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Printable funkteer said: I also went to Madonna's site to see what she charges. Do you know that she has stopped selling the membership that allows pre-sales? That is what I am talking about exclusivity. Why sell more memberships when your hard core fan base already paid for the right to the best seats? Bon Jovi also has a fan site where he charges fees for pre-sales and private shows.
That $25 membership fee Prince charged in 2004 allowed everyone to join, including scalpers. Hard core fans, like us, may have been deprived of the great seats. I did enjoy some GREAT seats, sound checks, and after shows. Downloads don't mean much to me, because from what I know and see, those who want to download music can already do so for free. Well yeah scalpers joined but the way to beat that would be to make us pick up the tickets at roll call and make people enter the show right then like they did during the hit-n-runs. But really ticketbastards is so corrupt (its not P's fault) but tickets that were premium were sold to non-NPGMC members, so you have non-members getting tickets that are just as good as members. In the end these systems just up the prices for premium seats for the scalpers and increase corruption. It's all about supply and demand. | |
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funkteer said: Do you know what we really should start getting upset about? Has anyone been reading about what has been going on with Ticketmaster ripping people off? I really hope that he doesn't use them to sell tickets to his concerts. Now THAT is what will have me bitching.
Well, what I don't like about ticketmaster, is when they have an auction for the best seats at a concert, when customers bid on them. Usually those are the best seats, and if you are ordering tix online/charging them via phone/or at the box office, and choose not to participate in the bid for the best seats, you're often left with the choice of purchasing seats in the higher (further away from the stage) level seats. But apparently artists or whomever represents them agree to that or they wouldn't allow it to happen. I don't know how the process works, but I just don't like the bidding process they use sometimes when selling tickets. [Edited 3/14/09 11:11am] | |
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realm said: funkteer said: I also went to Madonna's site to see what she charges. Do you know that she has stopped selling the membership that allows pre-sales? That is what I am talking about exclusivity. Why sell more memberships when your hard core fan base already paid for the right to the best seats? Bon Jovi also has a fan site where he charges fees for pre-sales and private shows.
That $25 membership fee Prince charged in 2004 allowed everyone to join, including scalpers. Hard core fans, like us, may have been deprived of the great seats. I did enjoy some GREAT seats, sound checks, and after shows. Downloads don't mean much to me, because from what I know and see, those who want to download music can already do so for free. Well yeah scalpers joined but the way to beat that would be to make us pick up the tickets at roll call and make people enter the show right then like they did during the hit-n-runs. But really ticketbastards is so corrupt (its not P's fault) but tickets that were premium were sold to non-NPGMC members, so you have non-members getting tickets that are just as good as members. In the end these systems just up the prices for premium seats for the scalpers and increase corruption. It's all about supply and demand. There are methods to scalpers of course we will never get rid of them ...but there are ways of keeping them out..  Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
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DevotedPuppy said: npggirl77 said: 
Hope it cuts out some of the rantings I read around here.  I'm sure it will, as most of the rants are from crazy fams who I'm guessing will be joining as soon as they can. (Please let there be a lotusflow3r forum!) but if a portion of the $77 goes towards another suave Lawyer what may just happen. No more ranting at the org! No more org! they usually target the unofficial fan sites/forums (that stay more popular than mental institution they run) 6-8 months after opening another official site. That's what the real fans are worried about. Bringing down the .org or other fan sites so fans join the new site! The divide and conquer tactic used in the past. Which IMO really alienated us that do not have a short attention span and is the root of much of the pissyness towards the official sites! As far as I'm concerned this is the official forum of Prince! The only good thing LF3 has to offer is music, tickets. It always amazes me that they can not get a web designer as good as some of the unofficial fan sites. Those sites are created from love for the music. | |
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Anxiety said: people who are fans of sade and kate bush must look at threads like this and just shake their heads in disgust.
 Prolly so. But then again, they don't have Prince's games to contend with.  | |
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realm said: DevotedPuppy said: I'm sure it will, as most of the rants are from crazy fams who I'm guessing will be joining as soon as they can. (Please let there be a lotusflow3r forum!) but if a portion of the $77 goes towards another suave Lawyer what may just happen. No more ranting at the org! No more org! they usually target the unofficial fan sites/forums (that stay more popular than mental institution they run) 6-8 months after opening another official site. That's what the real fans are worried about. Bringing down the .org or other fan sites so fans join the new site! The divide and conquer tactic used in the past. Which IMO really alienated us that do not have a short attention span and is the root of much of the pissyness towards the official sites! As far as I'm concerned this is the official forum of Prince! The only good thing LF3 has to offer is music, tickets. It always amazes me that hey can not get a web designer as good as some of the unofficial fan sites. Those sites are created from love for the music. Hence the price of $77 / £54 is just abit too much and I hope Prince's people consider this and lower the price so it's abit cheaper so fans/fams and people just getting into his music have a chance to join the website.. No one is asking for free...just a fair price... Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
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2elijah said: funkteer said: Do you know what we really should start getting upset about? Has anyone been reading about what has been going on with Ticketmaster ripping people off? I really hope that he doesn't use them to sell tickets to his concerts. Now THAT is what will have me bitching.
Well, what I don't like about ticketmaster, is when they have an auction for the best seats at a concert, when customers bid on them. Usually those are the best seats, and if you are ordering tix online/charging them via phone/or at the box office, and choose not to participate in the bid for the best seats, you're often left with the choice of purchasing seats in the higher (further away from the stage) level seats. But apparently artists or whomever represents them agree to that or they wouldn't allow it to happen. I don't know how the process works, but I just don't like the bidding process they use sometimes when selling tickets. [Edited 3/14/09 11:11am] From what I understand about what TM is doing now, is that the tickets go on sale, and within a few seconds they are "sold out" and you are redirected to another seller that charges thousands of dollars for the same tickets. I hear that several big name artists are taking them to court or will be taking them to court. When the former NYS Governor Spitzer held office, he made this type of thing legal here in NYS. There may be more to this but I haven't had time to read up on it. It has been in the headlines lately because Bruce Springsteen is taking TM on and now I hear Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr are pissed. "It's hard 4 me 2 say what's right when all I want to do is wrong..." | |
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funkteer said: 2elijah said: Well, what I don't like about ticketmaster, is when they have an auction for the best seats at a concert, when customers bid on them. Usually those are the best seats, and if you are ordering tix online/charging them via phone/or at the box office, and choose not to participate in the bid for the best seats, you're often left with the choice of purchasing seats in the higher (further away from the stage) level seats. But apparently artists or whomever represents them agree to that or they wouldn't allow it to happen. I don't know how the process works, but I just don't like the bidding process they use sometimes when selling tickets. [Edited 3/14/09 11:11am] From what I understand about what TM is doing now, is that the tickets go on sale, and within a few seconds they are "sold out" and you are redirected to another seller that charges thousands of dollars for the same tickets. I hear that several big name artists are taking them to court or will be taking them to court. When the former NYS Governor Spitzer held office, he made this type of thing legal here in NYS. There may be more to this but I haven't had time to read up on it. It has been in the headlines lately because Bruce Springsteen is taking TM on and now I hear Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr are pissed. Ticketmaster just seems to feed Ebay. It's all wrong. I'm hot and I don't care who knows it...I got a job to do.  |
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I really wonder if he will tour big time in 2009, meaning a real tour all over the planet... "We are the freaks that want everything now!" | |
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Juize09 said: I really wonder if he will tour big time in 2009, meaning a real tour all over the planet...
He will tour the US at least ....I expect a 21 Nights in New York or Washington...now that MJ's back and doing 50 nights....Prince will be wanted more by non-prince fans in the US ..so the US will get big gig's ...LA will be first as he's already said in his email.. Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
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Juize09 said: I really wonder if he will tour big time in 2009, meaning a real tour all over the planet...
We will prolly hear more soon but don't you believe they would be pumping the rumor of a world tour if one was in the works?? To hype the site? | |
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$77 for one year subscription to the site !!! 
SORRY BUT IT WILL B WITHOUT ME !  I'll die in your arms under the cherry moon... | |
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GNS said: TwiliteKid said: In such a hurry to dismiss others and you couldn't be more wrong! The piece linked to in this thread is on one of the NEWSWEEK blogs, not in the magazine itself. They regularly use those blogs as teasers for the full article in the print edition, and that's exactly what they've done here. You should try knowing what you're talking about before you post. It'll work out better for everyone. In such a hurry to have something viable to say. Did you bother to read koolmuziq's post? Do that, then get back to me. It'll work out better for you.  Koolmuziq's post is correct. The blog post is a teaser for the complete article, which will reveal more details about the site. He/she is not suggesting that there will be back-to-back pieces in the magazine itself. That would be your own poor reading comprehension coming in to play there.[Snip - Mars23] | |
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TwiliteKid said:[quote] GNS said: In such a hurry to have something viable to say. Did you bother to read koolmuziq's post? Do that, then get back to me. It'll work out better for you. Koolmuziq's post is correct. The blog post is a teaser for the complete article, which will reveal more details about the site. He/she is not suggesting that there will be back-to-back pieces in the magazine itself. That would be your own poor reading comprehension coming in to play there. [Snip - Mars23] 
Whatever gets you thru the night. But I'd watch it with the name calling.  | |
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realm said: DevotedPuppy said: I'm sure it will, as most of the rants are from crazy fams who I'm guessing will be joining as soon as they can. (Please let there be a lotusflow3r forum!) but if a portion of the $77 goes towards another suave Lawyer what may just happen. No more ranting at the org! No more org! they usually target the unofficial fan sites/forums (that stay more popular than mental institution they run) 6-8 months after opening another official site. That's what the real fans are worried about. Bringing down the .org or other fan sites so fans join the new site! The divide and conquer tactic used in the past. Which IMO really alienated us that do not have a short attention span and is the root of much of the pissyness towards the official sites! As far as I'm concerned this is the official forum of Prince! The only good thing LF3 has to offer is music, tickets. It always amazes me that they can not get a web designer as good as some of the unofficial fan sites. Those sites are created from love for the music. I totally hear what you are saying. As much as some people on the org annoy me, at the same time I have made some good pals. I do NOT want to see the org go down by any means. However, for me to be able to go to a more exclusive site means that I might be able to read up on more positive opinions and so forth. But the org still has my heart in many ways. I have met great people on here... -you ain't funky at all, you just a little ol' prude! | |
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blacksweat said: npggirl77 said: Trust me dear. I think very clearly. The people that I do not want to have access to the site, personally, are the people who are always here whining. I HOPE all the true fans can access that site for that price! Nothing was ever said at all about me NOT wanting true fans to be able to access the site. So, in case your brain is not functioning correctly I will say it again. Exclusive=good. If it will cut out some of the RANTINGS I read around here. Intelligent opinions are always welcome. But whining and complaing about everything (sorta like you do) no thanks...I'd rather do without. So before you go talking out of your ass again, read what I said..and don't put words into my mouth.   -you ain't funky at all, you just a little ol' prude! | |
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If the average CD price is $16 ($13- $19) Prince sells his CD for $12 (or any price thereabout), that's at least a savings,discount of $4 for each CD bought.
In the instance of the upcoming release, it's 3 @$16 =$48-$12 (sales price) =$36 savings. The $77 dollars seems more than reasonable. Any additional/potential savings on other content is frosting. | |
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jill4life said: If the average CD price is $16 ($13- $19) Prince sells his CD for $12 (or any price thereabout), that's at least a savings,discount of $4 for each CD bought.
In the instance of the upcoming release, it's 3 @$16 =$48-$12 (sales price) =$36 savings. The $77 dollars seems more than reasonable. Any additional/potential savings on other content is frosting. I'll die in your arms under the cherry moon... | |
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saafiir said: jill4life said: If the average CD price is $16 ($13- $19) Prince sells his CD for $12 (or any price thereabout), that's at least a savings,discount of $4 for each CD bought.
In the instance of the upcoming release, it's 3 @$16 =$48-$12 (sales price) =$36 savings. The $77 dollars seems more than reasonable. Any additional/potential savings on other content is frosting. What? My head hurts. [Edited 3/14/09 13:09pm] | |
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2elijah said: FlamingRaindrop said: VERY, Very good point, I hope this point gets adressed amongst the Obama/Hitler obsessive-like fanfare... What does this have to do with Obama? Or Hitler? | |
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Anxiety said: LiveToTell86 said: Papaj said:  I love it!!!!!
3 videos? WOW I didn't expect that! what is up with that bird??? That's a rare species called "Flaminneapolingus". Very few have been spotted in the area of Twin City. | |
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mritchey said: I seem to remember paying $25 for a 'lifetime' membership to npgmusicclub.com at one point. That didn't last anywhere near a lifetime. Hope $77 makes it for a whole year.
it was 100 bux and it did last an npgmc lifetime so don't trip To Sir, with Love | |
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Shango said: Anxiety said: what is up with that bird??? That's a rare species called "Flaminneapolingus". Very few have been spotted in the area of Twin City. That bird is what you the user of the site has to plug in to go from one section to another while exploring. That I remember from the presentation we saw. To Sir, with Love | |
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FlamingRaindrop said: purplecam said: Then they better save up their money like I did so that they can become a member. We've had an idea that this might be the price of membership for this website for 2 months now, so for fans here to act shocked and surprised over this is laughable & I have NO sympathy for you at all. If the price drops, then it drops but this is what it is so suck it up and pay up or don't join at all. Case closed. The real fool in here is YOU. Don't hate on me cause I got the money. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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IM GLAD BUT DAMN...77 DOLLARS!
lol thats like 55 pounds | |
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$77/£54/€60 is hardly a fortune is it? £1 a week - if the sub lasts a year. There was an article about lotuflow3r.com saying there would be videos of previous concerts.
If $77 is going to keep scalpers out, that's not going to work... MJ tix are already selling for 4 times the face value... so a scalper will get his $77 back on 1 ticket! Until we know what's in store for the sub fee, I can't understand anyone's complaining round here. If you can't afford £1 a week you'd better become a scalper... somehow!! We ain't from Hollywood, so you know it's all good | |
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DevotedPuppy said: 2elijah said: What does this have to do with Obama? Or Hitler? Exactly, and the comparison to say the least. [Edited 3/14/09 14:27pm] | |
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purplecam said: FlamingRaindrop said: dO YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE WORLD? i GUESS NOT. FOOL!
The real fool in here is YOU. Don't hate on me cause I got the money. :lol:Purp, it's your money. No one is putting a gun to anyone's head and forcing them to shell out the money. If you can afford and it's not stealing a meal off your table, then go for it, if you choose to do so. It's your money, and despite the various comments both negative/positive about the membership fee, no one has a right to tell you what to do with your money. I'll be damned if anyone tells me how to spend mine. [Edited 3/14/09 14:50pm] | |
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catpark said: L4OATheOriginal said: honestly, i never fleshed out the npgmc site cause i knew that free speech truly wasn't allowed there moan? hmmmm lol .. man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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Who would have thought that getting some kind of info on a new Prince site would cause this much chaos and disorder? I thought we wanted Prince back on the web? Both sides of the issue make valid points but one thing is true that I think we all can agree on. We really don't know what's coming with this site. We know some things and we don't know some things. I can't speak for everyone but I hope we get a lot more from this site than the previous ones. I'm going into this knowing how fickle Prince is and if there isn't a lot of material on there then that's on me but I'm going to join this website cause I want to see what Prince is doing & to be a part of it too. That's all. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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