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Printableeveryone's praising mplsound over lotusflow3r. ain't that some shit?  still can't wait to hear all this stuff myself   life's a bitch, but god forbid the bitch divorce me...
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NuPwrSoul said: MPLSound seems to be emerging as the critics favorite of all three which is kind of interesting because among the fans it's been the one most people seem the most cautious about. I've grown weary of Prince's attempts to make club-bangers today or even approximate the experimental funk of his past (Black Sweat being an exceptional and in my view successful revival); but these two tracks in particular that were previewed, "There'll Never Be Another Like Me" and "Chocolate Box" did NOTHING for me.
It might be because of the nostalgia factor, that Prince is trying to sound like his younger self. Either way, I can't wait to hear MPLSound! | |
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alxndrstff said: It'll be interesting to see just how the org receives Lotuflow3r now, after a couple of negative reviews.
3121 and Planet Earth got decently positive hype from the critics, yet were/are regularly slated on here. With the reverse being true in terms of expectation from these reviews, this could be interesting..... I think you'll find as many supporters of 3121 and planet Earth. They were a couple of great Pop albums. I expect Lotus Flow3r to be a more of an artistic statement along the lines of ATWIAD, PArade, Lovesexy, The Rainbow Children. Both reviews so far have favoured MPLSound which is interesting. I would still like a proper reveiw, one where the reviewer mentions more than a handful of tracks and at least describes or compares the tracks. Both reviews have been very lightweight. | |
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These aren't proper reviews.
You can never judge an Album on one or two listens. Anyhow has a longtime fan I would be far more interested in a Fans review such as those we had from the Listening Parties for 3121 and Planet Earth. People who really know his music. Mine current expectations for the Prince albums are high especially for Lotus Flow3r as I've four tracks from it that I think are all very good. My expectations for Bri's release have never be very high. I think Another Boy is very weak, the first song Here I come was better from what I remember, but my I'm ready to be pleasantly surprised. | |
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Strange thing is, everyone here on the Org has heard quite a few tracks from both albums. The response has been almost universally positive. There has been very little bitchin about the tracks. Which is great compared to the negativity that surrounded Planet Earth. Not sure anyone has pointed this out, but we all like the so-far released tracks, don't we? That hasn't happened in a long time.
So screw the reviewer, I think P has gotten this one right. I love the sound of Mplsound and Lotusflow3r. (Sorry Bria) "My God it's full of Stars"
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mushmackalenta said: These aren't proper reviews.
You can never judge an Album on one or two listens. Anyhow has a longtime fan I would be far more interested in a Fans review such as those we had from the Listening Parties for 3121 and Planet Earth. People who really know his music. Mine current expectations for the Prince albums are high especially for Lotus Flow3r as I've four tracks from it that I think are all very good.  I'm hot and I don't care who knows it...I got a job to do.  |
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what we know from lotusflow3r:
crimson and clover wall of berlin colonized mind forever feel good, feel better, feel wonderful (partly) what we heard about others: dreamer boom the ones we've all heard are imo very healthy sounding songs that seem to indicate that despite reports and rumors the album does have a very distinct vibe. kinda like TRC had or TGE had. both were guitar heavy, but also had funk or dance tracks and some general weirdness. we haven't all heard "boom" and "dreamer" but they seem to continue in the same vein if reports are correct that they are both rocking guitar tracks. a few non-guitar based tracks, like some bass/synth/drum tracks or one or two jazzy cuts with a bit of brass would lift the album up and make it more breezy. so overall, this sounds like an incredibly good album to me, especially since i like all 5 of the tracks that we've heard this far. add to that the unanimous love for "boom" and "dreamer" from all those who have had the pleasure of hearing it live or on record and you've got 7 out of 10 that are already good strong songs. "$" was called "the main dance track on lotusflow3r" by the report on dr funkenberry about the song supposedly leaking when they shot a vid for it. so it's the main dance track for the album and a single to be. must have at least *some* merit then, lol. what's left is 'love like jazz', described as "cocktail jazz", which could go in all kinds of directions since prince's jazz efforts from the past decade have been very entertaining and solid. and exactly what one person considers "cocktail" jazz is probably another one's jazz fusion dreamscape. we'll have to wait and see. i'm not having a panic attack over this track not being well worth it. remains "77 beverly place" which i know nothing about i don't
think anyone described it yet so it can be anything. but right now, i'm thinking it might be a continuation of "3121" since it's the 2nd song about his adress in a short time. add to that a sprinkly of weird cosmic sounding segues, probably not unlike the bg music on the lotusflower site or the music that was on the short trailer clip on the tv (before turn me loose replaced it), and you've got one happy camper right here, waiting for tuesday. however, i do believe that a lot of people are getting their hopes up far too high for MPLSoUND right now. it's probably good but it won't be a new 1999. these people reviewing it state that TNBALM or CB are stand out tracks. they're nice fun tracks but they are more like the stuff on chocolate invasion/slaughterhouse than anything that is to be found on controversy imo. but we'll have to wait and see. and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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mushmackalenta said: These aren't proper reviews.
You can never judge an Album on one or two listens. Sometimes it takes years. | |
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Yeah, ok...I'll check it out for myself. | |
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realm said: mushmackalenta said: These aren't proper reviews.
You can never judge an Album on one or two listens. Sometimes it takes years. Indeed! "That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32 | |
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IstenSzek said: [lots of stuff and...]
however, i do believe that a lot of people are getting their hopes up far too high for MPLSoUND right now. it's probably good but it won't be a new 1999. these people reviewing it state that TNBALM or CB are stand out tracks. they're nice fun tracks but they are more like the stuff on chocolate invasion/slaughterhouse than anything that is to be found on controversy imo. but we'll have to wait and see. My thoughts exactly "That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32 | |
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IstenSzek said: what we know from lotusflow3r:
crimson and clover wall of berlin colonized mind forever feel good, feel better, feel wonderful (partly) what we heard about others: dreamer boom the ones we've all heard are imo very healthy sounding songs that seem to indicate that despite reports and rumors the album does have a very distinct vibe. kinda like TRC had or TGE had. both were guitar heavy, but also had funk or dance tracks and some general weirdness. we haven't all heard "boom" and "dreamer" but they seem to continue in the same vein if reports are correct that they are both rocking guitar tracks. a few non-guitar based tracks, like some bass/synth/drum tracks or one or two jazzy cuts with a bit of brass would lift the album up and make it more breezy. so overall, this sounds like an incredibly good album to me, especially since i like all 5 of the tracks that we've heard this far. add to that the unanimous love for "boom" and "dreamer" from all those who have had the pleasure of hearing it live or on record and you've got 7 out of 10 that are already good strong songs. "$" was called "the main dance track on lotusflow3r" by the report on dr funkenberry about the song supposedly leaking when they shot a vid for it. so it's the main dance track for the album and a single to be. must have at least *some* merit then, lol. what's left is 'love like jazz', described as "cocktail jazz", which could go in all kinds of directions since prince's jazz efforts from the past decade have been very entertaining and solid. and exactly what one person considers "cocktail" jazz is probably another one's jazz fusion dreamscape. we'll have to wait and see. i'm not having a panic attack over this track not being well worth it. remains "77 beverly place" which i know nothing about i don't
think anyone described it yet so it can be anything. but right now, i'm thinking it might be a continuation of "3121" since it's the 2nd song about his adress in a short time. add to that a sprinkly of weird cosmic sounding segues, probably not unlike the bg music on the lotusflower site or the music that was on the short trailer clip on the tv (before turn me loose replaced it), and you've got one happy camper right here, waiting for tuesday. however, i do believe that a lot of people are getting their hopes up far too high for MPLSoUND right now. it's probably good but it won't be a new 1999. these people reviewing it state that TNBALM or CB are stand out tracks. they're nice fun tracks but they are more like the stuff on chocolate invasion/slaughterhouse than anything that is to be found on controversy imo. but we'll have to wait and see. Very well said... The greatest live performer of our times was is and always will be Prince.
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Rorywan said: Strange thing is, everyone here on the Org has heard quite a few tracks from both albums. The response has been almost universally positive. There has been very little bitchin about the tracks. Which is great compared to the negativity that surrounded Planet Earth. Not sure anyone has pointed this out, but we all like the so-far released tracks, don't we? That hasn't happened in a long time.
So screw the reviewer, I think P has gotten this one right. I love the sound of Mplsound and Lotusflow3r. (Sorry Bria) I think those of us who think the stuff is "meh" have shut up until getting to hear the rest. Why continue to dog something once you've stated your opinion? I recently had reason to go back through his old output (compilation for a friend) and it really pointed out how mediocre what I have heard SO far is. Again - I want to hear the rest before I knock or praise anything. It's more of the same to me so far, good playing skills backed by so so songwriting - and I mean compared to MANY other people at this point (not just his material) and pretty meager production. I can't help but think he needs someone stopping him at a point and saying that is great NOW, so leave it alone. Or - "really?". I certainly would want some people like that if I had attained the status he has. No one is capable of being on the money every time. You need friends to keep your head and creativity in check. I feel his "friends" are all on the payroll.. Could be wrong, but that's my gut. Speaking up for those who DON'T like all the tracks so far. Which I thought was a rather weird assumption. |
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Zannaloaf said: Rorywan said: Strange thing is, everyone here on the Org has heard quite a few tracks from both albums. The response has been almost universally positive. There has been very little bitchin about the tracks. Which is great compared to the negativity that surrounded Planet Earth. Not sure anyone has pointed this out, but we all like the so-far released tracks, don't we? That hasn't happened in a long time.
So screw the reviewer, I think P has gotten this one right. I love the sound of Mplsound and Lotusflow3r. (Sorry Bria) I think those of us who think the stuff is "meh" have shut up until getting to hear the rest. Why continue to dog something once you've stated your opinion? I recently had reason to go back through his old output (compilation for a friend) and it really pointed out how mediocre what I have heard SO far is. Again - I want to hear the rest before I knock or praise anything. It's more of the same to me so far, good playing skills backed by so so songwriting - and I mean compared to MANY other people at this point (not just his material) and pretty meager production. I can't help but think he needs someone stopping him at a point and saying that is great NOW, so leave it alone. Or - "really?". I certainly would want some people like that if I had attained the status he has. No one is capable of being on the money every time. You need friends to keep your head and creativity in check. I feel his "friends" are all on the payroll.. Could be wrong, but that's my gut. Speaking up for those who DON'T like all the tracks so far. Which I thought was a rather weird assumption. Thats fair enough, and well put. I would never compare his new stuff to his old classic stuff. I like it as a separate side of Prince music. I still really enjoy it though. The general reaction has been a lot more positive than recent releases hasn't it?  "My God it's full of Stars"
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True, u can't expect the man to do the 80's stuff all over again... he's done all off that! And, yes, I've been 'pleased' by some of his recent stuff on 3121, MUSICOLOGY and Planet Earth. But, I don't know, I feel that these 3 albums are going to be BIGGER that that! Just... GREAT!!! Well, at leased 2 of them  (sorry Bria)
Maybe I'm aiming to high, I hope not... It's time for a new prince album to be played OVER AND OVER again here in my room!  I sooo need it!!! | |
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Can't wait 4 this one, weeeee! | |
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Let´s wait for the album and see. I am definitely getting it. First album in a long time, that I´ll be getting. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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If we all get at least 1 good cd out of this 3 cd set than it would have been worth the $12 bucks. | |
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Just wondering... is anybody waiting to hear that Bria album? I get the feeling that those are going to end up still trapped in plastic for years! [Edited 3/21/09 11:04am] | |
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lotusflower said: Just wondering... is anybody waiting to hear that Bria album?
I get the feeling that those are going to end up still trapped in plastic for years!
[Edited 3/21/09 11:04am] I like that Another Boy song so Im going to play it a lot I'm sure. | |
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Im really not sure Prince did Bria or himself any favours at all when he said we got tired of waiting for Sade to make an album, in fact he shoukd never have mentioned her at all-cuz it was bound to cause comparisons-and like Prince-Sade is a one off-and he really really needed to respect that. He dodn't-now its gonna bite him on the ass for it. Bria is good-talented. But she lacks Sade's special ingredients that make her so good-and its shameful that Prince seems to think its just as easy as thinking''well we'll just do it-how hard can it be.....plainly ALOT harder than he thought. Other than that-all these latest reviews mean nothing to me. I'll make my own mind up-this one is bad as they didn't even seem to actually stop-and listen-which is the idea of hearing stuff for the first time. When I play my stuff to folk the 1st time-im buzzing-if they dared to ignore-chat or heaven ask for a beer-they'd be out on their arse. At least give the music a fair chance. Geez-if thats what reviews have come to-then everyone down my local is a reviewer..... | |
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lotusflower said: ^
True, u can't expect the man to do the 80's stuff all over again... he's done all off that! And, yes, I've been 'pleased' by some of his recent stuff on 3121, MUSICOLOGY and Planet Earth. But, I don't know, I feel that these 3 albums are going to be BIGGER that that! Just... GREAT!!! Well, at leased 2 of them (sorry Bria)
Maybe I'm aiming to high, I hope not... It's time for a new prince album to be played OVER AND OVER again here in my room! I sooo need it!!! and let me clear this up- I am not looking for an 80s album. I am looking for the qualities I liked in that music. Which is what I am missing. And yes- I could go into details, but that's not my point. Can he write a song still, yes. Can he play , yes. Can he sing , yes. Do those add up to what made him interesting to me as an artist? Not in and of themselves. I am not looking for a repeat. I am looking for growth. And I don't really see it. He could play just as well and the same as he does today 25 years ago. He could (imo) write better 25 years ago too. I also really want a Prince album I can want to wear out (for you youngsters that refers to vinyl grooves...LOL). Again- just my opinion. But I also know others who feel the same. |
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Zannaloaf said: lotusflower said: ^
True, u can't expect the man to do the 80's stuff all over again... he's done all off that! And, yes, I've been 'pleased' by some of his recent stuff on 3121, MUSICOLOGY and Planet Earth. But, I don't know, I feel that these 3 albums are going to be BIGGER that that! Just... GREAT!!! Well, at leased 2 of them (sorry Bria)
Maybe I'm aiming to high, I hope not... It's time for a new prince album to be played OVER AND OVER again here in my room! I sooo need it!!! and let me clear this up- I am not looking for an 80s album. I am looking for the qualities I liked in that music. Which is what I am missing. And yes- I could go into details, but that's not my point. Can he write a song still, yes. Can he play , yes. Can he sing , yes. Do those add up to what made him interesting to me as an artist? Not in and of themselves. I am not looking for a repeat. I am looking for growth. And I don't really see it. He could play just as well and the same as he does today 25 years ago. He could (imo) write better 25 years ago too. I also really want a Prince album I can want to wear out (for you youngsters that refers to vinyl grooves...LOL). Again- just my opinion. But I also know others who feel the same. I know what you're saying. Like where is the timeless classic like ADORE, the view on today's society like SIGN O THE TIMES, the selfish I am king rant like MY NAME IS PRINCE (Never be another like me? Please thats hogwash). There is no doubt hes a genius 100 percent. We are just not getting 100 percent genious output. I do believe he may have a creative block. Based on the reviews, but we shall see!  | |
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wow.
i cnt wait to hear the 3 albums myself to make my own opinion. it seems like everybody favors MPLSound hmmmm... judging by the tracks we already have heard. Lotus Flow3r is probably an experimental pop/funk/rock venture with all kinds of screeching guitar riffs,loud drums,and funky bass lines like... Around The World in A Day Sign O' The Times Lovesexy The Rainbow Children and 3121. now in my opinion all of those are good records so Lotus Flow3r should be good. MPLSound is probably a pop/funk/synth venture with vintage prince synthesisers, rubbery bass lines or none @ all and drum machines(probably only linn drum samples becuz he is now using ProTools) like... Dirty Mind Controversy 1999 and Purple Rain. Now in my opinion and i think yours as well, all of these albums are amazing to say the least. Elixer is Bria Valente's first album. now give her a break regardless becuz of that. and u kno how even though its her name on the album, its more or less a Prince record...Think back to Vanity 6 and The Time.. now from the songs we've heard,i reckon her album to be sexy,but not dirty. and sound like... Janet Jackson (early janet) Her Name Speaks 4 its self. so hopefully all 3 will be worth buying and not downloading the bootlegs. im pretty sure everybody will still have a favorite. i,personally,am looking ward to all 3!!! [Edited 3/21/09 15:22pm] [Edited 3/21/09 15:33pm] [Edited 3/21/09 15:36pm] Lookin 4 The Ladder | |
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dipset92 said
Elixer is Bria Valente's first album. now give her a break regardless becuz of that. and u kno how even though its her name on the album, its more or less a Prince record...Think back to Vanity 6 and The Time.. now from the songs we've heard,i reckon her album to be sexy,but not dirty. and a fusion of... Janet Jackson (early janet)Sade The Family (maybe as far as content) India Arie Alicia Keys all of those artists are good at what they do.. I agree with all said in your post but Bria sounds like one Artist only on your list... Janet Jackson (early janet) Anyone who can't hear that must be deaf ..... Janets early sound was all Jam & Lewis anyway...so it's not hard for Prince to do Janet....but Bria can't dance from what i have seen ....but the voice is spot on.... Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
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LondonStyle said: theres only ONE JANET
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Papaj said: LOtUSFLOW3r, which is also the name of Prince's trippy, new intergalactic-themed Web site, sees the artist immersing himself in gentle grooves, slinky-slick vox and psychedelic riffs. Cuts like "Boom," "Colonized Mind" and "Dreamer" have moments of otherworldly, instrumental genius that beg for headphones and a good buzz, but even after two glasses of wine (the gathering was at The Crown Bar) and fully preparing to take a journey, we felt like aliens in a strange land listening to his soundscapes. - Like I said before, I think I will love this album in the same way I loved TRC when I first listened to it. |
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now that u mention it she probably will sound just like Janet frm the Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis/Rhythm Nation days.
thanx for your insite and 4 agreeing my other opinions LondonStyle lol. Lookin 4 The Ladder | |
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salaciousV said: LondonStyle said: theres only ONE JANET
Yeah she a great dancer like her brother but vocal wise....well she's not that hard to beat really..... Bria sounds like she has the voice but of course we need to hear her live to tell ....but from what i've seen she can't dance...could be wrong but i don't think she can dance like janet...she a natural like her brother.... Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
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