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Reply #180 posted 04/28/09 6:20pm

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That link didnt work. But thanks for trying. I have cookies, if you want one. Im also quite drunk.


Now that explains it giggle
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Reply #181 posted 04/28/09 6:35pm

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keepinitreal said:

liv4love said:



I LOVE this post and ITA with you.....especially what you said about morality...you put it so well...thanks !

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Liv4Love - I think you have to ask yourself how are humans were created and if you believe God created all then you would then have to admit Jehovah has instilled in all human beings in their hearts morality and the fundamental bible beliefs.

If you think mankind and the universe was just an accident and there was no designer/creator of the entire universe that is balanced and works in such a cohesive manner - The reality is there is a creator who has instilled in all humans morality however humans have free will and can choose to follow God's standards or choose to not follow God. So to ask a question of if there was no God wouldnt people still have morality -- the reality is without God there would not be an universe or people in existance.

Just KeepinItReal


Sorry and no offence intended but in my reality there is NO God....or Creator...so are you saying I can't have morals ?? The reality is that many believe as I do.....that there is NO God....so what....love4oneanother doesn't extend to us ?? and those that do believe in God are somehow better or more moral ?...now we are back to subjugation.
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Reply #182 posted 04/28/09 6:38pm

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I just wanted to know if he is having SEX or NO SEX pout since this celibate/celebrate thing going on..
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Reply #183 posted 04/28/09 6:57pm

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eye Smiley should have Prince on for a whole week, he's a complex very intelligent unique person, this was just scratch on the surface...

I want to hear more!

Bloody hell, I may just join a jehovah seminar just to get Prince at a discussion table.

He really opened up in this interview, Prince has definitely progressed expressing himself in interviews and gotten more comfortable in public as compared to other interviews in the past (which at one time could be viewed on youtube bawl); he was noncommunicative, very shy, or seemed uncomfortable in most of the things I've seen up to about the Emancipation period. Of course, Prince expects/demands Smiley isn't going to ask him controversies about his past (which I have seen Prince dismiss in front of his band when asked this by an Australian interviewer "Uhm, let's not,,") and Smiley won't get overly critical, or just plain idiotic in the "fair and balanced" hackdom of Diane Sawyers.

Tavis Smiley kept jacking around with his tie, mumbling. Next time write the questions down, clock's tickin dog.

Alot of folks on here seem surprise on Prince's views of religion, politics. Why? You must not have kept up on his past's statements in interviews to get a glimpse of his worldview. He won't be completely accepting of any politican or human leader because he believes they are part of a "system" of control, whether they are conscious of it or not. Likewise did you hear his statement to the effect of that things here on Earth will be getting rougher and we will need each other. Again, Bibilical prophecy.

His view of the UN being more religious as an entity than the U.S., that's a premature statement based on how many views on TV when he's there?

Also the chemtrails conspiracy, that's pretty whacked. But it would tie-in with Prince's beliefs of human mass control and power in a system stemmed from the Tree of Knowledge.

Now where's Bria ? drooling oral
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Reply #184 posted 04/28/09 7:02pm

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Reply #185 posted 04/28/09 7:07pm

bellanoche

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Tavis, why all the asskissing man? Just interview the guy, Jesus.

Act like he is some guy you just met--no more slobbering on the hambone.

Prince said some good things, but mostly said some really loony stuff as well. All that crazy shit about Chemtrails--you all know what that is about, right? Conspiracy theorists believe that the government spray chemicals in the black community so that blacks will kill each other. It's some plot to destroy the black race. If Prince believes that he is beyond nuts. There is zero evidence to support any of it, beyond what one man says. Where's your scientific evidence, Dick? Sure, inner cities tend to have more toxic waste dumps and pollution--why not stick with that, Prince?

So he doesn't believe in the Separation of church and state? Hey, P, if you want to live in Iran you are welcome to. We are a secular country. Live with that fact or move.

"Barack Obama means well." A black man becomes President and that's all you can say? You're as bad as the tea party idiots. Obama is not our saviour, but he deserves our respect.

Now he's Jack Johnson? P, Johnson had racist thugs call him nigger and pledge to hang him from the highest tree. I doubt a rich dude as yourself has that issue.

He takes criticism well? Does he smoke dope or do I? This guy is the single most anti-critical human in artistic history. He sure has no problem dissing others, especially when they curse. "They need to be critical, but in love." How can I love someone I don't even know? My criticism is in love, because hard honesty is how love stays real. Bullshitting is not love.

"there were 8 Presidents before Washington." Huh? Really?? Those JW's need to stop reading comic books as history text.

Sheesh. lol


Well, I do not see why he is nuts if he believes in the theory of chemtrails. Let's look at the history of this country's treatment and attempted destruction of black people from slavery on through the sterilization of black women in hospitals and the Tuskegee experiments right on up to the intentional dumping of toxic chemicals and waste into area where poor black people live. I am curious 2Freaky, are you white? If so, you might be one of the white folks Prince needs have over to the house to view Dick Gregory's speech.
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Reply #186 posted 04/28/09 7:16pm

japanrocks

bellanoche said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Tavis, why all the asskissing man? Just interview the guy, Jesus.

Act like he is some guy you just met--no more slobbering on the hambone.

Prince said some good things, but mostly said some really loony stuff as well. All that crazy shit about Chemtrails--you all know what that is about, right? Conspiracy theorists believe that the government spray chemicals in the black community so that blacks will kill each other. It's some plot to destroy the black race. If Prince believes that he is beyond nuts. There is zero evidence to support any of it, beyond what one man says. Where's your scientific evidence, Dick? Sure, inner cities tend to have more toxic waste dumps and pollution--why not stick with that, Prince?

So he doesn't believe in the Separation of church and state? Hey, P, if you want to live in Iran you are welcome to. We are a secular country. Live with that fact or move.

"Barack Obama means well." A black man becomes President and that's all you can say? You're as bad as the tea party idiots. Obama is not our saviour, but he deserves our respect.

Now he's Jack Johnson? P, Johnson had racist thugs call him nigger and pledge to hang him from the highest tree. I doubt a rich dude as yourself has that issue.

He takes criticism well? Does he smoke dope or do I? This guy is the single most anti-critical human in artistic history. He sure has no problem dissing others, especially when they curse. "They need to be critical, but in love." How can I love someone I don't even know? My criticism is in love, because hard honesty is how love stays real. Bullshitting is not love.

"there were 8 Presidents before Washington." Huh? Really?? Those JW's need to stop reading comic books as history text.

Sheesh. lol


Well, I do not see why he is nuts if he believes in the theory of chemtrails. Let's look at the history of this country's treatment and attempted destruction of black people from slavery own through the sterilization of black women in hospitals and the Tuskeegee experiments right on up to the intentional dumping of toxic chemicals and waste into area where poor black people live. I am curious 2Freaky, are you white? If so, you might be one of the white folks Prince needs have over to the house to view Dick Gregory's speech.
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Reply #187 posted 04/28/09 7:22pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Tavis, why all the asskissing man? Just interview the guy, Jesus.

Act like he is some guy you just met--no more slobbering on the hambone.

Prince said some good things, but mostly said some really loony stuff as well. All that crazy shit about Chemtrails--you all know what that is about, right? Conspiracy theorists believe that the government spray chemicals in the black community so that blacks will kill each other. It's some plot to destroy the black race. If Prince believes that he is beyond nuts. There is zero evidence to support any of it, beyond what one man says. Where's your scientific evidence, Dick? Sure, inner cities tend to have more toxic waste dumps and pollution--why not stick with that, Prince?

So he doesn't believe in the Separation of church and state? Hey, P, if you want to live in Iran you are welcome to. We are a secular country. Live with that fact or move.

"Barack Obama means well." A black man becomes President and that's all you can say? You're as bad as the tea party idiots. Obama is not our saviour, but he deserves our respect.

Now he's Jack Johnson? P, Johnson had racist thugs call him nigger and pledge to hang him from the highest tree. I doubt a rich dude as yourself has that issue.

He takes criticism well? Does he smoke dope or do I? This guy is the single most anti-critical human in artistic history. He sure has no problem dissing others, especially when they curse. "They need to be critical, but in love." How can I love someone I don't even know? My criticism is in love, because hard honesty is how love stays real. Bullshitting is not love.

"there were 8 Presidents before Washington." Huh? Really?? Those JW's need to stop reading comic books as history text.

Sheesh. lol


Actually I don't quite understand what this is about, is this something recent or history?
Why is Prince still living in the past. Let it go and move forward. I know it is difficult but no use opening up old wounds... let them heal.
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Reply #188 posted 04/28/09 7:25pm

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42freaky4church1 said:

Tavis, why all the asskissing man? Just interview the guy, Jesus.

Act like he is some guy you just met--no more slobbering on the hambone.




I gotta admit Tavis is hysterical... I think I even saw him drooling.... lol
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Reply #189 posted 04/28/09 7:28pm

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japanrocks said:

bellanoche said:



Well, I do not see why he is nuts if he believes in the theory of chemtrails. Let's look at the history of this country's treatment and attempted destruction of black people from slavery on through the sterilization of black women in hospitals and the Tuskeegee experiments right on up to the intentional dumping of toxic chemicals and waste into area where poor black people live. I am curious 2Freaky, are you white? If so, you might be one of the white folks Prince needs have over to the house to view Dick Gregory's speech.
wink


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Japanrocks, what about my statements indicates that? If you know anything about the history of blacks in America, which you obviously do not, I referenced facts, actual documented incidents in American history where black people were targeted for destruction. Is used them to state that if Prince bases his acceptance of the chemtrail theory on this history he is not completely "nuts" as 2Freaky opined. So, what about that says that I am breathing chemicals?


I don't want to hijack this thread or get too far OT. However, this is for Japanrocks, so that you know I am not breathing in chemtrails.

Sterilization of Black Women

"Well Grounded Fears

In the 1960s, many African Americans around the country deeply distrusted the motivations behind government funded birth control clinics, fearing it was an attempt to limit black population growth and stunt black political power. Their fears were well grounded in past experiences. In the South, black fertility had a long history of being controlled by whites. Under slavery, African American women were encouraged to have children to increase a plantation owner's wealth. After the Civil War, when African Americans were no longer valuable property, the view among white supremacists abruptly shifted. It became desirable to decrease the African American population in the South. Sterilization abuse of African American women by the white medical establishment reached its height in the 1950s and 1960s. Women who went into the hospital to deliver children often came out unable to have more."

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/a...ocide.html

Tuskegee Experiment

Using Human Beings as Laboratory Animals

The true nature of the experiment had to be kept from the subjects to ensure their cooperation. The sharecroppers' grossly disadvantaged lot in life made them easy to manipulate. Pleased at the prospect of free medical care —almost none of them had ever seen a doctor before— these unsophisticated and trusting men became the pawns in what James Jones, author of the excellent history on the subject, Bad Blood, identified as “the longest non-therapeutic experiment on human beings in medical history.”

The study was meant to discover how syphilis affected blacks as opposed to whites —the theory being that whites experienced more neurological complications from syphilis, whereas blacks were more susceptible to cardiovascular damage. How this knowledge would have changed clinical treatment of syphilis is uncertain.

. . .

When the experiment was brought to the attention of the media in 1972, news anchor Harry Reasoner described it as an experiment that “used human beings as laboratory animals in a long and inefficient study of how long it takes syphilis to kill someone.


A Heavy Price in the Name of Bad Science

By the end of the experiment, 28 of the men had died directly of syphilis, 100 were dead of related complications, 40 of their wives had been infected, and 19 of their children had been born with congenital syphilis. How had these men been induced to endure a fatal disease in the name of science?

To persuade the community to support the experiment, one of the original doctors admitted it “was necessary to carry on this study under the guise of a demonstration and provide treatment.” At first, the men were prescribed the syphilis remedies of the day —bismuth, neoarsphenamine, and mercury— but in such small amounts that only 3 percent showed any improvement.

These token doses of medicine were good public relations and did not interfere with the true aims of the study. Eventually, all syphilis treatment was replaced with “pink medicine” —aspirin.

To ensure that the men would show up for a painful and potentially dangerous spinal tap, the PHS doctors misled them with a letter full of promotional hype: “Last Chance for Special Free Treatment.” The fact that autopsies would eventually be required was also concealed.

As a doctor explained, “If the colored population becomes aware that accepting free hospital care means a post-mortem, every darky will leave Macon County...” Even the Surgeon General of the United States participated in enticing the men to remain in the experiment, sending them certificates of appreciation after 25 years in the study."


http://www.tuskegee.edu/G...?s=1207586

There are too many cases of intentional dumping of toxic waste in black neighborhoods for me to post. Just Google "dumping toxic waste in black neighborhoods" some time.
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Reply #190 posted 04/28/09 7:42pm

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Jazz albums? hmmm music
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Reply #191 posted 04/28/09 7:51pm

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I can't wait to see this. I have it recorded. ..I saw a preview of the interview last night. Loved what he said about people needing encouragement ..and if they get that ..they can do anything. The answer to this may be here somewhere and I missed it ..but why..do you think he named the album LOTUSFLOW3R?
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Reply #192 posted 04/28/09 8:01pm

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pplrain said:

42freaky4church1 said:

Tavis, why all the asskissing man? Just interview the guy, Jesus.

Act like he is some guy you just met--no more slobbering on the hambone.




I gotta admit Tavis is hysterical... I think I even saw him drooling.... lol


He wasn't drooling. He's good friends with P:



lol
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Reply #193 posted 04/28/09 8:02pm

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Riverpoet31 said:

Poor interview.

Just the expected example of Princes reluctance to really show what he is feeling underneath.


I didn't feel that way at all. confuse
I thought he opened up a bit more than he usually does.
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Reply #194 posted 04/28/09 8:04pm

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I simply don't get why Prince always seems the need to mystify things, and too be 'cryptic' about himself.

As if people with some common sense don't look through him?

Its one thing if you are acting like an enigma when you are 20-something, at the start of your career, but it gets annoying when you are a 50 yo that keeps playing the same kind of games.

I honestly think Prince would get a lot more respect when he simply opens up, and expresses himself beyond the calculated answers people like Tavis Smiley 'take' from him.
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Reply #195 posted 04/28/09 8:11pm

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p4life said:

YOU CAN WATCH THE FULL INTERVIEW HERE SORRY FOR THE CAPS.....IN A HURRY wink

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/p...8s25bbq8e1


Great, thanks!


Thank you, Serena wink
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Reply #196 posted 04/28/09 8:12pm

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RUHip2TheJive said:

pplrain said:




I gotta admit Tavis is hysterical... I think I even saw him drooling.... lol


He wasn't drooling. He's good friends with P:



lol
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Ok... he has a drooly kinda way of speaking... lol slobbering..? lol
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Reply #197 posted 04/28/09 8:17pm

keepinitreal

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keepinitreal said:



Liv4Love - I think you have to ask yourself how are humans were created and if you believe God created all then you would then have to admit Jehovah has instilled in all human beings in their hearts morality and the fundamental bible beliefs.

If you think mankind and the universe was just an accident and there was no designer/creator of the entire universe that is balanced and works in such a cohesive manner - The reality is there is a creator who has instilled in all humans morality however humans have free will and can choose to follow God's standards or choose to not follow God. So to ask a question of if there was no God wouldnt people still have morality -- the reality is without God there would not be an universe or people in existance.

Just KeepinItReal


Sorry and no offence intended but in my reality there is NO God....or Creator...so are you saying I can't have morals ?? The reality is that many believe as I do.....that there is NO God....so what....love4oneanother doesn't extend to us ?? and those that do believe in God are somehow better or more moral ?...now we are back to subjugation.
L4L

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Liv4Love - I think you missed my point -- My point is how did you obtain your morals - and I believe as a human being we all are created by God and are instilled in our heart with his standards from the bible instintively - However just like Adam and Eve a person can choose with their free will to follow the instintive morals provided by God or not. Also depending on the environment a person is raised also affects their morals/ethics.

The point I am making is even though you do not believe in God does not mean you were not instilled with morals from God and from people around you who do believe in God. It is your choice to believe or not believe - I am just providing my comment to your post and I am not judging you.

Just KeepinItReal
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Reply #198 posted 04/28/09 8:19pm

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Damn, first folks complain cuz P dont do interviews much, then he does one and they find all kinds of shit to complain about.
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Reply #199 posted 04/28/09 9:00pm

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OK just watched it. My first thought is what is going on with this Tavis guy.

Thankfully we don't get this rubbish in Australia (We've got plenty of our own!).

He can barely string a sentence together, is clearly a P sycophant and seems to be under the misapprehension he's actually a journalist!

Serious question. How is he on TV??
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Reply #200 posted 04/28/09 9:12pm

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Reply #201 posted 04/28/09 9:27pm

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I'm watching the Bria/ Prince interview right now and it's clearly that they been here reading our post here on the org. They made comments about a lot of things we complained about. .
Tavis did great asking great questions.
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Reply #202 posted 04/28/09 9:28pm

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merrickjones69 said:

I'm watching the Bria/ Prince interview right now and it's clearly that they been here reading our post here on the org. They made comments about a lot of things we complained about. .
Tavis did great asking great questions.


nod I liked today's interview a lot better
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Reply #203 posted 04/28/09 9:30pm

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merrickjones69 said:

I'm watching the Bria/ Prince interview right now and it's clearly that they been here reading our post here on the org.


LOL RIGHT!
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Reply #204 posted 04/28/09 9:31pm

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merrickjones69 said:

I'm watching the Bria/ Prince interview right now and it's clearly that they been here reading our post here on the org. They made comments about a lot of things we complained about. .
Tavis did great asking great questions.


nod

Part 2 was far better! Prince and Bria both sound very humbled by the critical reception to her cd:

-Prince backtracking on the Sade comparison
-Bria saying to Tavis they made exceptional elevator music

It is clear that they both read the reviews here on the ORG because this is the only place where anyone brought up Chante Moore's name. Of course, the comparisons always cast Bria as a lesser vocalist, but nonetheless they were made here.

All in all, I think Prince sounds very intelligent and comes across quite informed when talking about the ins and outs of the music business--his field. He has truly mastered his field of endeavor and is to be credited for that.
"That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32
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Reply #205 posted 04/28/09 9:31pm

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merrickjones69 said:

I'm watching the Bria/ Prince interview right now and it's clearly that they been here reading our post here on the org. They made comments about a lot of things we complained about. .
Tavis did great asking great questions.


yeah .... how did Prince find out about the Sade rant lol .... But I'm glad he digs THE QUEEN.
cool lol



Matter of fact let me play Stronger than Pride right now!
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Reply #206 posted 04/28/09 9:38pm

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Damn, first folks complain cuz P dont do interviews much, then he does one and they find all kinds of shit to complain about.
disbelief


i agree with you, it's crazy how everyone is complaining! mad be glad he DID an interview folks! lol
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Reply #207 posted 04/28/09 9:39pm

NuPwrSoul

He mentioned wanting to work with Anita Baker... and a jazz record with John Blackwell, Rhonda, and Renato... based on how the Target deal goes. NEWS/Expectation part 2?
"That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32
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Reply #208 posted 04/28/09 9:40pm

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kimrachell said:

thepope2the9s said:

Damn, first folks complain cuz P dont do interviews much, then he does one and they find all kinds of shit to complain about.
disbelief


i agree with you, it's crazy how everyone is complaining! mad be glad he DID an interview folks! lol


i finished my blog post on the two nights... so many different things I wanna do now... on top of working on my critiquing and determining a few other things wink

yeah, the more I watched the interview, the more I was hearing the jeering voices here and wondering why the hell I waste my time here with them lol
had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone
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Reply #209 posted 04/28/09 10:00pm

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Is this interview broken up into two parts at two different times? According to my paper, it aired at 7:00 and will air again at 11:00. Is it a repeat or is the interview broken up into two segments?
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