paisleypark4 said:

Yes its spot-on perfect.
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I like it. It's personal and uplifting. Great groove, great guitar work, slow bridge.

Thanks Prince.

erik319 said:

And if you can't reach him, you can call me ANYTIME!!

LondonStyle said:

Hehe - on point. Anyone can be an armchair critic!

swanny said:

i wonder why people don't like "lotusflower" more. i can be quite
critical of his work and i'll say it when i don't like something,
but that album is just brilliant imo.

mplsound, i don't care for. i like a few tracks but it doens't
feel like an album and there's some poor stuff on there.

but the lotusflower title disc is a real good, tight, cohesive
prince album all the way. whenever i listen to it, which is a
lot, i enjoy it the same way i enjoyed the gold experience when
it was finally released. start to finish a good effort with a
few quirky things you keep going back to. straight up solid and
beautiful vocal performances, songs with melodies that stick in
your mind and top notch, grade a playing on all instruments.

i can see why people don't like some of the other stuff he's
released since his break from warners. like, i understand how
people would hate TRC, because of the lyrics or the narration
but it's a superb album in all respects to me (you guessed it,
i love TRC a tremendous amount).

but "lotusflower" doesn't have any of those things that might
rub people the wrong way. it doesn't outstay it's welcome on
any single song, it's got an overarching concept that doesn't
infringe on the separate songs and it's just, well, good

not trying to tell anyone they should like something or that
their taste is wrong or anything but i'm just curious why
people keep saying that prince lost his skills many years
ago and releases nothing but sub par material.

he just releases a lot more and some of it is questionable,
but at the end of the day, i'm still happy with a few solid
enjoyable albums once in a while and a whole bunch of so-so
songs that i enjoy on occasion.

if he'd put all that stuff in the vault i'd be hunting it
out on bootlegs. he's just releasing it now in one form or
another, and that's not a bad thing. even if not all of it
is to my tastes.

rwn said:

I hear u...lol....There are some folks who sincerely don't like the song..And I can respect that....But you read comments from folks who have been shitting on Prince for close to a decade...You have to wonder why they do it to themselves...The hyperbole on both sides is getting ridiculous...

My own thoughts of the song?...The beginning is cheesy, but it heats up....I dig the guitar works and the ending is killer...Overall a very see-saw type song with some cool moments...But certainly it's not as horrific as some of the regulars are making it out to be...

That honor is reserved for the "fight song..."

violetblues said:

Well, its one point of view

SPOOKYGAS said:

What on earth is wrong with that review?

funkyhead said:

Interesting. This post really highlights how subjective music is. I am not crazy about Cause-Effect after a couple of listens. However, I fail to see what is so great about this song? Prince has produced several songs in the last few years that I think are far superior to this. I'm not saying this is a bad song. It's cool, but to say Prince doesn't have it in him to do anything like this is a stretch. Of course, it's my subjective opinion but Lotusflow3r alone had a number of tracks that I would listen to over this song any day.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I don't think he's gonna call...




Erik

LondonStyle said:

I don't know... Beyonce won how many Grammys? Does that mean she's a musical genius too? You know how many Beyonce albums I have? None. But she's popular I guess, so people do enjoy it.

I'm sure Prince records so much music, some is recorded just because he's a musician and records all day. So of course every song isn't going to be a hit, or a cult/fan favorite. But Cause and Effect is in no way album worthy. If he wanted to release some outtakes, alternative versions, etc, then this song would be welcomed. But not as a "hot new track from Prince." The Lotusflow3r sessions were much more exciting. The response to Crimson & Clover, Wall of Berlin and Colonized Mind was much better.
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Damn, this post is really something.

NeoGeo24bit said:

I agree. I still have not heard it however I think the previous thread helped out ALOT because I am seeing alot more mature reviews of this tune. It sucks doesnt SAY anything..alot of things can suck..I think "chocolate sucks" but it may be good to you. Im 28, I don't have time to read one line drivel from a teenager or I would be on Perez Hilton.

Anyways, I do AGREE that Prince does have a bunch of yes men around him and it does indeed show. No one is giving him a sense of direction musically, and he probably does not NEED it, however when it comes to production there should be somebody at least saying "HEY..come on now with that mess... At least someone on his calibur musically.


And hearing that clip of Adonis and Bathsheeba, I think Susan was incorrect, I LOVED IT. Sound beautiful to me.

On first listen... I like it!

It is a bit in the vein of C&D but more developed and the hooks are fierce!

Yes...nothing ground breaking but a cool song

and yes it does sound like Parton's 9to5! hahahaha

After the break it reminds me a bit of Dave Matthews Band

Didnt it say somewhere that this was a unreleased track? So maybe it is from 95-96

futurebaybeemama said:

The fantastic thing about Prince is we all follow him 4 a variety of reasons.

I've never hailed his work as being the ultimate exponent of lyrical/musical perfection.

He intrigued me through essence and diversity.

His work simply represents one mans expression.

His music inspired me to explore my own creativity.

He is but an artist on a journey. Conveying his experience 4 those that wish 2 listen.

Not everybody is going 2 "Get It".....

Artists create. sometimes our choice of language is obscured by our own personal bias/restrictions.

We learn, we evolve.

Prince had his moment of Global sync.

Maybe there is still part of him that Loves his fans approval/validation.

However, I think sometimes his own creative needs come first

No matter the cost.

IstenSzek said:

amen to that

murph said:

The only reason I can find for what these people do is that they love to be miserable. What else can you be than a loser if you love to feel that way. BTW I don´t love the new song, it's OK. There are a lot of songs on Lotusflow3r/Mplsound I like much,much more.

bellanoche said:

no, wait, that post was only in relation to "cause and effect"

for instance "boom" tramples all over this imo.

but still, this is a great song, damn

IstenSzek said:

I totally disagree! You can't just take one line out of context (well, you can - but it doesn't help in the search for meaning). Look at the entire thought:

if you stamp your passport full of regret
you have nothing to remember but a lot to forget

He's saying he doesn't regret the past (and that others shouldn't, either). That it's all a part of who he is. Cause and effect. Ya dig?

I quite like the music. Maybe Prince should consider doing instrumental albums for a few years until he gets his head screwed on straight.

erik319 said:

Yeah I know but at least when all is said and done, we'll know in spite of it all, we kept trying!

CallMeCarrie said:

OH LAWD! That's funny! Well done sir!!!

violetblues said:

IstenSzek said:

This post is spot on for me in many ways. I really agree with your points about the Lotusflow3r and MPLSound albums. I never cared what others thought of Prince's music, especially not on this site where being negative seems to be the "in" thing, but I was genuinely surprised that Lotusflow3r was not better received. I think there is some great stuff on that album, and a few good songs on MPLSound, namely the ballads on that one. However, the musicianship, creativity, and composition on Lotusflow3r made it one of my favorite Prince albums. Like you, I have no problem stating when I am not digging something that P releases, but in the case of Lotusflow3r, I didn't have any major issues with that album. I usually play it all the way through.

CallMeCarrie said:

No quite.

Pause & Eject. Now, that's funny.

Even if I don't agree.

erik319 said:

Thank you for your support!

Identity said:

... Is now the official title!

I like the direction - guitar but the song is not one that deserved this much hype.Then again, all he did was put it on one local station...he knows people are going to go beserk here which makes me believe he's reading or has someone read the reactions.

So, if you're listening - I loved Lotus, but you need to check out Jesse's Verbal Penetration. That first track is what you need to replicate!

Genesia said:

someone else pointed that out to me already and i've come to see
the error of my ways, lol.

it's not about his 80s work at all. the song is about growin up
and maturing.

if anything, he says he'd like to tell his former self that he's
up for an amazing ride.

he seems to regret some of his actions though, but hey, we all
do. i know i've wished in the past that i could go back and have
a sit down with my former self and say "listen up, that is
probably not the best idea you've got right there".

Once again, I waited in hope of a return to anything resembling song writing with substance and class.I did not receive once again.Get back to basics Prince.You can't justify this disposable non sense. Anyhow, I'm glad on the otherhand that today you had to pay a settlement for your inconsiderate nature towards your loyal European fans. Ouuch!!!That must hurt the purle pocket.