stevenevermind said:

rebirth is "we are here where are u" but yeah, i thought of that right away...

Cerebus said:

Cerebus said:

sorry , colonized mind kicks its ass easily.....as do some other tracks.

As I said a few days ago:



I'd say right again and proclaim myself a prophet but it doesn't take much more than common sense to predict what a new Prince song is going to be like these days, does it?

My god, what an embarrassing piece of studio fluff. It just meanders and goes no where other than to the inevitable guitar flashes. After the Purple and Gold and now this atrocity, for those who weren't' convinced after, oh, 20 years of sub-par music, it's become clear: Prince has nothing left in the musical tank. He's still well worth a live ticket and I've no doubt his bands will continue to be some of the best around but his muse left with the 1980's.

Underwhelmed! Thought it would be a little harder like Bambi or Electric Chairbut it's Emancipation pop with alot of extra guitar to distract us to make us think that its a real rocker!

Do quell the debate on "single" or "one-off", it is labeled on lotusflow3r as a single.

NDRU said:

Great analogy. I remember when TGE came out..I rushed to Tower Records after work, sped home, told my roomies I was about to blast the stereo. Turned it on, and when "Pussy Control" finished, I was like, WTF?? Is Prince on crack? My roommates were even more horrified. Decided to listen to the rest, liked a few songs. Next day, put it in the car, and then I was like, damn this is kind of tight! And my roomies, after having to listen to it for a few days, were then like, "I had no idea Prince could play this type of music".
I think this song is like that; the first time I listened, I was like "eh", cool, but that's it. Did like the lyrics right away though. Listened to it a few more times; it's reminiscent of the days like TGE when the more I listened, the more I liked. The inverse being Musicology, Planet Earth, Lotusflower. I immediately dug quite a few of the songs, but, like most pop songs, they quickly faded into obscurity. I don't even know where my Musicology disc is!

With that, I think this is a song that will stand the test of time.

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how can u not love this man ?

27 years a fan and it's still the case that some tracks r instant, some grow, some scream out 4 editing/collaborative feedback.
it took me a couple of years 2 dig the rainbow children, one hearing 2 dig PFUnk, and never, 2 dig cinnamon girl, so i reserve my own judgement on the track,other than 2 say

"thank u P 4 still sharing at least some your music with us"

xpectation can only lead 2 dissapointment... u dig ?

Wow, just wow! It's days like this when I remember why I'm not a Prince fan anymore. Yes, I will continue to hold on to the past because the past is where I get comfort. It would be nice if I could caress the present, but that would be like fucking a 51-year old prostitute that has forgotten what made her sexy as hell in the first place, and I'm here to tell ya it isn't how you say GOD now, but how you said "God!" then. Amen.

Mars23 said:

OMG. That discussion is like...so six pages ago.

And like they'd call it a one-off on the website? Even if that's what it is?

Honey Handsome...don't worry about some of these people saying stupid stuff. Nome of us can make music like U do and I've got more love for U in my left pinky fingernail than this whole slew...I Love U.~T

"if you stamp your passport full of regret you have nothing to remember but a lot to forget"... totally dig that. For once this song is alive ! And like life, it takes a lot of directions : pop, rock, menacing, happy, fast, slow, etc. It's not a rock song, not a pop song, it's a prince song... so... "awkward" and a great one at that. I would really love to have a full album going in that direction.

OH !!!! I LOVE IT!!!!!

Wall said:

As I said a few days ago:

http://prince.org/msg/3/330850
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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

How's that Kool-Aid workin' for ya? LoL

Seriously, the best you can come up with is "He is grown"? AND! So am I. I've GROWN just as much as Prince has. In the last 26 years I've watched Prince go through many, MANY different phases in his "growth", but growing does not excuse shitty music. If you honestly think that this song or the vast majority of his output in the last 10 years is up to par with the best songs that he has written in his entire career then you need an ear transplant, IMMEDIATELY! "OH, Prince is back! Prince is back!" Where the fuck is he? Oh, I know where he is. Tarnishing his legacy with this crap.

thepope2the9s said:

Funny you said that. Colonized Mind just got finished playing on my iTunes, and I still LOVE that song. It is easily one of my favorite Prince songs of all time. The first time I heard it on the LA radio station, I was hooked. I have not been moved by a song like that in a long time - by anyone. I had it on repeat for about an hour. When I saw him perform it live in L.A., it was even better.

That is why eventhough I do not care for Cause and Effect due to its lack of focus and overly processed sound, I will never rap my head around people around here who make comments like the one you responded to or the ones who claim Prince hasn't done anything great since the 1980s. Lotusflow3r had some real gems on it. For this type of sound, I think Wall of Berlin does a much better job of capturing what Prince is trying to accomplish. Cause and Effect is underwhelming to me. It's just not my thing.

I know this is all subjective, but after Colonized Mind, songs like From the Lotus, Back to the Lotus, Love Like Jazz, Boom, $ and Dreamer can hold their own against many of the songs that Prince produced in his heyday, as could Dance 4 Me and the ballads on MPLSound.

2elijah said:

Yes that's it. Some things in life you just have to go through and experience in order to gain a certain kind of wisdom. There's a lot of Power in making it through. I mean how many times in our lives can we look back at certain situations in our past and feel we could have easily died. Even though my past "prodigal" years where short lived, I can still look back at a lot of choices i made that could of lead to my destruction. Not that i have some how "arrived" or anything, i definitely still have struggles, but it's different - it's all about the renewing of my mind now.
Oh man, sorry for just going on and on. This stuff can get real deep when you truly begin dissecting.

Which other Prince song reminds you about: "Cause & Effect"... ?

here's the list of what some of you have answered already:



- Play In The Sunshine
- Rock And Roll Is Alive (And It Lives In Minneapolis)
- The One U Wanna C
- Strays Of The World
- Horny Toad
- Can't Stop This Feeling I Got
- Lion of judah
- Da Bang
- Live 4 Love
- No More Candy 4 U
- New Power Generation (song)
- Cyber Single
- Family Name

some of you have answered in this thread already...

or here in this... http://prince.org/msg/7/331156 (locked now)

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I do think some are just programmed to hate this current output.

I mean, we just had a [strike]thanksgiving[strike] wedding feast sized pile of dog shit in P&G and here Prince gives us at least an off-brand ritz cracker like treat and still just straight hate flows almost immediately. There's no cheese on the cracker, but it's not a dog turd either.

Not really feeling the chorus, but the music is pretty hot, actually.

Ok, kinda reminiscent of the end of Family Name, but still, bashing Prince as if there is nothing to this song is silly. The musical arrangement seems inspired, if not the songwriting. Prince is a talented MF and it still shows.

BlackandRising said:

That's funny because one of the reasons I dug TGE immediately was because of the "sheen and bombastic-ness" of it. Even though it was over-produced beyond belief, it stood in strong contrast to the "shmaltzy" quality of D&P and o(+>. There was something nasty and raw beneath that layer of polish that I really dug.

I've listened to it 3 times and while I stopped being a prince fan long ago, its okay. Though for what he use to put out its not even a throw away level b side material.

Klyph said:

I'm just curious, what do you consider the best songs that Prince has written in his career? I'd like a frame of reference for your argument.

As I said earlier, I am not feeling Cause and Effect, but there are many songs that Prince has written in the last 10 years that I absolutely love. In fact, though I grew up on the 1980's/early 1990's stuff, I can honestly say that when I listen to Prince (which is often), I usually listen to music from the last 10 years. Except for the LoveSexy and SOTT albums, I really don't listen to the 1980s or 1970s stuff unless it comes up on a playlist or shuffle. I think Prince has displayed greatness in every decade he's released music. That's why I said I was curious as to what you use as your criteria for dismissing the last decade's worth of music.

Not quite sure I hear '9 to 5' in this song but the other day, while on pain meds because of a recent surgery, I swear 'When Doves Cry' (one on my personal favorites) was somehow derived from 'Cat's in the Cradle'. (That or the pain meds are a lot better than I thought. )

Klyph said:

I think you are not alone in feeling that way.

To me it was not raw at all, and while I immediately liked some of the songs, I took me a while to get over feeling disappointed that was not going to finally unleash his unstoppable creativity but was simply going to do glossy pop songs.

utopia7 said:

The production is flawless? WTF??! I would LOVE to know who some of your favorite producers are cause this is FAR from flawless. Its compressed as hell and it has that "vocals mixed too loud, music too low" thing Prince seems to be in love with. And "several different movements" does not equal musical effort if those movements are bowels.

Why does 1:10-1:12 remind me of "Rockin'Robin"? duh duh, duh duh duh...(He rocks in the treetop all day long...)

And "I am what I am.." reminds me Popeye...

minneapolisFunq said:

exactly... it's not his best... but at least it's better then Purple & Gold. Witch wasn't even a SONG... it was a CHEER...

Listened to C&E a couple of times... not terribly... not really good... it's the same 'clean' pro-tools tune... 1; he needs to stop with that voice... and just SING! 2; he needs to do some live drums on it... that's what makes a track come 'to life!' just my 2 cents... just analog record it... wouldn't mind a little HIS here and there... little rough recording wouldn't hurt anybody Prince.

EDIT:
Why is it that when u hear this track (or other ProTools)... and then go to 'lets say' Little Red Corvette from Montreax... that's just PERFECT! He still can do it... but only LIVE?! come on man... just record a album LIVE... U sound much more ALIVE!
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