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Grab all they can Everything counts in large amounts actually prince should listen to that whole album about four hundred times. it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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sassybritches said: wow...
sure it's pricey but, c'mon...its still only $2100. asking for production credits and mentor sessions and interview rights...geez, for a measley $2100.  i'm honestly not seeing the craziness in all of this. first of all, its something that has a connection to sotheby's and they don't deal in anything but high end. second of all, if you can't afford it don't worry about buying it. what's the problem?
do y'all throw a temper tantrum every time you see something you can't afford? We're in the middle of an economic shitstorm, and a rich man is asking for $2000 for some tacky thing not even close to worth that much, with footage he should be giving to the people who paid the $77 for lotusflow3r. To put this into perspective, I only make 5 times the cost of this Opus thing in a year Not only that, but Little Miss Animal Kingdom has the damn thing made with silk and alligator skin. This is some kind of bullshit, and people have every right to be pissed. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: sassybritches said: wow...
sure it's pricey but, c'mon...its still only $2100. asking for production credits and mentor sessions and interview rights...geez, for a measley $2100. i'm honestly not seeing the craziness in all of this. first of all, its something that has a connection to sotheby's and they don't deal in anything but high end. second of all, if you can't afford it don't worry about buying it. what's the problem?
do y'all throw a temper tantrum every time you see something you can't afford? We're in the middle of an economic shitstorm, and a rich man is asking for $2000 for some tacky thing not even close to worth that much, with footage he should be giving to the people who paid the $77 for lotusflow3r. To put this into perspective, I only make 5 times the cost of this Opus thing in a year Not only that, but Little Miss Animal Kingdom has the damn thing made with silk and alligator skin. This is some kind of bullshit, and people have every right to be pissed. Again it is only the first edition book that will be auctioned in Sotheby's that has the alligator skin. It will probably go for crazy $$$$ as there will be a frenzy to own it. | |
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BlackAdder7 said: Anxiety said: here's my deal.
prince, i can't afford this. but i'll tell you what i'm gonna do. i'll wash your dishes for you for a year if you send it to me for free. just dirty up all your dishes, throw them in a fed ex crate, deliver them to me, and i'll wash them up and fed ex them back to you. i think this is a fair offer, so you're welcome.  I don't see anything on the website that says this is a Prince approved product...does it? it's in the newly created news section of lotusflow3r.com - it's official. | |
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meow85 said: sassybritches said: wow...
sure it's pricey but, c'mon...its still only $2100. asking for production credits and mentor sessions and interview rights...geez, for a measley $2100. i'm honestly not seeing the craziness in all of this. first of all, its something that has a connection to sotheby's and they don't deal in anything but high end. second of all, if you can't afford it don't worry about buying it. what's the problem?
do y'all throw a temper tantrum every time you see something you can't afford? We're in the middle of an economic shitstorm, and a rich man is asking for $2000 for some tacky thing not even close to worth that much, with footage he should be giving to the people who paid the $77 for lotusflow3r. To put this into perspective, I only make 5 times the cost of this Opus thing in a year Not only that, but Little Miss Animal Kingdom has the damn thing made with silk and alligator skin. This is some kind of bullshit, and people have every right to be pissed. How do you figure? No one's being forced to buy anything. Buy it or don't - according to your desire and financial condition. You don't like diamonds and alligator covers (and everything they stand for)? Fine - don't bid on that version. You think $2100 is too much to pay for what is, essentially, an iPod and a lottery ticket? Fine - don't buy it. You'd think the man was punting puppies and picking pockets. Some of y'all need to get a sense of proportion already. If this is the kind of thing that gets you in a lather, your lives must be damn cushy otherwise.  We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: japanrocks said: actually there are some fans that can afford it
i will not mention any names but u have seen them at the shows before they travel from far away places to see the guy this, in some ways, is actually a nice gift for them 2,000 is nothing to them it will sell A gift, eh? A gift would be if he gave it to them, you know, as a show of appreciation for them traveling from far away places just to see the guy.
In no way is that actually a nice gift for them. What it is, is just more of this 
plain and simple. Do you know how many animals got kill to make the computer your typing right now? The fur industry is not the only one killing animals, your one of them too, this is the way the world works. So grow up! "I have so much love for Prince. But why don't they look at me that way"- MJ | |
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pplrain said: meow85 said: We're in the middle of an economic shitstorm, and a rich man is asking for $2000 for some tacky thing not even close to worth that much, with footage he should be giving to the people who paid the $77 for lotusflow3r. To put this into perspective, I only make 5 times the cost of this Opus thing in a year Not only that, but Little Miss Animal Kingdom has the damn thing made with silk and alligator skin. This is some kind of bullshit, and people have every right to be pissed. Again it is only the first edition book that will be auctioned in Sotheby's that has the alligator skin. It will probably go for crazy $$$$ as there will be a frenzy to own it. I'm not vegeterian and I do wear leather items, but someone serious about animal rigths would not even have "just" one print made with those materials. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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Genesia said: meow85 said: We're in the middle of an economic shitstorm, and a rich man is asking for $2000 for some tacky thing not even close to worth that much, with footage he should be giving to the people who paid the $77 for lotusflow3r. To put this into perspective, I only make 5 times the cost of this Opus thing in a year Not only that, but Little Miss Animal Kingdom has the damn thing made with silk and alligator skin. This is some kind of bullshit, and people have every right to be pissed. How do you figure? No one's being forced to buy anything. Buy it or don't - according to your desire and financial condition. You don't like diamonds and alligator covers (and everything they stand for)? Fine - don't bid on that version. You think $2100 is too much to pay for what is, essentially, an iPod and a lottery ticket? Fine - don't buy it. You'd think the man was punting puppies and picking pockets. Some of y'all need to get a sense of proportion already. If this is the kind of thing that gets you in a lather, your lives must be damn cushy otherwise. I can't believe you're actually defending Prince's hypocrisy and greed. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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pplrain said: meow85 said: We're in the middle of an economic shitstorm, and a rich man is asking for $2000 for some tacky thing not even close to worth that much, with footage he should be giving to the people who paid the $77 for lotusflow3r. To put this into perspective, I only make 5 times the cost of this Opus thing in a year Not only that, but Little Miss Animal Kingdom has the damn thing made with silk and alligator skin. This is some kind of bullshit, and people have every right to be pissed. Again it is only the first edition book that will be auctioned in Sotheby's that has the alligator skin. It will probably go for crazy $$$$ as there will be a frenzy to own it. A frenzy? No! There are a select few who can afford what the asking price is going to be and more power to them. I ain't even hating on them because I'm on my grind every day trying to get there but his wealthiest fans in totality, don't make up a frenzy! I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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meow85 said: Genesia said: How do you figure? No one's being forced to buy anything. Buy it or don't - according to your desire and financial condition. You don't like diamonds and alligator covers (and everything they stand for)? Fine - don't bid on that version. You think $2100 is too much to pay for what is, essentially, an iPod and a lottery ticket? Fine - don't buy it. You'd think the man was punting puppies and picking pockets. Some of y'all need to get a sense of proportion already. If this is the kind of thing that gets you in a lather, your lives must be damn cushy otherwise. I can't believe you're actually defending Prince's hypocrisy and greed. I'm defending his right to do what he wants as a human being with free will. But now that I think about it - I should also defend your right to whine about it. Carry on. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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meow85 said: I'm not vegeterian and I do wear leather items, but someone serious about animal rigths would not even have "just" one print made with those materials.
The alligator skin is another sign and new direction. Next year he will be dressing like Rob Halford, toting a gun and he will rerecord "Animal Kingdom" with Trent Reznor, lots of gun shooting in the mix as a homage to animal hunting. Larry G. will be replaced by Ted Nugent. | |
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metallicjigolo said: WHAt a BUNCH OF BIG FU_KING WHINY BABIES!!!
BOO HOO. Lil Prince done upset everybody again. AWWW For all the people Judging Prince, the Proceeds from this project could be going for relief for those affected by the earthquake in italy, or to a friend of his in need, or maybe a stranger that just lost their family or home. This is a Sad Sad day for a so called Prince "FAN SITE" they call the org. Take a good long look in the mirror before Judging anyone. Grow UP people! practice what you preach it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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realm said: meow85 said: I'm not vegeterian and I do wear leather items, but someone serious about animal rigths would not even have "just" one print made with those materials.
The alligator skin is another sign and new direction. Next year he will be dressing like Rob Halford, toting a gun and he will rerecord "Animal Kingdom" with Trent Reznor, lots of gun shooting in the mix as a homage to animal hunting. Larry G. will be replaced by Ted Nugent. LOL sad but true... and the funny part is he has every right to do it. [Edited 4/11/09 14:15pm] | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: sassybritches said: wow...
sure it's pricey but, c'mon...its still only $2100. asking for production credits and mentor sessions and interview rights...geez, for a measley $2100. i'm honestly not seeing the craziness in all of this. first of all, its something that has a connection to sotheby's and they don't deal in anything but high end. second of all, if you can't afford it don't worry about buying it. what's the problem?
do y'all throw a temper tantrum every time you see something you can't afford? Only? kick it down daddy warbucks i didn't mean only as in "wow, that's a bargain basement price!" i just meant that its certainly not expensive enough to be asking for mentoring sessions from a pop star as well as production credits, etc.An individualist is a man who lives for his own sake and by his own mind; he neither sacrifices himself to others nor sacrifices others to himself... | |
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Genesia said: meow85 said: I can't believe you're actually defending Prince's hypocrisy and greed. I'm defending his right to do what he wants as a human being with free will. But now that I think about it - I should also defend your right to whine about it. Carry on. Figures you'd see no problem with this.  "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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Genesia said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: IF he changed his mind then he should stop fucking lying to innocent fams! How has he lied? I don't recall him saying anything recently with respect to being (or not being) a vegetarian or animal rights activist. If people assume, that's on them. He is under no obligation to meet anyone's expectations. [Edited 4/11/09 13:50pm] come ON. you HAVE to know better than this. he has spoken for over a decade in interviews about being completely vegan. and according to him he hasn't eaten red meat since 1988. it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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pplrain said: meow85 said: We're in the middle of an economic shitstorm, and a rich man is asking for $2000 for some tacky thing not even close to worth that much, with footage he should be giving to the people who paid the $77 for lotusflow3r. To put this into perspective, I only make 5 times the cost of this Opus thing in a year Not only that, but Little Miss Animal Kingdom has the damn thing made with silk and alligator skin. This is some kind of bullshit, and people have every right to be pissed. Again it is only the first edition book that will be auctioned in Sotheby's that has the alligator skin. It will probably go for crazy $$$$ as there will be a frenzy to own it. the others are leatherbound. it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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meow85 said: sassybritches said: wow...
sure it's pricey but, c'mon...its still only $2100. asking for production credits and mentor sessions and interview rights...geez, for a measley $2100. i'm honestly not seeing the craziness in all of this. first of all, its something that has a connection to sotheby's and they don't deal in anything but high end. second of all, if you can't afford it don't worry about buying it. what's the problem?
do y'all throw a temper tantrum every time you see something you can't afford? We're in the middle of an economic shitstorm, and a rich man is asking for $2000 for some tacky thing not even close to worth that much, with footage he should be giving to the people who paid the $77 for lotusflow3r. To put this into perspective, I only make 5 times the cost of this Opus thing in a year Not only that, but Little Miss Animal Kingdom has the damn thing made with silk and alligator skin. This is some kind of bullshit, and people have every right to be pissed. the rich man has every right to ask whatever price he seeks. the consumer has every right to let the item sit and gather dust. what's the problem? sounds like you caught a nasty case of that entitlement syndrome that's been going around. so..."he should be" giving something to people who voluntarily joined his website? and why, might i ask, should he be doing anything? he has a history of jerking people around through his fan clubs (which is why he didn't get my 77 bucks for his shady web ideas) and even still, the perks of the club were laid out and you joined. nowhere did it say, and correct me if i'm wrong, that club members will be the only people privy to exclusive material. money talks, my friend. as for your salary...that is neither prince's problem nor anyone else's. you're suggesting prince is selfish or greedy or whatever because he's rich and wants people to pay for a product. well, what would that make you? you somehow think you're entitled to cheaper goods simply because...you want them. hmmm...sounds a little greedy, selfish, or whatever to me. if you want to make more so that you can buy more, learn a more highly sought after trade which can bring in more money. that's what prince did. and now he's charging 2100 for a silly book. a silly book that has a lot of silly people losing their silly minds.  [Edited 4/11/09 14:23pm] An individualist is a man who lives for his own sake and by his own mind; he neither sacrifices himself to others nor sacrifices others to himself... | |
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Prince could shit in a box and fedex it to people for a fee and someone would purchase it. Gene Simmons already done this. | |
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pplrain said: realm said: The alligator skin is another sign and new direction. Next year he will be dressing like Rob Halford, toting a gun and he will rerecord "Animal Kingdom" with Trent Reznor, lots of gun shooting in the mix as a homage to animal hunting. Larry G. will be replaced by Ted Nugent. LOL sad but true... and the funny part is he has every right to do it. [Edited 4/11/09 14:15pm] of course he does. but people are also perfectly in bounds pointing out his hypocrisy. you post on this board, you see how people try to adopt prince's stated ethical positions and use those mores against other folks who post here. now prince is contradicting positions that people on this board have used to start shit with other people on this board. so i'm guessing that all those folks from the late '90s who were told they weren't true prince fans because they weren't vegan are now free and in the clear. 
i'm still not convinced these books aren't made with synthetic materials, but they just as easily could be. you know prince will never clarify his level of awareness of the details. we'll be speculating about this forever. it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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sassybritches said: meow85 said: We're in the middle of an economic shitstorm, and a rich man is asking for $2000 for some tacky thing not even close to worth that much, with footage he should be giving to the people who paid the $77 for lotusflow3r. To put this into perspective, I only make 5 times the cost of this Opus thing in a year Not only that, but Little Miss Animal Kingdom has the damn thing made with silk and alligator skin. This is some kind of bullshit, and people have every right to be pissed. the rich man has every right to ask whatever price he seeks. the consumer has every right to let the item sit and gather dust. what's the problem? sounds like you caught a nasty case of that entitlement syndrome that's been going around. so..."he should be" giving something to people who voluntarily joined his website? and why, might i ask, should he be doing anything? he has a history of jerking people around through his fan clubs (which is why he didn't get my 77 bucks for his shady web ideas) and even still, the perks of the club were laid out and you joined. nowhere did it say, and correct me if i'm wrong, that club members will be the only people privy to exclusive material. money talks, my friend. as for your salary...that is neither prince's problem nor anyone else's. you're suggesting prince is selfish or greedy or whatever because he's rich and wants people to pay for a product. well, what would that make you? you somehow think you're entitled to cheaper goods simply because...you want them. hmmm...sounds a little greedy, selfish, or whatever to me. if you want to make more so that you can buy more, learn a more highly sought after trade which can bring in more money. that's what prince did. and now he's charging 2100 for a silly book. a silly book that has a lot of silly people losing their silly minds.
[Edited 4/11/09 14:23pm] That's why Howard Stern never sold any t-shirt, cups, hats..etc. Greed sets in and you can make a shit load of money selling stupid shit. But is it worth having your fan base think of you as a complete sellout???? | |
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sassybritches said: meow85 said: We're in the middle of an economic shitstorm, and a rich man is asking for $2000 for some tacky thing not even close to worth that much, with footage he should be giving to the people who paid the $77 for lotusflow3r. To put this into perspective, I only make 5 times the cost of this Opus thing in a year Not only that, but Little Miss Animal Kingdom has the damn thing made with silk and alligator skin. This is some kind of bullshit, and people have every right to be pissed. the rich man has every right to ask whatever price he seeks. the consumer has every right to let the item sit and gather dust. what's the problem? sounds like you caught a nasty case of that entitlement syndrome that's been going around. so..."he should be" giving something to people who voluntarily joined his website? and why, might i ask, should he be doing anything? he has a history of jerking people around through his fan clubs (which is why he didn't get my 77 bucks for his shady web ideas) and even still, the perks of the club were laid out and you joined. nowhere did it say, and correct me if i'm wrong, that club members will be the only people privy to exclusive material. money talks, my friend. as for your salary...that is neither prince's problem nor anyone else's. you're suggesting prince is selfish or greedy or whatever because he's rich and wants people to pay for a product. well, what would that make you? you somehow think you're entitled to cheaper goods simply because...you want them. hmmm...sounds a little greedy, selfish, or whatever to me. if you want to make more so that you can buy more, learn a more highly sought after trade which can bring in more money. that's what prince did. and now he's charging 2100 for a silly book. a silly book that has a lot of silly people losing their silly minds.
[Edited 4/11/09 14:23pm] i don't think anyone is talking about forcibly stopping him from doing this. of course he has the right. but i think it's reasonable for people who have been invited to buy into his own personal web of morals to express outrage when he seems to be disregarding this set of rules that he previously promoted as being very, very important. prince invites us to feel superior to others because we live 'correctly' according to his views on the animal kingdom. and now he's selling a book made of animal parts. it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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it would be like if ayn rand went on welfare. it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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veronikka said: $2100!!!
I really want that IPOD  they have a finance plan....i want it too | |
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sassybritches said: nowhere did it say, and correct me if i'm wrong, that club members will be the only people privy to exclusive material. money talks, my friend.
Actually, the enticement emails and postings on Dr. Fuckingberry's website did state just that! I didn't fall for it either because experience is one hell of a teacher but I'm just saying so the record is clear!  [Edited 4/11/09 14:42pm] I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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If I put down $2,100 for that, I better be getting a new car with it. I don't need this iPod or whatever else is involved that badly. Nope. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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stanleylieber said: sassybritches said: the rich man has every right to ask whatever price he seeks. the consumer has every right to let the item sit and gather dust. what's the problem? sounds like you caught a nasty case of that entitlement syndrome that's been going around. so..."he should be" giving something to people who voluntarily joined his website? and why, might i ask, should he be doing anything? he has a history of jerking people around through his fan clubs (which is why he didn't get my 77 bucks for his shady web ideas) and even still, the perks of the club were laid out and you joined. nowhere did it say, and correct me if i'm wrong, that club members will be the only people privy to exclusive material. money talks, my friend. as for your salary...that is neither prince's problem nor anyone else's. you're suggesting prince is selfish or greedy or whatever because he's rich and wants people to pay for a product. well, what would that make you? you somehow think you're entitled to cheaper goods simply because...you want them. hmmm...sounds a little greedy, selfish, or whatever to me. if you want to make more so that you can buy more, learn a more highly sought after trade which can bring in more money. that's what prince did. and now he's charging 2100 for a silly book. a silly book that has a lot of silly people losing their silly minds.
[Edited 4/11/09 14:23pm] i don't think anyone is talking about forcibly stopping him from doing this. of course he has the right. but i think it's reasonable for people who have been invited to buy into his own personal web of morals to express outrage when he seems to be disregarding this set of rules that he previously promoted as being very, very important. prince invites us to feel superior to others because we live 'correctly' according to his views on the animal kingdom. and now he's selling a book made of animal parts. well, shame on you (or anyone else) who "buys into" any other person's morals and extra shame on you (or anyone else) for feeling "superior" to others because you "buy into" someone else's views and morals. build, and live by, your own personally designed morals and values. then you don't have to worry about being let down or disappointed in others. . [Edited 4/11/09 15:05pm] An individualist is a man who lives for his own sake and by his own mind; he neither sacrifices himself to others nor sacrifices others to himself... | |
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: sassybritches said: nowhere did it say, and correct me if i'm wrong, that club members will be the only people privy to exclusive material. money talks, my friend.
Actually, the enticement emails and postings on Dr. Fuckingberry's website did state just that! I didn't fall for it either because experience is one hell of a teacher but I'm just saying so the record is clear!
[Edited 4/11/09 14:42pm] did they really? did it explicitly state: "only club members will get the opportunity to see, purchase, or enjoy all exclusive material"? the phrase "only club members" and the word "all" are important because there's a difference between saying "club members will gain access to exclusive material not found anywhere else" and "ONLY club members will gain access to ALL exclusive material not found anywhere else." as a club member you are promised access to exclusive material. no doubt, the club will provide its members with exclusive material both to purchase and to enjoy for free. BUT that does not mean non-club members will not have access to OTHER exclusive material. and by offering this exclusive material to non-club members, no breach in contract occurs. An individualist is a man who lives for his own sake and by his own mind; he neither sacrifices himself to others nor sacrifices others to himself... | |
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sassybritches said: stanleylieber said: i don't think anyone is talking about forcibly stopping him from doing this. of course he has the right. but i think it's reasonable for people who have been invited to buy into his own personal web of morals to express outrage when he seems to be disregarding this set of rules that he previously promoted as being very, very important. prince invites us to feel superior to others because we live 'correctly' according to his views on the animal kingdom. and now he's selling a book made of animal parts. well, shame on you (or anyone else) who "buys into" any other person's morals and extra shame on you (or anyone else) for feeling "superior" to others because you "buy into" someone else's views and morals. build, and live by, your own personally designed morals and values. then you don't have to worry about being let down or disappointed in others. . [Edited 4/11/09 15:05pm] tee hee it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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i instruct thee to be an individualist! it's time for a new direction / it's time for jazz to die | |
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