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Reply #90 posted 03/25/09 3:00am

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Anyone play the Sonic games on XBox or such like?

Tell me The Morning After doesn't sound like some of the music from those games at the start..... lol
So look into the mirror, do u recognise some1? Is it who u always hoped u would become, when u were young?
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Reply #91 posted 03/25/09 3:02am

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im gutted that crimson and clover isnt on lotus, is it on the pre-order ? its strange that its not, and where does it fit into the scheme of things?
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Reply #92 posted 03/25/09 3:46am

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vinx98 said:

im gutted that crimson and clover isnt on lotus, is it on the pre-order ? its strange that its not, and where does it fit into the scheme of things?


I think it's a royalty issue. Prince doesn't own the publishing and it's easy to account from the physical CDs. He doesn't want anyone to have a slice of the $77. lol
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Reply #93 posted 03/25/09 3:48am

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blacksweat said:

vinx98 said:

im gutted that crimson and clover isnt on lotus, is it on the pre-order ? its strange that its not, and where does it fit into the scheme of things?


I think it's a royalty issue. Prince doesn't own the publishing and it's easy to account from the physical CDs. He doesn't want anyone to have a slice of the $77. lol



Oh Yeah....i get it... lol
Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
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Reply #94 posted 03/25/09 3:52am

Number23

blacksweat said:

vinx98 said:

im gutted that crimson and clover isnt on lotus, is it on the pre-order ? its strange that its not, and where does it fit into the scheme of things?


I think it's a royalty issue. Prince doesn't own the publishing and it's easy to account from the physical CDs. He doesn't want anyone to have a slice of the $77. lol

Sadly, that probably is the reason. It truly is a fucking tragic decision not to include the lead single on the download album. And no-one knows where it fucking goes when we do get it! Before the new song? After the new song? It essentially means there is two different running orders for this album, and as a sad bastard who loves albums intended as a whole artistic statement where everything is preceicely placed and structured by the artist, I am slightly in awe of the boldness of Prince's fuck-you here. Absolute awe.
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Reply #95 posted 03/25/09 4:02am

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Number23 said:

blacksweat said:



I think it's a royalty issue. Prince doesn't own the publishing and it's easy to account from the physical CDs. He doesn't want anyone to have a slice of the $77. lol

Sadly, that probably is the reason. It truly is a fucking tragic decision not to include the lead single on the download album. And no-one knows where it fucking goes when we do get it! Before the new song? After the new song? It essentially means there is two different running orders for this album, and as a sad bastard who loves albums intended as a whole artistic statement where everything is preceicely placed and structured by the artist, I am slightly in awe of the boldness of Prince's fuck-you here. Absolute awe.


it is indeed almost beyond comprehension. i started several threads about
"boom" cutting short before i figured out just now that it is supposed to
segue into "crimson and clover" since the guitar sound on both is almost
identical in parts. they will flow into one another amazingly well.

yet, for some disturbing reason, prince just yanks it off the net release
at no doubt the last minute and replaces it with this new song that is a)
nowhere near as good as crimson and clover and b) messes up the flow since
it doesn't glues as well with the end of "boom".

we'll have to wait for the retail version to hear that for ourselves but
i've just heard from someone who has heard the retail version, that it
indeed segues beautifully into "crimson and clover".

damn damn damn.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #96 posted 03/25/09 4:05am

Number23

IstenSzek said:

Number23 said:


Sadly, that probably is the reason. It truly is a fucking tragic decision not to include the lead single on the download album. And no-one knows where it fucking goes when we do get it! Before the new song? After the new song? It essentially means there is two different running orders for this album, and as a sad bastard who loves albums intended as a whole artistic statement where everything is preceicely placed and structured by the artist, I am slightly in awe of the boldness of Prince's fuck-you here. Absolute awe.


it is indeed almost beyond comprehension. i started several threads about
"boom" cutting short before i figured out just now that it is supposed to
segue into "crimson and clover" since the guitar sound on both is almost
identical in parts. they will flow into one another amazingly well.

yet, for some disturbing reason, prince just yanks it off the net release
at no doubt the last minute and replaces it with this new song that is a)
nowhere near as good as crimson and clover and b) messes up the flow since
it doesn't glues as well with the end of "boom".

we'll have to wait for the retail version to hear that for ourselves but
i've just heard from someone who has heard the retail version, that it
indeed segues beautifully into "crimson and clover".

damn damn damn.

I thought you were off to bed! lol
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Reply #97 posted 03/25/09 4:06am

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Number23 said:

IstenSzek said:



it is indeed almost beyond comprehension. i started several threads about
"boom" cutting short before i figured out just now that it is supposed to
segue into "crimson and clover" since the guitar sound on both is almost
identical in parts. they will flow into one another amazingly well.

yet, for some disturbing reason, prince just yanks it off the net release
at no doubt the last minute and replaces it with this new song that is a)
nowhere near as good as crimson and clover and b) messes up the flow since
it doesn't glues as well with the end of "boom".

we'll have to wait for the retail version to hear that for ourselves but
i've just heard from someone who has heard the retail version, that it
indeed segues beautifully into "crimson and clover".

damn damn damn.

I thought you were off to bed! lol


i was but i had to make a short stop at the porcelain bowl first
since i have a bad case of stomach flu since 10:00 this morning.

i'm not saying i got it from the site but it IS a coincidence lol
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #98 posted 03/25/09 4:10am

Number23

IstenSzek said:

Number23 said:


I thought you were off to bed! lol


i was but i had to make a short stop at the porcelain bowl first
since i have a bad case of stomach flu since 10:00 this morning.

i'm not saying i got it from the site but it IS a coincidence lol

Do you have one of those wee spary toilety things you wash your arse with over there? Those are indeed shocking for a toilet paper man like myself, although very likely, incredibly hygenic.
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Reply #99 posted 03/25/09 4:10am

Number23

Number23 said:

IstenSzek said:



i was but i had to make a short stop at the porcelain bowl first
since i have a bad case of stomach flu since 10:00 this morning.

i'm not saying i got it from the site but it IS a coincidence lol

Do you have one of those wee spary toilety things you wash your arse with over there? Those are indeed shocking for a toilet paper man like myself, although very likely, incredibly hygenic.

spray toilety things
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Reply #100 posted 03/25/09 4:13am

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Number23 said:

blacksweat said:



I think it's a royalty issue. Prince doesn't own the publishing and it's easy to account from the physical CDs. He doesn't want anyone to have a slice of the $77. lol

Sadly, that probably is the reason. It truly is a fucking tragic decision not to include the lead single on the download album. And no-one knows where it fucking goes when we do get it! Before the new song? After the new song? It essentially means there is two different running orders for this album, and as a sad bastard who loves albums intended as a whole artistic statement where everything is preceicely placed and structured by the artist, I am slightly in awe of the boldness of Prince's fuck-you here. Absolute awe.


No question and C&C will work much better on the CD.
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Reply #101 posted 03/25/09 4:26am

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I really like The Morning After but agree Crimson will fit better. The only thing on here that I'm not down with is 77 Beverly Park. It starts off really well, then descends into, I don't know what. Much too mellow for this album imho. I think I'll maybe burn a copy without this and put The Morning After in it's place. Or maybe it'll grow on me, but at the moment it seems totally out of keeping with the rest of the album.
RIP sad
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Reply #102 posted 03/25/09 4:27am

Gohi

I think I'll make a copy of the album with 4ever deleted and replaced with Crimson & Clover.
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Reply #103 posted 03/25/09 4:35am

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TheEnglishGent said:

I really like The Morning After but agree Crimson will fit better. The only thing on here that I'm not down with is 77 Beverly Park. It starts off really well, then descends into, I don't know what. Much too mellow for this album imho. I think I'll maybe burn a copy without this and put The Morning After in it's place. Or maybe it'll grow on me, but at the moment it seems totally out of keeping with the rest of the album.


That's what I thought, but I've only heard it the once.
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Reply #104 posted 03/25/09 5:07am

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I'm still on the edge of my seat waiting 4 Sunday...
I'm happy everyone seems to love the albums so far... cool
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #105 posted 03/25/09 5:12am

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Why is Crimson and Clover not on the download? Strange.
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Reply #106 posted 03/25/09 5:14am

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gmcb said:

Why is Crimson and Clover not on the download? Strange.


Ignore my post. I just read the previous posts and it seems like this has been addressed.
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Reply #107 posted 03/25/09 5:15am

tuztones

LOTUSFLOWER is a FANTASTIC ALBUM!! Thank you PRINCE!!!!!
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Reply #108 posted 03/25/09 5:47am

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thanks 2 all 4 the reviews /comments....
I aint gonna here the new joints til the target release...
sounds like Dreamer is the overall pick for best song...and a rocker...
cant wait
atleast I will get a taste of a few songs the next 3nites
on Leno.
Maybe Dreamer?
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Reply #109 posted 03/25/09 5:56am

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JulesWindu said:

Put the 2 albums together and you have Prince's best stuff in basically 15 years. Not since The Gold Experience have I been this excited about Prince's music as a whole.



I agree!! I'm pleasantly surprised. The combination of them work so well.
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Reply #110 posted 03/25/09 5:58am

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blacksweat said:

vinx98 said:

im gutted that crimson and clover isnt on lotus, is it on the pre-order ? its strange that its not, and where does it fit into the scheme of things?


I think it's a royalty issue. Prince doesn't own the publishing and it's easy to account from the physical CDs. He doesn't want anyone to have a slice of the $77. lol



That's exactly right. Same thing happened with Tori Amos when she released her "official bootlegs" from her last tour. None of the shows where she did covers were included.
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Reply #111 posted 03/25/09 6:01am

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NoVideo said:

blacksweat said:



I think it's a royalty issue. Prince doesn't own the publishing and it's easy to account from the physical CDs. He doesn't want anyone to have a slice of the $77. lol



That's exactly right. Same thing happened with Tori Amos when she released her "official bootlegs" from her last tour. None of the shows where she did covers were included.


did she release another set recently? i've only got the 2005 official
bootleg live box and every disc contains 2 covers for every show.

hmmm
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Reply #112 posted 03/25/09 6:06am

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IstenSzek said:

NoVideo said:




That's exactly right. Same thing happened with Tori Amos when she released her "official bootlegs" from her last tour. None of the shows where she did covers were included.


did she release another set recently? i've only got the 2005 official
bootleg live box and every disc contains 2 covers for every show.

hmmm


Yup, she released shows from her 2007 tour in support of American Doll Posse. Initially they were available only from her website, but they are now on iTunes and amazon.com's download store. (and they are terrific - with the full band. Much better than the 2005 shows IMHO). Unlike the 2005 shows, these didn't get a physical CD release (that i'm aware of).
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Reply #113 posted 03/25/09 6:12am

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Question: is it supposed to be Feel Good, Feel Better, Feel Wonderful

or

Feel Better, Feel Good, Feel Wonderful.

It seems strange the order in the title would be different than how they are sung in the song.

Could it be an error in the tagging on the downloads? Especially considering they didn't bother to plug in the artist and album title for Elixer or Lotusflow3r (at least on my downloads)
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Reply #114 posted 03/25/09 6:24am

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blacksweat said:

Number23 said:


Sadly, that probably is the reason. It truly is a fucking tragic decision not to include the lead single on the download album. And no-one knows where it fucking goes when we do get it! Before the new song? After the new song? It essentially means there is two different running orders for this album, and as a sad bastard who loves albums intended as a whole artistic statement where everything is preceicely placed and structured by the artist, I am slightly in awe of the boldness of Prince's fuck-you here. Absolute awe.


No question and C&C will work much better on the CD.



my point is, C&C is my favourite song, and only after listening to the music that I realised it wasnt on there, i was totally gutted. now you guys are telling me it has been yanked out and will be available on the CD? So Ive just paid 77 USD for less??
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Reply #115 posted 03/25/09 6:56am

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could this be his best album this decade?

I was thinking about this last night and so far would agree with that statement. I'm loving this album!
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Reply #116 posted 03/25/09 7:01am

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vinx98 said:

blacksweat said:



No question and C&C will work much better on the CD.



my point is, C&C is my favourite song, and only after listening to the music that I realised it wasnt on there, i was totally gutted. now you guys are telling me it has been yanked out and will be available on the CD? So Ive just paid 77 USD for less??


well it seems that "the morning after" will not be on the retail release
so both releases have one "exclusive" song.

i hate it too, but that's how it is. neutral
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Reply #117 posted 03/25/09 7:04am

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I just finished listening to Lotusflow3r, the 1st of the 3 and this album is GREAT, no lie. It's very organic in sound and the consistancy in this album is great. I aree with the other in that I think that C&C will very well if not better on LF. I'm really feeling Boom, Feel Good, Feel Better, Feel Wonderful, $, Dreamer and ...Back 2 the Lotus. It's very focused and it just works. This was based on one listen but this is a CD that deserves to be played many times to really feel it. That's one of the times that I would compare this to another CD like TRC. It's a great piece of work and a great way for me to prepare for my Birthday which is tomorrow! I can't wait to hear the rest of the CD's! woot!
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Reply #118 posted 03/25/09 7:09am

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purplecam said:

I just finished listening to Lotusflow3r, the 1st of the 3 and this album is GREAT, no lie. It's very organic in sound and the consistancy in this album is great. I aree with the other in that I think that C&C will very well if not better on LF. I'm really feeling Boom, Feel Good, Feel Better, Feel Wonderful, $, Dreamer and ...Back 2 the Lotus. It's very focused and it just works. This was based on one listen but this is a CD that deserves to be played many times to really feel it. That's one of the times that I would compare this to another CD like TRC. It's a great piece of work and a great way for me to prepare for my Birthday which is tomorrow! I can't wait to hear the rest of the CD's! woot!


i love it very much too. it's like a mix between the organic sound of TRC
but with the loose funk n roll feel of The Gold Experience.

def an album that will be very rewarding in the times to come. sounds at
leat a hundred times better than "planet earth" on first and second listen.

now i just want crimson and clover in the same soundquality to put on it
as well and make it even more brilliant.

top 10 album for sure once crimson and clover is included.
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Reply #119 posted 03/25/09 7:12am

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I really like Crimson and Clover, gutted its not on the download.
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