She sung a Maxinquaye track. | |
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Prince needs to study her. All you others say Hell Yea!! | |
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2freaky4church1 said: Prince needs to study her.
to learn what? | |
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PurpleLove7 said: funkyhead said: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/entertainment/8543467.stm
Do you have those expectations about any of your favourite artists or bands? Alison: I stopped listening to Prince because I thought, "Oh God, no. I just want it to be like the old days!' I just loved him when I was a teenager and stuff. I was just utterly obsessed with him. What was the first Prince album you got into? Alison: It was actually the first one. It was very disco and seventies. I loved that. ta, dah!! ... & who is she again? Never heard of her ... ...again, this statement really says more about you than her! I'm not saying you SHOULD know who Goldfrapp is, but why do you feel that your ignorance of her counts as a point against her? Wierd | |
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elmer said: 2freaky4church1 said: Prince needs to study her.
to learn what? Create music that anyone, outside of his famship ghetto, gives a shit about for starters | |
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Bohemian67 said: funkyhead said: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/entertainment/8543467.stm
Do you have those expectations about any of your favourite artists or bands? Alison: I stopped listening to Prince because I thought, "Oh God, no. I just want it to be like the old days!' I just loved him when I was a teenager and stuff. I was just utterly obsessed with him. What was the first Prince album you got into? Alison: It was actually the first one. It was very disco and seventies. I loved that. ta, dah!! Here we go again...."in the old days EVERYTHING was better"..... Nobody else has mentioned it apart from those who think 'EVERYTHING from the past 5 years is better' If this is a thread with that opinion, nobody has even mentioned it until the yaysayers showed up. ADDED: Sorry Bohemian, that came across a bit snarky, and it wasn't meant to be directed at you personally, not deleting my comment, because it still stands, just didn't want you to think I was ranting at you personally [Edited 3/23/10 13:18pm] blah blah blah | |
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NouveauDance said: erik319 said: What's the latest album called?
Head First. If you like their poppier stuff, it's like that. Cool, cheers for that, I'll give it a bash. blah blah blah | |
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pald1 said: PurpleLove7 said: ... & who is she again? Never heard of her ... ...again, this statement really says more about you than her! I'm not saying you SHOULD know who Goldfrapp is, but why do you feel that your ignorance of her counts as a point against her? Wierd It's basically this: Why are some celebrating/pointing out her opinion of Prince? Is it because she is well known to UK music listeners under 25 that her leanings in the new vs old Prince argument holds water? Shit, Ke$ha loves Prince enough to sneak into his house. I don't give a crap what she thinks either. Shall I post her thoughts on Prince as evidence to support my own thoughts? Ke$ha loves Prince currently...see it's not just me! It's not a huge deal either way. It is interesting to see what other celebs think of Prince. However, it makes little difference to me and doesn't do a lot to support anyone else's claims of Prince's current situation! "New Power slide...." | |
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pald1 said: elmer said: to learn what? Create music that anyone, outside of his famship ghetto, gives a shit about for starters I would bet that the last few Prince albums charted higher in quite a number of countries (including the USA) than those of Ms. Goldfrapp. Bottom line: Prince's famship ghetto is still much bigger than her mass appeal. A really great idol for Prince. He must have wanted that for ages. | |
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skywalker said: pald1 said: ...again, this statement really says more about you than her! I'm not saying you SHOULD know who Goldfrapp is, but why do you feel that your ignorance of her counts as a point against her? Wierd It's basically this: Why are some celebrating/pointing out her opinion of Prince? Is it because she is well known to UK music listeners under 25 that her leanings in the new vs old Prince argument holds water? Shit, Ke$ha loves Prince enough to sneak into his house. I don't give a crap what she thinks either. Shall I post her thoughts on Prince as evidence to support my own thoughts? Ke$ha loves Prince currently...see it's not just me! It's not a huge deal either way. It is interesting to see what other celebs think of Prince. However, it makes little difference to me and doesn't do a lot to support anyone else's claims of Prince's current situation! No, it's basically this: Someone makes an open-ended point concerning another artist's lament over Prince's decline. You immediately jump in, take umbrage at the slight against your master, and seek to negate the point ONLY because YOU haven't heard of her, and why should it matter? Well this, if I may say so, is self-obsessed, babyish--and plain incoherent. Then, you soften slightly, perhaps at the embarrassment at not being as musically literate as you thought you were, and proceed to excrete a ton of verbiage that can neatly be summed as "it's no big deal either way." Well, of course, the difference here is that a considerable amount of people are interested to know what Alison Goldfrapp has to say--about anything--while you,I suspect, draw a much smaller crowd. Goodnight. | |
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EmancipationLover said: pald1 said: Create music that anyone, outside of his famship ghetto, gives a shit about for starters I would bet that the last few Prince albums charted higher in quite a number of countries (including the USA) than those of Ms. Goldfrapp. Bottom line: Prince's famship ghetto is still much bigger than her mass appeal. A really great idol for Prince. He must have wanted that for ages. Don't bet on that. | |
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MacDaddy said: Genesia said: Who?
Great band (IMO) She knows. She's just being herself 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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erik319 said: skywalker said: This is a prince fan site. My comments, snarky as they may have been, are really no more or less productive than every other thing that is posted at the org. I mean, is the original post/topic productive? You are going to respond to the original post in a variation one of a few ways: "Yay Alison Goldfrapp. Prince has lost it, I agree." Or, "Boo Alison Goldfrapp. I disagree." Or, "Allison who?" The original post isn't a question, it is open for any kind of commentary...snarky or not. The bottom line is that this post isn't about Goldfrapp at all, it's a subtle taking of stock is the dividing line of Prince fandom...and you know that. [Edited 3/23/10 9:43am] But can't you see that the only person who has taken umbridge and turned it into a 'them and us' is you, Skywalker. Nobody else has mentioned it. Anyway, let's forget it and move on. I am glad Skywalker spoke 4 people like me, I could not have said it better. He has a point u need 2 read over this thread. I don’t know who the hell Goldfrapp is and yet along what she is saying. What is her opinion suppose 2 mean and what weight does it have? | |
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No, it's basically this: Someone makes an open-ended point concerning another artist's lament over Prince's decline. Quoting the title of the thread: "-see it's not just us!" Not an open ended point. It's not so subtle positioning. You immediately jump in, take umbrage at the slight against your master, and seek to negate the point ONLY because YOU haven't heard of her, and why should it matter? Well this, if I may say so, is self-obsessed, babyish--and plain incoherent.
I was being a bit snarky, yes. I thought it was more tongue in cheek than mean spirited. The rest are your made up assumptions about my motivation. So, you may say whatever you want. They are still simply your assumptions, and they are wrong. Then, you soften slightly, perhaps at the embarrassment at not being as musically literate as you thought you were,
Again, more assumptions on your part. I still don't know who Goldfrapp is, not do I think that her thoughts on Prince hold more water than anyone else. Again, who is she and why should we care? Does her commentary validate/negate our thoughts on the matter? Shall I give you another obscure celeb's thoughts on Prince for an "open ended" discussion? and proceed to excrete a ton of verbiage that can neatly be summed as "it's no big deal either way." Well, of course, the difference here is that a considerable amount of people are interested to know what Alison Goldfrapp has to say--about anything--while you,I suspect, draw a much smaller crowd.
Goodnight. Wow. Going for the personal insult by comparing my crowd drawing power to Alison Goldfrapp. Weird. It seems as if you are defending her and her fans in the very same way you accused me of doing for Prince. Again, my original response was a snarky bit of jest. Take it however you want. "New Power slide...." | |
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funkyhead said: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/entertainment/8543467.stm
Do you have those expectations about any of your favourite artists or bands? Alison: I stopped listening to Prince because I thought, "Oh God, no. I just want it to be like the old days!' I just loved him when I was a teenager and stuff. I was just utterly obsessed with him. What was the first Prince album you got into? Alison: It was actually the first one. It was very disco and seventies. I loved that. ta, dah!! funkyhead you want your idol to be like he use to? wow! your the only one on planet earth earth who wishes that! "I have so much love for Prince. But why don't they look at me that way"- MJ | |
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pald1 said: EmancipationLover said: I would bet that the last few Prince albums charted higher in quite a number of countries (including the USA) than those of Ms. Goldfrapp. Bottom line: Prince's famship ghetto is still much bigger than her mass appeal. A really great idol for Prince. He must have wanted that for ages. Don't bet on that. The good thing about the internet is that we're not dependent on intuition, but can look things up. So please look at the discography of both artists: Goldfrapp: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...iscography Prince: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...iscography "Planet Earth" was top 10 in the US, Germany, The Netherlands, Norway and Switzerland (no. 1 there!). "3121" was top 10 in the aforementioned countries (incl. a US no. 1), plus in Canada and the UK. "Musicology" was top 10 in even more countries. The only top 10 positions listed for Goldfrapp were for the last two albums in the UK and Ireland. Bottom line: outside of the "ghetto" (to choose your words) of the British Isles, people don't seem to be that interested in Goldfrapp. At least, those who are make less impact on the charts than some Prince fans do. Hate and reason don't go that well together... | |
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Goldfrapp are OK. Just that, OK. (and that's coming from someone in the UK).
I'm not really a fan of how the music press in this country constantly collectively ejaculate over everything Alison does. There's a few other people that they do that to as well, generally all middle-class indie student rubbish. Her opinion on Prince means about as much to me as Lovefoxx's opinion on Michael Jackson. It's only something that someone who is a fan of both artists would really give a shit about. |
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skywalker said: No, it's basically this: Someone makes an open-ended point concerning another artist's lament over Prince's decline. Quoting the title of the thread: "-see it's not just us!" Not an open ended point. It's not so subtle positioning. Again, more assumptions on your part. I still don't know who Goldfrapp is, not do I think that her thoughts on Prince hold more water than anyone else. Again, who is she and why should we care? Does her commentary validate/negate our thoughts on the matter? Shall I give you another obscure celeb's thoughts on Prince for an "open ended" discussion? and proceed to excrete a ton of verbiage that can neatly be summed as "it's no big deal either way." Well, of course, the difference here is that a considerable amount of people are interested to know what Alison Goldfrapp has to say--about anything--while you,I suspect, draw a much smaller crowd.
Goodnight. Wow. Going for the personal insult by comparing my crowd drawing power to Alison Goldfrapp. Weird. It seems as if you are defending her and her fans in the very same way you accused me of doing for Prince. Again, my original response was a snarky bit of jest. Take it however you want. Again, a lot of verbiage that never really addresses the original point-that you feel your ignorance is good enough defence. You just can't take ownership can you? | |
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EmancipationLover said: pald1 said: Don't bet on that. The good thing about the internet is that we're not dependent on intuition, but can look things up. So please look at the discography of both artists: Goldfrapp: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...iscography Prince: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...iscography "Planet Earth" was top 10 in the US, Germany, The Netherlands, Norway and Switzerland (no. 1 there!). "3121" was top 10 in the aforementioned countries (incl. a US no. 1), plus in Canada and the UK. "Musicology" was top 10 in even more countries. The only top 10 positions listed for Goldfrapp were for the last two albums in the UK and Ireland. Bottom line: outside of the "ghetto" (to choose your words) of the British Isles, people don't seem to be that interested in Goldfrapp. At least, those who are make less impact on the charts than some Prince fans do. Hate and reason don't go that well together... Well, we all know how Wikipedia can be an authority on such things. Do the Planet Earth figures include the copies that were essentially given away free by a European newspaper? And, do the Musicology figures also include the CD's given to concertgoers. If you're from Soundsdcan they do. Ignorance and reason don't go that well together either. [Edited 3/23/10 16:37pm] | |
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pald1 said: EmancipationLover said: The good thing about the internet is that we're not dependent on intuition, but can look things up. So please look at the discography of both artists: Goldfrapp: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...iscography Prince: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...iscography "Planet Earth" was top 10 in the US, Germany, The Netherlands, Norway and Switzerland (no. 1 there!). "3121" was top 10 in the aforementioned countries (incl. a US no. 1), plus in Canada and the UK. "Musicology" was top 10 in even more countries. The only top 10 positions listed for Goldfrapp were for the last two albums in the UK and Ireland. Bottom line: outside of the "ghetto" (to choose your words) of the British Isles, people don't seem to be that interested in Goldfrapp. At least, those who are make less impact on the charts than some Prince fans do. Hate and reason don't go that well together... Well, we all know how Wikipedia can be an authority on such things. Do the Planet Earth figures include the copies that were essentially given away free by a European newspaper? And, do the Musicology figures also include the CD's given to concertgoers. If you're from Soundsdcan they do. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Goldfrapp is about art not commerce. All you others say Hell Yea!! | |
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pald1 said: EmancipationLover said: The good thing about the internet is that we're not dependent on intuition, but can look things up. So please look at the discography of both artists: Goldfrapp: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...iscography Prince: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...iscography "Planet Earth" was top 10 in the US, Germany, The Netherlands, Norway and Switzerland (no. 1 there!). "3121" was top 10 in the aforementioned countries (incl. a US no. 1), plus in Canada and the UK. "Musicology" was top 10 in even more countries. The only top 10 positions listed for Goldfrapp were for the last two albums in the UK and Ireland. Bottom line: outside of the "ghetto" (to choose your words) of the British Isles, people don't seem to be that interested in Goldfrapp. At least, those who are make less impact on the charts than some Prince fans do. Hate and reason don't go that well together... Well, we all know how Wikipedia can be an authority on such things. Do the Planet Earth figures include the copies that were essentially given away free by a European newspaper? And, do the Musicology figures also include the CD's given to concertgoers. If you're from Soundsdcan they do. Ignorance and reason don't go that well together either. [Edited 3/23/10 16:37pm] The chart positions listed on Wikipedia are the official chart positions in the respective countries. If you disagree with the way the charts have been compiled in some countries, you're welcome to do so, but where does that lead to? The charts will be adjusted to your personal counting system until you can prove that Goldfrapp has been more successful than Michael Jackson? FYI: The newspaper giveaway has been in the UK. Consequently, there is no chart position for "Plant Earth" listed in the UK. You could at least check your facts just once. | |
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2freaky4church1 said: Goldfrapp is about art not commerce.
Don't tell me. I haven't posted the initial remark regarding which music would be interesting to whoever. | |
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Irrelevant. I've never even heard of her. I respect everybody's opinion but Prince's music has grown and matured over the years. To me his music is still good and she obviously can't handle that he has a deeper meaning in his music that he's at peace. And in my opinion his most recent albums are better than his first one which is the ultimate goal in music. To be better than when u first started. April usually brings showers
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annastesia101 said: Irrelevant. I've never even heard of her. I respect everybody's opinion but Prince's music has grown and matured over the years. To me his music is still good and she obviously can't handle that he has a deeper meaning in his music that he's at peace. And in my opinion his most recent albums are better than his first one which is the ultimate goal in music. To be better than when u first started.
If he's at peace, he goes about his business making music instead of trying to make money off innocent babies. HELL O. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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EmancipationLover said: pald1 said: Well, we all know how Wikipedia can be an authority on such things. Do the Planet Earth figures include the copies that were essentially given away free by a European newspaper? And, do the Musicology figures also include the CD's given to concertgoers. If you're from Soundsdcan they do. Ignorance and reason don't go that well together either. [Edited 3/23/10 16:37pm] The chart positions listed on Wikipedia are the official chart positions in the respective countries. If you disagree with the way the charts have been compiled in some countries, you're welcome to do so, but where does that lead to? The charts will be adjusted to your personal counting system until you can prove that Goldfrapp has been more successful than Michael Jackson? FYI: The newspaper giveaway has been in the UK. Consequently, there is no chart position for "Plant Earth" listed in the UK. You could at least check your facts just once. I see you conveniently ignore the Musicology issue in the states though. Anyway, your furious intent to give Prince legitimacy through chart sales is touching but still only a rather oblique retort to my initial inference...that Prince is pretty irrelevant in today's music climate. And, if you want to start fiddling with Wikipedia again and tirelessly go down the chart sales route, try comparing Lotusflower to anything he did in the 80's.. The end. | |
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annastesia101 said: Irrelevant. I've never even heard of her. I respect everybody's opinion but Prince's music has grown and matured over the years. To me his music is still good and she obviously can't handle that he has a deeper meaning in his music that he's at peace. And in my opinion his most recent albums are better than his first one which is the ultimate goal in music. To be better than when u first started.
Oh, god, not another one. YOU haven't heard of her. Well, then, cased closed! | |
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Bottom line is music isnt't that bad that u hav to stop listenin to him April usually brings showers
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pald1 said: annastesia101 said: Irrelevant. I've never even heard of her. I respect everybody's opinion but Prince's music has grown and matured over the years. To me his music is still good and she obviously can't handle that he has a deeper meaning in his music that he's at peace. And in my opinion his most recent albums are better than his first one which is the ultimate goal in music. To be better than when u first started.
Oh, god, not another one. YOU haven't heard of her. Well, then, cased closed! Hilarious. So juvenile. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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