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Thread started 04/08/09 6:37am

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Prince is NOT i repeat NOT #1.

Sorry to break the news to all of you, but Prince didn't debut at #1. He came in at #2. Here's the ACTUAL Soundscan chart.

____ ____ ____ _____ _____ _____ _____
1 * URBAN*KEITH DEFYING GRAVITY 171,525 22 779559% 171,547
2 * PRINCE LOTUS FLOW3R 168,420 38 443111% 168,458
3 * KRALL*DIANA QUIET NIGHTS 104,023 351 29536% 104,374
4 VARIOUS NOW 30 87,494 145,976 -40% 233,505
5 HANNAH MONTANA HANNAH MOVIE SNDTRK 86,501 138,700 -38% 225,281
6 * UGK UGK 4 LIFE 76,419 181 42120% 76,600
7 TWILIGHT SOUNDTRACK 73,492 102,012 -28% 1,720,313
8 * FLO RIDA R.O.O.T.S. (ROOT OF OVERCOMING 55,285 71 77766% 55,356
9 * LADY GAGA FAME 51,139 45,279 13% 602,694
10 SWIFT*TAYLOR FEARLESS 41,557 39,532 5% 2,977,444
11 HILSON*KERI IN A PERFECT WORLD... 37,030 94,078 -61% 131,527
12 U2 NO LINE ON THE HORIZON 35,989 51,179 -30% 780,478
13 * BOTTI*CHRIS CHRIS BOTTI LIVE IN BOSTON 35,746 369 9587% 36,116
14 CLARKSON*KELLY ALL I EVER WANTED 33,897 51,608 -34% 431,129
15 * ATKINS*RODNEY IT'S AMERICA 33,643 7 480514% 33,699
16 * BOW WOW NEW JACK CITY PT II 30,851 93 33073% 30,944
17 NICKELBACK DARK HORSE 29,074 30,156 -4% 1,770,067
18 THE-DREAM LOVE VS. MONEY 28,548 35,967 -21% 271,491
19 * DEGRAW*GAVIN FREE 26,194 20 130870% 26,214
20 * COOK*DAVID DAVID COOK 24,769 7,300 239% 1,067,673
21 BEYONCE I AM...SASHA FIERCE 22,820 22,798 0% 2,049,519
22 * YEAH YEAH YEAHS IT'S BLITZ! 21,763 3,495 523% 42,941
23 FOXX*JAMIE INTUITION 21,359 21,753 -2% 808,181
24 T.I. PAPER TRAIL 21,250 20,067 6% 1,858,062
25 * QUEENSRYCHE AMERICAN SOLDIER 20,993 45 46551% 21,038
26 * MCCLURKIN*DONNIE LIVE IN DETROIT 20,548 387 5210% 19,073
27 FRAY*THE FRAY 19,306 18,629 4% 451,488
28 KINGS OF LEON ONLY BY THE NIGHT 17,988 18,013 0% 565,430
29 BROWN*ZAC BAND FOUNDATION 17,759 16,361 9% 393,115
30 MRAZ*JASON WE SING WE DANCE WE STEAL THIN 17,133 19,045 -10% 1,081,739
31 ADELE 19 16,932 21,364 -21% 581,034
32 SLIM THUG BOSS OF ALL BOSSES 16,891 32,479 -48% 49,612
33 UNDERWOOD*CARRIE CARNIVAL RIDE 16,231 16,775 -3% 2,735,990
34 PAPA ROACH METAMORPHOSIS 15,984 44,449 -64% 60,582
35 RICH*JOHN SON OF A PREACHER MAN 15,331 30,878 -50% 46,210
36 MCBRIDE*MARTINA SHINE 15,090 41,457 -64% 56,565
37 * SWIFT*TAYLOR TAYLOR SWIFT 14,231 12,599 13% 4,049,276
38 * VARIOUS ARTISTS SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE (MUSIC FRO 13,900 10,907 27% 265,479
39 RUCKER*DARIUS LEARN TO LIVE 13,775 13,878 -1% 549,375
40 JONES*JIM PRAY IV REIGN 13,704 42,818 -68% 56,686
41 * DEATH CAB FOR CUTIE OPEN DOOR 13,590 0 #DIV/0! 13,590
42 * SILVERSTEIN SHIPWRECK IN THE SAND 13,465 76 17617% 13,541
43 SPEARS*BRITNEY CIRCUS 13,450 13,736 -2% 1,478,812
44 MASTODON CRACK THE SKYE 13,427 41,395 -68% 55,187
45 P!NK FUNHOUSE 13,272 13,602 -2% 976,809
46 VARIOUS NOW POWER BALLADS 13,068 17,346 -25% 30,417
47 * NICKS*STEVIE SOUNDSTAGE SESSIONS 13,052 76 17074% 13,130
48 THEORY OF A DEADMAN SCARS & SOUVENIRS 13,035 11,857 10% 423,710
49 BLUE OCTOBER APPROACHING NORM 12,089 37,160 -67% 49,356
50 SUGARLAND LOVE ON THE INSIDE 11,905 11,221 6% 1,489,481



And it doesn't make the album any less impressive.
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Reply #1 posted 04/08/09 6:40am

Aloisio

I guess many people will be quite disappointed. eek
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Reply #2 posted 04/08/09 6:40am

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Reply #3 posted 04/08/09 6:40am

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You actually liked the CD BP?
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #4 posted 04/08/09 6:41am

Close2u

he is number one with with me so these charts don't mean a damn thing cool
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Reply #5 posted 04/08/09 6:42am

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awww...
I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
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Reply #6 posted 04/08/09 6:44am

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purplecam said:

You actually liked the CD BP?



LOL I was going to wait for things to die down around here before i gave my review of the album, but I went in totally prepared to hate the album and was completely blown away.

THAT's the Prince i'd been waiting to hear for a LONG time.
I even give Lotusflow3r a nudge over my beloved Rainbow Children because the subject matter isn't so heavy.

I'll admit i haven't listened to Bria's disc yet because i didn't want to ruin the high i got from listening to the Prince discs.

YES, for now i'm carrying my P torch once again. lol
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Reply #7 posted 04/08/09 6:44am

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Damn. "why is Prince always #2 only..... now once again..."

Raspberry Beret, U Got The Look and even Purple Rain (the singles) only made it to #2 (If I remember right)!?

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[Edited 4/8/09 6:45am]
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Reply #8 posted 04/08/09 6:46am

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ButterscotchPimp said:

purplecam said:

You actually liked the CD BP?



LOL I was going to wait for things to die down around here before i gave my review of the album, but I went in totally prepared to hate the album and was completely blown away.

THAT's the Prince i'd been waiting to hear for a LONG time.
I even give Lotusflow3r a nudge over my beloved Rainbow Children because the subject matter isn't so heavy.

I'll admit i haven't listened to Bria's disc yet because i didn't want to ruin the high i got from listening to the Prince discs.

YES, for now i'm carrying my P torch once again. lol

Well HOT DOG that's a winner right there! highfive clapping lol Looking forward to your review when you are ready to drop it. biggrin
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Reply #9 posted 04/08/09 6:46am

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TRICKERY!!!

Oh well, it's still impressive for an album to debut at number 2 for an independent artist.

Does that mean he may have the number one r&b album?
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Reply #10 posted 04/08/09 6:48am

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thedance said:

Damn. "why is Prince always #2 only..... now once again..."

Raspberry Beret, U Got The Look and even Purple Rain (the singles) only made it to #2 (If I remember right)!?

mad wink
[Edited 4/8/09 6:45am]

You're right. This is just, man it sucks ass right now but he sold a lot. I just hope that Prince won't stop promoting this CD because of this. That's not impossible with him and that's what makes me worry. He needs to go on Oprah and get these sales to rise up. That will work for him if he does this.
[Edited 4/8/09 6:48am]
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Reply #11 posted 04/08/09 6:49am

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Again, (and i can't believe it's ME that has to do this) I feel the need to get ya'll to focus on a couple of things.

Firstly, the album is AMAZING. Debuting at #2 doesn't make the album any less impressive than it is.

Secondly, Prince limited himself by only releasing the album at Target. To be honest, if he hadn't done that who knows what the debut might have been? And the fact that he came in at #2 and it was only sold at one retailer, makes #2 actually MORE impressive in my book.


(this is a WEIRD day on the Org when i'm the positive one)
(maybe i should go back to bed)
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Reply #12 posted 04/08/09 6:50am

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purplecam said:

thedance said:

Damn. "why is Prince always #2 only..... now once again..."

Raspberry Beret, U Got The Look and even Purple Rain (the singles) only made it to #2 (If I remember right)!?

mad wink
[Edited 4/8/09 6:45am]

You're right. This is just, man it sucks ass right now but he sold a lot. I just hope that Prince won't stop promoting this CD because of this. That's not impossible with him and that's what makes me worry. He needs to go on Oprah and get these sales to rise up. That will work for him if he does this.
[Edited 4/8/09 6:48am]

I think he is only promoting in LA right now. So, that would mean he should do Ellen, Jimmy Kimmell, American Idol, Dancing With the Stars, and a few other LA based shows
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Reply #13 posted 04/08/09 6:51am

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ButterscotchPimp said:

Again, (and i can't believe it's ME that has to do this) I feel the need to get ya'll to focus on a couple of things.

Firstly, the album is AMAZING. Debuting at #2 doesn't make the album any less impressive than it is.

Secondly, Prince limited himself by only releasing the album at Target. To be honest, if he hadn't done that who knows what the debut might have been? And the fact that he came in at #2 and it was only sold at one retailer, makes #2 actually MORE impressive in my book.


(this is a WEIRD day on the Org when i'm the positive one)
(maybe i should go back to bed)

You are right. And no, it's not bad at all to be positive. It helps you live longer too wink lol
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Reply #14 posted 04/08/09 6:53am

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daPrettyman said:

purplecam said:


You're right. This is just, man it sucks ass right now but he sold a lot. I just hope that Prince won't stop promoting this CD because of this. That's not impossible with him and that's what makes me worry. He needs to go on Oprah and get these sales to rise up. That will work for him if he does this.
[Edited 4/8/09 6:48am]

I think he is only promoting in LA right now. So, that would mean he should do Ellen, Jimmy Kimmell, American Idol, Dancing With the Stars, and a few other LA based shows

Whatever it takes, he needs to go on to whatever show out there and perform or even do another interview alongside with Tavis's later this month. He needs to go out there and promote. But then again, this is Prince we're talking about here. sad
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Reply #15 posted 04/08/09 7:04am

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so explain to me why the other one is wrong and why these figures are correct?
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Reply #16 posted 04/08/09 7:12am

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ButterscotchPimp said:

Sorry to break the news to all of you, but Prince didn't debut at #1. He came in at #2. Here's the ACTUAL Soundscan chart.

____ ____ ____ _____ _____ _____ _____
1 * URBAN*KEITH DEFYING GRAVITY 171,525 22 779559% 171,547
2 * PRINCE LOTUS FLOW3R 168,420 38 443111% 168,458
3 * KRALL*DIANA QUIET NIGHTS 104,023 351 29536% 104,374
4 VARIOUS NOW 30 87,494 145,976 -40% 233,505
5 HANNAH MONTANA HANNAH MOVIE SNDTRK 86,501 138,700 -38% 225,281
6 * UGK UGK 4 LIFE 76,419 181 42120% 76,600
7 TWILIGHT SOUNDTRACK 73,492 102,012 -28% 1,720,313
8 * FLO RIDA R.O.O.T.S. (ROOT OF OVERCOMING 55,285 71 77766% 55,356
9 * LADY GAGA FAME 51,139 45,279 13% 602,694
10 SWIFT*TAYLOR FEARLESS 41,557 39,532 5% 2,977,444
11 HILSON*KERI IN A PERFECT WORLD... 37,030 94,078 -61% 131,527
12 U2 NO LINE ON THE HORIZON 35,989 51,179 -30% 780,478
13 * BOTTI*CHRIS CHRIS BOTTI LIVE IN BOSTON 35,746 369 9587% 36,116
14 CLARKSON*KELLY ALL I EVER WANTED 33,897 51,608 -34% 431,129
15 * ATKINS*RODNEY IT'S AMERICA 33,643 7 480514% 33,699
16 * BOW WOW NEW JACK CITY PT II 30,851 93 33073% 30,944
17 NICKELBACK DARK HORSE 29,074 30,156 -4% 1,770,067
18 THE-DREAM LOVE VS. MONEY 28,548 35,967 -21% 271,491
19 * DEGRAW*GAVIN FREE 26,194 20 130870% 26,214
20 * COOK*DAVID DAVID COOK 24,769 7,300 239% 1,067,673
21 BEYONCE I AM...SASHA FIERCE 22,820 22,798 0% 2,049,519
22 * YEAH YEAH YEAHS IT'S BLITZ! 21,763 3,495 523% 42,941
23 FOXX*JAMIE INTUITION 21,359 21,753 -2% 808,181
24 T.I. PAPER TRAIL 21,250 20,067 6% 1,858,062
25 * QUEENSRYCHE AMERICAN SOLDIER 20,993 45 46551% 21,038
26 * MCCLURKIN*DONNIE LIVE IN DETROIT 20,548 387 5210% 19,073
27 FRAY*THE FRAY 19,306 18,629 4% 451,488
28 KINGS OF LEON ONLY BY THE NIGHT 17,988 18,013 0% 565,430
29 BROWN*ZAC BAND FOUNDATION 17,759 16,361 9% 393,115
30 MRAZ*JASON WE SING WE DANCE WE STEAL THIN 17,133 19,045 -10% 1,081,739
31 ADELE 19 16,932 21,364 -21% 581,034
32 SLIM THUG BOSS OF ALL BOSSES 16,891 32,479 -48% 49,612
33 UNDERWOOD*CARRIE CARNIVAL RIDE 16,231 16,775 -3% 2,735,990
34 PAPA ROACH METAMORPHOSIS 15,984 44,449 -64% 60,582
35 RICH*JOHN SON OF A PREACHER MAN 15,331 30,878 -50% 46,210
36 MCBRIDE*MARTINA SHINE 15,090 41,457 -64% 56,565
37 * SWIFT*TAYLOR TAYLOR SWIFT 14,231 12,599 13% 4,049,276
38 * VARIOUS ARTISTS SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE (MUSIC FRO 13,900 10,907 27% 265,479
39 RUCKER*DARIUS LEARN TO LIVE 13,775 13,878 -1% 549,375
40 JONES*JIM PRAY IV REIGN 13,704 42,818 -68% 56,686
41 * DEATH CAB FOR CUTIE OPEN DOOR 13,590 0 #DIV/0! 13,590
42 * SILVERSTEIN SHIPWRECK IN THE SAND 13,465 76 17617% 13,541
43 SPEARS*BRITNEY CIRCUS 13,450 13,736 -2% 1,478,812
44 MASTODON CRACK THE SKYE 13,427 41,395 -68% 55,187
45 P!NK FUNHOUSE 13,272 13,602 -2% 976,809
46 VARIOUS NOW POWER BALLADS 13,068 17,346 -25% 30,417
47 * NICKS*STEVIE SOUNDSTAGE SESSIONS 13,052 76 17074% 13,130
48 THEORY OF A DEADMAN SCARS & SOUVENIRS 13,035 11,857 10% 423,710
49 BLUE OCTOBER APPROACHING NORM 12,089 37,160 -67% 49,356
50 SUGARLAND LOVE ON THE INSIDE 11,905 11,221 6% 1,489,481



And it doesn't make the album any less impressive.

well love fris of ahll jesus christ comes frist secound of ahll i realy dont think that the singer was realy trying to come frist love heack he would of loved being last cause they are frist any ways love so i just think he is happy enof that he is number 2 love and nouthing eles love peace love thoe
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Reply #17 posted 04/08/09 7:18am

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Although i don´t care that much about the chart position, ppl will only
talk about the No.1 and that would have given Prince some extra advertisement.
So if he is No.2 or No. 10 isn´t that important compared to the No.1 pos.
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Reply #18 posted 04/08/09 7:20am

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hey....Darius Rucker of Hootie and the Blowfish is on that list!! lol!!
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Reply #19 posted 04/08/09 7:21am

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ButterscotchPimp said:

Again, (and i can't believe it's ME that has to do this) I feel the need to get ya'll to focus on a couple of things.

Firstly, the album is AMAZING. Debuting at #2 doesn't make the album any less impressive than it is.

Secondly, Prince limited himself by only releasing the album at Target. To be honest, if he hadn't done that who knows what the debut might have been? And the fact that he came in at #2 and it was only sold at one retailer, makes #2 actually MORE impressive in my book.


(this is a WEIRD day on the Org when i'm the positive one)
(maybe i should go back to bed)


It's nice to see you being so positive for once. I'm glad you like the album since you haven't been too fond of the man's recent output.
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Reply #20 posted 04/08/09 7:23am

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Militant said:

ButterscotchPimp said:

Again, (and i can't believe it's ME that has to do this) I feel the need to get ya'll to focus on a couple of things.

Firstly, the album is AMAZING. Debuting at #2 doesn't make the album any less impressive than it is.

Secondly, Prince limited himself by only releasing the album at Target. To be honest, if he hadn't done that who knows what the debut might have been? And the fact that he came in at #2 and it was only sold at one retailer, makes #2 actually MORE impressive in my book.


(this is a WEIRD day on the Org when i'm the positive one)
(maybe i should go back to bed)


It's nice to see you being so positive for once. I'm glad you like the album since you haven't been too fond of the man's recent output.



Again, no one was more surprised than me. And like i've said on here a million times i WANT to like Prince. He's always been my musical hero. But i like what i like. and this album is GENIUS.
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Reply #21 posted 04/08/09 7:24am

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awww damn i'm still proud of him wink
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Reply #22 posted 04/08/09 7:25am

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japanrocks said:

hey....Darius Rucker of Hootie and the Blowfish is on that list!! lol!!

His album is one of the biggest country albums of the year.
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Reply #24 posted 04/08/09 7:27am

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ButterscotchPimp said:

Militant said:



It's nice to see you being so positive for once. I'm glad you like the album since you haven't been too fond of the man's recent output.



Again, no one was more surprised than me. And like i've said on here a million times i WANT to like Prince. He's always been my musical hero. But i like what i like. and this album is GENIUS.

Well it finally happened and I for one am happy for you. biggrin woot!
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Reply #25 posted 04/08/09 7:31am

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So am i.
I had the most fun listening to that album than i've had listening to music in a long time.

My face hurt i was smiling so much. biggrin
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Reply #26 posted 04/08/09 7:38am

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OK-here's what I don't get--there is a HUGE gap in the numbers b/t Soundscan & Hits Daily Doub.

Prince-HDD = 185,956
Prince-Sounscan = 168,458

that's a difference of 17,498!!!

Keith Urban-HDD = 177,292
Keith Urban-Soundscan = 171,547

diff. of 5,748

Keith Urban's numbers are off by a little, but Prince's numbers are off by A LOT!
What gives?!?
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Reply #27 posted 04/08/09 7:38am

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ButterscotchPimp said:

So am i.
I had the most fun listening to that album than i've had listening to music in a long time.

My face hurt i was smiling so much. biggrin

Dude, I know the feeling. It came out around my birthday so I was like a little kid listening to it that day. This is great music!
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Reply #28 posted 04/08/09 7:39am

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ButterscotchPimp said:

purplecam said:

You actually liked the CD BP?



LOL I was going to wait for things to die down around here before i gave my review of the album, but I went in totally prepared to hate the album and was completely blown away.

THAT's the Prince i'd been waiting to hear for a LONG time.
I even give Lotusflow3r a nudge over my beloved Rainbow Children because the subject matter isn't so heavy.

I'll admit i haven't listened to Bria's disc yet because i didn't want to ruin the high i got from listening to the Prince discs.

YES, for now i'm carrying my P torch once again. lol


Hell must of froze over
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Reply #29 posted 04/08/09 7:43am

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Even though charts mean nothing, its very impressive to be at number 2 - well done Prince!
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