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Reply #390 posted 02/26/10 8:21am

SPOOKYGAS

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LondonStyle said:

SPOOKYGAS said:




$ 20,000,000 now there is a statement and it begs a question.

the media...dont make me laugh... its been a fucking disgraceful circus... those poor children.


What's this got to do with Prince's new music i don't know....anyway your wrong but if it makes you happy to think this way about MJ go ahead and enjoy!



U mentioned the kiddy fiddler..not me...$20,000,000...why.
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Reply #391 posted 02/26/10 8:21am

TheVoid

Actually, I like it lol


It's not a 'classic' Prince song, but if he fits into a album where all the songs compliment each other along with this song, it could end up being a brilliant album.



I like it shrug
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Reply #392 posted 02/26/10 8:22am

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I like the jam parts but the song is itself is pretty weak. Like 'Wall of Berlin" in a way. His songwriting has been really scattershot lately.
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Reply #393 posted 02/26/10 8:23am

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SPOOKYGAS said:

erik319 said:



I love you.



love yourself first then it will be so much easier..not everybody can be on top.


Prince has a new song. Shouldn't you be ODing off of it by now? Why so glum chum?
I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart.
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Reply #394 posted 02/26/10 8:23am

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if would have woken up that early to hear that I would have been pissed lol

but mmkay... music
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P*$$y so bad, if u throw it into da air, it would turn into sunshine!!! whistle
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Reply #395 posted 02/26/10 8:24am

TheVoid

It reminds me a lot of "Play in the Sunshine" boxed



Well, it does! lol
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Reply #396 posted 02/26/10 8:24am

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erik319 said:

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love yourself first then it will be so much easier..not everybody can be on top.


I love myself on a regular basis. that's why I need glasses.


I would have thought that the sight of yourself would hinder the end product. Or are U saying that U are indeed a wanker?
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Reply #397 posted 02/26/10 8:26am

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CallMeCarrie said:

erik319 said:



You filthy little minx! kitty

If you wanna see what I look like, click on my username. You won't be disappointed. raaaaar!


falloff

In my head you are so much more like Andy Whitfield (of the Starz Spartaus fame), but I like redheads, too!


smile I would show you what I really look like, but I'm just too damn pretty.

Anyway, so this new song, what do you think? razz
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Reply #398 posted 02/26/10 8:26am

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Erik and spookyFam,

please take your arguing to Orgnotes...

peace. wink
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Reply #399 posted 02/26/10 8:28am

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Mars23 said:

Unconfirmed lyrics courtesy of orger; IstenSzek:




"cause and effect"

i am here. where are you?
ladies and gentlemen.....

cause and effect
hey, hey, hey

if had the chance to do it all again
i wouldn't change a thing, except my next of kin
there's something on the tip of my tongue
-got a taste for sin
if you stamp your passport full of regret
you have nothing to remember but a lot to forget
leave no enemies, leave no dead

made in the image of cause and effect
to no other man am i the subject
i am what i am because & effect
cause & effect
hey, hey, hey

If i could talk to myself back then right now
i'd say 'son you might wanna, stick around
something amazing is about to go down'
if i could leave myself just 1 little note
one that husbands and fathers wrote
it say 'you can either be a superstar or grow up,
but not both'

made in the image of cause and effect
to no other man am i the subject
i am what i am because & effect
cause & effect
hey, hey, he

cause and effect
ladies and gentlemen
rock/roll rock/roll

i am here. where are you?
ooooh oooh. haha. hey eh heh oh hoh

don't let them say your paper's worth more than gold
i see a generation lay down before they get old
and getting endlessly sold
you need compassion for one another
righter than wrong
that's what needs to be at the heart of every past
and future soul song

made in the image of cause and effect
to no other man am i the subject
i am what i am because & effect
cause & effect
hey, hey, he

look at y'all. brains splattered
all over...moneyapolis

ladies and gentlemen
rock/roll rock/roll
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Reply #400 posted 02/26/10 8:29am

GraffitiKid

SPOOKYGAS said:

CallMeCarrie said:

Where is Ernest? I always appreciate his perspective....


For fuck sake...the last thing we need is another frustrated wannabee.


fryingpan Hey lay off Ernest he's coo cool
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Reply #401 posted 02/26/10 8:29am

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Cool! I just love it when Prince does these kinds of things.

FIRST IMPRESSION as the song ends is "My God it's doing my head in" head bangers rocker ball! But.....the whole song has too many different elements to brush it all with one brush.

I like the lyrics, Prince's music is always intelligent. Of course he has profound nuances in there. "I am here...indeed...where are you????" Music does seem to run from love to anger. The interlude at 2.05 is hard but powerful and wonderful to enjoy when you need to rid yourself of excess energy.

2.41 returns to the spiritual accoustic sound. As if you've found your way back home after being hopelessly lost.

From 3.53 it's really funky which flows into an added element of unpredictability. Great! The first end part is just too heavy for me. I can take speed up to 160 bpm but not heavy rock guitar but the real end is clean.

Once again Prince shows his versatility in blending different musical styles perfectly. Keep em coming and thanks Current radio and Mars for the links. razz

Now I'm gonna watch under the Cherry Moon on tv last night, which I've never seen. cool
[Edited 2/26/10 8:30am]
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Reply #402 posted 02/26/10 8:29am

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

SPOOKYGAS said:




love yourself first then it will be so much easier..not everybody can be on top.


Prince has a new song. Shouldn't you be ODing off of it by now? Why so glum chum?


Another one in the net...what floats that haters brain of yours 'chum' not a lot of love from the next of kin? Not a lot of dirty sin? Cum on now entertain us with a typical Hatrinaesque whim... oh wait awhile get in line all the wannabees wanna get in.
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Reply #403 posted 02/26/10 8:29am

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NeoGeo24bit said:

Review of the song "Cause and Effect"

The first half minute or so is interesting, I like the poppy breaks here and there. But the longer it went on, the less I liked it. It has the problem a lot of later era Prince songs have... it just rambles on and on with no pure structure at all. A song like I Could Never Take The Place of Your Man has a beautiful structure... hook... chorus... and real lyrics you can understand. That's why it's a great song and will be loved and remembered forever.

But Cause and Effect doesn't have any of that. It just rambles on, sort of like Rock 'n Roll is Alive and Cybersingle. At the end Prince throws in a token guitar solo but that can't save this song at all. There's no real structure, hook, chorus, and the lyrics are too self centered and preachy to ever be a hit or a fan favorite.

It was definitely embarrassing to hear so many great songs on The Current (Sloop John B!) and then hear this dreck from Prince, a rock 'n roll hall of famer. Listening to Cause and Effect, you'd never know Prince was a great musician. He should be writing songs that are meaningful... at the very least, songs that are well structured and enjoyable, especially after so many years of making music. I think he's spending too much time reading the Bible and hanging out alone at Paisley Park. It's time for Prince to make some music that touches people... and not in ways they'd rather not be touched. smile

I'm gonna go listen to Pet Sounds now.

Final Grade for Cause and Effect: D-
Final Grade for Sloop John B: A+
[Edited 2/26/10 6:16am]


I agree with that. There are too many changes in the song so it's hard to connect with. Sad to say confused Prince writes the best songs when he is telling a story of true love and vulnerability. It was just ok for me, Randy Jackson reply
[Edited 2/26/10 6:49am]

It sounds like Prince is loving himself and God in this song. That's true Love IMO. This song makes me feel positive about him and where he's going.
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Reply #404 posted 02/26/10 8:30am

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herb4 said:

I like the jam parts but the song is itself is pretty weak. Like 'Wall of Berlin" in a way. His songwriting has been really scattershot lately.


And this would differ from any creative endeavor by anyone on earth in what way?

"Scattershot" is the nature of art. It's just more pronounced in Prince's case because he puts so much out there.
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Reply #405 posted 02/26/10 8:30am

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Maaaannnnn, you guys... disbelief

As I read through some of these "comments", it makes me sad. I mean, I realize we are all here to give our opinions on Prince and his work, but dayum! A lot of people on here are just plain cruel and maybe should consider logging out for good on the org.

Yes, the Viking song was not his best work. Ok, we know that. I accept that Prince too, as every other artist in the world, has good works and bad works. Can we please get over the bashing? I thought we were all here because we, at some point, felt it necessary to join a website for PRINCE FANS. If you have decided you are no longer a fan, and you think that everything he does sucks, then please- by all means- leave.
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Reply #406 posted 02/26/10 8:32am

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thedance said:

Erik and spookyFam,

please take your arguing to Orgnotes...

peace. wink


and U keep your recycled nonSENSE 2 someone who actually gives a shite...ie no fucker..get it.
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Reply #407 posted 02/26/10 8:33am

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holldoll5 said:

Maaaannnnn, you guys... disbelief

If you have decided you are no longer a fan, and you think that everything he does sucks, then please- by all means- leave.

I don't like this song, why should I leave??

I still like the wb catalogue deeply.

Please respect other opinions than the "always" positive.
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Reply #408 posted 02/26/10 8:33am

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erik319 said:

CallMeCarrie said:



falloff

In my head you are so much more like Andy Whitfield (of the Starz Spartaus fame), but I like redheads, too!


smile I would show you what I really look like, but I'm just too damn pretty.

Anyway, so this new song, what do you think? razz



It's growing on me the more I listen, but it's not perfect. I just like to sing along to his songs and get into what he's saying, but I don't think I can with this one. I has some nice musical moments. I like the guitar towards the end and I think it's pretty at the part where he is using the auto tone (the music not the damn auto tone). I love Prince, though - so I'll keep listening and hope the next one touches me!
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Reply #409 posted 02/26/10 8:34am

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SPOOKYGAS said:

thedance said:

Erik and spookyFam,

please take your arguing to Orgnotes...

peace. wink


and U keep your recycled nonSENSE 2 someone who actually gives a shite...ie no fucker..get it.


Mods please jump in and save the day ....or at least this thread... lol
Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
James Brown & Michael Jackson RIP, your music still lives with us!
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Reply #410 posted 02/26/10 8:34am

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holldoll5 said:

Maaaannnnn, you guys... disbelief

As I read through some of these "comments", it makes me sad. I mean, I realize we are all here to give our opinions on Prince and his work, but dayum! A lot of people on here are just plain cruel and maybe should consider logging out for good on the org.

Yes, the Viking song was not his best work. Ok, we know that. I accept that Prince too, as every other artist in the world, has good works and bad works. Can we please get over the bashing? I thought we were all here because we, at some point, felt it necessary to join a website for PRINCE FANS. If you have decided you are no longer a fan, and you think that everything he does sucks, then please- by all means- leave.



To be frank I been looking on this site since 01 and this is probably the most cohesive set of reviews I have seen (for one new song) in a LONG time.
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Reply #411 posted 02/26/10 8:35am

darklotus69

i love this song sick guitar work prince cant wait to here it live
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Reply #412 posted 02/26/10 8:35am

bfunk

Backwards lyric at about the 3:28 mark is "Contracts just make you smaller"
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Reply #413 posted 02/26/10 8:35am

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DaddySmooth said:

People expect to much from Prince. 20 tears ago EVERYONE would have loved this song. Now, it seems everyone want's to be a critic. This is just Prince having some fun. It's not meant to be the next number one single! Just enjoy it for what it is, a cool rock workout.



Lest we forget- the thread says Listen to and discuss.

I've read many valid reasons why people think the song is not up to par for an artist of Prince's stature. Most of the posts in favor of the song say something thought provoking like, "I like it", or it's fonky (with an O) or some well thought out crap like that.

The reason he gave the premier to the MPLS radio station is for people to tell him what they thought. Hopefull so he doesn't make the mistake of releasing this tune nationally. Prince, my man. We all want you to come out both guns blazing so release something else. NOT THIS!
"If you wanted to buy a Sam Cooke album, where would you go?"
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Reply #414 posted 02/26/10 8:35am

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paisleypark4 said:

holldoll5 said:

Maaaannnnn, you guys... disbelief

As I read through some of these "comments", it makes me sad. I mean, I realize we are all here to give our opinions on Prince and his work, but dayum! A lot of people on here are just plain cruel and maybe should consider logging out for good on the org.

Yes, the Viking song was not his best work. Ok, we know that. I accept that Prince too, as every other artist in the world, has good works and bad works. Can we please get over the bashing? I thought we were all here because we, at some point, felt it necessary to join a website for PRINCE FANS. If you have decided you are no longer a fan, and you think that everything he does sucks, then please- by all means- leave.



To be frank I been looking on this site since 01 and this is probably the most cohesive set of reviews I have seen (for one new song) in a LONG time.


Really...your joking right... lol
Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
James Brown & Michael Jackson RIP, your music still lives with us!
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Reply #415 posted 02/26/10 8:36am

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Genesia said:

herb4 said:

I like the jam parts but the song is itself is pretty weak. Like 'Wall of Berlin" in a way. His songwriting has been really scattershot lately.


And this would differ from any creative endeavor by anyone on earth in what way?

"Scattershot" is the nature of art. It's just more pronounced in Prince's case because he puts so much out there.


I know what you mean, but I just don't know what to think about this song. Why release this now? It doesn't sound like a single, it kinda sounds like a barmy album track. I just think it's an odd thing to release. There's been the whole build up (I know it's only in the Prince community, but still), and the end result for me is puzzlement.

I'm just glad we've all got something new to get our teeth into and fall out about smile
blah blah blah
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Reply #416 posted 02/26/10 8:37am

TheVoid

holldoll5 said:

Maaaannnnn, you guys... disbelief

As I read through some of these "comments", it makes me sad. I mean, I realize we are all here to give our opinions on Prince and his work, but dayum! A lot of people on here are just plain cruel and maybe should consider logging out for good on the org.

Yes, the Viking song was not his best work. Ok, we know that. I accept that Prince too, as every other artist in the world, has good works and bad works. Can we please get over the bashing? I thought we were all here because we, at some point, felt it necessary to join a website for PRINCE FANS. If you have decided you are no longer a fan, and you think that everything he does sucks, then please- by all means- leave.


I've heard of sugar-coating but gURRRLLL, you done drowned it in the vat. lol
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Reply #417 posted 02/26/10 8:38am

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erik319 said:

Genesia said:



And this would differ from any creative endeavor by anyone on earth in what way?

"Scattershot" is the nature of art. It's just more pronounced in Prince's case because he puts so much out there.


I know what you mean, but I just don't know what to think about this song. Why release this now? It doesn't sound like a single, it kinda sounds like a barmy album track. I just think it's an odd thing to release.



That's the genius of it. Only Prince cold do this. Love it or hate it.
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Reply #418 posted 02/26/10 8:38am

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thedance said:

holldoll5 said:

Maaaannnnn, you guys... disbelief

If you have decided you are no longer a fan, and you think that everything he does sucks, then please- by all means- leave.

I don't like this song, why should I leave??

I still like the wb catalogue deeply.

Please respect other opinions than the "always" positive.




It's not about being 'always positive'. It's about being outright mean and going above and beyond any opinion to degrade. And I'm not speaking about everyone on here-- but there are a few who I just wonder why they are here in the first place. That's all.
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Reply #419 posted 02/26/10 8:38am

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erik319 said:

Genesia said:



And this would differ from any creative endeavor by anyone on earth in what way?

"Scattershot" is the nature of art. It's just more pronounced in Prince's case because he puts so much out there.


I know what you mean, but I just don't know what to think about this song. Why release this now? It doesn't sound like a single, it kinda sounds like a barmy album track. I just think it's an odd thing to release. There's been the whole build up (I know it's only in the Prince community, but still), and the end result for me is puzzlement.

I'm just glad we've all got something new to get our teeth into and fall out about smile


Because this is how he do. It's a trial balloon. shrug

And I don't doubt that he enjoys seeing people lose their damn minds, for good or bad. lol
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