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Thread started 01/23/10 8:05am

gogol

Does anyone else think, maybe, Larry saved Prince's life?

He had just lost a child, was going through a divorce, both his parents died, he was helping his sister deal with her stuff. I mean, when you consider the timing of it all, it's entirely possible that Larry and Tina gave the guy some much-needed support when he probably on the verge of a becoming a complete and utter cliche': a self-destroyed artistic genius. That would have been so damn lame.

No one can say would what have happened for sure, but I'm not so sure I'd change the whole Larry thing.

I think it's time to give Larry a break. I know some of you are gonna be snarky about this, because you simply can't help yourself and you probably have a soft spot for stard who burn out quick (pick one) or stars who tried to keep the "edge" they had well into old age (pathetic Madonna), but I kinda like the person Prince is now, and Larry had a lot to do with it.
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Reply #1 posted 01/23/10 8:12am

nurseV

gogol said:

He had just lost a child, was going through a divorce, both his parents died, he was helping his sister deal with her stuff. I mean, when you consider the timing of it all, it's entirely possible that Larry and Tina gave the guy some much-needed support when he probably on the verge of a becoming a complete and utter cliche': a self-destroyed artistic genius. That would have been so damn lame.

No one can say would what have happened for sure, but I'm not so sure I'd change the whole Larry thing.

I think it's time to give Larry a break. I know some of you are gonna be snarky about this, because you simply can't help yourself and you probably have a soft spot for stard who burn out quick (pick one) or stars who tried to keep the "edge" they had well into old age (pathetic Madonna), but I kinda like the person Prince is now, and Larry had a lot to do with it.



Larry is cool with me wink I'm happy he was there to give a brotha some guidance when he needed it the most. I like the person Prince evolved into and if his faith helped him get there then I'm all for it wink
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Reply #2 posted 01/23/10 8:18am

SPYZFAN1

I love Larry and I'm sure he helped P get through the rough parts of his life in the 90's. P is only human. He's not Superman.

People in life should be thankful if they have one good friend that they can rely on or talk to.
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Reply #3 posted 01/23/10 8:23am

nurseV

SPYZFAN1 said:

I love Larry and I'm sure he helped P get through the rough parts of his life in the 90's. P is only human. He's not Superman.

People in life should be thankful if they have one good friend that they can rely on or talk to.



I agree-one is very lucky in life to find a good friendship wink Larry did what he was supposed to do-help another person that just happened to be the baddest musician on the planet razz I would hate to think where Prince's career would have gone without some guidance.
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Reply #4 posted 01/23/10 8:44am

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gogol said:

He had just lost a child, was going through a divorce, both his parents died, he was helping his sister deal with her stuff. I mean, when you consider the timing of it all, it's entirely possible that Larry and Tina gave the guy some much-needed support


Or it's possible that they were like vultures, moving in on him when he was most susceptible. biggrin
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Reply #5 posted 01/23/10 9:02am

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When Prince has faced life challenges, I assume he dealt with them to the best of his ability, like most people do. Unless he chooses to talk about it I don't have a whole lot to say because I don't consider it any of my business.

Those few times where he has spoken about Larry or his faith I accepted his explanations at face value and understood why he made certain choices even if I might have chosen differently in a similar situation. It's his life and I wish him well. I have no idea whether Larry saved his life or not.


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Reply #6 posted 01/23/10 9:05am

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gogol said:

He had just lost a child, was going through a divorce, both his parents died, he was helping his sister deal with her stuff. I mean, when you consider the timing of it all, it's entirely possible that Larry and Tina gave the guy some much-needed support when he probably on the verge of a becoming a complete and utter cliche': a self-destroyed artistic genius. That would have been so damn lame.

No one can say would what have happened for sure, but I'm not so sure I'd change the whole Larry thing.

I think it's time to give Larry a break. I know some of you are gonna be snarky about this, because you simply can't help yourself and you probably have a soft spot for stard who burn out quick (pick one) or stars who tried to keep the "edge" they had well into old age (pathetic Madonna), but I kinda like the person Prince is now, and Larry had a lot to do with it.


Prince had to face bad situations, it is true but no human is exempt and only he had his personal values. Accepting that Larry Prince saved PrinceĀ“s life is like taking away all moral and spiritual value from Prince, the circumstances provide opportunities, the person chooses the way
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Reply #7 posted 01/23/10 9:30am

all7even

he maybe gave prince a new religious outlook on life
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Reply #8 posted 01/23/10 10:27am

jonylawson

i think he was responsible in influncing some of the worst music in princes career

lets be honest

sorry.....

im in a fucking bad mood-just heard that new fucking song sad
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Reply #9 posted 01/23/10 10:27am

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Here's what bothers ME:

Prince died of an overdose of the drug Fentanyl. Of which, it is very highly fucking likely that he never even knew he'd taken.
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Reply #10 posted 01/23/10 10:29am

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Larry gets all respect from me so he definitely deserves a break. Yes Prince chose the path but when the s*** had hit the fan completely, Larry was someone who Prince trusted and he was there for Prince. What better friend than that can you get?
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Reply #11 posted 01/23/10 10:29am

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they are responsible for "PURPLE AND GOLD"....

there is JW subtext all over this thing...

they sucked the life right out of the most inspiring person of our times
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Reply #12 posted 01/23/10 3:54pm

1013Nightlife

itsjustaroundthecorner said:

they are responsible for "PURPLE AND GOLD"....

there is JW subtext all over this thing...

they sucked the life right out of the most inspiring person of our times


What pisses me of is the venom against this Larry or anything religious. For fuck's sake, If I respect people who go to some place at a lake to get fucked in the asshole or stick their dick in some hole in a dark room to get sucked anonymously, why the fuck shouldn't I respect a Jehova's witness?
Apparently Prince had some empty space that needed to be filled and now handing out Watchtowers satisfies him. Fine. I don't think it's any worse than paying 300 dollar to be whipped, locked up in a batroom, almost getting choked with a garbage bag and hit on balls with a fork till bleeding as I witnessed recently.
This anti religious sentiment is annoying me more and more. Sometimes I work for the muslims and the next day for the SM dominatrixes; none of them bothered me.

The point is, how many superstars died from drug overdosis, alcoholism, extreme thrills? Apparently superstardom does that with people. So of all the options, being a JW is not that bad. And yes, I fucking like the MPLS/LF albums and all the other post JW stuff. Some more than fucking Purple Rain.

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Reply #13 posted 01/23/10 4:04pm

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I don't think Larry saved Prince's life. I think he's definitely a good friend, and perhaps a good spiritual voice for Prince.

I'm not crazy about all of Prince's religious rants, but I respect him having faith. I don't have to listen to what I don't want to, and I can certainly roll my eyes when I'm not feeling a new song or vibe.

I think Larry gets a bad rep too. He's a heck of a bass player. People here are upset with Larry because they think he's a bad musical influence, and they way Prince circa '79 - '88 back.

But saved his life... hence the reason why Prince is so close to him... no.

Larry's a good musician, and Prince obviously likes much of what he hears... both musically and spiritually.
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Reply #14 posted 01/23/10 4:26pm

Paris9748430

I agree. Larry was a friend and a father figure for Prince when he needed one most.

There were articles that came out around that time when people were saying how Prince was firing people just for looking him in the eye, and after Larry came along everything changed.


Prince has had Christian Religious imagery and lyrics in his music from the very beginning. So that kinda stuff doesn't bother me.
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Reply #15 posted 01/23/10 4:34pm

GraffitiKid

Paris9748430 said:

I agree. Larry was a friend and a father figure for Prince when he needed one most.

There were articles that came out around that time when people were saying how Prince was firing people just for looking him in the eye, and after Larry came along everything changed.


Prince has had Christian Religious imagery and lyrics in his music from the very beginning. So that kinda stuff doesn't bother me.


Agreed..Larry was a good influence on Prince. Prince's life as very hard at the time, he gave him a sense of positive direction smile
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Reply #16 posted 01/23/10 5:59pm

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Reply #17 posted 01/23/10 6:56pm

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1013Nightlife said:

If I respect people who go to some place at a lake to get fucked in the asshole or stick their dick in some hole in a dark room to get sucked anonymously, why the fuck shouldn't I respect a Jehova's witness?

What are you talking about? I can't see what links your statement to the subject.
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Reply #18 posted 01/23/10 9:32pm

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jonylawson said:

i think he was responsible in influncing some of the worst music in princes career

lets be honest

sorry.....

im in a fucking bad mood-just heard that new fucking song sad


yeahthat

besides the Prince/ Larry Graham album GCS2000 is maybe the worst pseudo funk album in history... yuck.
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Reply #19 posted 01/23/10 9:56pm

Paris9748430

thedance said:

jonylawson said:

i think he was responsible in influncing some of the worst music in princes career

lets be honest

sorry.....

im in a fucking bad mood-just heard that new fucking song sad


yeahthat

besides the Prince/ Larry Graham album GCS2000 is maybe the worst pseudo funk album in history... yuck.


That's just stupidity. Not the criticisms about GCS2000, but the opinion that Larry influenced the worst music in Prince's career.

Because Larry Graham has been an influence on Prince's music from the very beginning.

How the fuck do you know that Larry himself was the main influence on these songs???

Just talking shit a mile a minute and haven't made a coherent argument yet.

Unless you consider "Oh Noes, Larry iz teh bad" a coherent argument.

So please stop acting like you know what the fuck you're talking about, because you don't!!!
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Reply #20 posted 01/23/10 10:30pm

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perhaps larry did not save prince's life but he definently salvaged his spirit.
prince went through a very rough time, thank god Adonai prince had a true friend in larry graham and did he not seek out drugs to cope with all the pain he went through.

i luv prince, he is a beautiful person to me inspite of what others might think.
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Reply #21 posted 01/23/10 11:13pm

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Paris9748430 said:

That's just stupidity. Not the criticisms about GCS2000, but the opinion that Larry influenced the worst music in Prince's career.

Because Larry Graham has been an influence on Prince's music from the very beginning.

How the fuck do you know that Larry himself was the main influence on these songs???

Just talking shit a mile a minute and haven't made a coherent argument yet.

Unless you consider "Oh Noes, Larry iz teh bad" a coherent argument.

So please stop acting like you know what the fuck you're talking about, because you don't!!!

"stupidity"? Now you better wash your mouth. lol

Listen to "The Christ" (formerly: "The Cross"), or any other self-censored songs.

that's stupidity, honey..... wink razz


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Reply #22 posted 01/23/10 11:28pm

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About the only good thing Larry did for Prince was to get him to quit cursing in his lyrics.

Besides that, Larry at the present moment will Contribute to him not spending eternity with Jesus! Mark my Words, Jesus don't play, and any person or religion that teaches the opposite or something different than John 14:6 according to Jesus will not spend eternity with Jesus as Larry and his JWs teach!!!!!
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Reply #23 posted 01/24/10 12:29am

Paris9748430

thedance said:

Paris9748430 said:

That's just stupidity. Not the criticisms about GCS2000, but the opinion that Larry influenced the worst music in Prince's career.

Because Larry Graham has been an influence on Prince's music from the very beginning.

How the fuck do you know that Larry himself was the main influence on these songs???

Just talking shit a mile a minute and haven't made a coherent argument yet.

Unless you consider "Oh Noes, Larry iz teh bad" a coherent argument.

So please stop acting like you know what the fuck you're talking about, because you don't!!!

"stupidity"? Now you better wash your mouth. lol

Listen to "The Christ" (formerly: "The Cross"), or any other self-censored songs.

that's stupidity, honey..... wink razz


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That was a choice that PRINCE made!!!

He didn't put a fucking gun to his head.

He hasn't sung that song in over 10 years, so what else you got???
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Reply #24 posted 01/24/10 1:09am

1013Nightlife

Isabell said:

1013Nightlife said:
If I respect people who go to some place at a lake to get fucked in the asshole or stick their dick in some hole in a dark room to get sucked anonymously, why the fuck shouldn't I respect a Jehova's witness?

What are you talking about? I can't see what links your statement to the subject.



The subject is that Larry guy and Prince being a Jehova's witness and the question is if that Larry guy saved his life and some other people think not because they see the JW as the root of all evil, stating - and I quote - They are responsible for "PURPLE AND GOLD", there is JW subtext all over this thing, they sucked the life right out of the most inspiring person of our times.

And thus my reaction.

Jeez.
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Reply #25 posted 01/24/10 1:10am

1013Nightlife

Paris9748430 said:

thedance said:


"stupidity"? Now you better wash your mouth. lol

Listen to "The Christ" (formerly: "The Cross"), or any other self-censored songs.

that's stupidity, honey..... wink razz


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That was a choice that PRINCE made!!!

He didn't put a fucking gun to his head.

He hasn't sung that song in over 10 years, so what else you got???



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Reply #26 posted 01/24/10 1:18am

alexothetimes

PPL DONT KILL ME FOR THIS BUT WHO IS THIS LARRY GUY?????
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Reply #27 posted 01/24/10 1:25am

1013Nightlife

alexothetimes said:

PPL DONT KILL ME FOR THIS BUT WHO IS THIS LARRY GUY?????


Larry Graham. Former bass player of Sly and etc.
He was allready a JW when he met Prince - perhaps played the bass for Prince- and apparently through him Prince became a JW too.
They are kind of best friends and go handing out watchtowers together.
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Reply #28 posted 01/24/10 1:39am

alexothetimes

1013Nightlife said:

alexothetimes said:

PPL DONT KILL ME FOR THIS BUT WHO IS THIS LARRY GUY?????


Larry Graham. Former bass player of Sly and etc.
He was allready a JW when he met Prince - perhaps played the bass for Prince- and apparently through him Prince became a JW too.
They are kind of best friends and go handing out watchtowers together.

hmmmmm.....i never heard of a person so close to prince like that.....prince is such an enigma
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Reply #29 posted 01/24/10 2:30am

swanny

Far from saving Prince's life, Larry actually killed him. Prince was then reborn as a disinfected, JW loving, close minded clone.

And the music died. Although in fairness Prince's music had been on the life support machine for a few years. I guess Larry just pulled the plug.
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