DesireeNevermind said:

WaterInYourBath said:

Nope, it couldn't have. The Black girl was definitely chosen, but clearly not for the reasons you're stating, lol, at least not in my opinion. Just look at how he's acting towards her in that video....She's another one for the prosecution, lol.

It would have been better to support your position by using the Black woman he chose to play his leading lady for the "Greatest Romance" video, during his slave years. Yes, she was shown as a beautiful and alluring figure, and he was surprisingly courting and seductive with her in that video. But again, like "Love Sign," no one besides us has ever seen that video before. But "Black Sweat?" When he was free again? Like all his videos in the 80s and early 90s, that lameness was everywhere, LOL.

To this day, however, the only one that stumps me is Tamar. Talented singer or not, when she came on the scene, I didn't know what to make of that, since he didn't put her in the background or make fun of her in any way (like he usually would while being "free"). And now that she's totally disappeared and was immediately replaced, I still don't get it. But, she's one for the defense....I guess. ....

But don't you see each woman represented the lyrics to the songs. The girl from black sweat was this seductress introducing us to a new dance and she's too hot for even Prince to get close to ( rather he is too hot for us). GRES is more (IMO) the longing for a love over lust. I interpret the lyrics probably different than many...romance is also a short lived attraction and fascination between two people. In any case,,,these were two sistahs playing the lead/object of desire to Prince. They could have easily been played by non-black women and no one would say shit cuz supposedly this is what we're used to or this is what we demand and expect of the man.

I was never stumped by Tamar because to me she was like a flashback to Kim Upsher and Cat and even Susan Moonsie. She was that good looking scoop of chocolate ice cream amongst all the whip cream. He had her with the Twinz and also front and center. It was clear that she meant something to him...something personal and vice versa. For people to attack her the way they did...well that was like attacking Prince as well because she was his choice and she had talent. It would be one thing if she couldn't sing worth a damn but she could...her voice was quite palatable and so people chose to attack her based on her skin color . downright ugly. And um...she aint gone totally. We will see her again.

If that's the case, she's another one for the prosecution.

Kim Upsher (I forgot about her): Disrespected in Purple Rain.

Susan Moonsie: Thrown in the background of Vanity 6.

Cat: I explained her sad role already.

But let's say Tamar is still for the defense: So you're saying they were in a possible relationship? I've read that around here before, with people saying she was the reason Manuela left, but I never believed that. But looking at how she received his "girlfriend" spotlight upfront on tour during a "free" time when he wasn't acting as "Soul Brother #1" (LOL), you might be right. However....Tamar never got the usual girlfriend album release that she wanted and that was advertised (like Vanity, Susannah, Carmen, Mayte, Bria). I don't know how to explain that part.

WaterInYourBath said:

DesireeNevermind said:

But don't you see each woman represented the lyrics to the songs. The girl from black sweat was this seductress introducing us to a new dance and she's too hot for even Prince to get close to ( rather he is too hot for us). GRES is more (IMO) the longing for a love over lust. I interpret the lyrics probably different than many...romance is also a short lived attraction and fascination between two people. In any case,,,these were two sistahs playing the lead/object of desire to Prince. They could have easily been played by non-black women and no one would say shit cuz supposedly this is what we're used to or this is what we demand and expect of the man.

I was never stumped by Tamar because to me she was like a flashback to Kim Upsher and Cat and even Susan Moonsie. She was that good looking scoop of chocolate ice cream amongst all the whip cream. He had her with the Twinz and also front and center. It was clear that she meant something to him...something personal and vice versa. For people to attack her the way they did...well that was like attacking Prince as well because she was his choice and she had talent. It would be one thing if she couldn't sing worth a damn but she could...her voice was quite palatable and so people chose to attack her based on her skin color . downright ugly. And um...she aint gone totally. We will see her again.

If that's the case, she's another one for the prosecution.

Kim Upsher (I forgot about her): Disrespected in Purple Rain.

Susan Moonsie: Thrown in the background of Vanity 6.

Cat: I explained her sad role already.

But let's say Tamar is still for the defense: So you're saying they were in a possible relationship? I've read that around here before, with people saying she was the reason Manuela left, but I never believed that. But looking at how she received his "girlfriend" spotlight upfront on tour during a "free" time when he wasn't acting as "Soul Brother #1" (LOL), you might be right. However....Tamar never got the usual girlfriend album release that she wanted and that was advertised (like Vanity, Susannah, Carmen, Mayte, Bria). I don't know how to explain that part.

Prince was trying to get Tamar signed to a label...he was trying to make her independent from him which goes to show how much he believed in her talent. Vanity, Susannah, Carmen, Mayte and even Bria were all signed to Prince's label or packaged with his music which means there wasn't a whip cream's chance in Starbucks that those brawds were going to be able to make it without being directly associated with, marketed by and financed by Prince. Plus there was some personal stuff going on that i won't get into but Tamar could have played her hand a lot better IMO.

Susan chose to be in the background. Cat got caught up. Kim broke P's heart and she lucky she was even in the film PR to begin with.

Onthereal said:

I think he fancies them like we wouldn't believe. So many beautiful women, petite just like him. Could there be an Asian female inside of Prince? He said they discovered a female side in him--not me) or was it cosmic talk like he did in Ebony?

the girl inside him is Camille Theng Kwong Lei

PicklesMcMillan said:

Onthereal said:

I think he fancies them like we wouldn't believe. So many beautiful women, petite just like him. Could there be an Asian female inside of Prince? He said they discovered a female side in him--not me) or was it cosmic talk like he did in Ebony?

the girl inside him is Camille Theng Kwong Lei

Aw snap...do she do nails? I need a fill and a pedicure.

DesireeNevermind said:

WaterInYourBath said:

If that's the case, she's another one for the prosecution.

Kim Upsher (I forgot about her): Disrespected in Purple Rain.

Susan Moonsie: Thrown in the background of Vanity 6.

Cat: I explained her sad role already.

But let's say Tamar is still for the defense: So you're saying they were in a possible relationship? I've read that around here before, with people saying she was the reason Manuela left, but I never believed that. But looking at how she received his "girlfriend" spotlight upfront on tour during a "free" time when he wasn't acting as "Soul Brother #1" (LOL), you might be right. However....Tamar never got the usual girlfriend album release that she wanted and that was advertised (like Vanity, Susannah, Carmen, Mayte, Bria). I don't know how to explain that part.

Prince was trying to get Tamar signed to a label...he was trying to make her independent from him which goes to show how much he believed in her talent. Vanity, Susannah, Carmen, Mayte and even Bria were all signed to Prince's label or packaged with his music which means there wasn't a whip cream's chance in Starbucks that those brawds were going to be able to make it without being directly associated with, marketed by and financed by Prince. Plus there was some personal stuff going on that i won't get into but Tamar could have played her hand a lot better IMO.

Susan chose to be in the background. Cat got caught up. Kim broke P's heart and she lucky she was even in the film PR to begin with.

oh come on desiree you gotta give us the goods

Onthereal said:

So there's NO evidence of Prince dating an Asian woman? My God, somebody call the "no Asian woman" police. If a man like Prince has never dated an Asian woman my suspicion tells me he has a damn good reason why! I rest my case.

Wow, that's true. And the only Asian person I can think of that's performed with/for Prince was that one female keyboard player that was in concert with him in 2003. I forget her name. She was shown on camera playing in his band during the live performance of "Shhh" when he was in Hong Kong that year. I think she was Asian, but I'm not sure.

DesireeNevermind said:

PicklesMcMillan said:

the girl inside him is Camille Theng Kwong Lei

Aw snap...do she do nails? I need a fill and a pedicure.

yep and she'll wax your eyebrow for 10 dolla

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PicklesMcMillan said:

DesireeNevermind said:

Prince was trying to get Tamar signed to a label...he was trying to make her independent from him which goes to show how much he believed in her talent. Vanity, Susannah, Carmen, Mayte and even Bria were all signed to Prince's label or packaged with his music which means there wasn't a whip cream's chance in Starbucks that those brawds were going to be able to make it without being directly associated with, marketed by and financed by Prince. Plus there was some personal stuff going on that i won't get into but Tamar could have played her hand a lot better IMO.

Susan chose to be in the background. Cat got caught up. Kim broke P's heart and she lucky she was even in the film PR to begin with.

oh come on desiree you gotta give us the goods

Let's just say...she got a gift from Prince and she did not value it the way she should have.

PicklesMcMillan said:

DesireeNevermind said:

PicklesMcMillan said:

oh come on desiree you gotta give us the goods

Let's just say...she got a gift from Prince and she did not value it the way she should have.

come on desiree you know im stupid

i have no idea what that means

right now my minds in the gutter

im thinking he gave her the gift of vitamin D

SomewhereHereOnEarth said:

2elijah said:

I think you read it wrong. It was Prince that inserted (laughs) in that part of his response, not the Ebony staff..

no i didn't read it wrong...i guess i didn't put the question more clearly...so i'll ask again...

why did he put (laughs) when he's answering the question??

he couldn't have put LOL or HA HA??

i mean when i write out a letter i don't put Laughing...i put either LOL or HA HA.

it could've been more believeable (to me anyways) if he had put either or cuz that (laughs) is bothering me...i mean its not even in the present tense...it's in past tense...:/

That's not difficult to answer, it was obviously his individual choice to express it that way. No biggy

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Onthereal said:

PicklesMcMillan said:

the girl inside him is Camille Theng Kwong Lei

You nailed it! (no pun intended) You all are hilarious.

lol i feeling that pun was intended

DesireeNevermind said:

PicklesMcMillan said:

oh come on desiree you gotta give us the goods

Let's just say...she got a gift from Prince and she did not value it the way she should have.

Okay, Desiree, I think you should leave it at that my sis, don't want to see you get a C&D and it looks like some folks are going fishing for more.. So like orger Babynoz said, the thread went off the train track, so let's get back on it. So what about the interviewers description of Paisley Park, what did you think about it, and also when the Ebony guests were leaving Paisley Park and they said they wondered when Prince was going to release the new music they listened to while they were there?

babynoz said:

squirrelgrease said:

I only have one bullet in my gun and I can't decide who to use it on - the defense, the prosecution or myself.

You didn't even call in sick...hell, I got a hostile witness on my hands, not to mention poor Threadbare, (whose name had to be changed to protect his identity), and jury deliberations have degenrated, (predictably), into who P is sleeping with.

Save that one bullet...looks like the deliberations are going well into the night and somebody has to order the pizzas. We don't want a hung jury on our hands.

DesireeNevermind said:

babynoz said:

squirrelgrease said:

I only have one bullet in my gun and I can't decide who to use it on - the defense, the prosecution or myself.

You didn't even call in sick...hell, I got a hostile witness on my hands, not to mention poor Threadbare, (whose name had to be changed to protect his identity), and jury deliberations have degenrated, (predictably), into who P is sleeping with.

Save that one bullet...looks like the deliberations are going well into the night and somebody has to order the pizzas. We don't want a hung jury on our hands.

What?? You mean Threadbare went into the Witness Protection program? Traitor!

2elijah said:

DesireeNevermind said:

Let's just say...she got a gift from Prince and she did not value it the way she should have.

Okay, Desiree, I think you should leave it at that my sis, don't want to see you get a C&D and it looks like some folks are going fishing for more.. So like orger Babynoz said, the thread went off the train track, so let's get back on it. So what about the interviewers description of Paisley Park, what did you think about it, and also when the Ebony guests were leaving Paisley Park and they said they wondered when Prince was going to release the new music they listened to while they were there?

all this code talk

i feel like im on a special ops mission

i still haven't picked it up yet

but what do you think the interviewers could have done better

Prince sure looks good on the cover doesn't he?

PicklesMcMillan said:

2elijah said:

Okay, Desiree, I think you should leave it at that my sis, don't want to see you get a C&D and it looks like some folks are going fishing for more.. So like orger Babynoz said, the thread went off the train track, so let's get back on it. So what about the interviewers description of Paisley Park, what did you think about it, and also when the Ebony guests were leaving Paisley Park and they said they wondered when Prince was going to release the new music they listened to while they were there?

all this code talk

i feel like im on a special ops mission

i still haven't picked it up yet

but what do you think the interviewers could have done better

I don't think the inteviewers could have done better really...this is Prince. He will discuss what he feels like discussing.

I would love to see him get interviewed by Dick Gregory.

Onthereal said:

DesireeNevermind said:

Let's just say...she got a gift from Prince and she did not value it the way she should have.

Gotcha. After these last few posts I have nothing else to say--unless I hear or think of something worthy to tell all of you. Goodnight.

Value thats somethings to gain;-) Remember i came here for no gain

2elijah said:

SomewhereHereOnEarth said:

no i didn't read it wrong...i guess i didn't put the question more clearly...so i'll ask again...

why did he put (laughs) when he's answering the question??

he couldn't have put LOL or HA HA??

i mean when i write out a letter i don't put Laughing...i put either LOL or HA HA.

it could've been more believeable (to me anyways) if he had put either or cuz that (laughs) is bothering me...i mean its not even in the present tense...it's in past tense...:/

That's not difficult to answer, it was obviously his individual choice to express it that way. No biggy

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when you have nothing to gain you speak your mind remember i don't have the ebony issue

DesireeNevermind said:

WaterInYourBath said:

If that's the case, she's another one for the prosecution.

Kim Upsher (I forgot about her): Disrespected in Purple Rain.

Susan Moonsie: Thrown in the background of Vanity 6.

Cat: I explained her sad role already.

But let's say Tamar is still for the defense: So you're saying they were in a possible relationship? I've read that around here before, with people saying she was the reason Manuela left, but I never believed that. But looking at how she received his "girlfriend" spotlight upfront on tour during a "free" time when he wasn't acting as "Soul Brother #1" (LOL), you might be right. However....Tamar never got the usual girlfriend album release that she wanted and that was advertised (like Vanity, Susannah, Carmen, Mayte, Bria). I don't know how to explain that part.

Prince was trying to get Tamar signed to a label...he was trying to make her independent from him which goes to show how much he believed in her talent. Vanity, Susannah, Carmen, Mayte and even Bria were all signed to Prince's label or packaged with his music which means there wasn't a whip cream's chance in Starbucks that those brawds were going to be able to make it without being directly associated with, marketed by and financed by Prince. Plus there was some personal stuff going on that i won't get into but Tamar could have played her hand a lot better IMO.

Susan chose to be in the background. Cat got caught up. Kim broke P's heart and she lucky she was even in the film PR to begin with.

Ahhhh....Well, that explains it. Interesting. But just to clarify that "label" part: Are you talking about a non-contract label deal or something like that? It couldn't have been a normal deal, since he's against those.

Ok, the other 3:

1) You know, honestly, for years I didn't know Susan was Black, lol. People I know who would watch their videos in the past would ask me what ethnicity she is and assumed she was Indian, but I never was sure, until a couple years ago when I read someone specify her race here. But anyway, I just remembered Susan had a lead role in that song "Drive Me Wild," so like Tamar, you win with Susan. ....

2) If you're talking about the "love" issues with Cat, Sheila, Susannah, and that Anna girl, those problems aren't the reason why Prince made her dance/act the way she did on stage. Her role was a strange character he created. Sheila wasn't up there looking frantic/desparate like Cat, LOL.

3) That may be true....But I still don't appreciate how majority of Black females shown in his productions were made to look silly, scary, or unwanted, like she was (told to get away from Morris). That's what the audience sees, not what happened personally between him and the women backstage.

[Edited 6/14/10 22:24pm]

PicklesMcMillan said:

Onthereal said:

I think he fancies them like we wouldn't believe. So many beautiful women, petite just like him. Could there be an Asian female inside of Prince? He said they discovered a female side in him--not me) or was it cosmic talk like he did in Ebony?

the girl inside him is Camille Theng Kwong Lei

DesireeNevermind said:

PicklesMcMillan said:

all this code talk

i feel like im on a special ops mission

i still haven't picked it up yet

but what do you think the interviewers could have done better

I don't think the inteviewers could have done better really...this is Prince. He will discuss what he feels like discussing.

I would love to see him get interviewed by Dick Gregory.

I elect Paul Mooney, or Min. Louis Farrakhan. Any of them, or anyone like them, would be GOLDEN, LOL, but will NEVER happen.....Pfffft, chicken.

Listen...

People call me rude, I wish we were all nude

I wish there was no black and white,

I wish there were no rules

WaterInYourBath said:

DesireeNevermind said:

I don't think the inteviewers could have done better really...this is Prince. He will discuss what he feels like discussing.

I would love to see him get interviewed by Dick Gregory.

I elect Paul Mooney, or Min. Louis Farrakhan. Any of them, or anyone like them, would be GOLDEN, LOL, but will NEVER happen.....Pfffft, chicken.

Hey Babynoz, has the Judge been assigned for this case?

WaterInYourBath said:

DesireeNevermind said:

I don't think the inteviewers could have done better really...this is Prince. He will discuss what he feels like discussing.

I would love to see him get interviewed by Dick Gregory.

I elect Paul Mooney, or Min. Louis Farrakhan. Any of them, or anyone like them, would be GOLDEN, LOL, but will NEVER happen.....Pfffft, chicken.

heck no!, these guys will shred his light bright ass up into pieces

i say Dick Gregory

what about Soledad O'brien?

what about little Richard?

what about little Richard ?

[Edited 6/14/10 22:26pm]

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

WaterInYourBath said:

I elect Paul Mooney, or Min. Louis Farrakhan. Any of them, or anyone like them, would be GOLDEN, LOL, but will NEVER happen.....Pfffft, chicken.

Hey Babynoz, has the Judge been assigned for this case?

PicklesMcMillan said:

Soledad O'brien

I'd like to tongue punch her fart box.

PicklesMcMillan said:

WaterInYourBath said:

I elect Paul Mooney, or Min. Louis Farrakhan. Any of them, or anyone like them, would be GOLDEN, LOL, but will NEVER happen.....Pfffft, chicken.

jeck no!, these guys will shred his light bright ass up into pieces

i say Dick Gregory

what about Soledad O'brien?

what about little Richard?

what about http://www.youtube.com/wa...9tPtYwGP6c

Precisely.

Nah, I'm kidding. I don't want to see the man get torn apart. I think they would show respect as interviewers, but wouldn't be afraid of him, and would know how to get him to answer questions with better elaboration.

Talk about Prince getting shredded....I think Little Richard is liable to do that to him too. LOL. Except Richard would turn the interview around and make it about himself: "Who told you that you could wear your hair like me? My clothes?? My mustache??? HUH? You ain't never gave me credit for nothin!" That would be too hilarious!