NDRU said: Spank86 said: listen to the riffs again, carefully. The sound very very similar but they are not the same. exactly, the actual notes are different. so you saying the whole song was invented by prince? | |
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vinx98 said: NDRU said: exactly, the actual notes are different. so you saying the whole song was invented by prince? I'm saying that, yes, there is nothing specifically stolen from the song. But it's pretty obvious that he copied it. My Legacy
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NDRU said: vinx98 said: so you saying the whole song was invented by prince? I'm saying that, yes, there is nothing specifically stolen from the song. But it's pretty obvious that he copied it. Yah, just cant stand p fans who think he made everything. The guitar gently weep was horriblely stealing the limelight. Any other guitarist there cuold have done it too n there is no reason to go in front of all of them n make that orgasmic face if u cant tell me if Prince or Rosie did the opening scream for Gett Off, then u are not purple !!! | |
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vinx98 said: NDRU said: exactly, the actual notes are different. so you saying the whole song was invented by prince? Yes the song is an original prince recording. It does however borrow heavily from Jimi Hendrix's sound. But then many other bands write songs that sound like other artists, It's not illegal or immoral to sound like someone. | |
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blacksweat said: ....
If this was a problem, Lenny Kravitz, wouldn't have had a career. ohh true! "Hyperactive when I was small, Hyperactive now I'm grown, Hyperactive 'till I'm dead and gone"
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While we are on the same subject, Prince's Purple House is eerily similar to Hendrix's Red House. Coincidence? If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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vinx98 said: he still needs permission whether its the whole song or part of the song. if someone sampled a riff from kiss and raspberry beret, they would still have to ask prince (or whoever owned the license to those songs). the person in question would have to be at least credited and they could sue for recompense or have an agreement on licensing.
I wonder if Prince asked permission to use The Buzzcocks "Are Evertything" melody as the basic melody for Raspberry Beret. [Edited 4/2/09 9:38am] If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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squirrelgrease said: vinx98 said: he still needs permission whether its the whole song or part of the song. if someone sampled a riff from kiss and raspberry beret, they would still have to ask prince (or whoever owned the license to those songs). the person in question would have to be at least credited and they could sue for recompense or have an agreement on licensing.
I wonder if Prince asked permission to use The Buzzcocks "Are Evertything" melody as the basic melody for Raspberry Beret. [Edited 4/2/09 9:38am] no more than they asked the Doors for permission to use the music from Hello, I Love You My Legacy
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While we're wondering, I wonder if prince asked Elton John's permission to use a piano in his music? | |
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NDRU said: squirrelgrease said: I wonder if Prince asked permission to use The Buzzcocks "Are Evertything" melody as the basic melody for Raspberry Beret. [Edited 4/2/09 9:38am] no more than they asked the Doors for permission to use the music from Hello, I Love You Ahhh... the vox. If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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Not only does it do so, next to that it is a far rather overrated new Prince song.
The lyrics are crap: another example of Princes disability to write strong 'political' lyrics. Next to that, his guitar-solo's are going nowhere on this track. He is overindulging himself, trying to show off, while more 'measured' guitar solo's on songs like The question of U and Dolphin are far better. | |
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squirrelgrease said: While we are on the same subject, Prince's Purple House is eerily similar to Hendrix's Red House. Coincidence?
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Riverpoet31 said: Not only does it do so, next to that it is a far rather overrated new Prince song.
The lyrics are crap: another example of Princes disability to write strong 'political' lyrics. Next to that, his guitar-solo's are going nowhere on this track. He is overindulging himself, trying to show off, while more 'measured' guitar solo's on songs like The question of U and Dolphin are far better. | |
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NDRU said: squirrelgrease said: I wonder if Prince asked permission to use The Buzzcocks "Are Evertything" melody as the basic melody for Raspberry Beret. [Edited 4/2/09 9:38am] no more than they asked the Doors for permission to use the music from Hello, I Love You excellent comeback for a smart ass remark | |
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why is this thread still alive? | |
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MajesticOne89 said: squirrelgrease said: While we are on the same subject, Prince's Purple House is eerily similar to Hendrix's Red House. Coincidence?
that is a tribute cd if u cant tell me if Prince or Rosie did the opening scream for Gett Off, then u are not purple !!! | |
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sounds different to me, and i'm a big hendrix fan! | |
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ass said: Check This Out !!! http://www.youtube.com/wa...5zp1zVVDAQ [Edited 3/29/09 9:23am] [Edited 3/29/09 9:26am] C'mon, let's call it "inspiration"...per se The Ignorant asserts,The learned doubts,The wise thinks.
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Riverpoet31 said: Not only does it do so, next to that it is a far rather overrated new Prince song.
The lyrics are crap: another example of Princes disability to write strong 'political' lyrics. Next to that, his guitar-solo's are going nowhere on this track. He is overindulging himself, trying to show off, while more 'measured' guitar solo's on songs like The question of U and Dolphin are far better. i didnt know the fact that prince couldnt write lyrics was a "disability" but maybe it is. | |
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Alright. I'm only posting this because of how absurdly sick I am of this topic.
The songs use different riffs. There is no stealing. There is no reason to credit Jimi other than maybe a "special thanks" at the end of the album credits. To vinx98, yes, you are very correct when it comes from permission for sampling, but there is absolutely no sampling. Prince wrote this song. Also, "Voodoo Chile" is made up from Muddy Waters songs: http://www.youtube.com/wa...BywcdZ65Z8 http://www.youtube.com/wa...uXCjOYcKI0 http://www.youtube.com/wa...fvvCyjbTb0 The third is commonly credited to Muddy, but I couldn't find the Muddy Version. That is actually an earlier version by Hambone Willie Newbern. What? You mean "Dreamer" took a song that took three songs in which one took another song? "Rollin and Tumblin" is originally "Minglewood Blues," first recorded by Gus Cannon, which was then "Roll and Tumble Blues" by Hambone Willie Newbern, and THEN "Rollin and Tumblin" by Muddy Waters. So you're saying the Hendrix estate should sue because of a claim that Prince did the same thing that Hendrix did with the very song in question, in which one of those songs that Hendrix used to make the aforementioned song was actually a version of another song which was a version of another song. Done. [Edited 4/5/09 23:19pm] | |
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timorousme said: Alright. I'm only posting this because of how absurdly sick I am of this topic.
The songs use different riffs. There is no stealing. There is no reason to credit Jimi other than maybe a "special thanks" at the end of the album credits. To vinx98, yes, you are very correct when it comes from permission for sampling, but there is absolutely no sampling. Prince wrote this song. Also, "Voodoo Chile" is made up from Muddy Waters songs: http://www.youtube.com/wa...BywcdZ65Z8 http://www.youtube.com/wa...uXCjOYcKI0 http://www.youtube.com/wa...fvvCyjbTb0 The third is commonly credited to Muddy, but I couldn't find the Muddy Version. That is actually an earlier version by Hambone Willie Newbern. What? You mean "Dreamer" took a song that took three songs in which one took another song? "Rollin and Tumblin" is originally "Minglewood Blues," first recorded by Gus Cannon, which was then "Roll and Tumble Blues" by Hambone Willie Newbern, and THEN "Rollin and Tumblin" by Muddy Waters. So you're saying the Hendrix estate should sue because of a claim that Prince did the same thing that Hendrix did with the very song in question, in which one of those songs that Hendrix used to make the aforementioned song was actually a version of another song which was a version of another song. Done. [Edited 4/5/09 23:19pm] If u are sick, go and see a doctor. What is your MAIN problem? Dont u know that Purple Rain was also stolen from Faithfully by Journey???? [Edited 4/6/09 8:36am] [Edited 4/6/09 8:36am] if u cant tell me if Prince or Rosie did the opening scream for Gett Off, then u are not purple !!! | |
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ass said: timorousme said: Alright. I'm only posting this because of how absurdly sick I am of this topic.
The songs use different riffs. There is no stealing. There is no reason to credit Jimi other than maybe a "special thanks" at the end of the album credits. To vinx98, yes, you are very correct when it comes from permission for sampling, but there is absolutely no sampling. Prince wrote this song. Also, "Voodoo Chile" is made up from Muddy Waters songs: http://www.youtube.com/wa...BywcdZ65Z8 http://www.youtube.com/wa...uXCjOYcKI0 http://www.youtube.com/wa...fvvCyjbTb0 The third is commonly credited to Muddy, but I couldn't find the Muddy Version. That is actually an earlier version by Hambone Willie Newbern. What? You mean "Dreamer" took a song that took three songs in which one took another song? "Rollin and Tumblin" is originally "Minglewood Blues," first recorded by Gus Cannon, which was then "Roll and Tumble Blues" by Hambone Willie Newbern, and THEN "Rollin and Tumblin" by Muddy Waters. So you're saying the Hendrix estate should sue because of a claim that Prince did the same thing that Hendrix did with the very song in question, in which one of those songs that Hendrix used to make the aforementioned song was actually a version of another song which was a version of another song. Done. [Edited 4/5/09 23:19pm] If u are sick, go and see a doctor. What is your MAIN problem? Dont u know that Purple Rain was also stolen from Faithfully by Journey???? [Edited 4/6/09 8:36am] [Edited 4/6/09 8:36am] Hahahahaha some of you are just crazy with the heat in a winter storm. If it is really stolen from Journey then why have they never taken him to court??? | |
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jimmyrogertodd said: ass said: If u are sick, go and see a doctor. What is your MAIN problem? Dont u know that Purple Rain was also stolen from Faithfully by Journey???? [Edited 4/6/09 8:36am] [Edited 4/6/09 8:36am] Hahahahaha some of you are just crazy with the heat in a winter storm. If it is really stolen from Journey then why have they never taken him to court??? Faithfully aka Purple Pain was released 1983 The similarity really comes towards the end of the song...The similarity really comes towards the end of the song...whoa whoa whoo whoa, I ONLY WANT TO SEE U IN THE FAITHFULLY!!! That is be cause Prince sent Journey a letter of apology!!What a ripoff...All these years I thought the song was completely original http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related [Edited 4/6/09 9:42am] [Edited 4/6/09 9:44am] if u cant tell me if Prince or Rosie did the opening scream for Gett Off, then u are not purple !!! | |
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ass said: timorousme said: Alright. I'm only posting this because of how absurdly sick I am of this topic.
The songs use different riffs. There is no stealing. There is no reason to credit Jimi other than maybe a "special thanks" at the end of the album credits. To vinx98, yes, you are very correct when it comes from permission for sampling, but there is absolutely no sampling. Prince wrote this song. Also, "Voodoo Chile" is made up from Muddy Waters songs: http://www.youtube.com/wa...BywcdZ65Z8 http://www.youtube.com/wa...uXCjOYcKI0 http://www.youtube.com/wa...fvvCyjbTb0 The third is commonly credited to Muddy, but I couldn't find the Muddy Version. That is actually an earlier version by Hambone Willie Newbern. What? You mean "Dreamer" took a song that took three songs in which one took another song? "Rollin and Tumblin" is originally "Minglewood Blues," first recorded by Gus Cannon, which was then "Roll and Tumble Blues" by Hambone Willie Newbern, and THEN "Rollin and Tumblin" by Muddy Waters. So you're saying the Hendrix estate should sue because of a claim that Prince did the same thing that Hendrix did with the very song in question, in which one of those songs that Hendrix used to make the aforementioned song was actually a version of another song which was a version of another song. Done. [Edited 4/5/09 23:19pm] If u are sick, go and see a doctor. What is your MAIN problem? Dont u know that Purple Rain was also stolen from Faithfully by Journey???? [Edited 4/6/09 8:36am] [Edited 4/6/09 8:36am] Impressive, he stole the song a couple of months after they released it and nobody knew. | |
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Whoa Whoa Whoo Whoa, Whoa Whoa Whoo Whoa, I ONLY WANT TO SEE U IN THE FAITHFULLY!!!
Whoa Whoa Whoo Whoa, Whoa Whoa Whoo Whoa, I ONLY WANT TO SEE U IN THE FAITHFULLY!!! Whoa Whoa Whoo Whoa, Whoa Whoa Whoo Whoa, I ONLY WANT TO SEE U IN THE FAITHFULLY!!! if u cant tell me if Prince or Rosie did the opening scream for Gett Off, then u are not purple !!! | |
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squirrelgrease said: I wonder if Prince asked permission to use The Buzzcocks "Are Evertything" melody as the basic melody for Raspberry Beret. As if Prince has ever heard a Buzzcocks song in his life. No hard feelings. | |
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airbak said: Maybe it's just a "reimagining" of Voodoo Chile! LOL Could also be paying homage to the guitar genius. Who really cares. Everything is derivative or inspired by something else and "Dreamer" is an AWESOME track however you label it.
Why in the HELL do you people keep calling it Voodoo "Chile"??!!!?? It's "Child"!!! I know not all of you do, but a jarring number do. Look it up first, before you post continuous wrong, misspelled shit over and over again!!! | |
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alexnvrmnd777 said: airbak said: Maybe it's just a "reimagining" of Voodoo Chile! LOL Could also be paying homage to the guitar genius. Who really cares. Everything is derivative or inspired by something else and "Dreamer" is an AWESOME track however you label it.
Why in the HELL do you people keep calling it Voodoo "Chile"??!!!?? It's "Child"!!! I know not all of you do, but a jarring number do. Look it up first, before you post continuous wrong, misspelled shit over and over again!!! The 14:59 version on Electric Ladyland is called VOODOO CHILE. The last song on the album is called VOODOO CHILD(SLIGHT RETURN) I have always thought of Spanish Castle Magic when I here DREAMER. [Edited 4/6/09 10:07am] | |
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I think it's meant as a homage. The first second I heard it I thought "Voodoo Child."
Do you really think he'd try and rip-off such a classic song so blatantly? | |
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