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Thread started 05/18/09 7:54am

ZiggmanZoo

Lotusflow3r and The Rainbow Children

I really feel that 4 songs from Lotusflow3r could have been on The Rainbow Children CD.

From the Lotus
Feel better, Feel good... ( It sounds like twin of The Work pt.1, but much better!)
Love like Jazz
Back to the Lotus.
One can also claim that 77 Beverly Park is in a similar category.

What do you think?
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Reply #1 posted 05/18/09 7:55am

Genesia

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None of those songs fit on The Rainbow Children for the simple reason that they aren't filled with JW dogma. shrug
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Reply #2 posted 05/18/09 7:57am

WetDream

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in style, yes.
This Post is produced, arranged, composed and performed by WetDream
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Reply #3 posted 05/18/09 7:57am

Trashcat

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in lyrics, no
Have a look at 'The W2A: Euro Tour Song Survey' http://prince.org/msg/12/362417
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Reply #4 posted 05/18/09 7:58am

Graycap23

ZiggmanZoo said:

I really feel that 4 songs from Lotusflow3r could have been on The Rainbow Children CD.

From the Lotus
Feel better, Feel good... ( It sounds like twin of The Work pt.1, but much better!)
Love like Jazz
Back to the Lotus.
One can also claim that 77 Beverly Park is in a similar category.

What do you think?

From the Lotus and Back 2 the Lotus (if u ask me) were a part of the original song the Rainbow Children. They were edited out of the song 4 the cd release.
[Edited 5/19/09 11:24am]
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Reply #5 posted 05/18/09 8:03am

prijsbeestje

lotusflow3r has the same vibe and sounds like rainbowchildren but without the deep voice and the jw bla bla
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Reply #6 posted 05/18/09 8:20am

ZiggmanZoo

Graycap23 said:

ZiggmanZoo said:

I really feel that 4 songs from Lotusflow3r could have been on The Rainbow Children CD.

From the Lotus
Feel better, Feel good... ( It sounds like twin of The Work pt.1, but much better!)
Love like Jazz
Back to the Lotus.
One can also claim that 77 Beverly Park is in a similar category.

What do you think?

From the Lotus and Back 2 the Lotus were a part of the original song the Rainbow Children. They were edited out of the song 4 the cd release.


Did not know this! So it seems that Prince is really found of his "Rainbow Children" I also gotta admit that I am really glad that Lotusflow3r does not include "The deep voice", that almost ruins the album.
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Reply #7 posted 05/18/09 8:32am

ernestsewell

Genesia said:

None of those songs fit on The Rainbow Children for the simple reason that they aren't filled with JW dogma. shrug


yeahthat

But I still hate The Rainb.....oh, you people know already.
[Edited 5/18/09 8:32am]
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Reply #8 posted 05/18/09 8:48am

ZiggmanZoo

ernestsewell said:

Genesia said:

None of those songs fit on The Rainbow Children for the simple reason that they aren't filled with JW dogma. shrug


yeahthat

But I still hate The Rainb.....oh, you people know already.
[Edited 5/18/09 8:32am]


So you don't care for these song either or?
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Reply #9 posted 05/18/09 8:52am

amorbella

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TRC and Lotus can't be compared...

To very different eras, styles....
Say it's just a dream...
U open up ur eyes and come 2 realize
u simply imagined this
So u lean over and give her a kiss
Here on earth, here on earth,
with u it's not so bad
Here on earth, here on earth
eye don't feel so sad
Stay right here
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Reply #10 posted 05/18/09 8:55am

Dave1992

Graycap23 said:

ZiggmanZoo said:

I really feel that 4 songs from Lotusflow3r could have been on The Rainbow Children CD.

From the Lotus
Feel better, Feel good... ( It sounds like twin of The Work pt.1, but much better!)
Love like Jazz
Back to the Lotus.
One can also claim that 77 Beverly Park is in a similar category.

What do you think?

From the Lotus and Back 2 the Lotus were a part of the original song the Rainbow Children. They were edited out of the song 4 the cd release.


Where do you know that from?
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Reply #11 posted 05/18/09 9:03am

Graycap23

Dave1992 said:

Graycap23 said:


From the Lotus and Back 2 the Lotus were a part of the original song the Rainbow Children. They were edited out of the song 4 the cd release.


Where do you know that from?

My collection.
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Reply #12 posted 05/18/09 9:09am

mzkqueen03

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[Edited 4/10/10 3:07am]
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #13 posted 05/18/09 9:10am

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[Edited 4/10/10 3:08am]
..She's Just A Baby..but she's my lady..my loveR..my only friend!..true love that will last!..PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND..WHAT SHE SEES IN AN OLDER MAN..they never stop 2 think that maybe i'm what she's looking 4..THEY NEVER TAKE THE TIME..2 look in her mind
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Reply #14 posted 05/18/09 9:20am

ernestsewell

ZiggmanZoo said:

ernestsewell said:



yeahthat

But I still hate The Rainb.....oh, you people know already.
[Edited 5/18/09 8:32am]


So you don't care for these song either or?


I hate The Rainbow Children. HATE IT. Whereas with Lotus, it's not BAD music, just kind of bores me. But I get the correlation that Ziggmanzoo made with similar styles of music between the two albums.
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Reply #15 posted 05/18/09 9:58am

Dave1992

Graycap23 said:

Dave1992 said:



Where do you know that from?

My collection.


worship
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Reply #16 posted 05/18/09 10:05am

thanks2joniand
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Musically,I consider LF to be a fairly close cousin to TRC especially the "songs" you mentioned. TRC is more rewarding for me musically but LF comes very close. It's a minor classic whereas TRC is bold and brilliant.
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Reply #17 posted 05/18/09 10:08am

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Graycap23 said:

ZiggmanZoo said:

I really feel that 4 songs from Lotusflow3r could have been on The Rainbow Children CD.

From the Lotus
Feel better, Feel good... ( It sounds like twin of The Work pt.1, but much better!)
Love like Jazz
Back to the Lotus.
One can also claim that 77 Beverly Park is in a similar category.

What do you think?

From the Lotus and Back 2 the Lotus were a part of the original song the Rainbow Children. They were edited out of the song 4 the cd release.

I think it would help to clarify what you seem to be claiming.

Are you suggesting that edits from the released track 'The Rainbow Children' are the recordings of 'From The Lotus' and 'Back 2 The Lotus' released on 'Lotusflow3r'?
ALT+PLS+RTN: Pure as a pane of ice. It's a gift.
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Reply #18 posted 05/18/09 10:09am

Marco81

Graycap23 said:

ZiggmanZoo said:

I really feel that 4 songs from Lotusflow3r could have been on The Rainbow Children CD.

From the Lotus
Feel better, Feel good... ( It sounds like twin of The Work pt.1, but much better!)
Love like Jazz
Back to the Lotus.
One can also claim that 77 Beverly Park is in a similar category.

What do you think?

From the Lotus and Back 2 the Lotus were a part of the original song the Rainbow Children. They were edited out of the song 4 the cd release.


yeah...just like Planet Earth started with the line "dance the dance electric".....will bullshit ever stop?aaaaahhh
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Reply #19 posted 05/18/09 10:09am

Graycap23

langebleu said:

Graycap23 said:


From the Lotus and Back 2 the Lotus were a part of the original song the Rainbow Children. They were edited out of the song 4 the cd release.

I think it would help to clarify what you seem to be claiming.

Are you suggesting that edits from the released track 'The Rainbow Children' are the recordings of 'From The Lotus' and 'Back 2 The Lotus' released on 'Lotusflow3r'?

Pretty much.
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Reply #20 posted 05/18/09 10:14am

Genesia

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ernestsewell said:

ZiggmanZoo said:



So you don't care for these song either or?


I hate The Rainbow Children. HATE IT. Whereas with Lotus, it's not BAD music, just kind of bores me. But I get the correlation that Ziggmanzoo made with similar styles of music between the two albums.


I don't necessarily hate it (there are a couple of tracks that I like a lot - musically, if for no other reason). But I have a very hard time getting past the anti-semitism and theocratic disorder of the thing. disbelief
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Reply #21 posted 05/18/09 10:32am

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Graycap23 said:

langebleu said:


I think it would help to clarify what you seem to be claiming.

Are you suggesting that edits from the released track 'The Rainbow Children' are the recordings of 'From The Lotus' and 'Back 2 The Lotus' released on 'Lotusflow3r'?

Pretty much.

That's truly remarkable.

Whilst 'From The Lotus' and 'Back 2 The Lotus' share a not dissimilar guitar phrase with part of the coda on 'The Rainbow Children', the underlying song is played in a different key to the Lotusflow3r tracks.

Even more surprising, Prince credits John Blackwell with having played on the track, 'The Rainbow Children' but he credits the drumming parts you say are edited from that recording and issued as Trax 1 and 12 on 'Lotusflow3r' to Michael Bland, with the bass now played by Sonny T.
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Reply #22 posted 05/18/09 10:37am

Graycap23

langebleu said:

Graycap23 said:


Pretty much.

That's truly remarkable.

Whilst 'From The Lotus' and 'Back 2 The Lotus' share a not dissimilar guitar phrase with part of the coda on 'The Rainbow Children', the underlying song is played in a different key to the Lotusflow3r tracks.

Even more surprising, Prince credits John Blackwell with having played on the track, 'The Rainbow Children' but he credits the drumming parts you say are edited from that recording and issued as Trax 1 and 12 on 'Lotusflow3r' to Michael Bland, with the bass now played by Sonny T.

These songs are morphing all over the place. The credits are what they are.
I would not have given it a second thought until some one brought it up. I pulled out some RC songs and there it was.
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Reply #23 posted 05/18/09 3:25pm

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Graycap23 said:

langebleu said:


That's truly remarkable.

Whilst 'From The Lotus' and 'Back 2 The Lotus' share a not dissimilar guitar phrase with part of the coda on 'The Rainbow Children', the underlying song is played in a different key to the Lotusflow3r tracks.

Even more surprising, Prince credits John Blackwell with having played on the track, 'The Rainbow Children' but he credits the drumming parts you say are edited from that recording and issued as Trax 1 and 12 on 'Lotusflow3r' to Michael Bland, with the bass now played by Sonny T.

These songs are morphing all over the place. The credits are what they are.
I would not have given it a second thought until some one brought it up. I pulled out some RC songs and there it was.


But they were recorded in different years by different players.
it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die
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Reply #24 posted 05/18/09 4:42pm

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thanks2joniandu said:

Musically,I consider LF to be a fairly close cousin to TRC especially the "songs" you mentioned. TRC is more rewarding for me musically but LF comes very close. It's a minor classic whereas TRC is bold and brilliant.


I agree. As much as I am enjoying LF, TRC is more cohesive and, so far, can't be touched. smile
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Reply #25 posted 05/18/09 4:56pm

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From and Back to the Lotus, compared to TRC have a very different vibe to me, the lotus tracks to me have spacey aural feel, while TRC to me sounds very meat-n'-potatoes.


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Reply #26 posted 05/18/09 5:25pm

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

langebleu said:


That's truly remarkable.

Whilst 'From The Lotus' and 'Back 2 The Lotus' share a not dissimilar guitar phrase with part of the coda on 'The Rainbow Children', the underlying song is played in a different key to the Lotusflow3r tracks.

Even more surprising, Prince credits John Blackwell with having played on the track, 'The Rainbow Children' but he credits the drumming parts you say are edited from that recording and issued as Trax 1 and 12 on 'Lotusflow3r' to Michael Bland, with the bass now played by Sonny T.


From and Back to the Lotus, compared to TRC have a very different vibe to me, the lotus tracks to me have spacey aural feel, while TRC to me sounds very meat-n'-potatoes.
[Edited 5/18/09 16:57pm]


Different guitar sound.
it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die
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Reply #27 posted 05/18/09 5:32pm

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WetDream said:

in style, yes.


I'd have to agree here...and there's nothing wrong with that. cool
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Reply #28 posted 05/19/09 2:11am

ZiggmanZoo

Nothing wrong with the similarities. I gotta re-visit the Rainbow Children. I lost the album some years ago and I need to buy it again. But first I'm gonna listen more to Lotusflow3r and especially to 77 Beverly Park. It's fun when Prince throws out surprises!
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Reply #29 posted 05/19/09 6:00am

Graycap23

stanleylieber said:

Graycap23 said:


These songs are morphing all over the place. The credits are what they are.
I would not have given it a second thought until some one brought it up. I pulled out some RC songs and there it was.


But they were recorded in different years by different players.

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