NWF said:

How concerts ahve u been 2?

Graycap23 said:

Um...

I think you're trying to ask how many concerts I've been to, and the answer is only one. But that doesn't matter since I..um...have seen pretty much all of Prince and the Revolution's performances. And they are absolutely sublime.

Also, The Revolution had personality. You really got to know them and appreciate them, unlike Prince's subsequent bands.

What I like about the Revolution as a band most, is they had their own sensibility about the music....
We know DR Fink had a hand in some tunes, Dirty Mind, Controversy,
We know Wendy and Lisa had a hand on Purple Rain.

I just think that if we didn't have their sensibilities we would have got to the Jughead & Poom Poom style of music a lot sooner, and he would never have been what we know him to be.
Lets face it, no matter what the Fams here say,..... outside you orgers, nobody cares for post 88 Prince music.
He sells out concerts because of his 80's reputation, ....and that was with the Revolution for the most part.

NWF said:

Ok, well I have been to too many Prince concerts to count and he has made similar comments about EVERY band that he has had. I can't watch the Revolution performances outside of the ones in the film Purple Rain, because they are just not as tight as Prince's other bands. Also, the funk just wasn't there. I can watch SOTT, LoveSexy, One Nite Alone and Musicology performances over and over again, because the music alone is tight as all get out.

I have the Purple Rain tour and the 1986 birthday concert and those are the live performances that I rarely watch. I just don't see the personality that you are talking about. The pre-Revolution lineup with Dez, Andre and Prince upfront had more personality and the SOTT/Lovesexy Bands were off the charts in terms of personality with the Cat/Prince dynamic alone, then add Sheila into the mix and it's over. Maybe you should check out some of the live performances with the other bands for a better frame of reference.

Bellanoche said:
That said, this quote is laughable to me coming from Lenny Kravitz. Whose music, though I have two of his albums, is quite contrived and plastic to me. His "rawness" is often forced. Again, that's just my opinion.

I have to agree with you on this. When I first saw that, i was like "Hold Up". I love Lenny to death, but most of his music to me sounds like '60's rock and some 70's funk. I don't have all his cds yet, but I plan on getting them. I like that type of music, but I don't think he does the variety of styles as prince does. (Not that he couldn't)

maybe in 2009: the 25th Purple Rain anniversary. it would be great to relive that golden time. i hope so.

i have mixed feelings about a revolution 'comeback.' they'd all look cheesy and forgive me, old up there together. don't get me wrong, if it would happen, it would be a treat, but i don't think it will happen.

prince has moved on.

but it would be cool if he would get together with some of the former revolution members and produce some music together; i think it would get a lot of support.

Yes why not.

In my opinion they were far better than the first incarnation of the NPG. but not subsequent NPG's.

listening to bootlegs like 'Neon Rendevous' (a studio rehearsal from 84 which is awesome, so raw) and 7th St Entry, makes me realise how much i love the Revolution, by the time of Parade, they were consumate musicians, I'd like a one off gig one day, but just a one off.

NWF said:

The point is.....Prince says that about ALL of his bands at the time they are playing.

squirrelgrease said:

no he wasn't he was on point

and 4 this hope of dreams question ..FUCK NO ..i would never want 2 hear or c another revolution reunion..damn the NPG is way funkier!!!!! give me a reunion of the NPG from the Gold Experience and instead of Tommy, u can put Dr fink in.

the last time wendy and lisa collabarated with prince, we got that bullshit planet earth..so there u have it, this is where they r at musically ..pure CRAP!!!

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NWF said:

The Pre-Revolution band was AWESOME. Now for that reunion I will pay top dollars to see. Can you imagine, Dez, Andre and Prince back together again, even for one night only. Awww man.

Do I think it will happen? Probably not...Prince has gone off the deep end and seems more interested in fighting an online war then building shinning a light on his musical legacy (which included The Revolution).

but hey, a thread like this is a great opportunity for folks to let out all that pent up frustration they have, so, cool beans.

sosgemini said:

so you think Prince not doing reunions has to do with his fight with the Internet?

I thought everybody was tired of "the hitz" anywayz?

wonder505 said:

how did you draw that conclusion?

sexxydancer said:

why would it be anymore or less a "hitz" show then it already is?

the largo/COED jam sessions that involved sheila, wendy, lisa, kat and others are examples of the approach P could take.....but like i said before, let the years and years of frustration be let out within this thread.

sosgemini said:

that's kind of how I read your statement, but its probably a misinterpretation. I just think Prince is simply not interested in a Revolution reunion, whether he was fighting his videos-pics on the Internet or not.

bellanoche said:

well said and on point

NWF said:

" CAN'T NOBODY FUCK WITH MY BAND" -PRINCE 1988 TIL 1998

"NPG FUNKY AS WE WANT 2 B" -PRINCE TIL PRESENT

and that says what?

NWF said:

the period u quote about the parade era in regards 2 ur comment, lacks the main reason there was soul in that band ..ERIC LEEDS AND ATLANTA BLISS..oh wait he RETAINED them 4 the SOTT/Lovesexy tour and fink but everyone else was ..ASSED OUT

NWF said:

u need 2 check out the npg gold experience band ..they run circles around the revolution ..and as 4 personality? u can't have a more dynamic presence than sonny t, michael b and mr. hayes

The Revolution is one of the biggest, most bad-ass funk groups in the history of music. The band stands tall in history along with P-funk, Booker T. & The MGs, Sly & The Family Stone , The JB's etc. Prince made his best music with this group.
I like things not to be perfect, because the music gets boring when everything is equally smooth & tight. I think music should be like the human voice. Bobby Z. just does his job and does it very well, although I like Sheila E. better (especially on the SOTT tour). John Blackwell kicked ass too. All the bassplayers have been great in my opinion, but again: Brown Mark could've played with Prince forever. Renato Neto is a boring player with a cheesy taste, and he never does anything you wouldnt expect in comparison to the more experimental Lisa. Matt Fink isnt called the Dr. for nothing: the guy is incredibly technical and funky. Wendy is an terrific rhythm guitarist with her very own style & personality. Actually, that's what I miss with the NPG: a style of their own & personality. I also miss the rawness in the NPG, that the Revolution had. Wendy & Lisa also helped Prince move in interesting & different directions (helped him discover psychedelia & suspended chords for example). So did Eric Leeds (he hipped him to jazz!).

Prince's baddest live shows were in the 80s, his most creative years.
He was really breaking ground with this band back then, although he still did almost everything by himself.

sexxydancer said:

i am regardless of what band pulls out his butt...time 2 move on muscially and artistically and 4 those that don't like that ..oh well ..

"...they built a digitial garden" .."they were kicked 2 the curb"...

He who lives in the PAST
Cast shadows that no one can SEE
A reunion with the Revolution
Would blind all.....
I've move on 2 the N.P.G.

Prince should reunite with the Revolution one more time. It would be great to hear some reworked unreleased jams like “Witness” along with some new stuff. It would certainly work now with most of the current producers sampling and covering 80’s music.

Why not step up one more time and show the youngsters how it’s really done.

Graycap23 said:

you mean like the majority of concerts consisting of hit shows? or the majority of your songs being retreads of previously better versions of the same songs?

sosgemini said:

Lol.....band makeup ONLY.

It will happen someday. They will perform the whole Trilogy of Purple Rain, ATWIAD and Parade. Maybe the band could be extended to the "Counter-Revolution" as in 1986, with Miko, Eric etc.

I would love to see a reunion. That was his best band to me!

and 4 those revolution dreamers


http://prince.org/msg/7/262647