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Well, I'm pleased that this has happen for him and all the musicians who were involved with this disc. Mr Hayes who helped produce the Bria cd especially!!! | |
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lastdecember said: stanleylieber said: i know what he's trying to say with that line but it just seems so nonsensical. radio is a business. he's not too far gone to see that yet. if he gives radio what it needs they will play his music. things like youtube and hip-hop blogs really function the way he is lamenting radio doesn't. and he tries to sue those kinds of community resources into the ground.  spontaneous social cohesion can't be controlled by a mastermind producer.
i think it's this model of the mega-rich superstar that works at cross-purposes to artists maintaining control of their work, longterm financial benefit from their work, and even their sanity. there are a lot of musicians none of us will have ever heard of who, leveraging the internet, make a decent living from their work and are beholden to no one. in a lot of ways prince helped lay the groundwork for that, at least as a form of inspiration, but it's really the inertia of the long tail that makes it inevitable. record companies have become irrelevant more as a function of how society has changed than through any real fault of their own. (much as how they became successful as a byproduct of material scarcity, which was likewise more a confluence of coincidental factors rather than any real vision on the part of corporations). prince feels like he hasn't been paid what he's worth. hopefully, the fact that we keep showing up for his albums and websites will get through to him someday. PRINCE will never have another radio hit plain and simple, he will get some play, but lets be real, here are the songs that have garnered him play in the last 10+ years. SomeBody's SOmebody Call My Name Satisfied Somewhere on Earth U're Gonna C me 3 of the last 4 are the same song. Prince cant get any wide play anymore, and the play he gets are for "typical" ballads that are all in the same predictable "prince" mode. Please explain to me how they are the same song??? I mean sometimes you guys just say some shiggidy and think that it is a fact. None of these songs even sound alike but I am waiting for you to answer just how they are the same song??? | |
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2elijah said: Wow, not bad for just selling it at one retailer. Who needs record companies when all you need to do is get together with a popular retailer, get them to promote you with a commercial, go on a late night show for 3 nights to promote it, do 3 concerts in a day, and open a website to draw attention to your album? Cool.
 Even the haters couldn't stop that.
[Edited 4/7/09 13:21pm] congrats Prince...like the song goes, you did it your way. you didn't swear, sing about explicit sex, you were spiritual and played your instruments. no matter what happens in the future, you have actually defeated the gatekeepers. all those 'critics' who want to uphold the status quo were also made to look foolish. let me add as well...3 cd's at a go!!! that's damn impressive, and respect must be given where it's due. Snare drum pound on the 2 & 4 | |
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When are we gettin lunch? There is too much snow in Hollywood! | |
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Issues04 said: Glory Glory Hallelujah!
Preach some mo'...remember the days when Prince wrote 'slave' on his cheek. people thought he was mad...but, he's totally vindicated himself many many times since he has freed himself from hegemonic media forces. Snare drum pound on the 2 & 4 | |
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So is the album actually on sale at retailers outside of the US yet? I haven't seen it anywhere in the UK yet, including HMV in Edinburgh. It isn't even listed on Amazon.co.uk or Play.com as far as I can see. | |
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It was always No.1 in my book, but if Prince is happy so am I.  | |
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I'm gonna jam MPLSound all day in my work van!!! Hey, Valentina!!! | |
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lastdecember said: khemseraph said: this is actual units.only the riaa certification will reflect that its a triple disc.by that standard its a gold record(180,000 x 3=540,000) Its not a given since he broke list price, he is only charging 11 dollars, which is the list price for 1 cd. The Eagles did the same thing at walmart with the 2cd set they had which sold 3 million which should have been a 6X mark since it was two cds, but the set was priced as one, therefore counted as one, PRINCE will most likely lose on this one for certification, unless he sells 500,000 straight, which is NOT LIKELY at all. How do u know he won't sell 500.000? This album is already proven successful way more than 3121 which eventually sold over 500.000. Some of U fans I think wish 4 Prince 2 fail........  will ALWAYS think of  like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. |
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stanleylieber said: SUPRMAN said: Not even. This is Prince not Michael Jackson. Prince can do most of it or all of it at home. What does it cost him? Musicians? That's a laugh. how much does it cost prince per year to keep l.a. studios on retainer? figures were posted recently. how much did prince spend making 'tmbgitw'? figures have been published. i'm just saying, prince can go through $2 million pretty quickly. it's unlikely that he has compiled three albums plus videos plus marketing for under $2 million. anyway, i don't think the target figures are any measure of his take. likely he received a sizable advance on the target deal and has no more financial stake in future sales. Abolutely, sobering and true. But lets not rain on his parade today. so        | |
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lastdecember said: khemseraph said: this is actual units.only the riaa certification will reflect that its a triple disc.by that standard its a gold record(180,000 x 3=540,000) Its not a given since he broke list price, he is only charging 11 dollars, which is the list price for 1 cd. The Eagles did the same thing at walmart with the 2cd set they had which sold 3 million which should have been a 6X mark since it was two cds, but the set was priced as one, therefore counted as one, PRINCE will most likely lose on this one for certification, unless he sells 500,000 straight, which is NOT LIKELY at all. well price has squat to do with whether it gets certified or not.that was an OLD riaa standard(like singles selling 1,000,000 only being certified gold) second why not have faith that prince will sell the hell out some records.geez...we all love the man dont we? | |
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Astasheiks said: All I Know Is:
186,000 x $11.98 = $2,228,280.00 Now how much of that is Prince's Cut???   "50/50 is a partnership...90/10 is employment" - Prince I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh | |
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Um, not to be a wet blanket but i have access to the Soundscan charts, and this one is WRONG. Prince debuted at #2, not #1. http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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Well this is quite a breaking news!!!!! In God we trust. | |
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Where are Billboard's results? I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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here's the ACTUAL Soundscan chart?
____ ____ ____ _____ _____ _____ _____ 1 * URBAN*KEITH DEFYING GRAVITY 171,525 22 779559% 171,547 2 * PRINCE LOTUS FLOW3R 168,420 38 443111% 168,458 3 * KRALL*DIANA QUIET NIGHTS 104,023 351 29536% 104,374 4 VARIOUS NOW 30 87,494 145,976 -40% 233,505 5 HANNAH MONTANA HANNAH MOVIE SNDTRK 86,501 138,700 -38% 225,281 6 * UGK UGK 4 LIFE 76,419 181 42120% 76,600 7 TWILIGHT SOUNDTRACK 73,492 102,012 -28% 1,720,313 8 * FLO RIDA R.O.O.T.S. (ROOT OF OVERCOMING 55,285 71 77766% 55,356 9 * LADY GAGA FAME 51,139 45,279 13% 602,694 10 SWIFT*TAYLOR FEARLESS 41,557 39,532 5% 2,977,444 11 HILSON*KERI IN A PERFECT WORLD... 37,030 94,078 -61% 131,527 12 U2 NO LINE ON THE HORIZON 35,989 51,179 -30% 780,478 13 * BOTTI*CHRIS CHRIS BOTTI LIVE IN BOSTON 35,746 369 9587% 36,116 14 CLARKSON*KELLY ALL I EVER WANTED 33,897 51,608 -34% 431,129 15 * ATKINS*RODNEY IT'S AMERICA 33,643 7 480514% 33,699 16 * BOW WOW NEW JACK CITY PT II 30,851 93 33073% 30,944 17 NICKELBACK DARK HORSE 29,074 30,156 -4% 1,770,067 18 THE-DREAM LOVE VS. MONEY 28,548 35,967 -21% 271,491 19 * DEGRAW*GAVIN FREE 26,194 20 130870% 26,214 20 * COOK*DAVID DAVID COOK 24,769 7,300 239% 1,067,673 21 BEYONCE I AM...SASHA FIERCE 22,820 22,798 0% 2,049,519 22 * YEAH YEAH YEAHS IT'S BLITZ! 21,763 3,495 523% 42,941 23 FOXX*JAMIE INTUITION 21,359 21,753 -2% 808,181 24 T.I. PAPER TRAIL 21,250 20,067 6% 1,858,062 25 * QUEENSRYCHE AMERICAN SOLDIER 20,993 45 46551% 21,038 26 * MCCLURKIN*DONNIE LIVE IN DETROIT 20,548 387 5210% 19,073 27 FRAY*THE FRAY 19,306 18,629 4% 451,488 28 KINGS OF LEON ONLY BY THE NIGHT 17,988 18,013 0% 565,430 29 BROWN*ZAC BAND FOUNDATION 17,759 16,361 9% 393,115 30 MRAZ*JASON WE SING WE DANCE WE STEAL THIN 17,133 19,045 -10% 1,081,739 31 ADELE 19 16,932 21,364 -21% 581,034 32 SLIM THUG BOSS OF ALL BOSSES 16,891 32,479 -48% 49,612 33 UNDERWOOD*CARRIE CARNIVAL RIDE 16,231 16,775 -3% 2,735,990 34 PAPA ROACH METAMORPHOSIS 15,984 44,449 -64% 60,582 35 RICH*JOHN SON OF A PREACHER MAN 15,331 30,878 -50% 46,210 36 MCBRIDE*MARTINA SHINE 15,090 41,457 -64% 56,565 37 * SWIFT*TAYLOR TAYLOR SWIFT 14,231 12,599 13% 4,049,276 38 * VARIOUS ARTISTS SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE (MUSIC FRO 13,900 10,907 27% 265,479 39 RUCKER*DARIUS LEARN TO LIVE 13,775 13,878 -1% 549,375 40 JONES*JIM PRAY IV REIGN 13,704 42,818 -68% 56,686 41 * DEATH CAB FOR CUTIE OPEN DOOR 13,590 0 #DIV/0! 13,590 42 * SILVERSTEIN SHIPWRECK IN THE SAND 13,465 76 17617% 13,541 43 SPEARS*BRITNEY CIRCUS 13,450 13,736 -2% 1,478,812 44 MASTODON CRACK THE SKYE 13,427 41,395 -68% 55,187 45 P!NK FUNHOUSE 13,272 13,602 -2% 976,809 46 VARIOUS NOW POWER BALLADS 13,068 17,346 -25% 30,417 47 * NICKS*STEVIE SOUNDSTAGE SESSIONS 13,052 76 17074% 13,130 48 THEORY OF A DEADMAN SCARS & SOUVENIRS 13,035 11,857 10% 423,710 49 BLUE OCTOBER APPROACHING NORM 12,089 37,160 -67% 49,356 50 SUGARLAND LOVE ON THE INSIDE 11,905 11,221 6% 1,489,481 http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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To clear up all confusion in regards to multiple Cd albums.
Chart status: Billboard's weekly sales charts are powered by Nielsen SoundScan sales data. When an album is counted by Nielsen SoundScan, it doesn't matter if there is one CD inside the package, or 20: it still counts as ONE sale. Certification: With RIAA, Multi-Disc Set, each unit within a set counts as one unit toward certification. 500,000 units for Gold Certification, 1,000,000 units for Platinum Certification, 2,000,000 units for Mulit-Platinum Certification and is recertified at each million unit sales level. SoundScan (Billboard) measures over-the-counter sales at music retail locations, while the RIAA®'s certification levels are based on unit shipments (minus returns) from manufacturers to a wide range of accounts, including non-retail record clubs, mail order houses, specialty stores, units shipped for Internet fulfillment or direct marketing sales, such as TV-advertised albums. The other difference is that SoundScan's archive is only a few years old, while the RIAA® has tracked artists' sales levels for more than 40 years. OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!
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^^ Auchhh, the debut by Prince is OFFICIALLY only at the #2 spot!???
you can't trust prince.org no more, I mean the headline to this thread... 
Damn.  sorry.... Prince 4Ever.  | |
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. [Edited 4/8/09 6:46am] 12/05/2011
P*$$y so bad, if u throw it into da air, it would turn into sunshine!!!  | |
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Prince will always be number one no matter what anybody says!  | |
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so the thread title should be "Prince Debuts in the Top of the Charts"? | |
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It needs to be changed. I was afraid that the org was jumping the gun, even in the cautious celebrating I was doing. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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purplecam said: It needs to be changed. I was afraid that the org was jumping the gun, even in the cautious celebrating I was doing.
The Org wasn't the only one. Okayplayer ran with the same errored numbers. Although it might've been the same person that posted both. http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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LMMFAO!!!! All that hootin' and hollerin' for NOTHING!! He ain't #1, and I see all the fams were SO ready to rub it in everyone's faces!
Granted, #2 is still an achievement in itself, but I just KNEW he wasn't going to top Keith Urban. So, fams....calm down!! No More #1 For U!!! LOL! | |
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Ok so tell me why are the figures where he is number 1 wrong but where he is number 2 right? | |
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That's the way I like it!!! Prince....congratulations!!!
You deserve it as always!! Lotusflower is a masterpiece!!! | |
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Lovesymbol2 said: Ok so tell me why are the figures where he is number 1 wrong but where he is number 2 right?
Because the numbers I posted come directly from Soundscan which is what Billboard uses to create their charts. I don't know where that other chart came from. http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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ButterscotchPimp said: Lovesymbol2 said: Ok so tell me why are the figures where he is number 1 wrong but where he is number 2 right?
Because the numbers I posted come directly from Soundscan which is what Billboard uses to create their charts. I don't know where that other chart came from. Hmm i cant quite figure whom is correct now, will let time tell | |
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THE BILLBOARD NUMBERS HAVENT BEEN RELEASED YET SOMEONE IS PLAYING A TRICK i CHECKED ALL THE FORUMS WHICH POST THE NUMBERS . THE EARLY NUMBERS COME IN AT AROUND MID DAY EASTERN AND THE DETAILED NUMBERS SIMILAR TO THOSE POSTED HERE APPEAR 1-3 DAYS LATER
MOST LIKELY THESE NUMBERS ARE JUST FAKE [Edited 4/8/09 7:20am] |
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