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Reply #270 posted 04/27/09 9:34pm

Se7en

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jone70 said:

WTF is he talking about 8 presidents before George Washington? I cringe when he starts the religion babble, it makes him sound really, really stupid.


Actually, I just looked this up and it's true. One of the first political/historical things that Prince has taught me!

The 8 presidents before Washington were before the Constitution was in place.
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Reply #271 posted 04/27/09 9:36pm

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Great interview so far. I've never heard about him speaking about his father this much.


I will admit it's hard to hear him talking about the Jack Johnson piece and how Dick Gregory motivated him to write "Dreamer", yet he discounts voting knowing how much African Americans struggeld and fought to get the right to vote.....

If you want contstructive criticism Prince, there it is!!!!!
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Reply #272 posted 04/27/09 9:36pm

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pricy503 said:

Dig if U will the picture of me and Marvin Gaye and the kids.


falloff
chill..prince doesnt like men being front row, makes it hard to sing the ballads
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Reply #273 posted 04/27/09 9:39pm

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Just watched and recorded the interview Part 1. I didn't know he was really epileptic as "The Sacrifice Of Victor" songs lyrics had said. Or that his father really told him to "never get married" as in the Purple Rain movie. Wow.
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Reply #274 posted 04/27/09 9:41pm

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Se7en said:

jone70 said:

WTF is he talking about 8 presidents before George Washington? I cringe when he starts the religion babble, it makes him sound really, really stupid.


Actually, I just looked this up and it's true. One of the first political/historical things that Prince has taught me!

The 8 presidents before Washington were before the Constitution was in place.


I didn't know that!
Goodnight, sweet Prince.
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Reply #275 posted 04/27/09 9:42pm

NuPwrSoul

Wasn't a very interesting interview.

Tavis talked at least if not more than half the time--sign of a bad interview--and spent most of the time telling Prince how much of a genius he was.

Good to see that Prince was humble... said he welcomes constructive criticism, and was very human in his discussion of love & meanness.

The discussion of religion & politics, on the other hand, was one of his less impressive interviews. 8 presidents before G. Washington: debatable considering that the country as it is now did not exist technically until the Constitution was ratified in 1789 shortly before G. Washington became President. The Dick Gregory / chem trails conspiracy to explain the fighting & violence in the neighborhoods? Just sad.
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Reply #276 posted 04/27/09 9:44pm

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Taurus said:

Great interview so far. I've never heard about him speaking about his father this much.


I will admit it's hard to hear him talking about the Jack Johnson piece and how Dick Gregory motivated him to write "Dreamer", yet he discounts voting knowing how much African Americans struggeld and fought to get the right to vote.....

If you want contstructive criticism Prince, there it is!!!!!



agreed... I understand to a degree about church/state ...on the other hand one has to be active in making sure government is moving in good direction.These were the same questions not answered from my grandmother.She would just say
Jehovah will see over all things it's not for us to get involved in worldly things war-money-power.
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Reply #277 posted 04/27/09 9:46pm

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Prince needs to stick to music and forget the preaching. As soon as he starts talking Jehovah he sounds like a brainwashed robot who is just repeating what he's read/been told without actually thinking about what he's saying. But then that's the problem with religion, isn't it? It's not based on actual thought - just blind faith. ill

rudeboynpg said:

Se7en said:



Actually, I just looked this up and it's true. One of the first political/historical things that Prince has taught me!

The 8 presidents before Washington were before the Constitution was in place.


I didn't know that!


Because it's not true! There couldn't have been 8 US Presidents before GW because the US did not exist.
The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
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Reply #278 posted 04/27/09 9:50pm

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Prince says protectively to Tavis...." Where did you get the Lyrics ?"


lol Tavis proceeds not to read anything. Tavis should have just said from your site lol
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Reply #279 posted 04/27/09 9:50pm

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NuPwrSoul said:

Wasn't a very interesting interview.

Tavis talked at least if not more than half the time--sign of a bad interview--and spent most of the time telling Prince how much of a genius he was.

Good to see that Prince was humble... said he welcomes constructive criticism, and was very human in his discussion of love & meanness.


Do you actually believe that? I don't believe it for a minute. I think Prince does what Prince wants regardless of constructive criticism.

The discussion of religion & politics, on the other hand, was one of his less impressive interviews. 8 presidents before G. Washington: debatable considering that the country as it is now did not exist technically until the Constitution was ratified in 1789 shortly before G. Washington became President. The Dick Gregory / chem trails conspiracy to explain the fighting & violence in the neighborhoods? Just sad.


Agree. I kept waiting for him to make a more direct connection b/t Gregory, Dreamer, and violence in neighborhoods. I also had to wonder if Prince saw the irony in his urging people to watch Gregory's speech on the internet or other places when he's such a dick about people watching his performances on the 'net.

Hypocrisy, thy name is Prince! lol



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The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
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Reply #280 posted 04/27/09 9:52pm

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utopia7 said:

Prince says protectively to Tavis...." Where did you get the Lyrics ?"


lol Tavis proceeds not to read anything. Tavis should have just said from your site lol



Yeah, I noticed that too. If he would have said from lotusflower Prince probably would have asked how because you can't download them. Tavis should have said prince.org! The look on Prince's face would have been priceless! lol
The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
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Reply #281 posted 04/27/09 9:53pm

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the human condition isn't a disease you can cure with a philosophy, or a sickness you can explain away by watching the skies. the history of humanity is largely comprised of murder. nobody was dropping chemicals on the romans.
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Reply #282 posted 04/27/09 9:53pm

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jone70 said:

Prince needs to stick to music and forget the preaching. As soon as he starts talking Jehovah he sounds like a brainwashed robot who is just repeating what he's read/been told without actually thinking about what he's saying. But then that's the problem with religion, isn't it? It's not based on actual thought - just blind faith. ill

rudeboynpg said:



I didn't know that!


Because it's not true! There couldn't have been 8 US Presidents before GW because the US did not exist.


That's actually debatable.....
It really depnds on if you believe the Federal Republic and the Continental Congress were that different.
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Reply #283 posted 04/27/09 9:55pm

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jone70 said:

utopia7 said:

Prince says protectively to Tavis...." Where did you get the Lyrics ?"


lol Tavis proceeds not to read anything. Tavis should have just said from your site lol



Yeah, I noticed that too. If he would have said from lotusflower Prince probably would have asked how because you can't download them. Tavis should have said prince.org! The look on Prince's face would have been priceless! lol




yep ...and then made light of it by telling his lyrics story
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Reply #284 posted 04/27/09 9:56pm

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Taurus said:

jone70 said:

Prince needs to stick to music and forget the preaching. As soon as he starts talking Jehovah he sounds like a brainwashed robot who is just repeating what he's read/been told without actually thinking about what he's saying. But then that's the problem with religion, isn't it? It's not based on actual thought - just blind faith. ill



Because it's not true! There couldn't have been 8 US Presidents before GW because the US did not exist.


That's actually debatable.....
It really depnds on if you believe the Federal Republic and the Continental Congress were that different.


it's not debatable if you read the documents of the era, which still exist and are easy to obtain in handy, numbered volumes.

the federalist/anti-federalist papers and the minutes of the entire constitutional convention are in print.
[Edited 4/27/09 21:57pm]
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Reply #285 posted 04/27/09 9:57pm

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stanleylieber said:

Taurus said:



That's actually debatable.....
It really depnds on if you believe the Federal Republic and the Continental Congress were that different.


it's not debatable if you read the documents of the era, which still exist and are easy to obtain in handy, numbered volumes.

the federalist/anti-federalist papers and the minutes of the entire constitutional convention are in print.


and i will pay prince (another) $77 if he's come within ten feet of either of them.
it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die
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Reply #286 posted 04/27/09 9:58pm

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Taurus said:

jone70 said:

Prince needs to stick to music and forget the preaching. As soon as he starts talking Jehovah he sounds like a brainwashed robot who is just repeating what he's read/been told without actually thinking about what he's saying. But then that's the problem with religion, isn't it? It's not based on actual thought - just blind faith. ill



Because it's not true! There couldn't have been 8 US Presidents before GW because the US did not exist.


That's actually debatable.....
It really depnds on if you believe the Federal Republic and the Continental Congress were that different.


Not really. It's not that difficult to understand that if the USA was not yet in existance, then there couldn't possibly be a President of the USA.


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The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
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Reply #287 posted 04/27/09 9:58pm

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pricy503 said:

Dig if U will the picture of me and Marvin Gaye and the kids.


falloff I literally LOLed when Prince said that. lol
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #288 posted 04/27/09 9:59pm

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jone70 said:

Prince needs to stick to music and forget the preaching. As soon as he starts talking Jehovah he sounds like a brainwashed robot who is just repeating what he's read/been told without actually thinking about what he's saying. But then that's the problem with religion, isn't it? It's not based on actual thought - just blind faith. ill


I agree with you on religion.

rudeboynpg said:

I didn't know that!


Because it's not true! There couldn't have been 8 US Presidents before GW because the US did not exist.


http://www.freerepublic.c...2763/posts
Goodnight, sweet Prince.
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Reply #289 posted 04/27/09 10:05pm

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I really hope tomorrow's show focuses on music... while Prince is a smart individual his round table discussions should be left in his home
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Reply #290 posted 04/27/09 10:07pm

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rudeboynpg said:

jone70 said:

Prince needs to stick to music and forget the preaching. As soon as he starts talking Jehovah he sounds like a brainwashed robot who is just repeating what he's read/been told without actually thinking about what he's saying. But then that's the problem with religion, isn't it? It's not based on actual thought - just blind faith. ill


I agree with you on religion.



Because it's not true! There couldn't have been 8 US Presidents before GW because the US did not exist.


http://www.freerepublic.c...2763/posts


heh, why don't we examine more of freerepublic.com's material...
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Reply #291 posted 04/27/09 10:08pm

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psychodelicide said:

pricy503 said:

Dig if U will the picture of me and Marvin Gaye and the kids.


falloff I literally LOLed when Prince said that. lol

glad you got to see the interview Psych! How d'ya think he looked?
I know it's no Graffiti Bridge look or anything giggle but not
bad for 50 huh? mr.green
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Reply #292 posted 04/27/09 10:08pm

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I enjoyed the interview and agree with the declining morality in America. We were founded on Christianity and yet the foundation in this country is crumbling!

I also learned something new about Prince...the epilepsy.... and I learned about the previous leaders- "presidents"....how cool is that!

I guess I am saying, "I can't complain...thank-you Prince!"
Wake up!......Wake up!
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Reply #293 posted 04/27/09 10:11pm

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I don't believe I stayed up only to find Tracy Ullman on now and that my PBS station is airing Prince tomorrow and Thursday, not now. pout
Kinda strange, kinda awesome.
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Reply #294 posted 04/27/09 10:19pm

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utopia7 said:

I really hope tomorrow's show focuses on music... while Prince is a smart individual his round table discussions should be left in his home


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"That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32
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Reply #295 posted 04/27/09 10:22pm

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Here we go! I see so, some of you just wait to criticize every word or comment that comes out of Prince's mouth (as if any of your words could stand the same dissection)

Come on! "just sing and dance for me Prince" - because you know you only exist for our entertainment and then off you go! He is being human (flaws and all), with a wide range of experiences that cannot be encapsulated in one interview in a blue moon.

So should we really be riding on every word and offended or surprised when he expresses view points that we don't share.

Where's the tolerance, it is 2009 ya know!
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Reply #296 posted 04/27/09 10:25pm

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utopia7 said:

Taurus said:

Great interview so far. I've never heard about him speaking about his father this much.


I will admit it's hard to hear him talking about the Jack Johnson piece and how Dick Gregory motivated him to write "Dreamer", yet he discounts voting knowing how much African Americans struggeld and fought to get the right to vote.....

If you want contstructive criticism Prince, there it is!!!!!



agreed... I understand to a degree about church/state ...on the other hand one has to be active in making sure government is moving in good direction.These were the same questions not answered from my grandmother.She would just say
Jehovah will see over all things it's not for us to get involved in worldly things war-money-power.


Exactly... odd that "The Dreamer" references Dr. King, who used the moral force of his faith to *engage* the government, promote legislation, and seek to transform society greater than his own religious community. Unlike Prince, Dr. King recognized that he did indeed "have a dog in this race" (something Prince said he didn't in the interview when discussing President Obama).
"That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32
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Reply #297 posted 04/27/09 10:25pm

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fenderbender said:

Here we go! I see so, some of you just wait to criticize every word or comment that comes out of Prince's mouth (as if any of your words could stand the same dissection)

Come on! "just sing and dance for me Prince" - because you know you only exist for our entertainment and then off you go! He is being human (flaws and all), with a wide range of experiences that cannot be encapsulated in one interview in a blue moon.

So should we really be riding on every word and offended or surprised when he expresses view points that we don't share.

Where's the tolerance, it is 2009 ya know!


your argument is "tolerance"? biggrin

practice what you preach.
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Reply #298 posted 04/27/09 10:28pm

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Come on! "just sing and dance for me Prince" - because you know you only exist for our entertainment and then off you go!


Quite the contrary--if all I was interested in was Prince singing and dancing, then I would not have bothered to watch an interview with him where he was not scheduled to sing and dance.

The fact of the matter is, I am very interested in what Prince has to say... I am very interested in the human being behind the song and dance, and that's why I watched the interview. That's why I listened to his words. And that's why I'm responding/reacting to his words.
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Reply #299 posted 04/27/09 10:32pm

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NuPwrSoul said:

utopia7 said:




agreed... I understand to a degree about church/state ...on the other hand one has to be active in making sure government is moving in good direction.These were the same questions not answered from my grandmother.She would just say
Jehovah will see over all things it's not for us to get involved in worldly things war-money-power.


Exactly... odd that "The Dreamer" references Dr. King, who used the moral force of his faith to *engage* the government, promote legislation, and seek to transform society greater than his own religious community. Unlike Prince, Dr. King recognized that he did indeed "have a dog in this race" (something Prince said he didn't in the interview when discussing President Obama).



There it is ! Dr.King could easily crawled in a religious hole with his congregation.He chose to get involved.While Prince has the right to what he chooses it negates his stand on many stands he takes.
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