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Thread started 02/22/10 4:03am

rainbowchild

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I miss buying a new Prince album....

....I bought the first Prince album I saw at Barnes and Noble yesterday-- the Batman soundtrack on sale for $5.99. No harm in having multiple copies of Prince albums. What have u done for Prince lately?
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Reply #1 posted 02/22/10 4:15am

erik319

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rainbowchild said:

....I bought the first Prince album I saw at Barnes and Noble yesterday-- the Batman soundtrack on sale for $5.99. No harm in having multiple copies of Prince albums. What have u done for Prince lately?


Does giving him $77 this year, free of charge for nothing in return count as doing something for him?

Not that I did that either, If Prince wants to release some actual, new, physical products, then I'd be happy to 'do something for him' by purchasing them.

The longer he dicks about with false promises, cancelled events and mystical bollocks, the longer my money stays in my wallet.

Erik
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Reply #2 posted 02/22/10 5:50am

Brofie

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erik319 said:

rainbowchild said:

....I bought the first Prince album I saw at Barnes and Noble yesterday-- the Batman soundtrack on sale for $5.99. No harm in having multiple copies of Prince albums. What have u done for Prince lately?


Does giving him $77 this year, free of charge for nothing in return count as doing something for him?

Not that I did that either, If Prince wants to release some actual, new, physical products, then I'd be happy to 'do something for him' by purchasing them.

The longer he dicks about with false promises, cancelled events and mystical bollocks, the longer my money stays in my wallet.

Erik


Is it true the $77 got people nothing? There was something. Not what most people expected and not all of what ws advertisied but I have all of the video and audio content that is on that site. I already have some of it in various non digital formats that did not have the quality of thoes clips in the revolving sphere so I was glad to get them as new downloads. Some of the clips Ihave seen nowhere else - liek the more recent material and the Jay Leno performance that wasnt aired.

OK - people got the T shirt. The Lotusflow3r album download and bonus tracks are there. Having the entire Sacrafice of Victor video downloaded is worth something to me. I paid over $100 for the japanese laserdisc about 15 years ago. If I had to buy all of that content - and I would if it were commercially available - it would have cost me way more than $77.

I find the people who want to "keep their money" actually don't have a grip on the value of the material or much money to spend on a luxury items like Prince music in the first place. If $77 is enough to scream about, you can't afford it.

So that is one intelligent way to to look at it.
[Edited 2/22/10 5:54am]
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Reply #3 posted 02/22/10 5:59am

Poiple

Bought Lotusflow3r and few weeks ago. Considered buying 21 Nights from Books A Million last weekend, but didn't want to pay $50 for it. May buy it from Barnes and Noble online for $33.
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Reply #4 posted 02/22/10 6:03am

thedance

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Brofie said:

Is it true the $77 got people nothing? There was something.


something yeah, but was it new?? Brofie? biggrin

I didn't pay the $77 - and I'm glad I didn't. What I have heard was the material on the lotusflower site was what we have bought earlier on - on vhs tapes, and old music videos etc. Nothing of interests for oldies fans.... cuz it is seen and owned already.
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Reply #5 posted 02/22/10 6:06am

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Brofie said:

erik319 said:



Does giving him $77 this year, free of charge for nothing in return count as doing something for him?

Not that I did that either, If Prince wants to release some actual, new, physical products, then I'd be happy to 'do something for him' by purchasing them.

The longer he dicks about with false promises, cancelled events and mystical bollocks, the longer my money stays in my wallet.

Erik


Is it true the $77 got people nothing? There was something. Not what most people expected and not all of what ws advertisied but I have all of the video and audio content that is on that site. I already have some of it in various non digital formats that did not have the quality of thoes clips in the revolving sphere so I was glad to get them as new downloads. Some of the clips Ihave seen nowhere else - liek the more recent material and the Jay Leno performance that wasnt aired.

OK - people got the T shirt. The Lotusflow3r album download and bonus tracks are there. Having the entire Sacrafice of Victor video downloaded is worth something to me. I paid over $100 for the japanese laserdisc about 15 years ago. If I had to buy all of that content - and I would if it were commercially available - it would have cost me way more than $77.

I find the people who want to "keep their money" actually don't have a grip on the value of the material or much money to spend on a luxury items like Prince music in the first place. If $77 is enough to scream about, you can't afford it.

So that is one intelligent way to to look at it.
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But what is exclusive there. It's alright mentioning the Sacrifice of Victor, but as you said, you already had it anyway. So do I, why would I want a compressed version.

The 3 CD's were released at a very reasonable price. Physical CD's with artwork.

I wouldn't have wanted a tshirt as I am a Prince fan for the music... But even if I weren't, many people never recieved them.

As far as I can tell, the only exclusives were 'the morning after' and a couple of promo videos. Should you really have to pay to see promotional material??

If you think $77 is a decent price for 1 exclusive track and a couple of vids, fine. There are many on here who would disagree though.

Erik
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Reply #6 posted 02/22/10 6:11am

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Poiple said:

Bought Lotusflow3r and few weeks ago. Considered buying 21 Nights from Books A Million last weekend, but didn't want to pay $50 for it. May buy it from Barnes and Noble online for $33.

Do you have a Half-Price Books near you? They have 21 Nights for $14.98 cool
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Reply #7 posted 02/22/10 7:40am

Poiple

fms said:

Poiple said:

Bought Lotusflow3r and few weeks ago. Considered buying 21 Nights from Books A Million last weekend, but didn't want to pay $50 for it. May buy it from Barnes and Noble online for $33.

Do you have a Half-Price Books near you? They have 21 Nights for $14.98 cool



Not to my knowledge, but I will definitely check it out! Thanks for the tip! biggrin
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Reply #8 posted 02/22/10 8:00am

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rainbowchild said:

....I bought the first Prince album I saw at Barnes and Noble yesterday-- the Batman soundtrack on sale for $5.99. No harm in having multiple copies of Prince albums. What have u done for Prince lately?


Why would you do that unless your copy is damaged or lost?. That's just stupid behaviour that suggests you're mentally challenged or something.
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Reply #9 posted 02/22/10 8:16am

Efan

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Brofie said:

I already have some of it in various non digital formats that did not have the quality of thoes clips in the revolving sphere so I was glad to get them as new downloads.


Other than the three-album set, what did you download off Lotusflower.com? There are no downloads there in the video section.
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Reply #10 posted 02/22/10 8:17am

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Brofie said:

erik319 said:



Does giving him $77 this year, free of charge for nothing in return count as doing something for him?

Not that I did that either, If Prince wants to release some actual, new, physical products, then I'd be happy to 'do something for him' by purchasing them.

The longer he dicks about with false promises, cancelled events and mystical bollocks, the longer my money stays in my wallet.

Erik


Is it true the $77 got people nothing? There was something. Not what most people expected and not all of what ws advertisied but I have all of the video and audio content that is on that site. I already have some of it in various non digital formats that did not have the quality of thoes clips in the revolving sphere so I was glad to get them as new downloads. Some of the clips Ihave seen nowhere else - liek the more recent material and the Jay Leno performance that wasnt aired.

OK - people got the T shirt. The Lotusflow3r album download and bonus tracks are there. Having the entire Sacrafice of Victor video downloaded is worth something to me. I paid over $100 for the japanese laserdisc about 15 years ago. If I had to buy all of that content - and I would if it were commercially available - it would have cost me way more than $77.

I find the people who want to "keep their money" actually don't have a grip on the value of the material or much money to spend on a luxury items like Prince music in the first place. If $77 is enough to scream about, you can't afford it.

So that is one intelligent way to to look at it.
[Edited 2/22/10 5:54am]


Completely agree. Its funny that the people that scream loudest about this apparent fiasco are the ones who also say they didn't partake! So, STFU - what's it got to do with you anyway?

I'm quite happy with what I got (my copies of Sacrifice of Victor and The Undertaker VHS tapes were stolen when my house was burgled, so it was nice to get those back) and I also received the t-shirt - managed to get all the way to the UK. I didn't even spend as much on this site as one good night out so, as Brofie says, you obviously can't afford it if you're going to miss $77!

But those that didn't even spend the money shouldn't complain - it had no value to you so you chose not to do it. Why keep bleating on about something you didn't do?!
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Reply #11 posted 02/22/10 8:21am

ernestsewell

rainbowchild said:

What have u done for Prince lately?

Told him the truth.
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Reply #12 posted 02/22/10 8:36am

Efan

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Mindflux said:


I'm quite happy with what I got (my copies of Sacrifice of Victor and The Undertaker VHS tapes were stolen when my house was burgled, so it was nice to get those back)


Seriously, where do you guys see a download section? At best, these videos are a $77 rental. When the site goes away without warning, you won't have them.

Unless you got them from other sources, which kind of negates your argument.
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Efan said:

Mindflux said:


I'm quite happy with what I got (my copies of Sacrifice of Victor and The Undertaker VHS tapes were stolen when my house was burgled, so it was nice to get those back)


Seriously, where do you guys see a download section? At best, these videos are a $77 rental. When the site goes away without warning, you won't have them.

Unless you got them from other sources, which kind of negates your argument.


There isn't one - but its not too difficult to save what you have viewed with Firefox
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Reply #14 posted 02/22/10 9:09am

ernestsewell

rainbowchild said:

....I bought the first Prince album I saw at Barnes and Noble yesterday-- the Batman soundtrack on sale for $5.99. No harm in having multiple copies of Prince albums. What have u done for Prince lately?

That's the dumbest thing I've heard in ages; to buy an album just because you want to "do something for Prince".

Batman is primarily owned by Warner Bros, which has a tight seal on the Batman franchise. But Barry Meyer thanks you for helping with his Bentley payments.

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Reply #15 posted 02/22/10 9:12am

ernestsewell

Efan said:

Brofie said:

I already have some of it in various non digital formats that did not have the quality of thoes clips in the revolving sphere so I was glad to get them as new downloads.


Other than the three-album set, what did you download off Lotusflower.com? There are no downloads there in the video section.

They probably had a program/plug-in that grabs flash content (like DownloadHelper plugin for Firefox); or they meant they were just glad to see videos they hadn't seen before. Prince offering download videos? BBBBWWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA falloff
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Reply #16 posted 02/22/10 9:13am

ernestsewell

Efan said:

Mindflux said:


I'm quite happy with what I got (my copies of Sacrifice of Victor and The Undertaker VHS tapes were stolen when my house was burgled, so it was nice to get those back)


Seriously, where do you guys see a download section? At best, these videos are a $77 rental. When the site goes away without warning, you won't have them.

Unless you got them from other sources, which kind of negates your argument.

There isn't one.
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Reply #17 posted 02/22/10 9:15am

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Brofie said:

erik319 said:



Does giving him $77 this year, free of charge for nothing in return count as doing something for him?

Not that I did that either, If Prince wants to release some actual, new, physical products, then I'd be happy to 'do something for him' by purchasing them.

The longer he dicks about with false promises, cancelled events and mystical bollocks, the longer my money stays in my wallet.

Erik


Is it true the $77 got people nothing? There was something. Not what most people expected and not all of what ws advertisied but I have all of the video and audio content that is on that site. I already have some of it in various non digital formats that did not have the quality of thoes clips in the revolving sphere so I was glad to get them as new downloads. Some of the clips Ihave seen nowhere else - liek the more recent material and the Jay Leno performance that wasnt aired.

OK - people got the T shirt. The Lotusflow3r album download and bonus tracks are there. Having the entire Sacrafice of Victor video downloaded is worth something to me. I paid over $100 for the japanese laserdisc about 15 years ago. If I had to buy all of that content - and I would if it were commercially available - it would have cost me way more than $77.

I find the people who want to "keep their money" actually don't have a grip on the value of the material or much money to spend on a luxury items like Prince music in the first place. If $77 is enough to scream about, you can't afford it.

So that is one intelligent way to to look at it.
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Not downloads i'm afraid, yes you can 'get' them but they are not there to download, anybody that has watches them has them, oops i've said to much.

this post will self destruct in 10, 9, 8.....





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Reply #18 posted 02/22/10 9:17am

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Completely agree. Its funny that the people that scream loudest about this apparent fiasco are the ones who also say they didn't partake! So, STFU - what's it got to do with you anyway?


Crystal Ball fiasco. Received it months after it was in the shops.
Didn't receive the war cassette.

NPG Music Club, never got the 4 albums as promised in the tourbook. Didn't get to see the soundcheck.

NPGMC year 3 - Paid for lifetime membership... then the club closed.

So yes, actually, I DO have a right to say what I think about his new rip off venture. If you think you got value for money, good for you, those purple blinkers really suit you.

As someone who has been ripped off/let down time and time again by Prince and his online ventures... and as a result didn't fall for his latest one, I am just as entitled to an opinion as those who would blindly box up their own grandmothers and ship them off to Paisley if the message came through on their neon telephones.

Glad you enjoyed lotu$£lower.con, hope you enjoy the automatic renewal. lol

Erik
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Reply #19 posted 02/22/10 9:17am

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bigd74 said:

i'm afraid, yes you can 'get' them but they are not there to download, anybody that has watches them has them, oops i've said to much.

this post will self destruct in 10, 9, 8.....

Never harm in saying you own something, even a bootleg.
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Reply #20 posted 02/22/10 9:31am

Mindflux

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erik319 said:

Mindflux said:



Completely agree. Its funny that the people that scream loudest about this apparent fiasco are the ones who also say they didn't partake! So, STFU - what's it got to do with you anyway?


Crystal Ball fiasco. Received it months after it was in the shops.
Didn't receive the war cassette.

NPG Music Club, never got the 4 albums as promised in the tourbook. Didn't get to see the soundcheck.

NPGMC year 3 - Paid for lifetime membership... then the club closed.

So yes, actually, I DO have a right to say what I think about his new rip off venture. If you think you got value for money, good for you, those purple blinkers really suit you.

As someone who has been ripped off/let down time and time again by Prince and his online ventures... and as a result didn't fall for his latest one, I am just as entitled to an opinion as those who would blindly box up their own grandmothers and ship them off to Paisley if the message came through on their neon telephones.

Glad you enjoyed lotu$£lower.con, hope you enjoy the automatic renewal. lol

Erik


Look, its easy - you got gripes with his other ventures. Poor you. I've been lucky - whenever I've spent money on Prince, I got what I expected. But then, I bought CB in the shops and I never joined NPGMC, so I've had limited experience of the more "risky" ventures.

Obviously others haven't been so lucky. So, you make your choice not to purchase in that manner again. Good for you. My perception of its value to me has nothing to do with purple blinkers, but the choice that I made that I could afford the $77 and I got some stuff I wanted - why that has to be a problem for you or a point of ridicule is beyond comprehension.

You know, there are people that swear they would never buy a BMW because of the problems they had with it.....yet the truth is that millions of other transactions still go well enough and the company keeps selling product. The same is true with any company offering a product and is true with Prince. So, I'm sorry you had such bad experiences, but I haven't had them and will continue to spend my money as I see fit!
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Reply #21 posted 02/22/10 9:39am

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Mindflux said:

erik319 said:



Crystal Ball fiasco. Received it months after it was in the shops.
Didn't receive the war cassette.

NPG Music Club, never got the 4 albums as promised in the tourbook. Didn't get to see the soundcheck.

NPGMC year 3 - Paid for lifetime membership... then the club closed.

So yes, actually, I DO have a right to say what I think about his new rip off venture. If you think you got value for money, good for you, those purple blinkers really suit you.

As someone who has been ripped off/let down time and time again by Prince and his online ventures... and as a result didn't fall for his latest one, I am just as entitled to an opinion as those who would blindly box up their own grandmothers and ship them off to Paisley if the message came through on their neon telephones.

Glad you enjoyed lotu$£lower.con, hope you enjoy the automatic renewal. lol

Erik


Look, its easy - you got gripes with his other ventures. Poor you. I've been lucky - whenever I've spent money on Prince, I got what I expected. But then, I bought CB in the shops and I never joined NPGMC, so I've had limited experience of the more "risky" ventures.

Obviously others haven't been so lucky. So, you make your choice not to purchase in that manner again. Good for you. My perception of its value to me has nothing to do with purple blinkers, but the choice that I made that I could afford the $77 and I got some stuff I wanted - why that has to be a problem for you or a point of ridicule is beyond comprehension.

You know, there are people that swear they would never buy a BMW because of the problems they had with it.....yet the truth is that millions of other transactions still go well enough and the company keeps selling product. The same is true with any company offering a product and is true with Prince. So, I'm sorry you had such bad experiences, but I haven't had them and will continue to spend my money as I see fit!



Good for you, and I am truly happy for you if your expectations were met. You can only go off your personal experiences and as this is the first online Prince venture you've participated in, and you're happy will the stuff, then i'm happy for you.

Perhaps my comments were harsher than they should have been, this was prompted by the 'STFU' comment. You know why I've become disgruntled with Prince's previous ventures and I now know you're happy with your first experience.

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Erik

ps.. you gonna renew? (only joking!! )
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Reply #22 posted 02/22/10 9:39am

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ernestsewell said:

rainbowchild said:

....I bought the first Prince album I saw at Barnes and Noble yesterday-- the Batman soundtrack on sale for $5.99. No harm in having multiple copies of Prince albums. What have u done for Prince lately?

That's the dumbest thing I've heard in ages; to buy an album just because you want to "do something for Prince".


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Reply #23 posted 02/22/10 11:50am

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OK - people got the T shirt.

You mean "OK - some people got the T Shirt"

These are some of the people who didn't:

http://prince.org/msg/13/324961
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Reply #24 posted 02/22/10 11:56am

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Brofie said:

OK - people got the T shirt.

You mean "OK - some people got the T Shirt"

These are some of the people who didn't:

http://prince.org/msg/13/324961

And never will.
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Reply #25 posted 02/22/10 12:09pm

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How about still admitting to be a hardcore fan, (even after the Warner fiasco. Even after the name change and the lies he told for the reason behind it.. Even after the return to Prince and admitting the "real" reason he changed it in the first place. Even after the poor (contract filling) releases. Even after the crappy websites and the money he took from 1000's of fans. Even after the lawsuits. Even after the removal of videos and pics.) isnt that enough?
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Reply #27 posted 02/22/10 1:53pm

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Brofie said:

erik319 said:



Does giving him $77 this year, free of charge for nothing in return count as doing something for him?

Not that I did that either, If Prince wants to release some actual, new, physical products, then I'd be happy to 'do something for him' by purchasing them.

The longer he dicks about with false promises, cancelled events and mystical bollocks, the longer my money stays in my wallet.

Erik


Is it true the $77 got people nothing? There was something. Not what most people expected and not all of what ws advertisied but I have all of the video and audio content that is on that site. I already have some of it in various non digital formats that did not have the quality of thoes clips in the revolving sphere so I was glad to get them as new downloads. Some of the clips Ihave seen nowhere else - liek the more recent material and the Jay Leno performance that wasnt aired.

OK - people got the T shirt. The Lotusflow3r album download and bonus tracks are there. Having the entire Sacrafice of Victor video downloaded is worth something to me. I paid over $100 for the japanese laserdisc about 15 years ago. If I had to buy all of that content - and I would if it were commercially available - it would have cost me way more than $77.

I find the people who want to "keep their money" actually don't have a grip on the value of the material or much money to spend on a luxury items like Prince music in the first place. If $77 is enough to scream about, you can't afford it.

So that is one intelligent way to to look at it.
[Edited 2/22/10 5:54am]



If I could "download" this material it'd be ok - but I can't, it's just streaming. You have to be some skilled hacker to figure out how to download it (unless you wouldn't mind orgnoting me smile
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Reply #28 posted 02/22/10 2:05pm

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erik319 said:

Mindflux said:



Look, its easy - you got gripes with his other ventures. Poor you. I've been lucky - whenever I've spent money on Prince, I got what I expected. But then, I bought CB in the shops and I never joined NPGMC, so I've had limited experience of the more "risky" ventures.

Obviously others haven't been so lucky. So, you make your choice not to purchase in that manner again. Good for you. My perception of its value to me has nothing to do with purple blinkers, but the choice that I made that I could afford the $77 and I got some stuff I wanted - why that has to be a problem for you or a point of ridicule is beyond comprehension.

You know, there are people that swear they would never buy a BMW because of the problems they had with it.....yet the truth is that millions of other transactions still go well enough and the company keeps selling product. The same is true with any company offering a product and is true with Prince. So, I'm sorry you had such bad experiences, but I haven't had them and will continue to spend my money as I see fit!



Good for you, and I am truly happy for you if your expectations were met. You can only go off your personal experiences and as this is the first online Prince venture you've participated in, and you're happy will the stuff, then i'm happy for you.

Perhaps my comments were harsher than they should have been, this was prompted by the 'STFU' comment. You know why I've become disgruntled with Prince's previous ventures and I now know you're happy with your first experience.

wink

Erik

ps.. you gonna renew? (only joking!! )


hehehe - touché

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Brofie said:



Is it true the $77 got people nothing? There was something. Not what most people expected and not all of what ws advertisied but I have all of the video and audio content that is on that site. I already have some of it in various non digital formats that did not have the quality of thoes clips in the revolving sphere so I was glad to get them as new downloads. Some of the clips Ihave seen nowhere else - liek the more recent material and the Jay Leno performance that wasnt aired.

OK - people got the T shirt. The Lotusflow3r album download and bonus tracks are there. Having the entire Sacrafice of Victor video downloaded is worth something to me. I paid over $100 for the japanese laserdisc about 15 years ago. If I had to buy all of that content - and I would if it were commercially available - it would have cost me way more than $77.

I find the people who want to "keep their money" actually don't have a grip on the value of the material or much money to spend on a luxury items like Prince music in the first place. If $77 is enough to scream about, you can't afford it.

So that is one intelligent way to to look at it.
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If I could "download" this material it'd be ok - but I can't, it's just streaming. You have to be some skilled hacker to figure out how to download it (unless you wouldn't mind orgnoting me smile


You can.....its easy.....and "the secret" is already in this thread!
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My dance project;
www.zubzub.co.uk

Listen to any of my tracks in full, for free, here;
www.zubzub.bandcamp.com

Go and glisten wink
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