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Reply #90 posted 02/26/10 8:05am

Gav

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laurarichardson said:

Gav said:



Uptown

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Can you name a fan that sued? And did Uptown not win the lawsuit and then go out of business.


No, it was settled out of court and they carried on for some time, in fact releasing "The Vault" post settlement.

Prince rarely gets to court, he either settles or walks away after receiving a counter-threat (as was the case with PFU)
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Reply #91 posted 02/26/10 9:45am

joseph8

I love watching Prince perform but that assless pants ish disbelief

I tuned that abomination OFF. Could not/would not watch! mad
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Reply #92 posted 02/26/10 9:48am

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joseph8 said:

I love watching Prince perform but that assless pants ish disbelief

I tuned that abomination OFF. Could not/would not watch! mad


What assless pants? I was too busy watching Diamond & Pearl... wink

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Reply #93 posted 02/26/10 10:29am

NelsonR

when he had all the pics of himself removed from this site...bold mf'r
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Reply #94 posted 02/26/10 10:33am

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Cravens said:

motherfunka said:




I would have to say that the two hired nannys,that were sisters, that claimed the Dr's pulled the plug when it was not necessary to do so qualifies this as a scandal by definition. Indeed it was a personal tragedy for Prince and Mayte. Like I said in an earlier post, I still find it odd that he was doing concerts out at Paisley the same week that happened.


Yeah, but as long as there was no police involved and no legal actions taken, I think it's only fair to discard those things as "bullshit". The western legal system aims to let anybody be innocent until proven guilty of a crime. This "no smoke without a fire" really is the worst kind of buzz and can probably break a man (Michael Jackson is a prime example, no?).

And I don't think that it can be any sort of scandal, that Prince didn't grief the way you and I might do. Who knows, if Prince in reality only thought he could work himself through the pain, plunge into his music and escape in well structured music in stead of the chaotic reality?
I mean, I've been to funerals of dear friends (a bit too often), but didn't cry .. that doesn't mean that I didn't feel pain or grief, only that I don't grief like they do on the telly, as television characters make bad tv if all their emotions are turned inward (and with nothing to look at).

Simply, it's unfair to call it a scandal if a man you and I don't know reacts to pain in a private way. Sure, one could say that a tragedy like that perchance should leave imprints on his behaviour (well, he did become a JW) or (more importently) in his lyrics and music, but I don't think anyone can be allowed the arrogance to think there's a "right" way of grieving (or doing anything for that matter) for anybody else but themselves.



From an earlier post:
scan·dal (skndl)
n.
[list]1. A publicized incident that brings about disgrace or offends the moral sensibilities of society: a drug scandal that forced the mayor's resignation.
2. A person, thing, or circumstance that causes or ought to cause disgrace or outrage: a politician whose dishonesty is a scandal; considered the housing shortage a scandal.
3. Damage to reputation or character caused by public disclosure of immoral or grossly improper behavior; disgrace.
4. Talk that is damaging to one's character; malicious gossip.[/list]

There were police involved and there was an investigation, but the nannys were ordered by a court of law to not talk about it publicly after the story broke in the tabloids. I have no opinion on whether it was right or wrong about what happened because I don't know all the facts. As far as him doing concerts the same week, I just said I found it odd. I didn't say Prince should or shouldn't have done them. Just an opinion, and opinions are like assholes...you know the rest!
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Reply #95 posted 02/26/10 11:10am

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RodeoSchro said:

Changing his name to a symbol.

I thought it was cool, but most of America didn't.


Agreed, Every comedian and their mother was making fun of him. I can't count how many times I've had people ask me "What's up with that?"
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Reply #96 posted 02/26/10 3:35pm

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joseph8 said:

I love watching Prince perform but that assless pants ish disbelief

I tuned that abomination OFF. Could not/would not watch! mad


I actually liked this performance, Gett Off live.... cool.

but those assless pants were shocking alright, I think Marilyn Manson (yuck) did something similar a few years later. (?)
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Reply #97 posted 02/26/10 3:40pm

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thedance said:

joseph8 said:

I love watching Prince perform but that assless pants ish disbelief

I tuned that abomination OFF. Could not/would not watch! mad


I actually liked this performance, Gett Off live.... cool.

but those assless pants were shocking alright, I think Marilyn Manson (yuck) did something similar a few years later. (?)




Marilyn Manson has the ugliest ass in the music industry. He ought to never ever wear ass less anything for the remainder of his earthly days.
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Reply #98 posted 02/27/10 8:32pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

Marilyn Manson has the ugliest ass in the music industry.


lol True.

Prince is definately more sexxy.....



.... sexier than than this scary guy..... Not sure if I wanna see this scary guy's butt. lol




credits: Pics are from MTV / the most shocking musical tv performances.


http://www.mtv.com/photos...hoto.jhtml
[Edited 2/27/10 20:33pm]
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Reply #99 posted 02/27/10 9:25pm

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thedance said:

Prince could never beat Britney Spears or Michael Jackson when it comes to SCANDALS, (thank God) biggrin

but still:



what was in your opinion the biggest scandal in Prince's career????




- performing the "Dirty Mind" songs on stage in his underwear?

- performing "Gett Off" on MTV in assless pants?

- the 1985 "We Are The World" incident, Prince's refuse to be participating?

- removing a youtube video of a dancing baby, dancing to "Let's Go Crazy"?

- the threats and lawsuits against fansites?

- to sue piratebay together with Village People?

- the Lotusflower.com $77 payment fiasco?




- or: something else.... ?


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The Org? lol cool
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Reply #100 posted 03/03/10 9:34am

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Wow may point is that out of all the b.s comments about lawsuits concerning fans or fansites. We only know of one!!!







Gav said:

laurarichardson said:


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Can you name a fan that sued? And did Uptown not win the lawsuit and then go out of business.


No, it was settled out of court and they carried on for some time, in fact releasing "The Vault" post settlement.

Prince rarely gets to court, he either settles or walks away after receiving a counter-threat (as was the case with PFU)
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Reply #101 posted 03/03/10 9:49am

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rebelenterprise said:

Of course, his biggest "scandal" was the battle with Warner Bros. & the name-change. It was a career defining move...but in a way, it was positive.

Nowadays, his symbol is almost just as recognizable as the Warner Bros.' "WB" shield. It was a genius marketing strategy....He basically re-invented himself into a brand name, just as identifiable as the name "Prince". It was cool when he brought it back during the 3121 and Planet Earth eras...especially the Super Bowl.

There he was, in front of one of the largest crowds he ever played for at once, on a stage shaped as the symbol, ripping up the symbol guitar! He was rubbing it into the mainstream's faces...saying "ha, u made fun of the name, but hey, I'm still here." Now, when anyone 18 and up sees the symbol, they automatically know who it stands for. And everyone back in the day wondered what the hell the symbol meant... wink
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Very well put. At the time, Prince was deemed insane.
But in the long run, the symbol has definitely proved to be a positive
trademark that is now synonymous with his music.
I'm really glad that Prince recognised this and did not retire it
when he reverted back to his original name.

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Reply #102 posted 03/03/10 10:42am

NelsonR

disbanding the revolution,
though i honestly cannot see
them together again...would
be kindof cheesy.
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Reply #103 posted 03/04/10 2:28am

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laurarichardson said:

Wow may point is that out of all the b.s comments about lawsuits concerning fans or fansites. We only know of one!!!


You only know of one Laura because only one had the funds and the balls that got that far.

Prince uses lawsuit threats as a "bullying" technique sadly. He knows that fan sites and fanzines don't have the funds or the time to fight against him so they normally fold.

When they do fight back (PFU being a prime example) then he normally capitulates as he knows he's being unreasonable.

So in summary, Uptown was the only one that got to court but believe me, there's countless examples of where he's used lawyers to close fan supporting outlets - that's still lawsuit based intimidation, whichever way you look at it.

Yes there are bullshit comments about lawsuits but saying there was only one is a blinkered view.
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Reply #104 posted 03/04/10 2:31am

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RodeoSchro said:

Changing his name to a symbol.

I thought it was cool, but most of America didn't.


True. Most of the WORLD, that is.

Everything after 1995 is not a scandal, but more of a nuisance, as the world stopped caring. And stopped playing his new releases. And he became an 80s artist. A bit over the hillish, like James Brown in the 80s.
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Reply #105 posted 03/04/10 2:51am

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Vendetta1 said:

databank said:



The name change was SOOOOO COOL!!! biggrin
Prince was being a spoiled brat, protesting over a contract HE signed. I thought it was stupid then and I still think it's stupid.

Exactly nod
With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A....
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Reply #106 posted 03/04/10 3:01am

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Gav said:

laurarichardson said:

Wow may point is that out of all the b.s comments about lawsuits concerning fans or fansites. We only know of one!!!


You only know of one Laura because only one had the funds and the balls that got that far.

Prince uses lawsuit threats as a "bullying" technique sadly. He knows that fan sites and fanzines don't have the funds or the time to fight against him so they normally fold.

When they do fight back (PFU being a prime example) then he normally capitulates as he knows he's being unreasonable.

So in summary, Uptown was the only one that got to court but believe me, there's countless examples of where he's used lawyers to close fan supporting outlets - that's still lawsuit based intimidation, whichever way you look at it.

Yes there are bullshit comments about lawsuits but saying there was only one is a blinkered view.


nod
With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A....
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