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Reply #60 posted 08/13/09 7:06am

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Militant said:

I'm listening to the radio edit right now.

The arrangement is snappier, and the piano seems a little louder in the mix. It's definately a better arrangement for radio. It doesn't have any of the "breakdowns" that the album version does.

Definately a hit.

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Reply #61 posted 08/13/09 7:08am

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Well, how do you like that! Prince does read this board, after all! I've said from Day 1, Dance 4 Me, was the best and really only choice for a lead off single, if he wanted to get the biggest bang for the buck!


oh yeah? then he must have read my thread about it here

http://prince.org/msg/7/302755

gotta have a better chance than Chocolate Box
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Reply #62 posted 08/13/09 7:14am

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Militant said:

Nikkie said:

Ooh, Dance 4 me (radio edit) is now on French KissFm!

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There's a radio edit? Hmm. Wonder how it differs from the album version. Have you heard it?


ok I've just found it (thanks militant)
so next time will be tonight at 9:11PM (french hour) on Kiss FM radio
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Reply #63 posted 08/13/09 7:31am

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Militant said:

I'm listening to the radio edit right now.

The arrangement is snappier, and the piano seems a little louder in the mix. It's definately a better arrangement for radio. It doesn't have any of the "breakdowns" that the album version does.

Definately a hit.


I agree! It flows really well. "Hallelujah!"
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Reply #64 posted 08/13/09 7:55am

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that radio edit sounds kinda fan made if you ask me. the way the parts
segue sounds quite struggling. i doubt this is the real thing. is it??
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Reply #65 posted 08/13/09 7:57am

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Militant said:

I'm listening to the radio edit right now.

The arrangement is snappier, and the piano seems a little louder in the mix. It's definately a better arrangement for radio. It doesn't have any of the "breakdowns" that the album version does.

Definately a hit.


So if that is the "real deal", does it still have the "Hallelujahs" in it, pray tell? biggrin
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Reply #66 posted 08/13/09 8:06am

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IstenSzek said:

that radio edit sounds kinda fan made if you ask me. the way the parts
segue sounds quite struggling. i doubt this is the real thing. is it??


That could be, if the station doesn't own a promo single yet. Half of the verses is missing in this one.
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Reply #67 posted 08/13/09 8:14am

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Love the song but it'll tank as usual, despite remixes and a video, don't really see the point in releasing a first single half a year after the album came out.

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Because he is out on the road in Europe and the single will tie in with the shows. Honestly people I wonder about a lot of you sometime.
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Reply #68 posted 08/13/09 8:33am

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japanrocks said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Well, how do you like that! Prince does read this board, after all! I've said from Day 1, Dance 4 Me, was the best and really only choice for a lead off single, if he wanted to get the biggest bang for the buck!


oh yeah? then he must have read my thread about it here

http://prince.org/msg/7/302755

gotta have a better chance than Chocolate Box


There were lots of folks around here that said it. Though none quite as adamantly as myself, but if Prince should drop a shout out to the haters for making him see what he should have saw in the first place, I'll share the credit! lol
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Reply #69 posted 08/13/09 8:41am

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This will make my trips to strip joints in years to come much more enjoyable.

All in the promotion now. I hope this is a hit. It deserves to be.
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Reply #70 posted 08/13/09 8:45am

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The radio edit is real in my opinion.

And yes, it does still have the "Hallelujah"s but not as many.
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Reply #71 posted 08/13/09 8:51am

2elijah

Militant said:

The radio edit is real in my opinion.

And yes, it does still have the "Hallelujah"s but not as many.


Okay thanks. I would imagine the radio version would be shorter anyway. Good to know it's being played on radio.
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Reply #72 posted 08/13/09 8:53am

2elijah

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

japanrocks said:



oh yeah? then he must have read my thread about it here

http://prince.org/msg/7/302755

gotta have a better chance than Chocolate Box


There were lots of folks around here that said it. Though none quite as adamantly as myself, but if Prince should drop a shout out to the haters for making him see what he should have saw in the first place, I'll share the credit! lol



nod Yes I remember you stating quite a few times you like that track.
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Reply #73 posted 08/13/09 8:59am

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2elijah said:

Militant said:

The radio edit is real in my opinion.

And yes, it does still have the "Hallelujah"s but not as many.


Okay thanks. I would imagine the radio version would be shorter anyway. Good to know it's being played on radio.

Now all that needs to happen is having that song be played here on the radio here in America. This would fit in with Z100 or KTU and all the R&B stations here in NYC. Maybe even Hot 97 and Power 105.
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Reply #74 posted 08/13/09 9:06am

2elijah

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2elijah said:



Okay thanks. I would imagine the radio version would be shorter anyway. Good to know it's being played on radio.

Now all that needs to happen is having that song be played here on the radio here in America. This would fit in with Z100 or KTU and all the R&B stations here in NYC. Maybe even Hot 97 and Power 105.


I know that it would do good on some r&b stations in NYC, not like there's a lot.. lol , but I'm a little iffy about that mostly rock/pop station Z100 though, KTU would take a chance since they are always playing Prince classics anyway...everyday.

I could see Power105 doing a mix on Dance4me,and 98.7kissfm playing it in its entirety, although it would be a shorter version for radio, should they get hold of the track. I'm kind of unsure about WBLS and Hot97..no telling what they would play since they seem to cater more to the hip/hop generation.

Also, I could definitely see Tom Joynor and Steve Harvey playing this song. I think it would do good in the southern part of the U.S. as well on r&b stations out there, since that's where you have a lot of church folk, living on parts of the bible belt. Not sure how some of them might take specific lines in the song though, as although there is a specific line that comes off "sexy", knowing Prince he probably references it to more on the spiritual side, since he has a tendency to play with words in his songs. (Not sure if I could type the part of the lyrics of I'm referencing from that track here,don't want to break any rules, but I think you know which lines I mean).
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Reply #75 posted 08/13/09 9:29am

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2elijah said:

purplecam said:


Now all that needs to happen is having that song be played here on the radio here in America. This would fit in with Z100 or KTU and all the R&B stations here in NYC. Maybe even Hot 97 and Power 105.


I know that it would do good on some r&b stations in NYC, not like there's a lot.. lol , but I'm a little iffy about that mostly rock/pop station Z100 though, KTU would take a chance since they are always playing Prince classics anyway...everyday.

I could see Power105 doing a mix on Dance4me,and 98.7kissfm playing it in its entirety, although it would be a shorter version for radio, should they get hold of the track. I'm kind of unsure about WBLS and Hot97..no telling what they would play since they seem to cater more to the hip/hop generation.

Also, I could definitely see Tom Joynor and Steve Harvey playing this song. I think it would do good in the southern part of the U.S. as well on r&b stations out there, since that's where you have a lot of church folk, living on parts of the bible belt. Not sure how some of them might take specific lines in the song though, as although there is a specific line that comes off "sexy", knowing Prince he probably references it to more on the spiritual side, since he has a tendency to play with words in his songs. (Not sure if I could type the part of the lyrics of I'm referencing from that track here,don't want to break any rules, but I think you know which lines I mean).
[Edited 8/13/09 9:09am]

I get what you're saying. I still think that this would do good on Z100 and KTU would play this. WBLS played Future Baby Mama so I can't see them not playing this. This sond could really get him back on the radio, IF pushed properly.
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Reply #76 posted 08/13/09 9:34am

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Militant said:

I'm listening to the radio edit right now.

The arrangement is snappier, and the piano seems a little louder in the mix. It's definately a better arrangement for radio. It doesn't have any of the "breakdowns" that the album version does.

Definately a hit.


That sounds annoying, the break downs are the best bits and separate P from the usual, sounds like they made it run of the mill.

Anyway, fantastic news and has me excited!

UK concerts, come on Prince!
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Reply #77 posted 08/13/09 10:09am

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purplecam said:

2elijah said:



I know that it would do good on some r&b stations in NYC, not like there's a lot.. lol , but I'm a little iffy about that mostly rock/pop station Z100 though, KTU would take a chance since they are always playing Prince classics anyway...everyday.

I could see Power105 doing a mix on Dance4me,and 98.7kissfm playing it in its entirety, although it would be a shorter version for radio, should they get hold of the track. I'm kind of unsure about WBLS and Hot97..no telling what they would play since they seem to cater more to the hip/hop generation.

Also, I could definitely see Tom Joynor and Steve Harvey playing this song. I think it would do good in the southern part of the U.S. as well on r&b stations out there, since that's where you have a lot of church folk, living on parts of the bible belt. Not sure how some of them might take specific lines in the song though, as although there is a specific line that comes off "sexy", knowing Prince he probably references it to more on the spiritual side, since he has a tendency to play with words in his songs. (Not sure if I could type the part of the lyrics of I'm referencing from that track here,don't want to break any rules, but I think you know which lines I mean).
[Edited 8/13/09 9:09am]

I get what you're saying. I still think that this would do good on Z100 and KTU would play this. WBLS played Future Baby Mama so I can't see them not playing this. This sond could really get him back on the radio, IF pushed properly.


Okay, I had no idea WBLS ever played FBM. I could see KTU playing this song, bt since I don't actually listen to Z100, I guess you would know better than me. lol
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Reply #78 posted 08/13/09 10:46am

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not trying to be funny or anything, but what was the old single???
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Reply #79 posted 08/13/09 10:49am

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2elijah said:

purplecam said:


I get what you're saying. I still think that this would do good on Z100 and KTU would play this. WBLS played Future Baby Mama so I can't see them not playing this. This sond could really get him back on the radio, IF pushed properly.


Okay, I had no idea WBLS ever played FBM. I could see KTU playing this song, bt since I don't actually listen to Z100, I guess you would know better than me. lol

Oh yeah, I heard FBM on WBLS a couple of times on WBLS and Kiss-FM. I only listen to Z100 when I'm in a place where it's being played. From what I've heard in recent times, it would work with their format. I just want the kids to know who he is, well the ones who don't know. His music needs to be EVERYWHERE. I'm going to be praying for this to happen. pray
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Reply #80 posted 08/13/09 11:10am

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laurarichardson said:

Marrk said:

Love the song but it'll tank as usual, despite remixes and a video, don't really see the point in releasing a first single half a year after the album came out.

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Because he is out on the road in Europe and the single will tie in with the shows. Honestly people I wonder about a lot of you sometime.


Yeah, he's "on the road". What? Three club-size gigs in Monaco? At which he'll probably play NOTHING from an album THAT ISN'T AVAILABLE OVER HERE?

FYI: NPS bombed BIG TIME in 1998, and that was despite BMG being involved. And Prince touring while the album was out and in stores. BMG Belgium after he played here admitted the concert had done next to nothing to increase sales.

I remember how Eric Benchimol used to keep stats on charts etc, and would post those weekly. Got pretty embarrassing when singles barely made the top 40, albums disappeared after mere weeks, and even radio play charts were tanking. And that was years ago, back when he'd have videos on TV, singles on radio, albums actually on sale, and him touring and doing interviews and TV.

Just look at what Rave did in 1999: ZILCH.

Yet somehow, he's now gonna score a hit?
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Reply #81 posted 08/13/09 11:42am

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BartVanHemelen said:

Yet somehow, he's now gonna score a hit?


Maybe because the song itself IS immensely funky?

It would be nice to hear it often on the radio! I remember Guitar being a modest radio hit over here in Holland (thanks to 3FM). It even reached top 10 in the singles chart (for what that's worth in today's music industry...)
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Reply #82 posted 08/13/09 12:03pm

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i wonder if he'll play it 2night?
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Reply #83 posted 08/13/09 12:28pm

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BartVanHemelen said:

laurarichardson said:


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Because he is out on the road in Europe and the single will tie in with the shows. Honestly people I wonder about a lot of you sometime.


Yeah, he's "on the road". What? Three club-size gigs in Monaco? At which he'll probably play NOTHING from an album THAT ISN'T AVAILABLE OVER HERE?

FYI: NPS bombed BIG TIME in 1998, and that was despite BMG being involved. And Prince touring while the album was out and in stores. BMG Belgium after he played here admitted the concert had done next to nothing to increase sales.

I remember how Eric Benchimol used to keep stats on charts etc, and would post those weekly. Got pretty embarrassing when singles barely made the top 40, albums disappeared after mere weeks, and even radio play charts were tanking. And that was years ago, back when he'd have videos on TV, singles on radio, albums actually on sale, and him touring and doing interviews and TV.

Just look at what Rave did in 1999: ZILCH.

Yet somehow, he's now gonna score a hit?


Yeah, he's a complete and utter failure.

Oh wait, the chart positions of his last 4 albums in the US: 3, 1, 3, 2. Horrible.

And the last 2 eligible for the UK charts? 3 & 9.

Musicology, 3121 and Planet Earth were all Top 10 throughout Europe.

So why is 1998 - when Prince was arguably at the nadir of his commercial appeal - relevent?

Now is exactly the time to try this. He has a terrific, commercially appealing song choice, and renewed enthusiasm for his career over the last 5 to 7 years - and nobody can doubt how successful he was in London for 21 nights. Why not try and launch a radio single? Maybe it will be a hit, maybe it won't.
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Reply #84 posted 08/13/09 1:35pm

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laurarichardson said:


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Because he is out on the road in Europe and the single will tie in with the shows. Honestly people I wonder about a lot of you sometime.


Yeah, he's "on the road". What? Three club-size gigs in Monaco? At which he'll probably play NOTHING from an album THAT ISN'T AVAILABLE OVER HERE?

FYI: NPS bombed BIG TIME in 1998, and that was despite BMG being involved. And Prince touring while the album was out and in stores. BMG Belgium after he played here admitted the concert had done next to nothing to increase sales.

I remember how Eric Benchimol used to keep stats on charts etc, and would post those weekly. Got pretty embarrassing when singles barely made the top 40, albums disappeared after mere weeks, and even radio play charts were tanking. And that was years ago, back when he'd have videos on TV, singles on radio, albums actually on sale, and him touring and doing interviews and TV.

Just look at what Rave did in 1999: ZILCH.

Yet somehow, he's now gonna score a hit?

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Why the fuck are you talking about 1998 when P has had a really good run the over the last 5 years. Please come out of the 90's and wake up.

I don't know if this song will be a hit considering P has no record label behind him but since he is in Europe and we don't know he might be doing more shows why not put out a single.

After all it is P's money that is being used not yours and not any record company. If he wants to go for it why not.
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Reply #85 posted 08/13/09 1:51pm

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Why am I reading this here and/or at the Dr's and NOT in the news section of my lotusflow3r account? neutral
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Reply #86 posted 08/13/09 2:00pm

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Why am I reading this here and/or at the Dr's and NOT in the news section of my lotusflow3r account? neutral



million dollar question neutral


er uh....77 dollar question
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Reply #87 posted 08/13/09 2:48pm

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Why the fuck are you talking about 1998 when P has had a really good run the over the last 5 years. Please come out of the 90's and wake up.

I don't know if this song will be a hit considering P has no record label behind him but since he is in Europe and we don't know he might be doing more shows why not put out a single.

After all it is P's money that is being used not yours and not any record company. If he wants to go for it why not.



This will not be a big hit or anything even resembling a hit, hits don’t just magically appear, not even the manufactured ones.
Other than a sprinkling of the hardcore faithful here, nobody thinks this song is any good, for a song to be a hit, it needs more than couple of people to dig it.
Even the kiddie pop kids think everything on MPLSOUND is cheese.
When even the kids, who are the aficionados of cheese, find something too cheesy, there is a problem.

MNPLSOUND is another catastrophic artistic embarrassment, he should just cut and walk away from it, A lot of people see prince as a great artist, a great performer, having this kind of thing on the airwaves will only hurt concert sales and potential ticket buyers opinion of him.
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Reply #88 posted 08/13/09 5:19pm

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Why am I reading this here and/or at the Dr's and NOT in the news section of my lotusflow3r account? neutral


Because news wasn't part of the deal, silly billy! giggle
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Reply #89 posted 08/13/09 6:40pm

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violetblues said:

laurarichardson said:


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Why the fuck are you talking about 1998 when P has had a really good run the over the last 5 years. Please come out of the 90's and wake up.

I don't know if this song will be a hit considering P has no record label behind him but since he is in Europe and we don't know he might be doing more shows why not put out a single.

After all it is P's money that is being used not yours and not any record company. If he wants to go for it why not.



This will not be a big hit or anything even resembling a hit, hits don’t just magically appear, not even the manufactured ones.
Other than a sprinkling of the hardcore faithful here, nobody thinks this song is any good, for a song to be a hit, it needs more than couple of people to dig it.
Even the kiddie pop kids think everything on MPLSOUND is cheese.
When even the kids, who are the aficionados of cheese, find something too cheesy, there is a problem.

MNPLSOUND is another catastrophic artistic embarrassment, he should just cut and walk away from it, A lot of people see prince as a great artist, a great performer, having this kind of thing on the airwaves will only hurt concert sales and potential ticket buyers opinion of him.


I think you'll find that the general consensus amongst hardcore fans and non-fans alike is that MPLSOUND is a great album and 'Dance 4 Me' is one of the stronger songs. I don't know what kids you've been listening to, but everyone I know that has heard it, digs it, and that's a lot of friends and familly members with varying tastes and in different age ranges.

As for your last point, Prince could release an album of fart sounds at this point and it would not hurt concert sales - he's one of the most legendary and reknowned performers in the business and that ain't gonna change any time soon.
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