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Reply #420 posted 04/30/09 3:28pm

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japanrocks said:

any idea where to watch this online?

pbs.org tavis smiley show
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Reply #421 posted 04/30/09 3:59pm

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CarolineC said:

I just finished watching the second part of the interview. (Thanks for posting the links cause it's not gonna be on Italian TV any time soon.)

As a former journalist, Tavis' refusal to ask the most obvious follow-up questions made me cringe, BUT he did get Prince to relax and open up. His tactic was to speak to him as a friend and pretty much sit back and let Prince talk. I have to say it worked well.

But it was a little crazy hearing Prince say that there have been eight presidents before George Washington and watching Tavis sit there and nod pleasantly. Come on, even a friend could have asked, "Really, who were they?" I think Tavis didn't ask the follow-up because he knew the answer would make Prince sound kinda nuts.

Still, it was good to hear Prince talk at such length. Like others have said, Prince seems at peace with himself and I'm happy for him. He is always interesting to listen to - plus he's got such a cool speaking voice.
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i am not an expert but i think the 8 presidents prince was speaking of were under the article of confederation. some people consider them to have been presidents before george washington and some don't it depends on how you view it. they are as follows in order John Hanson, Elias Boudinot, Thomas Mifflin, Richard Henry Lee, John Hancock, Nathaniel Gorham, Arthur St. Claire and Cyrus Griffin. If you google presidents before Goerge Washington you can read all about them and form your own opinion. i hope this helps
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Reply #422 posted 04/30/09 4:28pm

godlover

Aint no way Larry be Jimi in a battle!
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Reply #423 posted 04/30/09 4:37pm

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I'm really curious about that Larry, Jimi story.
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Reply #424 posted 04/30/09 4:50pm

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godlover said:

Aint no way Larry be Jimi in a battle!


Well, the reall battle would have been Sly vs Jimi, not Larry vs Jimi.
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Reply #425 posted 04/30/09 5:10pm

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Ok first Prince you might want to use Wikipedia more often. Information is not all locked up and spoon fed to people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...l_Congress


Chem Trails? http://en.wikipedia.org/w...hem_trails

ya ok whatever lol

I really enjoyed his discussion of music and how he "tries" to channel his anger into it.

All around very enjoyable. But as per usual I feel like its all been rehearsed.

He even seems to edit himself as he speaks and sometimes you can see him thinking " oops! did I just say that? grr"

hehe

Good Stuff! Prince is one fun guy to watch!
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Reply #426 posted 04/30/09 5:14pm

2elijah

WaterInYourBath said:

2elijah said:



I know exactly what you mean about Dyson's style of speaking, not everyone can deal with it, but he means well. He did fine at the SOBU conference as a matter of fact, but when it was his turn to give last minute thoughts or suggestions, he went into his usual style of speaking, but since he and Dr. West has sat at the same tables many times during various discussions, I'm sure by now Dr. West is used to Prof. Dyson.

I'm sure you would also agree that Dyson would probably try to get the last word if there was an actual roundtable discussion with him, Prince, Tavis, Dr. West and others.. lol I remember Dyson being insulted by a guest on Bill Maher's show because he did not like Dyson's style of preaching or his opinions, and he tried to demean Prof. Dyson. I guess Dyson must have touched him with the truth somewhere and he couldn't handle it. lol
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Yep! nod Those are perfect examples of what I meant. Although he's normally always positive and constructive, Dyson is still usually somewhat merciless (LOL) with his coherent thoughts/words when speaking in a forum with others. His dialogue flows out of him so easily. And U're right: Dr. West knows how to handle Dyson during discussion, but I wouldn't say that for many others. lol

The more I think about this though, the more I actually WOULD like to see how Prince would respond to Dyson....Hmm....OK, I've changed my mind: Yes, I would like to see Prince, Tavis, Dr. West, and Prof. Dyson on a public TV show talking about history and current events. That would be very interesting...


Yes, it would be very interesting indeed.
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Reply #427 posted 04/30/09 5:27pm

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NDRU said:

godlover said:

Aint no way Larry be Jimi in a battle!


Well, the reall battle would have been Sly vs Jimi, not Larry vs Jimi.


No one could touch Jimi. I know a few elders that seen him back in the day and it was a once in a lifetime jaw dropping experience to see Jimi rip up on the geetar...one of the guys I know still gets goose bumps just thinking about it.

Larry G., Sly are great but Larry be tripping on drugs if he thought he whipped Jimi. Half the time those guys showed up to gigs drunk and high. IMO GCS, showed Larry's ability a lil more than the Sly and the Fam stuff..that stuff really showcases how great Sly is. But no one touching Jimi. No way.
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Reply #428 posted 04/30/09 5:35pm

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realm said:

NDRU said:



Well, the reall battle would have been Sly vs Jimi, not Larry vs Jimi.


No one could touch Jimi. I know a few elders that seen him back in the day and it was a once in a lifetime jaw dropping experience to see Jimi rip up on the geetar...one of the guys I know still gets goose bumps just thinking about it.

Larry G., Sly are great but Larry be tripping on drugs if he thought he whipped Jimi. Half the time those guys showed up to gigs drunk and high. IMO GCS, showed Larry's ability a lil more than the Sly and the Fam stuff..that stuff really showcases how great Sly is. But no one touching Jimi. No way.


that's fine, I'm just pointing out to to the person who suggested that Larry couldn't beat Jimi, that Larry was not the one who was in battle (outside of the car accident).

Just like Noel Redding didn't whup Sly either. Either Sly whipped Jimi or Jimi whipped Sly
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Reply #429 posted 04/30/09 5:35pm

realm

goodlookingmofo said:

prince could of been a mean person?

could of?

sinead o connor would say different


I don't see the mean side as a terrible thing.

I would be interested to know if he channeled some of the anger into work back in the days?? It almost seems like he is dealing with some of it now. Who knows. Prince said at one of the ONA soundchecks that the Sinead O stuff gone done right about the time things started to go bad with WB. It sounds like they told him what to do with his songs.
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Reply #430 posted 04/30/09 5:45pm

realm

NDRU said:

that's fine, I'm just pointing out to to the person who suggested that Larry couldn't beat Jimi, that Larry was not the one who was in battle (outside of the car accident).

Just like Noel Redding didn't whup Sly either. Either Sly whipped Jimi or Jimi whipped Sly


True...umm Larry G could only help Sly..hmm. Unless they were trippin on drugs, I guess that just gone with the times. I know what you're sayin it was Sly and Jimi in the ring!! I still don't believe Sly had the same magic Jimi had??
My uncle seen legendary bands like the doors..etc. and still gone with Jimi was the best ever, ever, ever. Wish I could have seen that show..ha
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Reply #431 posted 04/30/09 5:52pm

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interesting 2 c that prince mentioned myspace...
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Reply #432 posted 04/30/09 5:53pm

realm

WaterInYourBath said:

The more I think about this though, the more I actually WOULD like to see how Prince would respond to Dyson....Hmm....OK, I've changed my mind: Yes, I would like to see Prince, Tavis, Dr. West, and Prof. Dyson on a public TV show talking about history and current events. That would be very interesting...


The only Dyson I wanna pay money to see Prince communicating with: Kat Dyson on the bass!
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Reply #433 posted 04/30/09 6:15pm

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realm said:

NDRU said:

that's fine, I'm just pointing out to to the person who suggested that Larry couldn't beat Jimi, that Larry was not the one who was in battle (outside of the car accident).

Just like Noel Redding didn't whup Sly either. Either Sly whipped Jimi or Jimi whipped Sly


True...umm Larry G could only help Sly..hmm. Unless they were trippin on drugs, I guess that just gone with the times. I know what you're sayin it was Sly and Jimi in the ring!! I still don't believe Sly had the same magic Jimi had??
My uncle seen legendary bands like the doors..etc. and still gone with Jimi was the best ever, ever, ever. Wish I could have seen that show..ha


I think you're right about three things--that they were smoking crack, they didn't whip Jimi, AND I wish I was there smile
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Reply #434 posted 04/30/09 6:57pm

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He called Andre his best friend....
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Reply #435 posted 04/30/09 7:45pm

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ToraToraDreams said:

He called Andre his best friend....

I was wonderin if he was talkin past or if him and Andre still that tight.
I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
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Reply #436 posted 04/30/09 8:02pm

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JayJai said:

ToraToraDreams said:

He called Andre his best friend....

I was wonderin if he was talkin past or if him and Andre still that tight.

Yeah, that stuck out to me. Makes me wonder.
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Reply #437 posted 04/30/09 8:33pm

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I noticed a certain sadness when he said people say things behind his back. I think he was referencing Wendy's comment on calling him being a "fancy lesbian".

I feel it is so hurtful for Wendy to say that of a former friend, especially since she knows people are always saying hurtful things about him. What really is her point? Also it was Prince who brought her into his band and this is how she repays him. Sad isn't it? sad

Prince I think has so much more class in how he handled the situation. He said, they were in love before and why not now, there is a true romantic side to this man that I absolutely LOVE. cool
Calling someone a lesbian is an insult?
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Reply #438 posted 04/30/09 9:26pm

angelface22

I really enjoyed this interview. He seems much more personable then general audiences would assume.
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Reply #439 posted 04/30/09 10:14pm

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NDRU said:

godlover said:

Aint no way Larry be Jimi in a battle!


Well, the reall battle would have been Sly vs Jimi, not Larry vs Jimi.


I didn't quite understand what the story was about: Sly and Larry got in an accident in NYC then went to a show and were so strung up from the accident that they played really well. Is this the synopsis?
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Reply #440 posted 04/30/09 10:16pm

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Vendetta1 said:

pplrain said:

I noticed a certain sadness when he said people say things behind his back. I think he was referencing Wendy's comment on calling him being a "fancy lesbian".

I feel it is so hurtful for Wendy to say that of a former friend, especially since she knows people are always saying hurtful things about him. What really is her point? Also it was Prince who brought her into his band and this is how she repays him. Sad isn't it? sad

Prince I think has so much more class in how he handled the situation. He said, they were in love before and why not now, there is a true romantic side to this man that I absolutely LOVE. cool
Calling someone a lesbian is an insult?


Not quite a compliment to label a heterosexual man a "fancy lesbian", some heterosexual men also find it offensive to be labeled "gay" if they are not. This is by no means an insult to gay men, but Wendy knew Prince is heterosexual so why the label? confused
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Reply #441 posted 04/30/09 10:52pm

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pplrain said:

NDRU said:



Well, the reall battle would have been Sly vs Jimi, not Larry vs Jimi.


I didn't quite understand what the story was about: Sly and Larry got in an accident in NYC then went to a show and were so strung up from the accident that they played really well. Is this the synopsis?


He was talking about the music. he used the story as an example of how they had two different sides to them... one of love, the other of aggression and competition and how that emanated through their music. at least, thats what i picked off of it.
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Reply #442 posted 05/01/09 4:13am

Vendetta1

pplrain said:

Vendetta1 said:

Calling someone a lesbian is an insult?


Not quite a compliment to label a heterosexual man a "fancy lesbian", some heterosexual men also find it offensive to be labeled "gay" if they are not. This is by no means an insult to gay men, but Wendy knew Prince is heterosexual so why the label? confused
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She also said he was very straight. confused

He's the guy walking around with a woman inside of him. Plus, he is very feminine and loves women. I have no idea how Wendy could ever call him that. neutral
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Reply #443 posted 05/01/09 4:30am

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I just watched the interviews with Tavis Smiley. Prince is not who he says he is. Bria seems like a sweet girl so i hope you read this message. Prince has been out with a bunch of different girls in la and he sees a girl in nyc who he was out with on saturday. Watch your back he cant be faithful to one person to save his life. He is 51 years old and still playing girls and hanging out in night clubs, what does that tell you? Dont put all your eggs in one basket be smart Bria he is not the kind of man you think he is. I wish you luck in your career. God bless




mmmmm thts interesting to read and hear .... well l be surprise ...
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Reply #444 posted 05/01/09 4:42am

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danzakairos said:[quote]As sad as this whole thing sounds, I believe it. Prince has is known to not want to be alone, he even said with his own mouth he like beautiful things (Girls), and likes to be surounded by them. My question is how does he expect to find the love of his life if she's made to feel she has to compete with all these women? And may not even want to (if she is smart) sad



you made some interesting points here !!! which makes u wonder cool
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Reply #445 posted 05/01/09 6:17am

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worhol said:

I just watched the interviews with Tavis Smiley. Prince is not who he says he is. Bria seems like a sweet girl so i hope you read this message. Prince has been out with a bunch of different girls in la and he sees a girl in nyc who he was out with on saturday. Watch your back he cant be faithful to one person to save his life. He is 51 years old and still playing girls and hanging out in night clubs, what does that tell you? Dont put all your eggs in one basket be smart Bria he is not the kind of man you think he is. I wish you luck in your career. God bless


assuming bria's all innocent that is.. if she's riding this jw/prince wave for nothing more than fame and glory then hey, they're both using each other. shrug not saying she is but that's also another aspect to think about.
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Reply #446 posted 05/01/09 6:20am

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jaynoonan said:

thepope2the9s said:



he reads a teleprompter like nobodys business....

At least Obama can speak with correct grammar. And it is nice to hear complete, thought out sentences, UNLIKE our ex- red neck President!
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Just because W is from the south doesn't make him a redneck. It is not uncommon that people think southern accents are a sign of ignorance. Go south, even doctors and lawyers speak like Bush. Bush earned better grades at Yale than the psuedo-erudite Al Gore.
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Reply #447 posted 05/01/09 6:27am

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2elijah said:

purplecam said:

I'm also glad that Prince clarified the Sade comment. It made me think of the org when he said that. giggle I wasn't bent out of shape over it but a lot of people here were and I'm glad that it was made clear for them. He was on point with Bria's CD. It definately has a romantic vibe on it.


I agree because he was setting her up for high expectations when he mentioned that to the journalist that interviewed him, and that would have been putting a lot of pressure on her with high expectations on her. Especially since a lot of Sade fans have been missing Sade. Sade is an artist in her own right with her own unique flavor that I doubt could ever be duplicated.

However, as far as Bria's sound, she has more of a smooth-jazz flavor that would go over well with Anita Baker fans. I could see smooth jazz stations playing her type music. Especially tracks like "All This Love" and "Everytime"; "Something You Already Know"(a very sexy, but tastfully sexy, yet smooth track); only comment I could say about that track, on some parts in the song, she could have put a little more feeling into some parts of that track as there's a part in that song, where it sounds like she is dragging her voice along, I think it is one of the parts where she repeats "..all up close to me"..other than that, it's one of my favorite tracks on that cd.
"Home" and "Another Boy" are on the R&B side, and I'm quite surprised it's not being played on R&B stations at the moment, because those 2 tracks pretty much falls into mainstream R&B, but then again most of us have questions on those behind the radio stations and their decisions on what type of music they choose to play; "2nite" is definitely for the club scene; "Elixer" should be played behind bedroom doors, to be played when the kiddies are out at Aunty's or grandma's house, while a mom/dad is spending some quiet or alone time together or for couples that haven't seen each other for a week and can't wait to "get it on and rollin".

As far as Prince working with other artists, it would be cool if we could get a collaboration with Anita Baker. Also, I'd like to see him work with "Esthero". Esthero also has sort of a sexy, smooth jazz flavor, but she also has experience working with other hip-hop artists, so she could gravitate to various flavors. I like her track "Thank Heaven for You" which I find to be a very, mellow track.
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She compared her voice to Chante Moore. Not even close Bria. Bria's voice is sadly thin. She explained that she met Prince when she was "working" with Morris Hayes at Paisley Park at the age of 17. Sounds hauntingly familiar. Unfortunately, I think she will be added to the long list of proteges who have walked off into the sunset.
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Reply #448 posted 05/01/09 6:52am

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fredericdoug said:

2elijah said:



I agree because he was setting her up for high expectations when he mentioned that to the journalist that interviewed him, and that would have been putting a lot of pressure on her with high expectations on her. Especially since a lot of Sade fans have been missing Sade. Sade is an artist in her own right with her own unique flavor that I doubt could ever be duplicated.

However, as far as Bria's sound, she has more of a smooth-jazz flavor that would go over well with Anita Baker fans. I could see smooth jazz stations playing her type music. Especially tracks like "All This Love" and "Everytime"; "Something You Already Know"(a very sexy, but tastfully sexy, yet smooth track); only comment I could say about that track, on some parts in the song, she could have put a little more feeling into some parts of that track as there's a part in that song, where it sounds like she is dragging her voice along, I think it is one of the parts where she repeats "..all up close to me"..other than that, it's one of my favorite tracks on that cd.
"Home" and "Another Boy" are on the R&B side, and I'm quite surprised it's not being played on R&B stations at the moment, because those 2 tracks pretty much falls into mainstream R&B, but then again most of us have questions on those behind the radio stations and their decisions on what type of music they choose to play; "2nite" is definitely for the club scene; "Elixer" should be played behind bedroom doors, to be played when the kiddies are out at Aunty's or grandma's house, while a mom/dad is spending some quiet or alone time together or for couples that haven't seen each other for a week and can't wait to "get it on and rollin".

As far as Prince working with other artists, it would be cool if we could get a collaboration with Anita Baker. Also, I'd like to see him work with "Esthero". Esthero also has sort of a sexy, smooth jazz flavor, but she also has experience working with other hip-hop artists, so she could gravitate to various flavors. I like her track "Thank Heaven for You" which I find to be a very, mellow track.
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She compared her voice to Chante Moore. Not even close Bria. Bria's voice is sadly thin. She explained that she met Prince when she was "working" with Morris Hayes at Paisley Park at the age of 17. Sounds hauntingly familiar. Unfortunately, I think she will be added to the long list of proteges who have walked off into the sunset.


A lot of fans on the org compared her voice to Chante Moore before the interview. I never really listened to Chante Moore's music, so I really can't make a comparison. Bria, in my opinion, has a more of a smooth, jazz flavor, and does okay with the r&b sound, and I believe she'll do fine in both those areas if she dedicates herself to enhancing her sound. Never anything wrong with more room for improvement or doing better each time, although she sounds fine for her first album. I could actually see a station like CD101.9 a smooth jazz station playing her songs. I mentioned "All this Love" which is in that category, so is "Everytime" which has a bossa nova, light jazz flavor.

I mentioned artist "Esthero" because her voice is on borderline smooth jazz/romance as well as a bit of New Orleans jazz sound, but "Esthero" can actually get you "into" her songs when she sings it, and the fact that she has good instrumentation on her tracks. Just like "Sade" did, which is why Sade's music, and her distinguished voice blew so many fans over. You felt Sade's songs, she took/takes you there. If you listen to Sade's "Ordinary Love", you can hear different ranges/pitches that flow eloquently along with the musicians' instruments at the right time. She knows when to raise or lower her pitch. Her expressions when she sang as well, had fit well with her image and her music. I guess that is why she has always stood out.

Getting back to Bria, we'll see where she goes with her singing career after Elixer.
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Reply #449 posted 05/01/09 8:52am

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2elijah said:

fredericdoug said:



She compared her voice to Chante Moore. Not even close Bria. Bria's voice is sadly thin. She explained that she met Prince when she was "working" with Morris Hayes at Paisley Park at the age of 17. Sounds hauntingly familiar. Unfortunately, I think she will be added to the long list of proteges who have walked off into the sunset.


A lot of fans on the org compared her voice to Chante Moore before the interview. I never really listened to Chante Moore's music, so I really can't make a comparison. Bria, in my opinion, has a more of a smooth, jazz flavor, and does okay with the r&b sound, and I believe she'll do fine in both those areas if she dedicates herself to enhancing her sound. Never anything wrong with more room for improvement or doing better each time, although she sounds fine for her first album. I could actually see a station like CD101.9 a smooth jazz station playing her songs. I mentioned "All this Love" which is in that category, so is "Everytime" which has a bossa nova, light jazz flavor.

I mentioned artist "Esthero" because her voice is on borderline smooth jazz/romance as well as a bit of New Orleans jazz sound, but "Esthero" can actually get you "into" her songs when she sings it, and the fact that she has good instrumentation on her tracks. Just like "Sade" did, which is why Sade's music, and her distinguished voice blew so many fans over. You felt Sade's songs, she took/takes you there. If you listen to Sade's "Ordinary Love", you can hear different ranges/pitches that flow eloquently along with the musicians' instruments at the right time. She knows when to raise or lower her pitch. Her expressions when she sang as well, had fit well with her image and her music. I guess that is why she has always stood out.

Getting back to Bria, we'll see where she goes with her singing career after Elixer.
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We only compared Bria's music to Chante Moore's not because of how it sounds b/c Bria can not compare on any level of Chante Moore's vocal abilities but the sensual side of her music. Almost like this album was made for Chante to sing and not Bria.
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