is free to date whomever they choose and everyone has a preference but it is at least very curious to me.

And Prince doesn't like "yes" men? Like RD would say: GTFOOHWTBS!!!

Well, I just want to ask: Why do you think he doesn't have black women over him. Iagree with your post but I'm also very curious.

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It is apparent to me that he is not attracted to black women. This is my opinion. I probably wil never know why he doesn't date us. It just makes me giggle my ass off to hear him spouting some of the BS he spouts like he just discovered he was baclk or like he just discovered the record industry was fucked up.

He and others have more than enough money to start an all-black record company if that's what they want to do. I think it's easier in this case to find someone else to blame.

Vendetta1 said:

godswill said:

Well, I just want to ask: Why do you think he doesn't have black women over him. Iagree with your post but I'm also very curious.

[Edited 6/13/10 18:54pm]

It is apparent to me that he is not attracted to black women. This is my opinion. I probably wil never know why he doesn't date us. It just makes me giggle my ass off to hear him spouting some of the BS he spouts like he just discovered he was baclk or like he just discovered the record industry was fucked up.

He and others have more than enough money to start an all-black record company if that's what they want to do. I think it's easier in this case to find someone else to blame.

Vendetta1 said:

godswill said:

Well, I just want to ask: Why do you think he doesn't have black women over him. Iagree with your post but I'm also very curious.

[Edited 6/13/10 18:54pm]

It is apparent to me that he is not attracted to black women. This is my opinion. I probably wil never know why he doesn't date us. It just makes me giggle my ass off to hear him spouting some of the BS he spouts like he just discovered he was baclk or like he just discovered the record industry was fucked up.

He and others have more than enough money to start an all-black record company if that's what they want to do. I think it's easier in this case to find someone else to blame.

You know what, you are so totally right. I never looked at it that way. Its a shame though. Because us black folk can be great lovers:lol:

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This thread is more entertaining than the damn article/interview

errant said:

2elijah said:

He does mention that he does not favor "Yes" people and pretty much respect those who are honest in their opinions.

Took that right outta my mind.

Im like, "We're really supposed to believe you?" Ha!

Classic Prince bullshit!

So to summarize, the defense and the prosecution have rested, the bailiff didn't show up for work and we have at least one individual in the Witness Protection Program...we'd better get this case to the jury before I have to declare a mistrial!

The good news is the jury will not be sequestered...good night all,

Vendetta1 said:

I would like to thank Spinlight and Alamine for their posts to this thread.

Ebony should be ashamed of themselves for lying about the content of the article. Judging from what others have said, I have no desire to read the article for myself.

I know this will not be a popular opinion and those who know me or know of me know I don't give a damn but:

For many years Prince gave less than a damn for a black identity. In another Ebony interview years ago, he even said he was not black but a mixture of things. I've said before and will say again when I read that: what exactly is wrong with being black?

Now there is some huge enlightment he's gone through the last ten years ago and we are supposed to applaud that? He cares about the state of black music and artists' rights all of a sudden?

Will he ever take responsibility to signing his own rights away? Did he do it to get the music out or for cash?

Like it's been mentioned before, he's sitting on a ton of stuff the fans woul gladly buy so can e possibly blame that on "the man" as well?

Oh and for him to be super black guy all of a sudden, I have yet to see a black woman on his arm. Yeah, yeah, yeah everyone is free to date whomever they choose and everyone has a preference but it is at least very curious to me.

And Prince doesn't like "yes" men? Like RD would say: GTFOOHWTBS!!!

This is one thing that drives me batshit crazy. Does Prince really think we believe that, at no time between 1977 and 1993, he was ever made aware of exactly what those contracts said? That he wasn't told explicitly that Warner Brothers was buying his work from him - masters, rights and all? I mean...seriously, dude?

He thinks saying what he does makes WB look evil...when all it really does is make him look stupid.

Genesia said:

Vendetta1 said:

I would like to thank Spinlight and Alamine for their posts to this thread.

Ebony should be ashamed of themselves for lying about the content of the article. Judging from what others have said, I have no desire to read the article for myself.

I know this will not be a popular opinion and those who know me or know of me know I don't give a damn but:

For many years Prince gave less than a damn for a black identity. In another Ebony interview years ago, he even said he was not black but a mixture of things. I've said before and will say again when I read that: what exactly is wrong with being black?

Now there is some huge enlightment he's gone through the last ten years ago and we are supposed to applaud that? He cares about the state of black music and artists' rights all of a sudden?

Will he ever take responsibility to signing his own rights away? Did he do it to get the music out or for cash?

Like it's been mentioned before, he's sitting on a ton of stuff the fans woul gladly buy so can e possibly blame that on "the man" as well?

Oh and for him to be super black guy all of a sudden, I have yet to see a black woman on his arm. Yeah, yeah, yeah everyone is free to date whomever they choose and everyone has a preference but it is at least very curious to me.

And Prince doesn't like "yes" men? Like RD would say: GTFOOHWTBS!!!

This is one thing that drives me batshit crazy. Does Prince really think we believe that, at no time between 1977 and 1993, he was ever made aware of exactly what those contracts said? That he wasn't told explicitly that Warner Brothers was buying his work from him - masters, rights and all? I mean...seriously, dude?

He thinks saying what he does makes WB look evil...when all it really does is make him look stupid.

That's been a sticking point with me for years and makes his entire campaign to make WB look evil look ridiculous. That last contract he signed with WB in the early 90's was MASSIVE. They even made him a VP as a vanity title. And instead of negotiating control over his catalog, he took the money and ran. It wasn't until after he'd blown that enormous check on bullshit like Carmen Electra and dozens of videos that wouldn't be released (hell, even some of the songs didn't get released), that he THEN starts pissing and moaning about how evil WB were and how important it was to own your masters and how he's their slave. Meanwhile, at the same time Prince was blowing through that wad of cash he asked for, big name acts like REM, Metallica, U2 and others, were taking pay cuts on new contracts for those exact same rights to their older work.

I guess that's what you get for firing your manager, agent, and lawyers right before contract negotiations and you've only got your eyes on one thing: $$$$$$$$$.

I bought Ebony with Prince on cover, about an hour or so ago. and U know what,

Prince side stepped every single question, of course doesn't he allways.

Prince says something about FATHERHOOD, MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.

I wonder???????

maybe he is trying 2 say something with out saying anything, but that is Prince 4 U.

but all N all. it was pretty cool 2 C prince on a cover of a Magazine for once.

[Edited 6/13/10 22:24pm]

2elijah said:

WaterInYourBath said:

Seriously? I could answer that question with MAJOR examples, but I'm not going to. This is about Prince, who had none, until he became a slave and hired Nona for a video no one knows about ("Love Sign").

And to "owe" is just a figure of speech referring to all the thousands of Black people who were fans of and supported this man but couldn't get a role in his videos/movies unless they were implicitly or explicitly made fun of or cast back in some way. Excluding Morris Day who could be classified as an actual comedian and Monte Moir who doesn't ever speak, The Time became stereotypical (male chauvinistic) clowns. Mark Brown didn't get one line in "Purple Rain." Jerome Benton, another clown character, in UTCM. The one woman Prince runs away from in terror in UTCM was Black. Cat was displayed as a desparate girl on some stimulant-drug who could never get what she wanted. T.C. Ellis, Robin Power, and Tony M. were more ludicrous clowns, and even worse, untalented ones, whose only point was to show Prince's disrespect for Hip-Hop (before he pathetically tried to become a part of the genre, with MORE Black jokes as the imagery). All other Black folks were cast in the back and unseen or shown for a second (choirs, the two excellent back-up singers, musicians). You don't think Spike Lee, of all people, was aware of that? Besides, that quote was just my own conjecture. Spike probably didn't even think that, but I wouldn't put it past him....

I've discussed this several times in these types of threads, and people still find ways to defend him. No, Prince doesn't have to "prove" anything, so, he should just stick to his usual racially-ambiguous imagery, and cease using his "color" as the reason why people in "the industry" do him wrong. He wasn't thinking about being fair to anyone who was not his "color," so why is he complaining? I can't appreciate when he starts preaching "Blackness" out of the blue, 'cause the only times he's shown that in the past was when he was making jokes or when he needed something to help his career.

I'll be honest with you, UTCM in my opinion, was not one of my favorite movies, because that movie was just too minstrel for me, and I've mentioned that before in another thread. So I can't disagree with you on some of the roles played in that movie. I just found it quite silly and minstrel. It does make one question why some of the actors/artists agreed to take the roles they did, which in my opinion, helped to contribute to the stereotypical images. Of course the first answer would be because they wanted to "get paid", but at the same time, contributing to the stereotypical sh*t doesn't quite help with positive images and progress, it just feeds it.

I 'm well aware that Spike Lee saw the problem, and he did have every right to question it, as there were other artists doing the same exact thing, but then I can't help but also question Spike for pointing fingers at others, while he turns around and do the same thing he complained about. It's quite obvious you have much respect for Spike Lee given the tone of your post, and I can truly respect that. I appreciate both Spike and Prince and don't see neither as perfect human beings, but just like some folks are questionable about some of things Prince did and allowed to happen in the past, I'm questionable about others that sort of played into that along the way as well. Even if we may not agree on all that's said, I still appreciate and respect your input.

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Thanks, I respect your input as well. And I get what you mean about checking for contradiction. Like you said, how can Spike say one thing about someone, but then do the same thing himself? That's a completely logical thought, and that's why I asked the same question about Prince. If Spike had done or turned around and started doing the same things he was questioning/reprimanding Prince about, I'd totally agree with you. But, he has not, so as it stands, Prince is the one who is hypocritical regarding this particular topic, not Spike.

Whenever Prince starts talking about his "color struggle" and starts throwing Black history at people, I wonder how a panel of "Black Experience Experts" (professors, historians, ministers, politicians, filmmakers, other older musicians) would view his position and discuss this issue with him. Tavis Smiley and Cornell West don't count since they're his friends and fans. I'm curious to see Prince in a public discussion with other famous and studious "non-yes" people, lol, just to see how he would explain his past actions/decisions if questioned. I have no idea how he would handle that, if he could at all. That's probably why he's always so vague.

rap said:

How many photos are there and are they only of Prince?

7 if U count the cover, awsome number huh. Strange but true.

babynoz said:

rap said:

How many photos are there and are they only of Prince?

There are five pics, plus the cover...Prince only.

7 where R U getting 5 pics. did U look at all the pages in the magazine, look carefully.

Spinlight said:

Prince can liken himself to Ike Turner all he wants. Ike Turner was, amongst many things, a talented man whose troubles surmounted his creativity and his business savvy - thus ruining not only his music career, but his marriages. Do we, as fans with a bit of insight into Prince, consider him of the same troubled calibre? Maybe. He's spiritually conflicted, to say the least, but whether or not his spiritual eccentricities owe to his malformed vision of slavery and CONtracts is - i guess - interpreted by the reader. Thus, some people will excuse him for his outlandish claims and take them as gospel because... Why? He's black and has been repeatedly shunned from the music industry either by the companies themselves or the music buying public (who just doesn't want his current music)?

Prince was given multiple opportunities to rule the music industry with an iron fist and every single time he was given this opportunity, he squandered it in greed, naivete, and professional onanism. He could not bear the burden of really contributing to artists under his control because his ego and his deranged sense of entitlement is extremely off-putting. Humility is something decades-lost on Prince. It is because of this arrogance that has many people have succumbed to the Bizarro World Midas Touch (aka, when he touches their career, it dies). It is also because of this that he has suffered so much in the music industry.

Exec after exec has come forward, producers, engineers, agents, bandmembers, dancers, and other people attached to his entourage at one time or another have all said the same thing. Prince is a genius when it comes to crafting songs, but he is willfully negligent when it comes to his own career and the interests of those he employs, much less his posterity or his dreadfully loyal fanbase.

Stop giving him excuses to rely on. His assertion that Yes Men are toxic is laughable at best. In fact, he has surrounded himself with nothing but Yes Men for the better part of 20 years now and it has slowly eroded his legacy. He will, eventually (if not already) dissipate into the annals of rock history as a genius-gone-wrong who had the world in his hands for a good 10 years and proceeded to pluck the petals away one by one until there was nothing left but his own distorted kingdom of sand.

You can praise him for his humble status at the moment all you want. He isn't humble, though. His spirituality is vanity. His studies of history and henceforth his retelling of it is ironic and hollow. For someone who recites black history like a copy editor at News of the World, he certainly raked in the cash hand over fist while those White Men Who Enslaved Him bent over backwards to accommodate his greedy demands and outlandish threats.

All the while, in his house he lays dreaming of being a paragon of black enterprise as his back catalog rots in antiquity. A fresh, rejuvenated SOTT? Never. A deluxe edition of LoveSexy? Not on his watch. Without his superfluous and insipid remixes and remakes of his torch songs, Prince will have nothing to do with those albums... That is, unless he can entice you to go to his concerts (which become more and more vaudeville as the years go by), by saying this is the last time he will perform them. Or he will hum, plink on the piano, or strum a few bars of a song that is entirely incongruous with his current "religion" just so the hair on your arms stand up in anticipation before chugging into a full version of "Pass the Peas" or "The Christ".... Barf.

Thanks for the interview with Ebony, P. No, really. We needed another dissertation on black poverty and how black people are/were/will be/can be/should be/would be from the mouth of someone who can give away a half assed album for free with a newspaper and still make 2 million dollars while the US government forecloses on the houses of artists like T-Boz (you know, your favorite band, right?) and others.

Physician, heal thyself.

Well said.

babynoz said:

So to summarize, the defense and the prosecution have rested, the bailiff didn't show up for work and we have at least one individual in the Witness Protection Program...we'd better get this case to the jury before I have to declare a mistrial!

The good news is the jury will not be sequestered...good night all,

I only have one bullet in my gun and I can't decide who to use it on - the defense, the prosecution or myself.

Onthereal said:

WaterInYourBath said:

Seriously? I could answer that question with MAJOR examples, but I'm not going to. This is about Prince, who had none, until he became a slave and hired Nona for a video no one knows about ("Love Sign").

And to "owe" is just a figure of speech referring to all the thousands of Black people who were fans of and supported this man but couldn't get a role in his videos/movies unless they were implicitly or explicitly made fun of or cast back in some way. Excluding Morris Day who could be classified as an actual comedian and Monte Moir who doesn't ever speak, The Time became stereotypical (male chauvinistic) clowns. Mark Brown didn't get one line in "Purple Rain." Jerome Benton, another clown character, in UTCM. The one woman Prince runs away from in terror in UTCM was Black. Cat was displayed as a desparate girl on some stimulant-drug who could never get what she wanted. T.C. Ellis, Robin Power, and Tony M. were more ludicrous clowns, and even worse, untalented ones, whose only point was to show Prince's disrespect for Hip-Hop (before he pathetically tried to become a part of the genre, with MORE Black jokes as the imagery). All other Black folks were cast in the back and unseen or shown for a second (choirs, the two excellent back-up singers, musicians). You don't think Spike Lee, of all people, was aware of that? Besides, that quote was just my own conjecture. Spike probably didn't even think that, but I wouldn't put it past him....

I've discussed this several times in these types of threads, and people still find ways to defend him. No, Prince doesn't have to "prove" anything, so, he should just stick to his usual racially-ambiguous imagery, and cease using his "color" as the reason why people in "the industry" do him wrong. He wasn't thinking about being fair to anyone who was not his "color," so why is he complaining? I can't appreciate when he starts preaching "Blackness" out of the blue, 'cause the only times he's shown that in the past was when he was making jokes or when he needed something to help his career.

Exactly how I saw it. Prince can fool some people but I grew up around brothers with his mentality. He was in love with the White man (including his White women), he wrote some of his best songs during those days and now he wants to be Soul Brother #1? Who is he trying to impress? I think his Bolivian girlfriend.

Hmm....I don't know if Prince is in love with the White Man, LOL. He might be, but I think it's more like he's been in love with the non-Black image he perceives himself as being, but then only uses his actual ethnicity when he needs to in order to complain about something for his own benefit. I understand him speaking out against shady record companies, but leave his normally negated "Blackness" out of the argument and just speak about it in strictly non-racial business terms. Then what he's saying would be believable and wouldn't be viewed as being an affectation.

Genesia said:

errant said:

so did the interviewer bother to ask anything remotely interesting?

No.

and

sounds like they totally blew it.

NO, NO, And Nope, to funny. I am about to cry I laughed so hard.

2 touch on a Quote from Purple Rain the movie not the song,

Thats Fucked up what U did, I do not like it and well Prince.org fans don't like it either.

quote on quote.

well maybe just the first part of it, but U get the picture.

This in regarding the ebony so-called interview.

PRINCE WAS IN LOVE WITH HIS WHITE MAN!!! (AND HIS WHITE WOMAN!)

This is my second favourite quote of this thread.

WaterInYourBath said:

and Monte Moir who doesn't ever speak

This is my 3rd!

[Edited 6/14/10 2:55am]

Vendetta1 said:

godswill said:

Well, I just want to ask: Why do you think he doesn't have black women over him. Iagree with your post but I'm also very curious.

[Edited 6/13/10 18:54pm]

It is apparent to me that he is not attracted to black women. This is my opinion. I probably wil never know why he doesn't date us. It just makes me giggle my ass off to hear him spouting some of the BS he spouts like he just discovered he was baclk or like he just discovered the record industry was fucked up.

He and others have more than enough money to start an all-black record company if that's what they want to do. I think it's easier in this case to find someone else to blame.

Nona Gaye would disagree with you. And Prince had her F***ing him For Tracks on one occasion when they dated.

If Prince was NEVER attracted to black women at all, then why the hell would he allow Nona Gaye, Troy Beyer, & (especially) Cat to be close to him at all?!?

And I still think Larry & Prince have some personal beef with jewish people and/or zionists. Remember the outragous story of what went down when Bobby Z was at one of their bible study discussions?

From how Prince was talking about the negatives of the music industry, you have to wonder if it's true that he really is trying too far to be (as Ice Cube used to say) true to the game.

Just saying.

TonyVanDam said:

For the sex of it?

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It's a really good thing 4 Prince, and 4 all of us, that there R so many psychologists, psychiatrists, sociologists, psychics, industry experts, and consiglieri on this board!

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[Edited 6/14/10 6:29am]

jgreco7 said:

I'm perplexed about this "bopping with the kind of cool that can drop the temperature of a room." Does the writer mean he walks with a limp due to his hip? This Ebony was not cool.

WaterInYourBath said:

2elijah said:

I'll be honest with you, UTCM in my opinion, was not one of my favorite movies, because that movie was just too minstrel for me, and I've mentioned that before in another thread. So I can't disagree with you on some of the roles played in that movie. I just found it quite silly and minstrel. It does make one question why some of the actors/artists agreed to take the roles they did, which in my opinion, helped to contribute to the stereotypical images. Of course the first answer would be because they wanted to "get paid", but at the same time, contributing to the stereotypical sh*t doesn't quite help with positive images and progress, it just feeds it.

I 'm well aware that Spike Lee saw the problem, and he did have every right to question it, as there were other artists doing the same exact thing, but then I can't help but also question Spike for pointing fingers at others, while he turns around and do the same thing he complained about. It's quite obvious you have much respect for Spike Lee given the tone of your post, and I can truly respect that. I appreciate both Spike and Prince and don't see neither as perfect human beings, but just like some folks are questionable about some of things Prince did and allowed to happen in the past, I'm questionable about others that sort of played into that along the way as well. Even if we may not agree on all that's said, I still appreciate and respect your input.

[Edited 6/13/10 18:01pm]

Thanks, I respect your input as well. And I get what you mean about checking for contradiction. Like you said, how can Spike say one thing about someone, but then do the same thing himself? That's a completely logical thought, and that's why I asked the same question about Prince. If Spike had done or turned around and started doing the same things he was questioning/reprimanding Prince about, I'd totally agree with you. But, he has not, so as it stands, Prince is the one who is hypocritical regarding this particular topic, not Spike.

Whenever Prince starts talking about his "color struggle" and starts throwing Black history at people, I wonder how a panel of "Black Experience Experts" (professors, historians, ministers, politicians, filmmakers, other older musicians) would view his position and discuss this issue with him. Tavis Smiley and Cornell West don't count since they're his friends and fans. I'm curious to see Prince in a public discussion with other famous and studious "non-yes" people, lol, just to see how he would explain his past actions/decisions if questioned. I have no idea how he would handle that, if he could at all. That's probably why he's always so vague.

I hear you. Also, the thing is, there's been complaints from some black female fans, including Spike's as you mentioned, that Prince didn't have darker-skinned or black women, if any at all, in his videos. Somehow, I'm kind of thankful for that, Reason I say this, is he can't be accused of the exploitation of them, like some of the black artists today, who do exactly that--exploit black women in their videos.

Example: Many rappers and r&b singers from the mid 90s, have black women of all shades in their videos, gyrating and grinding their pelvises and ass cheeks, with bandaids for panties, across the viewers' tv screen, with their breasts smacking the artists in their faces, in the videos they agreed to dance in to help promote the artists.

So now that you have some black women in these videos, where it was the request and demand of black women, who demanded they see their "likeness" so-to-speak in black artists videos. You had some so-called "brothas who were down" who were rappers and r&b artists, who did in fact have many black women of various hues appearing in their videos, and these same black women, were dancing next to these same "down brothas", while those "down brothas" referred to black women as "bitches and hos".

It seems it was and is okay for those so-called "down brothas" to promote disrespect and hate towards black women, while they were..uh...doing it just to get paid, yet still was rewarded their "black pass" and embraced by the black community, who went out and supported these "down brothas" purchasing their music. Yet many of these "down brotha rappers and r&b artists" exploited and disrespected the images of our mothers, sisters, aunts, grandmothers and daughters by calling them "b*tches and hos". Wow, so much for progress...Umgawa Black Power!

Now were/are those images the role models and examples we want for our daughters, nieces and other young girls to see "themselves" as? Should we give those rappers/r&b artists who did/do this a pass? See we have to be very careful what we demand because we may just get what we want, and not exactly the way we want it, when we succeed in getting it. Does anyone here have proof that Prince exploited Black women, in particular, like that, in any of his videos, when in fact , the majority of those particular women were non-existent in his videos? Not saying at one time he wasn't part of the game of presenting sexual images of women, but in particular, Black women, since he is on trial with the org about his "brotha man pass" according to orger "Babynoz".

[Edited 6/14/10 8:45am]

Come on now, in 1984 Prince allowed the writers to have a Black woman thrown in a garbage can and he ran from one in Under the Cherry Moon. I highly doubt Prince cares about the exploitation of Black women.

Probably one of the most boring Prince interviews Ive ever read.

And why the heck did he pull the Race card AGAIN?!?

Talking about Whites owning Black music. Come on Prince..nobody is buying that crap from you. Never did, never will.

Nobody is twisting anyone's arm to sign a contract. No more than WB twisted yours to sign the big deal of 1992.

And the fact that it may be a white executive or the owner of the company may be white is neither here nor there.

Get off the racial trip youre own and stick to music. Just like Rick James said years ago... You dont even wanna be black. You only play the "black" card when you have something to whine about.

Black music is probably the most dominate music genre there is right now. And if they dont own their own music, well, that has nothing to do with the color of their skin.

Im sure Quincy Jones and P diddy own some white artists music, but do you see any of them coming forward and crying about it? Nope

Get back to the Prince of the 80's...meaning...the one that never talked. Because this crap is old. The era when race was an issue in record deals ended a long long time ago!

Did anyone catch that the article gave the impression that Bria actually sang while the Ebony folks were at Paisley Park. I mean...sang in front of people other than Prince?

And what makes me think this is absolute bullshit?

Onthereal said:

Come on now, in 1984 Prince allowed the writers to have a Black woman thrown in a garbage can.

She's black?

NouveauDance said:

Onthereal said:

Come on now, in 1984 Prince allowed the writers to have a Black woman thrown in a garbage can.

She's black?

That's what I was wondering. I thought she was Hispanic.

Genesia said:

Did anyone catch that the article gave the impression that Bria actually sang while the Ebony folks were at Paisley Park. I mean...sang in front of people other than Prince?

And what makes me think this is absolute bullshit?

yep, like the rest of the article it's all maybe or maybe not. Bria may have sang with the 3 girls but the chance of her singing a solo are slim. With Shelby J and her strong voice right beside Brias kittenish one, who would know how good or bad Bria sounded anyway? I will always wish that Prince gave the Elixer CD to Shelby J. It's really unfortunate that the man's choice of who to promote is often not based on talent.