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Reply #120 posted 01/18/08 7:26am

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Man I hope and pray that I NEVER get to where a lot of fans are with Prince. That's a place I want nothing to do with. I'm with you, Prince is still as unpredictable as he was 10, 20, even 30 years ago.


Honey, please. Maybe YOU are easily pleased, but some of us listen to plenty of other music. IF PE is your idea of "Prince being unpredictable", I feel for you.
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Reply #121 posted 01/18/08 7:47am

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purplecam said:

Man I hope and pray that I NEVER get to where a lot of fans are with Prince. That's a place I want nothing to do with. I'm with you, Prince is still as unpredictable as he was 10, 20, even 30 years ago.


Honey, please. Maybe YOU are easily pleased, but some of us listen to plenty of other music. IF PE is your idea of "Prince being unpredictable", I feel for you.

falloff Bart you are one funny character. Unlike you, I don't frequent fansites of people whose music I haven't like in 10 plus years.
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Reply #122 posted 01/18/08 7:51am

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BartVanHemelen said:



Honey, please. Maybe YOU are easily pleased, but some of us listen to plenty of other music. IF PE is your idea of "Prince being unpredictable", I feel for you.

falloff Bart you are one funny character. Unlike you, I don't frequent fansites of people whose music I haven't like in 10 plus years.


10 years? I think its been more than that. What's this "strange relationship we hold on to" indeed.
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Reply #123 posted 01/18/08 7:57am

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purplecam said:


falloff Bart you are one funny character. Unlike you, I don't frequent fansites of people whose music I haven't like in 10 plus years.


10 years? I think its been more than that. What's this "strange relationship we hold on to" indeed.

That's what I wanna know? lol
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Reply #124 posted 01/18/08 8:09am

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Oh, i'm sorry. i wasn't aware that the rule for this thread was an album by album discourse on what i think sucks and what doesn't. And i said AFTER "Exodus". Wasn't "Come" before that? See you still think Prince is a "genius". We differ right there. He was at one point. I don't believe he still is. Trememdous performer, sure. But in my mind he's made ONE good album in the last 10 years or so. So is that specific enough, or do you really want me to break down all the albums track by track and have me dissecting them. Cuz, i can do that too. But i'm sure the purple kool-aid kids would rather i didn't.



U are correct "Come" did come before "Exodus". U are also correct I think Prince is a musical genius. I have never heard anyone say so-and-so is a former genius. Even when Prince is a 80 yr old man he will still be a genius. It's not a term u strip from someone once bestowed. U can argue that the work he is producing is not "genius" work. Does that work for u? I don't remember anyone stripped Einstein of the genius label when he didn't create a new theory of relativity.

It would take u much to long to break every single album down, but yes "breaking down is great". Why not do and album or two? We are here because of the music. Why not discuss the music? Just because I will probably disagree with your opinion doesn't mean I'm not interested in it.

As a side note I wonder if fans of Duke Ellington (who's career lasted like from the 20's to 70's or something to that effect) who still enjoyed his work past the first 20 years or so were belittled as "black and Tan" kids or something lol.
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Well there's a couple of issues. Sure you can't strip the "genius" label from someone like Albert Einstein. I think you can in reference to musicians. I mean you can certainly look at artists like Miles Davis and Stevie Wonder and refer to a point in their career where they clearly turned a corner and lost the magic so to speak. Prince certainly falls in that category.

Maybe if i have some time later on today, i'll dissect an album or 2 to reinforce my point that Prince hasn't made a really solid album in at least 10 or so, with the exception being TRC.
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Reply #125 posted 01/18/08 8:16am

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u wouldn't b talking about the infamous let's stop talking negative about prince thread would u?

missed that one too...lol

but whats the appeal of not looking past his greatness?? most here would agree that he's great, I think...
I don't understand the need to be bothered by ones language or ones opinion...it's all up for debate...but to take the stance that criticism of all things Prince makes you less of a fan is laughable at best...to take the stance that your use of language while voicing an opinion make you a lesser person (which has been implicated here) is laughable at best...a bunch of notions based on opinions about a singer...nothing more, nothing less..


that's y there r places like the holy river 2 get ur prince praise on in kool aid land. if i got bent out of shape every time someone dissed a song i like but they don't, man i would b bitchfight all the time up in here. but i don't because we all have our likes and dislikes..nothing more ..nothing less
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #126 posted 01/18/08 8:22am

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U are correct "Come" did come before "Exodus". U are also correct I think Prince is a musical genius. I have never heard anyone say so-and-so is a former genius. Even when Prince is a 80 yr old man he will still be a genius. It's not a term u strip from someone once bestowed. U can argue that the work he is producing is not "genius" work. Does that work for u? I don't remember anyone stripped Einstein of the genius label when he didn't create a new theory of relativity.

It would take u much to long to break every single album down, but yes "breaking down is great". Why not do and album or two? We are here because of the music. Why not discuss the music? Just because I will probably disagree with your opinion doesn't mean I'm not interested in it.

As a side note I wonder if fans of Duke Ellington (who's career lasted like from the 20's to 70's or something to that effect) who still enjoyed his work past the first 20 years or so were belittled as "black and Tan" kids or something lol.
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Well there's a couple of issues. Sure you can't strip the "genius" label from someone like Albert Einstein. I think you can in reference to musicians. I mean you can certainly look at artists like Miles Davis and Stevie Wonder and refer to a point in their career where they clearly turned a corner and lost the magic so to speak. Prince certainly falls in that category.

Maybe if i have some time later on today, i'll dissect an album or 2 to reinforce my point that Prince hasn't made a really solid album in at least 10 or so, with the exception being TRC.


cool, but why single out musicians? I would never "strip" genius from Stevie just because I wasn't satisfied with his later work. Nobody in any field of endevour maintains peak perforamnce for the duration of a career. The need to bring them down seems terribly silly. Why ever call anyone a genius in the first place if its temporary? And why can't u strip it from Einstein? I'm sure he slipped from his peak too. tell me where in your lifetime u have heard someone refered to has "former genius" so-and-so.
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Reply #127 posted 01/18/08 8:23am

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Oh please! U just didn't have any answers to the questions I posed. So now u run around acting as if I called u names and insulted your mother. U can hold whatever opinion u want on Prince or anything else, but if u put them out to the world to see then be prepared for folks to ask WHY?



I didn't have the answers you wanted to hear..thats all...
you do more than ask why...you wanna know why your opinion isn't shared...
I'm not acting as if you insulted me...you know you've slipped in snide insults not only on me but other posters...how come you don't ask the ones who agree with you why they share that opinion...see what answers you get...thumbs up!...those would be enlightening as hell, I'm sure...
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Reply #128 posted 01/18/08 8:26am

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Wow a twat! thanks! I really think thats the first time I have ever been called a twat. I like it. Maybe I will change my logon to twat99. I won't call u any names because I'm not mad at u and bear u no ill will.

But this may be a case of "if u can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen" and I guess u have vacated the kitchen. I was trying to be as logical and thought provoking as I can be. All of us hold opinions. Its when those opinions are probed is when we really get to see if that's how we feel and does what we feel have any reality behind it.

Its a lot like religion. Many will sprout of how they believe this or that but when pressed to explain why they believe it suddenly they are insulted or mute or make a quick exit. I'm a great believer in rational thought. We would all be less prone to manipulation if we took the time to actually think about why we believe something. Part of that process is explainly to others why u believe something. It should clarify your beliefs in your own mind. If it doesn't u need to ask youself why?


again..twist it to your needs....thumbs up!
I don't think you're looking for reality behind opinions, I think you're looking for an opportunity to debase others opinions...of course, you don't see it that way...you are doing the org a great service by proving us all wrong for our point of view...Prince himself should come give you a pat on the back, you deserve it...you can have your kitchen, it's kitchens like yours that make this place so entertaining...I'm not mad either but rather reassured why I post so infrequently in this forum..theres no tolerence from either side of the arguement...honestly, this thread started out great and props to you for that...but along the way you turned it into a steaming pile...again, props...


don't make me hurt u hammer u better post more up in this piece there is only so many times u can look at JE's rack lol boxed
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #129 posted 01/18/08 8:27am

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ButterscotchPimp said:





Well there's a couple of issues. Sure you can't strip the "genius" label from someone like Albert Einstein. I think you can in reference to musicians. I mean you can certainly look at artists like Miles Davis and Stevie Wonder and refer to a point in their career where they clearly turned a corner and lost the magic so to speak. Prince certainly falls in that category.

Maybe if i have some time later on today, i'll dissect an album or 2 to reinforce my point that Prince hasn't made a really solid album in at least 10 or so, with the exception being TRC.


cool, but why single out musicians? I would never "strip" genius from Stevie just because I wasn't satisfied with his later work. Nobody in any field of endevour maintains peak perforamnce for the duration of a career. The need to bring them down seems terribly silly. Why ever call anyone a genius in the first place if its temporary? And why can't u strip it from Einstein? I'm sure he slipped from his peak too. tell me where in your lifetime u have heard someone refered to has "former genius" so-and-so.

Great post. nod
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Reply #130 posted 01/18/08 8:28am

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tricky99 said:

Going back to the original statement "Prince hasn't done anything good since...", that is such a dismissive way of critiquing any artist. And really it just isn't true. I don't believe any one of his so-called fans can listen to PE and truly believe that to be true.


Dude, it's true. And Prince agrees with me. The FACT is that in the 1980s, Prince was always pushing his latest music. Ditto in the mid-1990s. Outside of that he's almost always fallen back on the hits, while virtually ignoring his current album. Except for the time he pretended to be a jazzfunkrock muso bore -- and even back then he fased out his new music pretty fast.



finally another that sees the light as i have since the jam of the year tour woot!
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #131 posted 01/18/08 8:36am

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tricky99 said:


Oh please! U just didn't have any answers to the questions I posed. So now u run around acting as if I called u names and insulted your mother. U can hold whatever opinion u want on Prince or anything else, but if u put them out to the world to see then be prepared for folks to ask WHY?



I didn't have the answers you wanted to hear..thats all...
you do more than ask why...you wanna know why your opinion isn't shared...
I'm not acting as if you insulted me...you know you've slipped in snide insults not only on me but other posters...how come you don't ask the ones who agree with you why they share that opinion...see what answers you get...thumbs up!...those would be enlightening as hell, I'm sure...


I asked u direct guestions u ignored them. U made statements i gave responses to refute them. U called me a twat in return. maybe u should take a debate course so u won't take things personally. U are obviously intelligent but u felt backed into a corner so u resorted to name calling and projection. I understand Prince doesn't hit the spot for u anymore but your leap in logic is to insist that the music most be "shit" and "garbage" becuse it doesn't move u.
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Reply #132 posted 01/18/08 8:37am

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roodboi said:


missed that one too...lol

but whats the appeal of not looking past his greatness?? most here would agree that he's great, I think...
I don't understand the need to be bothered by ones language or ones opinion...it's all up for debate...but to take the stance that criticism of all things Prince makes you less of a fan is laughable at best...to take the stance that your use of language while voicing an opinion make you a lesser person (which has been implicated here) is laughable at best...a bunch of notions based on opinions about a singer...nothing more, nothing less..


that's y there r places like the holy river 2 get ur prince praise on in kool aid land. if i got bent out of shape every time someone dissed a song i like but they don't, man i would b bitchfight all the time up in here. but i don't because we all have our likes and dislikes..nothing more ..nothing less


that's why this forum is wack...if anything, especially amongst other Prince fans, we should be able to speak openly and honestly how we feel about him and his music...
I wish some would save their "Prince can do no wrong" attitude for those who really dont know or like Prince...that shit doesn't pass on long time fans who are open enough to realize that everything he's released isn't praise worthy...some of it is downright cringe worthy...but in some eyes, that shouldn't even be brought into account...yet, we can dis every other artist because of their cringe worthy material...it's fucking hypocisy at it's best...

I've heard it over and over...it's old, it's boderline pathetic...but it is atleast entertaining...lol


and another thing...lol

whats with people thinking we shouldn't post here because we don't like things he's done lately...disbelief..I know I have praised Prince as much or more than I have not in this forum...is that what we should do, simply praise and save the criticism?? If so, this forum should only have one therad, make it a sticky...let the ass kissing commence...
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Reply #133 posted 01/18/08 8:41am

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Yesterday.

I heard he kissed a puppy yesterday.
Studies have shown the ass crack of the average Prince fan to be abnormally large. This explains the ease and frequency of their panties bunching up in it.
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Reply #134 posted 01/18/08 8:46am

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Yesterday.

I heard he kissed a puppy yesterday.


another one...reading is fundamental. If nothing else this thread proves how many people read a headline and never bother to read the actual contents before responding.
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Reply #135 posted 01/18/08 9:10am

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I asked u direct guestions u ignored them. U made statements i gave responses to refute them. U called me a twat in return. maybe u should take a debate course so u won't take things personally. U are obviously intelligent but u felt backed into a corner so u resorted to name calling and projection. I understand Prince doesn't hit the spot for u anymore but your leap in logic is to insist that the music most be "shit" and "garbage" becuse it doesn't move u

see, you obviously have me mistaken for somebody else, because not once have I refered to his music as "shit" or "garbage"...but nice try, like you said earlier...read!!
the worst I've called it was uninspired and unorignal...not overly deragatory by any standard...except maybe yours...shrug

when you make comments like...

Ok now I know where u are coming from. I knew if u came with a list u would reveal yourself. peace.


yes, I take that personally, because that's how you meant it...you're lying if you say otherwise...

saying you've backed me into a corner because I called you twat is giving yourself way too much credit my friend...I called you that because your tone to those that disagree with you is that of an all knowing twat...

being disappointed in Princes recent work doesn't make me any less of a fan...it doesn't mean he "doesn't hit the spot" for me...again, thats you drawing conlusions...it simply means I'm disappointed...there's really nothing to overanalyze about that, although I'm sure you could


again, I want you to ask the orgers that agree with you why they agree with you...those would be interesting answers...

you ever wake up feeling shitty...you don't know whjy, you just do?? well, there's not always an obvious reason for the way people feel...
art is a subject that can have so many conflicting points of view but all have one common bond, an appreciation for art...Prince and his music are no different...I concede that there are people here that post negativity just for the sake of doing so...I'd say there are more here that post negativity simply because they don't like whatever the subject is...be it a song, an album, an era, etc...
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Reply #136 posted 01/18/08 9:19am

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tricky99 said:

Mars23 said:

Yesterday.

I heard he kissed a puppy yesterday.


another one...reading is fundamental. If nothing else this thread proves how many people read a headline and never bother to read the actual contents before responding.


lol lol tricky .. u're taking it too personal ... and maybe cause you're not familiar with orgers around here.. ppl have alot of mixed emotions and i can understand some veteran fans and what they're saying.. i've been a fan for many years (25 years next month) and it's a roller coaster ride with Prince.. a real sensible fan is not gonna like everything he does.. i dont.. some stuff is outright 'wthell eek is he doing?' and some of us on this site have gone broke spending all their money on him .. so ppl give 'their' opinions of how they feel about his actions or music .. the whole PFU thing i dont get it confuse, he was made famous by doing dirty, sexy, filthy, wonderful music and having an eccentric image.. and now he wants us to rid all that?? .. 'THAT'S' what made him famous.. and ppl are just questioning (or are tired) of all the mysteria ... the stuff he's doing now.. no one would pay any attention to him, 'IF' is wasnt for the past.. but oh well shrug, some ppl on this site when they give an opinion.. they are basing it on 20+ years of experience... and you may not understand all the veteran orgers around here and why they feel the way they feel.... (that's why you cant take it personal or misjudge someone who has 20+ years of Prince) .. and there's a HUGE different between..bait threads and ppl just expressing themselves in this thread ... (i know L40 is a sweet dude)
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Reply #137 posted 01/18/08 9:38am

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another one...reading is fundamental. If nothing else this thread proves how many people read a headline and never bother to read the actual contents before responding.


lol lol tricky .. u're taking it too personal ... and maybe cause you're not familiar with orgers around here.. ppl have alot of mixed emotions and i can understand some veteran fans and what they're saying.. i've been a fan for many years (25 years next month) and it's a roller coaster ride with Prince.. a real sensible fan is not gonna like everything he does.. i dont.. some stuff is outright 'wthell eek is he doing?' and some of us on this site have gone broke spending all their money on him .. so ppl give 'their' opinions of how they feel about his actions or music .. the whole PFU thing i dont get it confuse, he was made famous by doing dirty, sexy, filthy, wonderful music and having an eccentric image.. and now he wants us to rid all that?? .. 'THAT'S' what made him famous.. and ppl are just questioning (or are tired) of all the mysteria ... the stuff he's doing now.. no one would pay any attention to him, 'IF' is wasnt for the past.. but oh well shrug, some ppl on this site when they give an opinion.. they are basing it on 20+ years of experience... and you may not understand all the veteran orgers around here and why they feel the way they feel.... (that's why you cant take it personal or misjudge someone who has 20+ years of Prince) .. and there's a HUGE different between..bait threads and ppl just expressing themselves in this thread ... (i know L40 is a sweet dude)


oh i'm not taking it personal at all. I've been reading/contributing to the site for years also. And following Prince from the dawn of his career. I just like to understand why people feel how they feel. I also like see if I can get people to examine why they feel a certain way. I'm enjoing myself.
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Reply #138 posted 01/18/08 9:50am

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tricky99 said:

I asked u direct guestions u ignored them. U made statements i gave responses to refute them. U called me a twat in return. maybe u should take a debate course so u won't take things personally. U are obviously intelligent but u felt backed into a corner so u resorted to name calling and projection. I understand Prince doesn't hit the spot for u anymore but your leap in logic is to insist that the music most be "shit" and "garbage" becuse it doesn't move u

see, you obviously have me mistaken for somebody else, because not once have I refered to his music as "shit" or "garbage"...but nice try, like you said earlier...read!!
the worst I've called it was uninspired and unorignal...not overly deragatory by any standard...except maybe yours...shrug

when you make comments like...

Ok now I know where u are coming from. I knew if u came with a list u would reveal yourself. peace.


yes, I take that personally, because that's how you meant it...you're lying if you say otherwise...

saying you've backed me into a corner because I called you twat is giving yourself way too much credit my friend...I called you that because your tone to those that disagree with you is that of an all knowing twat...

being disappointed in Princes recent work doesn't make me any less of a fan...it doesn't mean he "doesn't hit the spot" for me...again, thats you drawing conlusions...it simply means I'm disappointed...there's really nothing to overanalyze about that, although I'm sure you could


again, I want you to ask the orgers that agree with you why they agree with you...those would be interesting answers...

you ever wake up feeling shitty...you don't know whjy, you just do?? well, there's not always an obvious reason for the way people feel...
art is a subject that can have so many conflicting points of view but all have one common bond, an appreciation for art...Prince and his music are no different...I concede that there are people here that post negativity just for the sake of doing so...I'd say there are more here that post negativity simply because they don't like whatever the subject is...be it a song, an album, an era, etc...


I must have confused u with someone else with the terminology used to describe Prince's music sorry. I don't remember ever accusing u of being a lessor fan. Yes, I am the all-knowing OZ lol. I don't know where u get that. You were of the opinion that any old body could do the music Prince did over the course of the last 3 albums.. That certainly called for some evidence. U threw out the names and I said yeah u revealed yourself. Its easy to argue in a vaccum but u revealed how u "heard" Prince by listing those folks. Are u ashamed of those names u listed? Everything we say reveals something. I have revealed that I'm an all-knowing twat. U revealed that u think those artists outputs are comparable to Prince's last 3 albums.
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Reply #139 posted 01/18/08 9:57am

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tricky99 said:

Mars23 said:

Yesterday.

I heard he kissed a puppy yesterday.


another one...reading is fundamental. If nothing else this thread proves how many people read a headline and never bother to read the actual contents before responding.



I read the whole post. My mistake was not knowing how tightly your panties were bunched.
Studies have shown the ass crack of the average Prince fan to be abnormally large. This explains the ease and frequency of their panties bunching up in it.
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Reply #140 posted 01/18/08 10:01am

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tricky99 said:



another one...reading is fundamental. If nothing else this thread proves how many people read a headline and never bother to read the actual contents before responding.



I read the whole post. My mistake was not knowing how tightly your panties were bunched.


i don't wear panties, but I was serious when I wrote the tread and would appreciate serious replys. no offense.
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Reply #141 posted 01/18/08 10:15am

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yes, I take that personally, because that's how you meant it...you're lying if you say otherwise...

saying you've backed me into a corner because I called you twat is giving yourself way too much credit my friend...I called you that because your tone to those that disagree with you is that of an all knowing twat...

being disappointed in Princes recent work doesn't make me any less of a fan...it doesn't mean he "doesn't hit the spot" for me...again, thats you drawing conlusions...it simply means I'm disappointed...there's really nothing to overanalyze about that, although I'm sure you could


again, I want you to ask the orgers that agree with you why they agree with you...those would be interesting answers...

you ever wake up feeling shitty...you don't know whjy, you just do?? well, there's not always an obvious reason for the way people feel...
art is a subject that can have so many conflicting points of view but all have one common bond, an appreciation for art...Prince and his music are no different...I concede that there are people here that post negativity just for the sake of doing so...I'd say there are more here that post negativity simply because they don't like whatever the subject is...be it a song, an album, an era, etc...


I must have confused u with someone else with the terminology used to describe Prince's music sorry. I don't remember ever accusing u of being a lessor fan. Yes, I am the all-knowing OZ lol. I don't know where u get that. You were of the opinion that any old body could do the music Prince did over the course of the last 3 albums.. That certainly called for some evidence. U threw out the names and I said yeah u revealed yourself. Its easy to argue in a vaccum but u revealed how u "heard" Prince by listing those folks. Are u ashamed of those names u listed? Everything we say reveals something. I have revealed that I'm an all-knowing twat. U revealed that u think those artists outputs are comparable to Prince's last 3 albums.



I'm ashamed of nothing...simply stated-again-those artists can and have turned out music just like Prince has for the last three albums...uninventive, uninspired and unoriginal...that's my opinion...nothing more nothing less...my listing of those names doesn't imply I hold them to the same standard as Prince...if anything, I think it shows my commitment as a fan by expecting more from him...normally, atleast for me, we only expect great things from people we consider great...when great things are produced by those we never considered, we're surprised...when less than great things are produced by those we praise, we're disappointed...
tricky, honestly, your orignal post for this thread was mostly on point..but somewhere along the way you lost me when you spoke of questioning the reasons behind the opinions...I beg you, don't only question the negative opinion, question the positive as well...some of those answers are just as shady as what you've considered some of mine...lol

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that's y there r places like the holy river 2 get ur prince praise on in kool aid land. if i got bent out of shape every time someone dissed a song i like but they don't, man i would b bitchfight all the time up in here. but i don't because we all have our likes and dislikes..nothing more ..nothing less


that's why this forum is wack...if anything, especially amongst other Prince fans, we should be able to speak openly and honestly how we feel about him and his music...
I wish some would save their "Prince can do no wrong" attitude for those who really dont know or like Prince...that shit doesn't pass on long time fans who are open enough to realize that everything he's released isn't praise worthy...some of it is downright cringe worthy...but in some eyes, that shouldn't even be brought into account...yet, we can dis every other artist because of their cringe worthy material...it's fucking hypocisy at it's best...

I've heard it over and over...it's old, it's boderline pathetic...but it is atleast entertaining...lol


and another thing...lol

whats with people thinking we shouldn't post here because we don't like things he's done lately...disbelief..I know I have praised Prince as much or more than I have not in this forum...is that what we should do, simply praise and save the criticism?? If so, this forum should only have one therad, make it a sticky...let the ass kissing commence...



i don't ass kiss my friend no no no! ..unless it's the ass of ever, chilli and moni big grin
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #143 posted 01/18/08 10:29am

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another one...reading is fundamental. If nothing else this thread proves how many people read a headline and never bother to read the actual contents before responding.


lol lol tricky .. u're taking it too personal ... and maybe cause you're not familiar with orgers around here.. ppl have alot of mixed emotions and i can understand some veteran fans and what they're saying.. i've been a fan for many years (25 years next month) and it's a roller coaster ride with Prince.. a real sensible fan is not gonna like everything he does.. i dont.. some stuff is outright 'wthell eek is he doing?' and some of us on this site have gone broke spending all their money on him .. so ppl give 'their' opinions of how they feel about his actions or music .. the whole PFU thing i dont get it confuse, he was made famous by doing dirty, sexy, filthy, wonderful music and having an eccentric image.. and now he wants us to rid all that?? .. 'THAT'S' what made him famous.. and ppl are just questioning (or are tired) of all the mysteria ... the stuff he's doing now.. no one would pay any attention to him, 'IF' is wasnt for the past.. but oh well shrug, some ppl on this site when they give an opinion.. they are basing it on 20+ years of experience... and you may not understand all the veteran orgers around here and why they feel the way they feel.... (that's why you cant take it personal or misjudge someone who has 20+ years of Prince) .. and there's a HUGE different between..bait threads and ppl just expressing themselves in this thread ... (i know L40 is a sweet dude)


have i told u lately that i love u? hug
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Reply #144 posted 01/18/08 10:32am

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i don't ass kiss my friend no no no! ..unless it's the ass of ever, chilli and moni big grin



you'll need help kissing all that ass...wave....lol
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roodboi said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

i don't ass kiss my friend no no no! ..unless it's the ass of ever, chilli and moni big grin



you'll need help kissing all that ass...wave....lol


damn dont u have enough with just erin and jess and zombie? big grin
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Reply #146 posted 01/18/08 11:21am

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I must have confused u with someone else with the terminology used to describe Prince's music sorry. I don't remember ever accusing u of being a lessor fan. Yes, I am the all-knowing OZ lol. I don't know where u get that. You were of the opinion that any old body could do the music Prince did over the course of the last 3 albums.. That certainly called for some evidence. U threw out the names and I said yeah u revealed yourself. Its easy to argue in a vaccum but u revealed how u "heard" Prince by listing those folks. Are u ashamed of those names u listed? Everything we say reveals something. I have revealed that I'm an all-knowing twat. U revealed that u think those artists outputs are comparable to Prince's last 3 albums.



I'm ashamed of nothing...simply stated-again-those artists can and have turned out music just like Prince has for the last three albums...uninventive, uninspired and unoriginal...that's my opinion...nothing more nothing less...my listing of those names doesn't imply I hold them to the same standard as Prince...if anything, I think it shows my commitment as a fan by expecting more from him...normally, atleast for me, we only expect great things from people we consider great...when great things are produced by those we never considered, we're surprised...when less than great things are produced by those we praise, we're disappointed...
tricky, honestly, your orignal post for this thread was mostly on point..but somewhere along the way you lost me when you spoke of questioning the reasons behind the opinions...I beg you, don't only question the negative opinion, question the positive as well...some of those answers are just as shady as what you've considered some of mine...lol

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I wrote long reply and it got lost lol. Anyway "Xpectations" are a bitch.
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Reply #147 posted 01/18/08 11:23am

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roodboi said:




you'll need help kissing all that ass...wave....lol


damn dont u have enough with just erin and jess and zombie? big grin


can one truly ever have enough...
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Reply #148 posted 01/18/08 11:25am

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"Xpectations" are a bitch.



the very first thing we can agree on...touched
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Reply #149 posted 01/18/08 11:27am

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damn dont u have enough with just erin and jess and zombie? big grin


can one truly ever have enough...


if i had a harem ...big grin
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