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PrintableI think it all comes down to this: We like what we like. There are people here who like everything he's done. There are people here who only like a couple of Prince's albums. It's all good either way. One thing is true, his music strikes a cord in us, for better or for worse. As long as he's making music, it'll always be this way. That's a major reason why we are here on prince.org. It's all about the music and that's why I've enjoyed this thread. I just hope that the next CD is one that we can all enjoy and continue to have big discussions and debates on. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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tricky99 said: ButterscotchPimp said: Well there's a couple of issues. Sure you can't strip the "genius" label from someone like Albert Einstein. I think you can in reference to musicians. I mean you can certainly look at artists like Miles Davis and Stevie Wonder and refer to a point in their career where they clearly turned a corner and lost the magic so to speak. Prince certainly falls in that category. Maybe if i have some time later on today, i'll dissect an album or 2 to reinforce my point that Prince hasn't made a really solid album in at least 10 or so, with the exception being TRC. cool, but why single out musicians? I would never "strip" genius from Stevie just because I wasn't satisfied with his later work. Nobody in any field of endevour maintains peak perforamnce for the duration of a career. The need to bring them down seems terribly silly. Why ever call anyone a genius in the first place if its temporary? And why can't u strip it from Einstein? I'm sure he slipped from his peak too. tell me where in your lifetime u have heard someone refered to has "former genius" so-and-so. I single out musicians because it's what i pay most attention to, music. I work in the music business, music is the biggest part of my life. I'm sure i could whip out some actors that probably fall into that category as well. I can separate a man from his art. I can look at Stevie Wonder's work in the 70's and appreciate it for how truly amazing it was and in the same vein listen to the stuff he's done since then and wonder what went horribly wrong. Sure, the pundits and critics who will eulogize Stevie at the end of his life will label him a "genius" and "trend-setter" but i promise you there won't be ANY clips of his music in the 90's. So is that "genius"? Or maybe it was a good run? I mentioned Miles Davis already as a classic example of that. When Miles died, of course the world paid tribute to his considerable contributions to music. But again, did they honor those last couple of records he did? Nope. Same thing is going to happen to Prince. He had a tremendous run. Longer than most. Much longer than Stevie's for sure. But in the end, will people really remember "Black Sweat"? And that's me being kind. Because if i pay attention to New Power Soul or Rave i start to throw up in my mouth a little bit. The Rainbow Children was the ONLY album to me that he's made in the last 10 years or so that was remotely memorable. Because music-wise he wasn't TRYING to make "hits". He wasn't trying to get into the spotlight. He wasn't TRYING to be relevant again. He just made music. When he's at his best. http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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squirrelgrease said: I guess its the case of the glass being half-full as opposed to being half-empty.
For You - Glass Half Full ... yes Prince - Glass Half Full ... yes Dirty Mind - Glass Full ...yep Controversy - Glass Full ... I see 3/4 1999 - Glass Overflowin' ... yep Purple Rain - Glass Full To The Rim ... it is Around The World In A Day - Glass Full ... yep Parade - Glass Full ... yes Sign O´ The Times - Glass Runneth Over ... yes Lovesexy - Glass Full ... its full Batman - Glass Damn Near Full ... its 3/4 Graffiti Bridge - Glass Half Full ... slighly more than half. Diamonds And Pearls - Glass Has A Couple Of Drops Left In It ... its half full  - Glass Has A Couple Of Drops Left In It ... its half full
Come - Glass Half Empty ... yes Black Album - Glass Really Full ...its 3/4 Gold - Glass Half Full ... at least Chaos And Disorder - Glass 3/4 Full ... its half empty Emancipation - Glass Half Empty ... overhyped but half full at least. Crystal Ball - Glass Full ... yes The Truth - Glass 7/8 Full ...yes The Vault... Old Friends 4 Sale - Glass Full ... half empty Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic - Glass Half Empty... yes Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic - Glass Half Full ... yep The Rainbow Children - Glass 3/4 Full ... yep One Nite Alone - Glass Completely Full ... havn't seen this glass One Nite Alone... Live! - Glass Running On Empty ... as above The Aftershow: It Ain't Over! - Glass Half Empty ... as above Xpectation - Glass Full ... yes C-Note - Glass Full ... glass no see N.E.W.S - Glass Full ... as above The Chocolate Invasion - as above The Slaughterhouse - as above Musicology - Glass Empty ... glass 1/4 empty 3121 - Glass Damn Near Empty ... glass half full Planet Earth - Glass Empty I tend to agree with many of those. [Edited 1/19/08 5:21am] | |
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L4OATheOriginal said:[quote] purplecam said: See I don't have a problem with people thinking an album sucks ass but I do have a problem with people coming up here calling me crazy and pathetic for liking everything Prince releases. That includes acting like their opinion is THE TRUTH when it's just an opinion. We like what we like and we shouldn't be dogged for that on a fansite devoted to that person who's CD(s) we enjoy. That's a major reason why a fansite like this even exists. That self-righteous, snobby attitude is part of why the Purple World is divided as it is. That attitude is also with some of the fans who can see no wrong too but I see it more with those who think he hasn't released a "decent" record since the 20th century.
[Edited 1/16/08 9:42am] i hear what ur saying cause it does bother me somewhat when people think just cause he's added a flavor of hip hop 2 his music that it's all pure crap. or that since the revolution broke up there hasn't been any good jams or albums since. i put myself in this as well as where i feel he needs 2 get a certain linuep of the npg back and kick that ass, but i try 2 chalk it up 2 as one being nostalgic and not wanting 2 progress forward. if it seems at times i'm being a "hater", then it's in their view as opposed 2 wanting this man's music that i have enjoyed 4 close 2 25 years 2 keep moving forward instead of reliving a certain time of his career. hence my opposing of his setlits in his shows. we all need 2 move forward with our lives and music is the same in this regard Im a longtime Prince fan since 1984 and I would say sure some of the oppinions I have expressed may be affected by nostalgia. I have never said Prince has not put out anything decenbt since a certain date. What i have said is that I feel there was a period where there was a lot of consistancy in albums then ater that less consistancy. I agree withg the initial post that people can get too negative and extreme as I think for the majority of Prince career in any given field or the other, album, performance, he has been a genius and if anyone can only see that as being relevant for maybe a couple years of his career then I wonder why they are a prince fan. To balance things out a bit reality of human nature people have albums they like more or less and will say so. [Edited 1/19/08 5:02am] | |
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ButterscotchPimp said: tricky99 said: cool, but why single out musicians? I would never "strip" genius from Stevie just because I wasn't satisfied with his later work. Nobody in any field of endevour maintains peak perforamnce for the duration of a career. The need to bring them down seems terribly silly. Why ever call anyone a genius in the first place if its temporary? And why can't u strip it from Einstein? I'm sure he slipped from his peak too. tell me where in your lifetime u have heard someone refered to has "former genius" so-and-so. I single out musicians because it's what i pay most attention to, music. I work in the music business, music is the biggest part of my life. I'm sure i could whip out some actors that probably fall into that category as well. I can separate a man from his art. I can look at Stevie Wonder's work in the 70's and appreciate it for how truly amazing it was and in the same vein listen to the stuff he's done since then and wonder what went horribly wrong. Sure, the pundits and critics who will eulogize Stevie at the end of his life will label him a "genius" and "trend-setter" but i promise you there won't be ANY clips of his music in the 90's. So is that "genius"? Or maybe it was a good run? I mentioned Miles Davis already as a classic example of that. When Miles died, of course the world paid tribute to his considerable contributions to music. But again, did they honor those last couple of records he did? Nope. Same thing is going to happen to Prince. He had a tremendous run. Longer than most. Much longer than Stevie's for sure. But in the end, will people really remember "Black Sweat"? And that's me being kind. Because if i pay attention to New Power Soul or Rave i start to throw up in my mouth a little bit. The Rainbow Children was the ONLY album to me that he's made in the last 10 years or so that was remotely memorable. Because music-wise he wasn't TRYING to make "hits". He wasn't trying to get into the spotlight. He wasn't TRYING to be relevant again. He just made music. When he's at his best. that's just the ways of this world that we live in tho. people and the media always will focus on just one time period never giving that artist or the public the due respect 4 contining 2 craft their art after a certain time. 4 me putting on black sweat is just as equally funky as if i put on something from the 80's. man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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OskarKristio2 said:[quote] L4OATheOriginal said: purplecam said: See I don't have a problem with people thinking an album sucks ass but I do have a problem with people coming up here calling me crazy and pathetic for liking everything Prince releases. That includes acting like their opinion is THE TRUTH when it's just an opinion. We like what we like and we shouldn't be dogged for that on a fansite devoted to that person who's CD(s) we enjoy. That's a major reason why a fansite like this even exists. That self-righteous, snobby attitude is part of why the Purple World is divided as it is. That attitude is also with some of the fans who can see no wrong too but I see it more with those who think he hasn't released a "decent" record since the 20th century.
[Edited 1/16/08 9:42am] i hear what ur saying cause it does bother me somewhat when people think just cause he's added a flavor of hip hop 2 his music that it's all pure crap. or that since the revolution broke up there hasn't been any good jams or albums since. i put myself in this as well as where i feel he needs 2 get a certain linuep of the npg back and kick that ass, but i try 2 chalk it up 2 as one being nostalgic and not wanting 2 progress forward. if it seems at times i'm being a "hater", then it's in their view as opposed 2 wanting this man's music that i have enjoyed 4 close 2 25 years 2 keep moving forward instead of reliving a certain time of his career. hence my opposing of his setlits in his shows. we all need 2 move forward with our lives and music is the same in this regard Im a longtime Prince fan since 1984 and I would say sure some of the oppinions I have expressed may be affected by nostalgia. I have never said Prince has not put out anything decenbt since a certain date. What i have said is that I feel there was a period where there was a lot of consistancy in albums then ater that less consistancy. I agree withg the initial post that people can get too negative and extreme as I think for the majority of Prince career in any given field or the other, album, performance, he has been a genius and if anyone can only see that as being relevant for maybe a couple years of his career then I wonder why they are a prince fan. To balance things out a bit reality of human nature people have albums they like more or less and will say so. [Edited 1/19/08 5:02am] that's y i hold ATWIAD close 2 my heart 4 the fact that when i 1st listened 2 it i hated it. but a few days later came back 2 it cause it was wrong of me 2 xpect another purple rain type album. prince and every other artist once they have a hit album has the right 2 grow in their music. if u don't like it that's fine but 2 say there hasn't been great albums or songs since a certain period and blast others 4 liking it is truly wrong. look i can't stand PE and there r those that love it. that's fine 4 them but doesn't mean that there aren't songs on there that i like (only 2 tho). it still doesn't take away that the man's music has evolved 4 better or 4 worse. it's still evolving. man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: ButterscotchPimp said: I single out musicians because it's what i pay most attention to, music. I work in the music business, music is the biggest part of my life. I'm sure i could whip out some actors that probably fall into that category as well. I can separate a man from his art. I can look at Stevie Wonder's work in the 70's and appreciate it for how truly amazing it was and in the same vein listen to the stuff he's done since then and wonder what went horribly wrong. Sure, the pundits and critics who will eulogize Stevie at the end of his life will label him a "genius" and "trend-setter" but i promise you there won't be ANY clips of his music in the 90's. So is that "genius"? Or maybe it was a good run? I mentioned Miles Davis already as a classic example of that. When Miles died, of course the world paid tribute to his considerable contributions to music. But again, did they honor those last couple of records he did? Nope. Same thing is going to happen to Prince. He had a tremendous run. Longer than most. Much longer than Stevie's for sure. But in the end, will people really remember "Black Sweat"? And that's me being kind. Because if i pay attention to New Power Soul or Rave i start to throw up in my mouth a little bit. The Rainbow Children was the ONLY album to me that he's made in the last 10 years or so that was remotely memorable. Because music-wise he wasn't TRYING to make "hits". He wasn't trying to get into the spotlight. He wasn't TRYING to be relevant again. He just made music. When he's at his best. that's just the ways of this world that we live in tho. people and the media always will focus on just one time period never giving that artist or the public the due respect 4 contining 2 craft their art after a certain time. 4 me putting on black sweat is just as equally funky as if i put on something from the 80's. It's not a "respect" thing to notice that someone's quality of work has diminished severly over the years. Sure, YOU think that "Black Sweat" is as funky as anything Prince did in the 80's, but most people (myself included) think that "Black Sweat" is a SPOOF of his former work. It's not people wanting to give Stevie a lack of "respect" by noticing that he hasn't made anything in the neighborhood of the quality of an "Innervisions" in 20 years. That's a FACT. http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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my 2 cents
i liked his last records .. maybe not everything ... but this makes a good playlist .... Musicology Te Amo Corazon The One You Wanna C Call My Name Future Baby Mama Beautiful, Loved and Blessed Dear Mr. Man Black Sweat Get On The Boat Chelsea Rodgers 3121 F.U.N.K. Reflection Planet Earth | |
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For me, Prince always has some very good songs. I like all his albums.
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tricky99 said: purplecam said:  Bart you are one funny character. Unlike you, I don't frequent fansites of people whose music I haven't like in 10 plus years.10 years? I think its been more than that. What's this "strange relationship we hold on to" indeed. I see, desperately trying to avoid answering. A simple question: how come Prince barely promoted any album he has released in the past decade or so? Another simple question: how come other musicians don't play cover versions of Prince's latest music, if it really is as great as you claim it is? © Bart Van Hemelen
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ButterscotchPimp said: The Rainbow Children was the ONLY album to me that he's made in the last 10 years or so that was remotely memorable. Because music-wise he wasn't TRYING to make "hits". He wasn't trying to get into the spotlight. He wasn't TRYING to be relevant again. He just made music.
RC = muso crap + religious baloney. Plenty of artists go through a phase where they decide to show off their skills and end up falling flat on their faces. © Bart Van Hemelen
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ButterscotchPimp said: L4OATheOriginal said: that's just the ways of this world that we live in tho. people and the media always will focus on just one time period never giving that artist or the public the due respect 4 contining 2 craft their art after a certain time. 4 me putting on black sweat is just as equally funky as if i put on something from the 80's. It's not a "respect" thing to notice that someone's quality of work has diminished severly over the years. Sure, YOU think that "Black Sweat" is as funky as anything Prince did in the 80's, but most people (myself included) think that "Black Sweat" is a SPOOF of his former work. It's not people wanting to give Stevie a lack of "respect" by noticing that he hasn't made anything in the neighborhood of the quality of an "Innervisions" in 20 years. That's a FACT. well i'm not the ONLY one that thinks black sweat is funky and not a SPOOF. and what the hell do u want a musician 2 do, keep singing about the times that were the 70's or 80's? yeah let's hear a 50ish year old man keep singing about doing his sister or about ronald regan ..yeah that's real mature 4 an artist. if u want 2 keep living in that time period that's YOUR choice and how YOU hold an artists musical range. man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: ButterscotchPimp said: It's not a "respect" thing to notice that someone's quality of work has diminished severly over the years. Sure, YOU think that "Black Sweat" is as funky as anything Prince did in the 80's, but most people (myself included) think that "Black Sweat" is a SPOOF of his former work. It's not people wanting to give Stevie a lack of "respect" by noticing that he hasn't made anything in the neighborhood of the quality of an "Innervisions" in 20 years. That's a FACT. well i'm not the ONLY one that thinks black sweat is funky and not a SPOOF. and what the hell do u want a musician 2 do, keep singing about the times that were the 70's or 80's? yeah let's hear a 50ish year old man keep singing about doing his sister or about ronald regan ..yeah that's real mature 4 an artist. if u want 2 keep living in that time period that's YOUR choice and how YOU hold an artists musical range. You need to get out of my head!  Unfortunately, there are a lot of people here who want to stay in 1988 with Prince. I say let em. It's their loss.I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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BartVanHemelen said: tricky99 said: 10 years? I think its been more than that. What's this "strange relationship we hold on to" indeed. I see, desperately trying to avoid answering. A simple question: how come Prince barely promoted any album he has released in the past decade or so? Another simple question: how come other musicians don't play cover versions of Prince's latest music, if it really is as great as you claim it is? People have covered Britney Spears's "Baby One More Time", does that make the song great? I don't need a cover band covering someone to know if a song is great or not. That's a silly argument right there. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: ButterscotchPimp said: It's not a "respect" thing to notice that someone's quality of work has diminished severly over the years. Sure, YOU think that "Black Sweat" is as funky as anything Prince did in the 80's, but most people (myself included) think that "Black Sweat" is a SPOOF of his former work. It's not people wanting to give Stevie a lack of "respect" by noticing that he hasn't made anything in the neighborhood of the quality of an "Innervisions" in 20 years. That's a FACT. well i'm not the ONLY one that thinks black sweat is funky and not a SPOOF. and what the hell do u want a musician 2 do, keep singing about the times that were the 70's or 80's? yeah let's hear a 50ish year old man keep singing about doing his sister or about ronald regan ..yeah that's real mature 4 an artist. if u want 2 keep living in that time period that's YOUR choice and how YOU hold an artists musical range. Nice try, but if i paid attention to Prince's lyrics i would've stopped listening to him a LONG time ago. I'm not talking about the crap lyrics. He's always done that. I'm talking about the crap MUSIC. The lack of new direction/new ideas. The ballads that all sound the same. Dusting off the old synth sounds to try and sound relevant again. Why am i wasting my breath trying to convince kool-aid kids anyways. Over it. http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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purplecam said: L4OATheOriginal said: well i'm not the ONLY one that thinks black sweat is funky and not a SPOOF. and what the hell do u want a musician 2 do, keep singing about the times that were the 70's or 80's? yeah let's hear a 50ish year old man keep singing about doing his sister or about ronald regan ..yeah that's real mature 4 an artist. if u want 2 keep living in that time period that's YOUR choice and how YOU hold an artists musical range. You need to get out of my head! Unfortunately, there are a lot of people here who want to stay in 1988 with Prince. I say let em. It's their loss.no i like it in ur head ..ur crazy just like i am   man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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ButterscotchPimp said: L4OATheOriginal said: well i'm not the ONLY one that thinks black sweat is funky and not a SPOOF. and what the hell do u want a musician 2 do, keep singing about the times that were the 70's or 80's? yeah let's hear a 50ish year old man keep singing about doing his sister or about ronald regan ..yeah that's real mature 4 an artist. if u want 2 keep living in that time period that's YOUR choice and how YOU hold an artists musical range. Nice try, but if i paid attention to Prince's lyrics i would've stopped listening to him a LONG time ago. I'm not talking about the crap lyrics. He's always done that. I'm talking about the crap MUSIC. The lack of new direction/new ideas. The ballads that all sound the same. Dusting off the old synth sounds to try and sound relevant again. Why am i wasting my breath trying to convince kool-aid kids anyways. Over it. you'll never convince the kool aiders..best put ur feet up. go get a rest b4 u need some first aid | |
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ButterscotchPimp said: L4OATheOriginal said: well i'm not the ONLY one that thinks black sweat is funky and not a SPOOF. and what the hell do u want a musician 2 do, keep singing about the times that were the 70's or 80's? yeah let's hear a 50ish year old man keep singing about doing his sister or about ronald regan ..yeah that's real mature 4 an artist. if u want 2 keep living in that time period that's YOUR choice and how YOU hold an artists musical range. Nice try, but if i paid attention to Prince's lyrics i would've stopped listening to him a LONG time ago. I'm not talking about the crap lyrics. He's always done that. I'm talking about the crap MUSIC. The lack of new direction/new ideas. The ballads that all sound the same. Dusting off the old synth sounds to try and sound relevant again. Why am i wasting my breath trying to convince kool-aid kids anyways. Over it. yeah and i bet u were the one cheering up the crowd when u heard the Linn drum sound was coming back on rave now u chomp it up 2 shreads..and don't assume i'm drinking the kool aid cause then i would b one that raves about PE and i'm not the one. so go back 2 the 80's and they stay there will ya? thank u man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: purplecam said: You need to get out of my head! Unfortunately, there are a lot of people here who want to stay in 1988 with Prince. I say let em. It's their loss.no i like it in ur head ..ur crazy just like i am Yes indeed I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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ButterscotchPimp said: L4OATheOriginal said: well i'm not the ONLY one that thinks black sweat is funky and not a SPOOF. and what the hell do u want a musician 2 do, keep singing about the times that were the 70's or 80's? yeah let's hear a 50ish year old man keep singing about doing his sister or about ronald regan ..yeah that's real mature 4 an artist. if u want 2 keep living in that time period that's YOUR choice and how YOU hold an artists musical range. Nice try, but if i paid attention to Prince's lyrics i would've stopped listening to him a LONG time ago. I'm not talking about the crap lyrics. He's always done that. I'm talking about the crap MUSIC. The lack of new direction/new ideas. The ballads that all sound the same. Dusting off the old synth sounds to try and sound relevant again. Why am i wasting my breath trying to convince kool-aid kids anyways. Over it. I got a major issue with this right here. Why the fuck must you or anyone else call someone a "Kool-Aid" anyone cause they see things on Prince's side? It's all so juvenile and stupid. They don't side with you, either keep on debating or end it there. Why resort to name calling? Oh and calling people haters isn't any better and I'm guilty of that myself. Agree to disagree, there's nothing wrong with that. I just had to say that. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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purplecam said: ButterscotchPimp said: Nice try, but if i paid attention to Prince's lyrics i would've stopped listening to him a LONG time ago. I'm not talking about the crap lyrics. He's always done that. I'm talking about the crap MUSIC. The lack of new direction/new ideas. The ballads that all sound the same. Dusting off the old synth sounds to try and sound relevant again. Why am i wasting my breath trying to convince kool-aid kids anyways. Over it. I got a major issue with this right here. Why the fuck must you or anyone else call someone a "Kool-Aid" anyone cause they see things on Prince's side? It's all so juvenile and stupid. They don't side with you, either keep on debating or end it there. Why resort to name calling? Oh and calling people haters isn't any better and I'm guilty of that myself. Agree to disagree, there's nothing wrong with that. I just had to say that. Just calling a spade a spade. That's the way it is in here 98% of the time. There are a few objective people in here that can listen to and respect others opinions. But for the most part, it's a cult of sad, weird people that think that Prince is the 2nd coming himself. That every song written is a masterpiece that the entire world should get on it's knees and bow down to. http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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ButterscotchPimp said: purplecam said: I got a major issue with this right here. Why the fuck must you or anyone else call someone a "Kool-Aid" anyone cause they see things on Prince's side? It's all so juvenile and stupid. They don't side with you, either keep on debating or end it there. Why resort to name calling? Oh and calling people haters isn't any better and I'm guilty of that myself. Agree to disagree, there's nothing wrong with that. I just had to say that. Just calling a spade a spade. That's the way it is in here 98% of the time. There are a few objective people in here that can listen to and respect others opinions. But for the most part, it's a cult of sad, weird people that think that Prince is the 2nd coming himself. That every song written is a masterpiece that the entire world should get on it's knees and bow down to. Wow, this thread won't die! I guess being objective means they believe what u believe right lol. Just becuse somebody's say they like "song A" doesn't mean it is a masterpiece or that they believe it to be. Same as someone saying they don't like a song mean its a horrible piece of shit. Prince's fans are very diverse. Each coming with a point of view conditioned by their personal heritage. That's includes their location, the ethnic culture, family stucture, u name it. I would imagine if we took a scientific poll we would find that certain groups tend to believe similar things about the music. Those views however exist completely independantly of the objective music. I believe u stated that Prince's ballads sound the same. I don't really have that same observation. Who's right? We may both be right. It depends on how u view the ballads. If a mellow beat and a falsetto are all u need to hear too think the ballads are unoriginal then I could see that. I know people who hear Jimi playing guitar and to them his palying all sound similar. And the truth is they are similar on the macro level, but if enjoy Jimi's playing or Prince' ballads u are listening on a micro level. As I always say the genius is in the details. | |
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tricky99 said: Prince hasn't done anything good since...
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ButterscotchPimp said: purplecam said: I got a major issue with this right here. Why the fuck must you or anyone else call someone a "Kool-Aid" anyone cause they see things on Prince's side? It's all so juvenile and stupid. They don't side with you, either keep on debating or end it there. Why resort to name calling? Oh and calling people haters isn't any better and I'm guilty of that myself. Agree to disagree, there's nothing wrong with that. I just had to say that. Just calling a spade a spade. That's the way it is in here 98% of the time. There are a few objective people in here that can listen to and respect others opinions. But for the most part, it's a cult of sad, weird people that think that Prince is the 2nd coming himself. That every song written is a masterpiece that the entire world should get on it's knees and bow down to. I hear what you're saying BP and sometimes it can be a bit weird in here where devotion for Prince can go but I guess that's just part of a fansite for you. There are going to be people here who love everything the man does and thinks he can do no wrong. I don't think that's wrong and no one should be made to feel like that's a bad thing, especially when they go to the place where they should feel like they can be themselves and talk about their favorite artist with people who feel the same way they do. I'm also down with being real about the artist too. Not everything is a bed of roses and people should be able to say that as well. I just hate all of the discord that comes when people start stuff by call each other names. We're supposed to leave that stuff behind with our childhood. I just would love it if we could all just be a little more civil than we are on this forum. We can all peacefully co-exist together. A man can dream right? I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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purplecam said: ButterscotchPimp said: Just calling a spade a spade. That's the way it is in here 98% of the time. There are a few objective people in here that can listen to and respect others opinions. But for the most part, it's a cult of sad, weird people that think that Prince is the 2nd coming himself. That every song written is a masterpiece that the entire world should get on it's knees and bow down to. I hear what you're saying BP and sometimes it can be a bit weird in here where devotion for Prince can go but I guess that's just part of a fansite for you. There are going to be people here who love everything the man does and thinks he can do no wrong. I don't think that's wrong and no one should be made to feel like that's a bad thing, especially when they go to the place where they should feel like they can be themselves and talk about their favorite artist with people who feel the same way they do. I'm also down with being real about the artist too. Not everything is a bed of roses and people should be able to say that as well. I just hate all of the discord that comes when people start stuff by call each other names. We're supposed to leave that stuff behind with our childhood. I just would love it if we could all just be a little more civil than we are on this forum. We can all peacefully co-exist together. A man can dream right? Well again, i keep coming back here so i'm either hard-headed (i am) or i really look forward to the 2%. I do enjoy the occasional thread where we can discuss the man and his music honestly without the paisley-colored glasses. But then i read stuff like the Van Hunt thread and just shake my head. http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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tricky99 said: squirrelgrease said: For You - Glass Half Full Prince - Glass Half Full Dirty Mind - Glass Full Controversy - Glass Full 1999 - Glass Overflowin' Purple Rain - Glass Full To The Rim Around The World In A Day - Glass Full Parade - Glass Full Sign O´ The Times - Glass Runneth Over Lovesexy - Glass Full Batman - Glass Damn Near Full Graffiti Bridge - Glass Half Full Diamonds And Pearls - Glass Has A Couple Of Drops Left In It - Glass Has A Couple Of Drops Left In It
Come - Glass Half Empty Black Album - Glass Really Full Gold - Glass Half Full Chaos And Disorder - Glass 3/4 Full Emancipation - Glass Half Empty Crystal Ball - Glass Full The Truth - Glass 7/8 Full The Vault... Old Friends 4 Sale - Glass Full Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic - Glass Half Empty Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic - Glass Half Full The Rainbow Children - Glass 3/4 Full One Nite Alone - Glass Completely Full One Nite Alone... Live! - Glass Running On Empty The Aftershow: It Ain't Over! - Glass Half Empty Xpectation - Glass Full C-Note - Glass Full N.E.W.S - Glass Full The Chocolate Invasion - Glass Half Empty The Slaughterhouse - Glass Half Empty Musicology - Glass Empty 3121 - Glass Damn Near Empty Planet Earth - Glass Empty U are not nearly as funny as u think u are. a) how do you know how funny this person thinks they are? b) your comment seems overly defensive. tricky99, i think this is a fair response to your original post, which, by the way, i thought excellent. fuck's sake, don't take it so seriously. as you yourself said, we're not in elementary school, so get off this guy's case. if this poster wants to express themselves in a somewhat jocular/individualistic manner, why should it threaten you?! i don't understand. c) the last great album for me was 'lovesexy'. 'batman' was nearly there; and since then it's been a very mixed bag indeed. | |
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ButterscotchPimp said: purplecam said: I hear what you're saying BP and sometimes it can be a bit weird in here where devotion for Prince can go but I guess that's just part of a fansite for you. There are going to be people here who love everything the man does and thinks he can do no wrong. I don't think that's wrong and no one should be made to feel like that's a bad thing, especially when they go to the place where they should feel like they can be themselves and talk about their favorite artist with people who feel the same way they do. I'm also down with being real about the artist too. Not everything is a bed of roses and people should be able to say that as well. I just hate all of the discord that comes when people start stuff by call each other names. We're supposed to leave that stuff behind with our childhood. I just would love it if we could all just be a little more civil than we are on this forum. We can all peacefully co-exist together. A man can dream right? Well again, i keep coming back here so i'm either hard-headed (i am) or i really look forward to the 2%. I do enjoy the occasional thread where we can discuss the man and his music honestly without the paisley-colored glasses. But then i read stuff like the Van Hunt thread and just shake my head. It's cool that you are here regardless.  You weren't the only one shaking your head. That was one crazy thread if I'd ever seen one on the org.I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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ButterscotchPimp said: purplecam said: I got a major issue with this right here. Why the fuck must you or anyone else call someone a "Kool-Aid" anyone cause they see things on Prince's side? It's all so juvenile and stupid. They don't side with you, either keep on debating or end it there. Why resort to name calling? Oh and calling people haters isn't any better and I'm guilty of that myself. Agree to disagree, there's nothing wrong with that. I just had to say that. Just calling a spade a spade. That's the way it is in here 98% of the time. There are a few objective people in here that can listen to and respect others opinions. But for the most part, it's a cult of sad, weird people that think that Prince is the 2nd coming himself. That every song written is a masterpiece that the entire world should get on it's knees and bow down to. well not everyone likes everything he does and i'm certainly in that crowd of those, but that being said, i surely am not a part of the pact that belives anything post the 80's is crap either. man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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So just to recap
1. If you like Prince material post 80s, you're a member of a Prince cult and think everything he's ever done is genius. 2. If you don't take every opportunity to say he sucks and hasn't put anything good out or done anything good since the 80s, you're a member of a Prince cult and think everything he's ever done is genius. 3. If someone posts about some random artist and you don't like them, you're a member of a Prince cult and think everything he's ever done is genius. 4. The majority of the posters here worship Prince and think everything he does is genius. 5. It's your obligation as a normal Prince fan to hate everything after the 80s, hate everything he does outside of music, and shit on it constantly as well as fellate Van Hunt. 
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