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Reply #480 posted 03/01/10 10:31am

mayrain

CoCoCrip said:

Brothers and sisters, Eye sit here and must grin
No wonder He has an issue with His next of kin
What's with all The Hatred? Why all The Strife?
Are we not gathered here 2 get through this thing called life?

The Cause of The CONfusion, ONE would have 2 suspect
Is The Lack of understanding The Image of God's intellect
Eye've PROvided a link that might help clear things up
But by no means am Eye saying that U must drink from that cup

http://www.newadvent.org/summa/1014.htm

No child is bad from The Beginning, was that not made clear?
Eye Am troubled by all The Child abuse going on around here
IT transcends The Physical, IT hurts more than a slap
What is The Cause and effect of labeling any child, "crap"?

Is IT better 4 ONE 2 keep The Children under lock and key
Sheltered from all The Haters and those that wannabe?
If The Children were orphans would this have been The Reaction?
Behold The Cause and effect on The Late Michael Jackson

But that's anOTHER subject perhaps 4 anOTHER court
If U want 2 go there, U'll have 2 stamp your own passport
Eye Am here, where are U? Are U still stuck in The Past?
Remember, my 'friends', all good things, they say, never last

Anyway, 4give Me 4 interrupting, and putting my two cents in
But all this lack of compassion just adds 2 The Urge 2 taste sin
Seems The Thieves won't be happy until The Last temple's destroyed
Only then will The Fruits of ONE's labor truly be enjoyed

-> CoCoCrip <-

"Drugs Just Make U Smaller"

"Did U Ever Stop 2 Wonder Why U Put Another Down?
No Man Should Asunder, The Joy That Another Man Found"



I like this really good. wink
Proverbs 23:9
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Reply #481 posted 03/01/10 10:34am

SupaFunkyOrgan
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SPOOKYGAS said:

lazycrockett said:




The usa is full of idiots obviously.



G.W. Bush.

TWICE
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Reply #482 posted 03/01/10 10:43am

Graycap23

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

SPOOKYGAS said:




G.W. Bush.

TWICE

3 times.....don't 4 get Daddy Bush.
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Reply #483 posted 03/01/10 10:51am

SupaFunkyOrgan
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tricky99 said:

Giovanni777 said:



I really, really appreciate this post, and agree.

~G


Yes this is very thoughtful. I'm always amazed by the people who say they listened once or twice to a Prince song then decide that its "trash". It does seem a simple of our time that we treat music as a compeletely disposable
commodity like a bag of chips. So many are willing to dismiss without even completely understanding the music or the lyrics.

There are still songs Prince has created that I am enjoying more years after I heard them for the first time. If Prince is indeed a genuis why it it that so many of his listeners refuse to give him any slack. They immediate jump to the conclusion that if they don't feel a certain piece of music it is "crap". I don't understand that need to denigrate his Art just because it doesn't hit me personally.


some of us are so beholden to lyrics which is exactly more why this song sucks.
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Reply #484 posted 03/01/10 10:59am

Nelson4Life

In the last post a few of us were talking about "who is playing the drums". I saw Cora play w/ him at Coachella. Of course when she first came out I was like "damn, I should be up there, she better be raw", and she did her thang!! I thought Michael B. was playing the drums then I rememberd Cora is in the band. I think it's her.
U can cut off all my fins - But 2 your ways I will not bend
I'll die before I let U tell me how 2 swim
And I'll come back again as a dolphin
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Reply #485 posted 03/01/10 11:04am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

tricky99 said:

Yes this is very thoughtful. I'm always amazed by the people who say they listened once or twice to a Prince song then decide that its "trash". It does seem a simple of our time that we treat music as a compeletely disposable commodity like a bag of chips. So many are willing to dismiss without even completely understanding the music or the lyrics. There are still songs Prince has created that I am enjoying more years after I heard them for the first time. If Prince is indeed a genuis why it it that so many of his listeners refuse to give him any slack. They immediate jump to the conclusion that if they don't feel a certain piece of music it is "crap". I don't understand that need to denigrate his Art just because it doesn't hit me personally.
some of us are so beholden to lyrics which is exactly more why this song sucks.


The song sucks to u in ur opinion. u don`t speak for everyone. I hate Future Baby Mama & Mr Goodnight, but some people like those songs. U cant just put a general term on it when it`s all subjective.
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Reply #486 posted 03/01/10 11:08am

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NouveauDance said:

billymeade said:

Pitchfork's review is not kind... but accurate.

http://pitchfork.com/revi...nd-effect/

Spot on.


I'd say horribly off.
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Reply #487 posted 03/01/10 11:09am

ThirdStrike

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Giovanni777 said:

Brofie said:

I recall being confused by Purple And Gold at first. But then I found myself singing it and couldnt get it out of my head. I grew to love it in a a couple of weeks for some reason. I like this new song less but I wouldnt be surprised it I came to like it more. Sometimes I wonder if a musical genius will actually make something that outside the comprehension of the average person and some repeated exposure and study to required to truly "get it".

In this world of throw away music and instant gratification, we have lost the ability to consider and ponder all art to the fullest potential. This is one reason there are so few worthy complete albums today. There was a time when people had to sit down with an actual piece of vinyl and a record player and listen to a complete album; not just a collection of random music files without some artistic or conceptual framework. People read the liner notes and studied the cover art. They sat around the card table or at the backyard cookout and discussed it. There was a tangible dimension to the music. Music wasnt gulped down in large digital chunks. It was savored, revisited, studied, copied, admired - it was a lasting component of our lives that actually scored (and, there by, immortalized) the most important and vivid memories in our lives.

Today, it doesnt even have to be real art - or real music. No one cares because there is something else coming right behind what you just heard and it is disposable too. I suppose that makes true artists like Prince a dying breed. But then that has been the case for the last 20 years. That Prince is even still around and can get on the charts or get a Grammy nomination at all is more than astounding to me.

I guess I say all that to say give new music from a genius some further consideration - at least listen to it more than twice - before making a judgement. Sometimes there is still some of that thing that made people truly listen to music back in the day.
[Edited 3/1/10 5:16am]
[Edited 3/1/10 5:18am]


I really, really appreciate this post, and agree.

~G


I second that emotion Gio! Probably one of the most accurate and thoughtful posts I have ever read on this site. I'm now a fan...
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Reply #488 posted 03/01/10 11:11am

NelsonR

wtf was prince thinking, lol...can he picture us singing this along w/ him lol
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Reply #489 posted 03/01/10 11:13am

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NelsonR said:

wtf was prince thinking, lol...can he picture us singing this along w/ him lol

This is what he's hoping. That we repeat the lyrics of being made in Prince's image lol
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Reply #490 posted 03/01/10 11:20am

NelsonR

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

NelsonR said:

wtf was prince thinking, lol...can he picture us singing this along w/ him lol

This is what he's hoping. That we repeat the lyrics of being made in Prince's image lol


"clap your hands...cause and effect y'all" LOL

this song sounds like a mixture of family name and wedding feast

with prince on valium

sorry y'all...i'm not feelin' this at all

but it's great that prince releases crappy songs at times,

he's only human

(forgive me, just how i feel y'all)
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Reply #491 posted 03/01/10 11:23am

ThirdStrike

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NelsonR said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


This is what he's hoping. That we repeat the lyrics of being made in Prince's image lol


"clap your hands...cause and effect y'all" LOL

this song sounds like a mixture of family name and wedding feast

with prince on valium

sorry y'all...i'm not feelin' this at all

but it's great that prince releases crappy songs at times,

he's only human

(forgive me, just how i feel y'all)

I am feeling it. And I also think it's great Prince releases fantastic music most of the time, and very good the rest. Not sure if he'd even capable of making "crappy" music anyway...

And that's just how I feel y'all.
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Reply #492 posted 03/01/10 11:25am

Landonfunkmonk
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billymeade said:

Pitchfork's review is not kind... but accurate.

http://pitchfork.com/revi...nd-effect/



Well I totally disagree with pitchfork's review.

I really don't like alot of the music they champion, crap such a Animal Collective.

Their opinion carries as much weight as my four year old son's. He told me turn the song off when I put it on in the car yesterday.

I suspect he could be Wall.

The song's great, I'm lovin it and really lovin' those Hey's.

It's Play in The Sunshine meets Rock N Roll is Alive.
Something BIG Is Coming.
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Reply #493 posted 03/01/10 11:30am

NelsonR

ThirdStrike said:

NelsonR said:



"clap your hands...cause and effect y'all" LOL

this song sounds like a mixture of family name and wedding feast

with prince on valium

sorry y'all...i'm not feelin' this at all

but it's great that prince releases crappy songs at times,

he's only human

(forgive me, just how i feel y'all)

I am feeling it. And I also think it's great Prince releases fantastic music most of the time, and very good the rest. Not sure if he'd even capable of making "crappy" music anyway...

And that's just how I feel y'all.


if any other artist did this, i doubt it would be played on the radio at all.
what exactly are you feeling...his emotive lyrics? the beat that makes u want to dance
lol naw
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Reply #494 posted 03/01/10 11:30am

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Landonfunkmonkey said:

billymeade said:

Pitchfork's review is not kind... but accurate.

http://pitchfork.com/revi...nd-effect/



Well I totally disagree with pitchfork's review.

I really don't like alot of the music they champion, crap such a Animal Collective.

Their opinion carries as much weight as my four year old son's. He told me turn the song off when I put it on in the car yesterday.

I suspect he could be Wall.

The song's great, I'm lovin it and really lovin' those Hey's.

It's Play in The Sunshine meets Rock N Roll is Alive.


It's neither. Those songs are truly Epic, this is a bad imposter.
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Reply #495 posted 03/01/10 11:35am

m22

2 out of 7
1 being the worst by musical standards.
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Reply #496 posted 03/01/10 11:39am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

HonestMan13 said:

Let's keep it real up in here. Not a single orger minded all of Princes religious songs (God, The Cross, eye Wish U Heaven, eye No et al.) back in the day because he also had nasty profane tracks (Erotic City, Bob George, Irresistible Bitch) to counter them. Prince has always been religious and it wasn't an issue for many on here until he stopped cursing and singing about sex on every other track so blatantly. The mild religious tone of 'Cause & Effect' is just that... MILD.

It's kind of funny looking back at the Lovesexy Tour when Prince asked us "Do U believe" how many were straight up lying when they screamed "yes".
[Edited 2/27/10 19:49pm]

HOW

RIDICULOUS! falloff

People only appreciated the spiritual overtones in his music because he said curse words to counter it? PUH LEASE! lol


How come when Prince references God/religion nowadays everybody starting rolling their eyes and getting defensive. Back in 88 he could have a stadium of people chanting along to his religious overtures. He's always talked about it. What's so different now? Why is Prince talking about religion today so unbearable?
When eye go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all heart up in the house but when eye log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming!
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Reply #497 posted 03/01/10 11:41am

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CoCoCrip said:

Brothers and sisters, Eye sit here and must grin
No wonder He has an issue with His next of kin
What's with all The Hatred? Why all The Strife?
Are we not gathered here 2 get through this thing called life?

The Cause of The CONfusion, ONE would have 2 suspect
Is The Lack of understanding The Image of God's intellect
Eye've PROvided a link that might help clear things up
But by no means am Eye saying that U must drink from that cup

http://www.newadvent.org/summa/1014.htm

No child is bad from The Beginning, was that not made clear?
Eye Am troubled by all The Child abuse going on around here
IT transcends The Physical, IT hurts more than a slap
What is The Cause and effect of labeling any child, "crap"?

Is IT better 4 ONE 2 keep The Children under lock and key
Sheltered from all The Haters and those that wannabe?
If The Children were orphans would this have been The Reaction?
Behold The Cause and effect on The Late Michael Jackson

But that's anOTHER subject perhaps 4 anOTHER court
If U want 2 go there, U'll have 2 stamp your own passport
Eye Am here, where are U? Are U still stuck in The Past?
Remember, my 'friends', all good things, they say, never last

Anyway, 4give Me 4 interrupting, and putting my two cents in
But all this lack of compassion just adds 2 The Urge 2 taste sin
Seems The Thieves won't be happy until The Last temple's destroyed
Only then will The Fruits of ONE's labor truly be enjoyed

-> CoCoCrip <-

"Drugs Just Make U Smaller"

"Did U Ever Stop 2 Wonder Why U Put Another Down?
No Man Should Asunder, The Joy That Another Man Found"

reading
u don't really know me, u just think u do
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Reply #498 posted 03/01/10 11:50am

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tricky99 said:

Giovanni777 said:



I really, really appreciate this post, and agree.

~G


Yes this is very thoughtful. I'm always amazed by the people who say they listened once or twice to a Prince song then decide that its "trash". It does seem a simple of our time that we treat music as a compeletely disposable
commodity like a bag of chips. So many are willing to dismiss without even completely understanding the music or the lyrics.

There are still songs Prince has created that I am enjoying more years after I heard them for the first time. If Prince is indeed a genuis why it it that so many of his listeners refuse to give him any slack. They immediate jump to the conclusion that if they don't feel a certain piece of music it is "crap". I don't understand that need to denigrate his Art just because it doesn't hit me personally.





Maybe because we all don't know him we are so insensitive and so unarticulate. If an orger was asked by an artist or cook that they knew what their opinion was on something they created would they be so harsh as to call it crap? Is a painting that I wouldn't buy or a menu item I wouldn't order "crap" just because it does not suit my taste? I admire Prince for still going out on a limb and I think he did with this "rock anthem" kinda thing. He has enough money to not release anything new. I don't know if I could tolerate all the harsh critism that he takes time and time again if I didn't need the money. I would probably make it, put it in the vault and have people look at it and chew it up long after I am gone.
There came a time when the risk of remaining tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Anais Nin.
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Reply #499 posted 03/01/10 12:03pm

NelsonR

Deadflow3r said:

tricky99 said:



Yes this is very thoughtful. I'm always amazed by the people who say they listened once or twice to a Prince song then decide that its "trash". It does seem a simple of our time that we treat music as a compeletely disposable
commodity like a bag of chips. So many are willing to dismiss without even completely understanding the music or the lyrics.

There are still songs Prince has created that I am enjoying more years after I heard them for the first time. If Prince is indeed a genuis why it it that so many of his listeners refuse to give him any slack. They immediate jump to the conclusion that if they don't feel a certain piece of music it is "crap". I don't understand that need to denigrate his Art just because it doesn't hit me personally.





Maybe because we all don't know him we are so insensitive and so unarticulate. If an orger was asked by an artist or cook that they knew what their opinion was on something they created would they be so harsh as to call it crap? Is a painting that I wouldn't buy or a menu item I wouldn't order "crap" just because it does not suit my taste? I admire Prince for still going out on a limb and I think he did with this "rock anthem" kinda thing. He has enough money to not release anything new. I don't know if I could tolerate all the harsh critism that he takes time and time again if I didn't need the money. I would probably make it, put it in the vault and have people look at it and chew it up long after I am gone.


it's good that his music keeps us talking.
all prince songs have a way of growing on
u...maybe this 1 will also
rolleyes
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Reply #500 posted 03/01/10 12:11pm

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HonestMan13 said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


HOW

RIDICULOUS! falloff

People only appreciated the spiritual overtones in his music because he said curse words to counter it? PUH LEASE! lol


How come when Prince references God/religion nowadays everybody starting rolling their eyes and getting defensive. Back in 88 he could have a stadium of people chanting along to his religious overtures. He's always talked about it. What's so different now? Why is Prince talking about religion today so unbearable?

Because of his ACTIONS. Prince is supposedly at peace, this peaceful enlightened soul who is now beholden to nobody but watch those lawsuits, attacks on fans and all that other crap keep a comin. Prince straight out launched an unnecessary assault on the fan communities, one of which went down for the count because of all the hassle. Prince is a bully and his actions do not suggest that he's arrived anywhere but Greedville, something Jesus threw a fit over, literally.

:overturningPrince'smoneylenderways:
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Reply #501 posted 03/01/10 12:14pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Landonfunkmonkey said:




Well I totally disagree with pitchfork's review.

I really don't like alot of the music they champion, crap such a Animal Collective.

Their opinion carries as much weight as my four year old son's. He told me turn the song off when I put it on in the car yesterday.

I suspect he could be Wall.

The song's great, I'm lovin it and really lovin' those Hey's.

It's Play in The Sunshine meets Rock N Roll is Alive.


It's neither. Those songs are truly Epic, this is a bad imposter.


No it's not.
Something BIG Is Coming.
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Reply #502 posted 03/01/10 12:17pm

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Landonfunkmonkey said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



It's neither. Those songs are truly Epic, this is a bad imposter.


No it's not.

yes it is. This song is full of fake Joy. Play in the sunshine is pure unadulterated joy. Imposter.
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Reply #503 posted 03/01/10 12:20pm

alexnvrmind

Sadness is... Listening to Prince's old works and asking yourself "WTF?"

I'm all for growing as an artist and it's the only way an artist will continue to thrive and be relevant.

However as of late (last 5 years especially) perhaps he's trying to tell everyone, especially the fans (fams?) that, 'Hey, it's time for me to relax. So quit expecting anything else from me, at least for a while.'

Just a thought! Peace!
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Reply #504 posted 03/01/10 12:23pm

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Def in the minority around here but I STIL like it after many listens over the weekend. I will agree the "Hey" shouts put me off at first but whatever. By the end of the song it had me. I'm amused at the great lengths people go to around here detailing how much they dislike this song. It's just a song. You like it or you don't. It moves you in a postive way or it doesn't. Purely subjective and everyone is entitled to there opinions. Good or bad. Just saying. cool
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Reply #505 posted 03/01/10 12:33pm

Shonuffy

Just listened it 6 times in a row. I must say I like it!! Some nice guitar, some nice tempo changes!! For me it is quite a surprise.

I am here, where are you!!

I seem to be one of the few. Just give it a chance. Start listening neutral. Do you know that we DECIDE what we like. We make the connections in our brain. We can like whatever we want. Just make this one connection and join me at the party smile
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Reply #506 posted 03/01/10 12:39pm

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NelsonR said:

ThirdStrike said:


I am feeling it. And I also think it's great Prince releases fantastic music most of the time, and very good the rest. Not sure if he'd even capable of making "crappy" music anyway...

And that's just how I feel y'all.


if any other artist did this, i doubt it would be played on the radio at all.
what exactly are you feeling...his emotive lyrics? the beat that makes u want to dance
lol naw


Played on the radio? Who cares?! Almost all of music played on today's radio is a joke anyway. But to answer your question...yes. I do believe it is "radio worthy". Why wouldn't it be?

With regards to what I'm feeling? I'll just say it quenches my thirst for good music. Isn't that enough? Is for me...
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Reply #507 posted 03/01/10 12:42pm

Jestyr

Brofie said:

I recall being confused by Purple And Gold at first. But then I found myself singing it and couldnt get it out of my head. I grew to love it in a a couple of weeks for some reason. I like this new song less but I wouldnt be surprised it I came to like it more. Sometimes I wonder if a musical genius will actually make something that outside the comprehension of the average person and some repeated exposure and study to required to truly "get it".

In this world of throw away music and instant gratification, we have lost the ability to consider and ponder all art to the fullest potential. This is one reason there are so few worthy complete albums today. There was a time when people had to sit down with an actual piece of vinyl and a record player and listen to a complete album; not just a collection of random music files without some artistic or conceptual framework. People read the liner notes and studied the cover art. They sat around the card table or at the backyard cookout and discussed it. There was a tangible dimension to the music. Music wasnt gulped down in large digital chunks. It was savored, revisited, studied, copied, admired - it was a lasting component of our lives that actually scored (and, there by, immortalized) the most important and vivid memories in our lives.

Today, it doesnt even have to be real art - or real music. No one cares because there is something else coming right behind what you just heard and it is disposable too. I suppose that makes true artists like Prince a dying breed. But then that has been the case for the last 20 years. That Prince is even still around and can get on the charts or get a Grammy nomination at all is more than astounding to me.

I guess I say all that to say give new music from a genius some further consideration - at least listen to it more than twice - before making a judgement. Sometimes there is still some of that thing that made people truly listen to music back in the day.
[Edited 3/1/10 5:16am]
[Edited 3/1/10 5:18am]


Why, what a pleasant surprise - intelligence on the Org! These types of rational, eloquent posts are why I still hang onto this site.
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Reply #508 posted 03/01/10 12:44pm

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^
Wow. 4 postive posts in a row! Including mine of course. wink
Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way.
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Reply #509 posted 03/01/10 12:54pm

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I love the guitar work on the track, but the vocals don't do much for me. I've listened a few times hoping something will change, but it nothing begs me back for more. After being away for nearly a year, this is not a good sign. It does highlight just how great Lotusflow3r and MPLSoUND still are though.
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