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Thread started 12/04/07 11:10pm

wildgoldenhone
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Is "1999" about Nostradamus' Prediction?

Didn't Nostradamus predict that in the year 2000 the world would come to an end?
In the song it talks about judgment day, bombs, 2000 running out of time, war, dying, and partying for the present (because there may be no tomorrow).

Just wondering what all the hardcore fans can tell me about this song. cool
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Reply #1 posted 12/04/07 11:27pm

Snap

most people say that the nostradamus predictions show "the end of the world" chaos happening from about 2008 to 2012 whereafter the dawn of a new age begins

tho, i personally doubt this is what Prince had in mind when writing the song
his beliefs seemed a bit more biblically based back then
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Reply #2 posted 12/04/07 11:32pm

wildgoldenhone
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Thanks! But I thought I remembered just before the y2k, everyone was panicking and in the news there was mention of Nostradamus or something...

What do you think he had in mind with this song? Is it the actual biblical judgment day he might be referring to?
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Reply #3 posted 12/04/07 11:48pm

Imago

When Prince wrote is post-apocolyptic Rock Opus, it was never meant to be a statement of religiosity or a call to arms, but a generation x inspired gender bending homage to the female vagina. Almost all of Prince's 80's material is concerned with vaginas, God, or dehydrogenated monoxide. However, during the 1999 albulm, though the theme of dehydrogenated monoxide was prevalent (see 'Something in the Water (does not compute)', the title track itself was concerned mainly with vaginas alone.

A minor hit at first, this song coasted on the success of the more melodic track "Little Red Corvette" which propelled Prince into Pop Superstardum. It essentially set the stage for Purple Rain which made him a global phenomenon.

As for the lyrical content in the song itself, one can not critique that without a thorough understanding of Prince's psychological state of mind during that period of his life. What little we do know has come from speculation or a combination of certain assertions based on a whole collection of later works. For example, In 1999, Prince says "I got a lion in my pocket, and baby he's ready to roar!", this is assumed to be a reference to his penis. But when you compare that statement to future still captures of his penis , which can be clearly seen in the famous yellow "camel toe" picture from the gold experience, the penis in question is more of a minx, or at very most, a bob-tale mountain cat--but certainly no lion. This either can be attributed to early 20's male bravado, which in present day can be witnessed in the general discussion forum as "the internet Penis" size, or it could be that Prince, the true visionary, meant something else when he said that he had a lion in his pocket. I generally like to think it was the later.
One need only look at his most recent effort, Planet Earth, to the song 'Lion of Judah'. " Like the Lion of Judah, I strike my enemies down" Prince proclaims, as if he's confronted with his own personal jihad, which of course is a direct contradiction, or very least, contrast to the overall 'love for one another, and ecological responsibility ' theme of Planet Earth . But if we take this translation of the word 'Lion' and compare it to his use of it in the song 1999, we can see where it all comes together. In 1999, Prince sings that we woke up swearing it must of been judgement day , and that he wants to party like its 1999 (remember it was 1982/1983 at that time), so essentially he's saying that the world outside is a chaotic mess, and we can't let this get us down--we must overcome this and have some fun before day of judgement comes.
And ultimately, we know what Prince's idea of fun was back in 1983--yup, vaginas. Prince was as obsessed with vaginas as he was with Dihydrogenated monoxide at that time, though the later works would reveal the scales being tipped towards the later. So we know that the fun Prince wishes to have is centered around vaginas, and we know that he wants to have this fun despite some upheaval. All we have to piece together now is what he means by 'Lion' which becomes very obvious during his symbol years and in the song Lion of Judah. What does Prince strike his enemies down with? A sword? A knife? No!!! He uses his gun-mic, a weapon that has horrified fans besieged with such lyrics as those on 'The Flow', "Jugehead", and "Sexy MF"--a weapon that has laid waste many of his critiques own previous judgements of his material, as well as his fans expectations of his previous and current output. A symbol of not only his powers as a singer, rapper, and street prophet--but of his libido and control over his sexual partners.

He was saying "give me your vagina, or I'll unleash this lion in my pocket", or more clearly stated, "Bitch, don't try anything funny with your vagina, or I'll clock your ass with this weapon." And the woman he is threatening this to, is the 'little red corvette', or the prostitute that he sings about in the song after this. So essentially, Prince is telling all the prostitutes of the world, that when you give him head, or fuck him, don't try anything funny, or you'll get 'The Lion'.

The brilliance behind all of this is that Prince is reflecting much of the urban machismo that would eventually find it's way into Heavy Metal, Ganster Rap, and even Hollywood films. But he was using his own imagery to do that--imagery that over the years, has been immitated, but never duplicated.

Prince proved in 1999, his rock opus, that now and forever, he would carve a unique niche into Pop music.



Thank you.



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wildgoldenhone
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Imago said:

When Prince wrote is post-apocolyptic Rock Opus, it was never meant to be a statement of religiosity or a call to arms, but a generation x inspired gender bending homage to the female vagina. Almost all of Prince's 80's material is concerned with vaginas, God, or dehydrogenated monoxide. However, during the 1999 albulm, though the theme of dehydrogenated monoxide was prevalent (see 'Something in the Water (does not compute)', the title track itself was concerned mainly with vaginas alone.

A minor hit at first, this song coasted on the success of the more melodic track "Little Red Corvette" which propelled Prince into Pop Superstardum. It essentially set the stage for Purple Rain which made him a global phenomenon.

As for the lyrical content in the song itself, one can not critique that without a thorough understanding of Prince's psychological state of mind during that period of his life. What little we do know has come from speculation or a combination of certain assertions based on a whole collection of later works. For example, In 1999, Prince says "I got a lion in my pocket, and baby he's ready to roar!", this is assumed to be a reference to his penis. But when you compare that statement to future still captures of his penis , which can be clearly seen in the famous yellow "camel toe" picture from the gold experience, the penis in question is more of a minx, or at very most, a bob-tale mountain cat--but certainly no lion. This either can be attributed to early 20's male bravado, which in present day can be witnessed in the general discussion forum as "the internet Penis" size, or it could be that Prince, the true visionary, meant something else when he said that he had a lion in his pocket. I generally like to think it was the later.
One need only look at his most recent effort, Planet Earth, to the song 'Lion of Judah'. " Like the Lion of Judah, I strike my enemies down" Prince proclaims, as if he's confronted with his own personal jihad, which of course is a direct contradiction, or very least, contrast to the overall 'love for one another, and ecological responsibility ' theme of Planet Earth . But if we take this translation of the word 'Lion' and compare it to his use of it in the song 1999, we can see where it all comes together. In 1999, Prince sings that we woke up swearing it must of been judgement day , and that he wants to party like its 1999 (remember it was 1982/1983 at that time), so essentially he's saying that the world outside is a chaotic mess, and we can't let this get us down--we must overcome this and have some fun before day of judgement comes.
And ultimately, we know what Prince's idea of fun was back in 1983--yup, vaginas. Prince was as obsessed with vaginas as he was with Dihydrogenated monoxide at that time, though the later works would reveal the scales being tipped towards the later. So we know that the fun Prince wishes to have is centered around vaginas, and we know that he wants to have this fun despite some upheaval. All we have to piece together now is what he means by 'Lion' which becomes very obvious during his symbol years and in the song Lion of Judah. What does Prince strike his enemies down with? A sword? A knife? No!!! He uses his gun-mic, a weapon that has horrified fans besieged with such lyrics as those on 'The Flow', "Jugehead", and "Sexy MF"--a weapon that has laid waste many of his critiques own previous judgements of his material, as well as his fans expectations of his previous and current output. A symbol of not only his powers as a singer, rapper, and street prophet--but of his libido and control over his sexual partners.

He was saying "give me your vagina, or I'll unleash this lion in my pocket", or more clearly stated, "Bitch, don't try anything funny with your vagina, or I'll clock your ass with this weapon." And the woman he is threatening this to, is the 'little red corvette', or the prostitute that he sings about in the song after this. So essentially, Prince is telling all the prostitutes of the world, that when you give him head, or fuck him, don't try anything funny, or you'll get 'The Lion'.

The brilliance behind all of this is that Prince is reflecting much of the urban machismo that would eventually find it's way into Heavy Metal, Ganster Rap, and even Hollywood films. But he was using his own imagery to do that--imagery that over the years, has been immitated, but never duplicated.

Prince proved in 1999, his rock opus, that now and forever, he would carve a unique niche into Pop music.



Thank you.



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Thanks! I agree with the partying and his way of partying, but is the lion (weapon), are you certain that this is what he is referring to? It does make sense the way you put it though.
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Reply #5 posted 12/05/07 12:10am

wildgoldenhone
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That is very interesting and detailed Imago. cool
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Reply #6 posted 12/05/07 1:53am

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Imago said:

When Prince wrote is post-apocolyptic Rock Opus, it was never meant to be a statement of religiosity or a call to arms, but a generation x inspired gender bending homage to the female vagina. Almost all of Prince's 80's material is concerned with vaginas, God, or dehydrogenated monoxide. However, during the 1999 albulm, though the theme of dehydrogenated monoxide was prevalent (see 'Something in the Water (does not compute)', the title track itself was concerned mainly with vaginas alone.

A minor hit at first, this song coasted on the success of the more melodic track "Little Red Corvette" which propelled Prince into Pop Superstardum. It essentially set the stage for Purple Rain which made him a global phenomenon.

As for the lyrical content in the song itself, one can not critique that without a thorough understanding of Prince's psychological state of mind during that period of his life. What little we do know has come from speculation or a combination of certain assertions based on a whole collection of later works. For example, In 1999, Prince says "I got a lion in my pocket, and baby he's ready to roar!", this is assumed to be a reference to his penis. But when you compare that statement to future still captures of his penis , which can be clearly seen in the famous yellow "camel toe" picture from the gold experience, the penis in question is more of a minx, or at very most, a bob-tale mountain cat--but certainly no lion. This either can be attributed to early 20's male bravado, which in present day can be witnessed in the general discussion forum as "the internet Penis" size, or it could be that Prince, the true visionary, meant something else when he said that he had a lion in his pocket. I generally like to think it was the later.
One need only look at his most recent effort, Planet Earth, to the song 'Lion of Judah'. " Like the Lion of Judah, I strike my enemies down" Prince proclaims, as if he's confronted with his own personal jihad, which of course is a direct contradiction, or very least, contrast to the overall 'love for one another, and ecological responsibility ' theme of Planet Earth . But if we take this translation of the word 'Lion' and compare it to his use of it in the song 1999, we can see where it all comes together. In 1999, Prince sings that we woke up swearing it must of been judgement day , and that he wants to party like its 1999 (remember it was 1982/1983 at that time), so essentially he's saying that the world outside is a chaotic mess, and we can't let this get us down--we must overcome this and have some fun before day of judgement comes.
And ultimately, we know what Prince's idea of fun was back in 1983--yup, vaginas. Prince was as obsessed with vaginas as he was with Dihydrogenated monoxide at that time, though the later works would reveal the scales being tipped towards the later. So we know that the fun Prince wishes to have is centered around vaginas, and we know that he wants to have this fun despite some upheaval. All we have to piece together now is what he means by 'Lion' which becomes very obvious during his symbol years and in the song Lion of Judah. What does Prince strike his enemies down with? A sword? A knife? No!!! He uses his gun-mic, a weapon that has horrified fans besieged with such lyrics as those on 'The Flow', "Jugehead", and "Sexy MF"--a weapon that has laid waste many of his critiques own previous judgements of his material, as well as his fans expectations of his previous and current output. A symbol of not only his powers as a singer, rapper, and street prophet--but of his libido and control over his sexual partners.

He was saying "give me your vagina, or I'll unleash this lion in my pocket", or more clearly stated, "Bitch, don't try anything funny with your vagina, or I'll clock your ass with this weapon." And the woman he is threatening this to, is the 'little red corvette', or the prostitute that he sings about in the song after this. So essentially, Prince is telling all the prostitutes of the world, that when you give him head, or fuck him, don't try anything funny, or you'll get 'The Lion'.

The brilliance behind all of this is that Prince is reflecting much of the urban machismo that would eventually find it's way into Heavy Metal, Ganster Rap, and even Hollywood films. But he was using his own imagery to do that--imagery that over the years, has been immitated, but never duplicated.

Prince proved in 1999, his rock opus, that now and forever, he would carve a unique niche into Pop music.



Thank you.



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EMMM

fuckinGEEEEE

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Reply #7 posted 12/05/07 3:01am

IstenSzek

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Imago said:

When Prince wrote is post-apocolyptic Rock Opus, it was never meant to be a statement of religiosity or a call to arms, but a generation x inspired gender bending homage to the female vagina. Almost all of Prince's 80's material is concerned with vaginas, God, or dehydrogenated monoxide. However, during the 1999 albulm, though the theme of dehydrogenated monoxide was prevalent (see 'Something in the Water (does not compute)', the title track itself was concerned mainly with vaginas alone.

A minor hit at first, this song coasted on the success of the more melodic track "Little Red Corvette" which propelled Prince into Pop Superstardum. It essentially set the stage for Purple Rain which made him a global phenomenon.

As for the lyrical content in the song itself, one can not critique that without a thorough understanding of Prince's psychological state of mind during that period of his life. What little we do know has come from speculation or a combination of certain assertions based on a whole collection of later works. For example, In 1999, Prince says "I got a lion in my pocket, and baby he's ready to roar!", this is assumed to be a reference to his penis. But when you compare that statement to future still captures of his penis , which can be clearly seen in the famous yellow "camel toe" picture from the gold experience, the penis in question is more of a minx, or at very most, a bob-tale mountain cat--but certainly no lion. This either can be attributed to early 20's male bravado, which in present day can be witnessed in the general discussion forum as "the internet Penis" size, or it could be that Prince, the true visionary, meant something else when he said that he had a lion in his pocket. I generally like to think it was the later.
One need only look at his most recent effort, Planet Earth, to the song 'Lion of Judah'. " Like the Lion of Judah, I strike my enemies down" Prince proclaims, as if he's confronted with his own personal jihad, which of course is a direct contradiction, or very least, contrast to the overall 'love for one another, and ecological responsibility ' theme of Planet Earth . But if we take this translation of the word 'Lion' and compare it to his use of it in the song 1999, we can see where it all comes together. In 1999, Prince sings that we woke up swearing it must of been judgement day , and that he wants to party like its 1999 (remember it was 1982/1983 at that time), so essentially he's saying that the world outside is a chaotic mess, and we can't let this get us down--we must overcome this and have some fun before day of judgement comes.
And ultimately, we know what Prince's idea of fun was back in 1983--yup, vaginas. Prince was as obsessed with vaginas as he was with Dihydrogenated monoxide at that time, though the later works would reveal the scales being tipped towards the later. So we know that the fun Prince wishes to have is centered around vaginas, and we know that he wants to have this fun despite some upheaval. All we have to piece together now is what he means by 'Lion' which becomes very obvious during his symbol years and in the song Lion of Judah. What does Prince strike his enemies down with? A sword? A knife? No!!! He uses his gun-mic, a weapon that has horrified fans besieged with such lyrics as those on 'The Flow', "Jugehead", and "Sexy MF"--a weapon that has laid waste many of his critiques own previous judgements of his material, as well as his fans expectations of his previous and current output. A symbol of not only his powers as a singer, rapper, and street prophet--but of his libido and control over his sexual partners.

He was saying "give me your vagina, or I'll unleash this lion in my pocket", or more clearly stated, "Bitch, don't try anything funny with your vagina, or I'll clock your ass with this weapon." And the woman he is threatening this to, is the 'little red corvette', or the prostitute that he sings about in the song after this. So essentially, Prince is telling all the prostitutes of the world, that when you give him head, or fuck him, don't try anything funny, or you'll get 'The Lion'.

The brilliance behind all of this is that Prince is reflecting much of the urban machismo that would eventually find it's way into Heavy Metal, Ganster Rap, and even Hollywood films. But he was using his own imagery to do that--imagery that over the years, has been immitated, but never duplicated.

Prince proved in 1999, his rock opus, that now and forever, he would carve a unique niche into Pop music.



Thank you.



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i just hope someone copies this as "fact" onto wickipedia

falloff
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #8 posted 12/05/07 3:28am

HamsterHuey

Damn. From Nostradamus to Vulva in only three posts.
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Reply #9 posted 12/05/07 3:47am

Se7en

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The song is about Jesus' return to Earth after 2000 years.
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Reply #10 posted 12/05/07 3:55am

HamsterHuey

Se7en said:

The song is about Jesus' return to Earth after 2000 years.


Just as much as The Cross is about milkshakes, sure.
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Reply #11 posted 12/05/07 3:56am

HamsterHuey

HamsterHuey said:

Se7en said:

The song is about Jesus' return to Earth after 2000 years.


Just as much as The Cross is about milkshakes, sure.


Oh, unles Jesus is a lion in Prince's pocket, cuz then you might be right.
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Reply #12 posted 12/05/07 4:23am

Flowerz

No... Prince did not get that from Nostradamus ... the Bible speaks of Judgement Day coming ...and like Se7en said.. could be the judgement after Jesus' return ... will be 7 years of tribulation for Earth..(the Anti-Christ comes on the scene)
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Reply #13 posted 12/05/07 4:33am

HamsterHuey

I just think Prince wants to dance and make his lion roar before Ronnie and Russia throw bombs.

But then again, it can be whatever you WANT it to be about. I think it is about fams that see Jesus everywhere and it tires Prince so much he wants to dance and get laid. Preferably a Puerto Rican looking teenager or twenty something that looks like she is a teenager. But that is just me.
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Reply #14 posted 12/05/07 4:49am

darrenj

No, it's not just you.

smile
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Reply #15 posted 12/05/07 4:56am

Illustrator

So, basically,
what this thread is saying so far is that the lion in Imago's pocket is the puerto rican anti-christ....?
confuse
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Reply #16 posted 12/05/07 5:02am

HamsterHuey

darrenj said:

No, it's not just you.

smile



Wait, incoming call from Jesus. He say; "eat green food"

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Reply #17 posted 12/05/07 5:18am

DanceWme

Imago said:

When Prince wrote is post-apocolyptic Rock Opus, it was never meant to be a statement of religiosity or a call to arms, but a generation x inspired gender bending homage to the female vagina. Almost all of Prince's 80's material is concerned with vaginas, God, or dehydrogenated monoxide. However, during the 1999 albulm, though the theme of dehydrogenated monoxide was prevalent (see 'Something in the Water (does not compute)', the title track itself was concerned mainly with vaginas alone.

A minor hit at first, this song coasted on the success of the more melodic track "Little Red Corvette" which propelled Prince into Pop Superstardum. It essentially set the stage for Purple Rain which made him a global phenomenon.

As for the lyrical content in the song itself, one can not critique that without a thorough understanding of Prince's psychological state of mind during that period of his life. What little we do know has come from speculation or a combination of certain assertions based on a whole collection of later works. For example, In 1999, Prince says "I got a lion in my pocket, and baby he's ready to roar!", this is assumed to be a reference to his penis. But when you compare that statement to future still captures of his penis , which can be clearly seen in the famous yellow "camel toe" picture from the gold experience, the penis in question is more of a minx, or at very most, a bob-tale mountain cat--but certainly no lion. This either can be attributed to early 20's male bravado, which in present day can be witnessed in the general discussion forum as "the internet Penis" size, or it could be that Prince, the true visionary, meant something else when he said that he had a lion in his pocket. I generally like to think it was the later.
One need only look at his most recent effort, Planet Earth, to the song 'Lion of Judah'. " Like the Lion of Judah, I strike my enemies down" Prince proclaims, as if he's confronted with his own personal jihad, which of course is a direct contradiction, or very least, contrast to the overall 'love for one another, and ecological responsibility ' theme of Planet Earth . But if we take this translation of the word 'Lion' and compare it to his use of it in the song 1999, we can see where it all comes together. In 1999, Prince sings that we woke up swearing it must of been judgement day , and that he wants to party like its 1999 (remember it was 1982/1983 at that time), so essentially he's saying that the world outside is a chaotic mess, and we can't let this get us down--we must overcome this and have some fun before day of judgement comes.
And ultimately, we know what Prince's idea of fun was back in 1983--yup, vaginas. Prince was as obsessed with vaginas as he was with Dihydrogenated monoxide at that time, though the later works would reveal the scales being tipped towards the later. So we know that the fun Prince wishes to have is centered around vaginas, and we know that he wants to have this fun despite some upheaval. All we have to piece together now is what he means by 'Lion' which becomes very obvious during his symbol years and in the song Lion of Judah. What does Prince strike his enemies down with? A sword? A knife? No!!! He uses his gun-mic, a weapon that has horrified fans besieged with such lyrics as those on 'The Flow', "Jugehead", and "Sexy MF"--a weapon that has laid waste many of his critiques own previous judgements of his material, as well as his fans expectations of his previous and current output. A symbol of not only his powers as a singer, rapper, and street prophet--but of his libido and control over his sexual partners.

He was saying "give me your vagina, or I'll unleash this lion in my pocket", or more clearly stated, "Bitch, don't try anything funny with your vagina, or I'll clock your ass with this weapon." And the woman he is threatening this to, is the 'little red corvette', or the prostitute that he sings about in the song after this. So essentially, Prince is telling all the prostitutes of the world, that when you give him head, or fuck him, don't try anything funny, or you'll get 'The Lion'.

The brilliance behind all of this is that Prince is reflecting much of the urban machismo that would eventually find it's way into Heavy Metal, Ganster Rap, and even Hollywood films. But he was using his own imagery to do that--imagery that over the years, has been immitated, but never duplicated.

Prince proved in 1999, his rock opus, that now and forever, he would carve a unique niche into Pop music.



Thank you.



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falloff I know falloff a psychologist falloff named falloff Dr. Burkholder falloff
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Reply #18 posted 12/05/07 6:11am

Imago

DanceWme said:

Imago said:

When Prince wrote is post-apocolyptic Rock Opus, it was never meant to be a statement of religiosity or a call to arms, but a generation x inspired gender bending homage to the female vagina. Almost all of Prince's 80's material is concerned with vaginas, God, or dehydrogenated monoxide. However, during the 1999 albulm, though the theme of dehydrogenated monoxide was prevalent (see 'Something in the Water (does not compute)', the title track itself was concerned mainly with vaginas alone.

A minor hit at first, this song coasted on the success of the more melodic track "Little Red Corvette" which propelled Prince into Pop Superstardum. It essentially set the stage for Purple Rain which made him a global phenomenon.

As for the lyrical content in the song itself, one can not critique that without a thorough understanding of Prince's psychological state of mind during that period of his life. What little we do know has come from speculation or a combination of certain assertions based on a whole collection of later works. For example, In 1999, Prince says "I got a lion in my pocket, and baby he's ready to roar!", this is assumed to be a reference to his penis. But when you compare that statement to future still captures of his penis , which can be clearly seen in the famous yellow "camel toe" picture from the gold experience, the penis in question is more of a minx, or at very most, a bob-tale mountain cat--but certainly no lion. This either can be attributed to early 20's male bravado, which in present day can be witnessed in the general discussion forum as "the internet Penis" size, or it could be that Prince, the true visionary, meant something else when he said that he had a lion in his pocket. I generally like to think it was the later.
One need only look at his most recent effort, Planet Earth, to the song 'Lion of Judah'. " Like the Lion of Judah, I strike my enemies down" Prince proclaims, as if he's confronted with his own personal jihad, which of course is a direct contradiction, or very least, contrast to the overall 'love for one another, and ecological responsibility ' theme of Planet Earth . But if we take this translation of the word 'Lion' and compare it to his use of it in the song 1999, we can see where it all comes together. In 1999, Prince sings that we woke up swearing it must of been judgement day , and that he wants to party like its 1999 (remember it was 1982/1983 at that time), so essentially he's saying that the world outside is a chaotic mess, and we can't let this get us down--we must overcome this and have some fun before day of judgement comes.
And ultimately, we know what Prince's idea of fun was back in 1983--yup, vaginas. Prince was as obsessed with vaginas as he was with Dihydrogenated monoxide at that time, though the later works would reveal the scales being tipped towards the later. So we know that the fun Prince wishes to have is centered around vaginas, and we know that he wants to have this fun despite some upheaval. All we have to piece together now is what he means by 'Lion' which becomes very obvious during his symbol years and in the song Lion of Judah. What does Prince strike his enemies down with? A sword? A knife? No!!! He uses his gun-mic, a weapon that has horrified fans besieged with such lyrics as those on 'The Flow', "Jugehead", and "Sexy MF"--a weapon that has laid waste many of his critiques own previous judgements of his material, as well as his fans expectations of his previous and current output. A symbol of not only his powers as a singer, rapper, and street prophet--but of his libido and control over his sexual partners.

He was saying "give me your vagina, or I'll unleash this lion in my pocket", or more clearly stated, "Bitch, don't try anything funny with your vagina, or I'll clock your ass with this weapon." And the woman he is threatening this to, is the 'little red corvette', or the prostitute that he sings about in the song after this. So essentially, Prince is telling all the prostitutes of the world, that when you give him head, or fuck him, don't try anything funny, or you'll get 'The Lion'.

The brilliance behind all of this is that Prince is reflecting much of the urban machismo that would eventually find it's way into Heavy Metal, Ganster Rap, and even Hollywood films. But he was using his own imagery to do that--imagery that over the years, has been immitated, but never duplicated.

Prince proved in 1999, his rock opus, that now and forever, he would carve a unique niche into Pop music.



Thank you.



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falloff I know falloff a psychologist falloff named falloff Dr. Burkholder falloff



Judy Tenuta says, "It could happen!" mad

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Reply #19 posted 12/05/07 6:14am

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HA! lol





thought that was Mayte!
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Reply #20 posted 12/05/07 6:15am

Tame

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We are supposed to forgive the song, because Prince was in an alternate dream state when it was written. The Lion most definitely strayed until his Lion of Judah capture, here in 2007. cool Will we ever know what really roars behind closed doors?
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #21 posted 12/05/07 7:55am

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Tame said:

We are supposed to forgive the song, because Prince was in an alternate dream state when it was written. The Lion most definitely strayed until his Lion of Judah capture, here in 2007. cool Will we ever know what really roars behind closed doors?


nod interesting point.


prince answered this question himself on the Larry King interview.

He said that he and his band were watching this special about the supposedly end of the world come 1999 and everyone around him was really panicky about it. This surprised him because he thought that everyone around him weren't worriers and were cool/calm/collected people.
So he wrote this song to inspire them and anyone else who feared the end of the world with 1999 came. He didn't think there'd the end of the world at the end of that year... and what do u know? He was right cool

Not that I really bought into the y2k thing myself shrug
had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone
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Reply #22 posted 12/05/07 9:21am

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Imago said:

When Prince wrote is post-apocolyptic Rock Opus, it was never meant to be a statement of religiosity or a call to arms, but a generation x inspired gender bending homage to the female vagina. Almost all of Prince's 80's material is concerned with vaginas, God, or dehydrogenated monoxide. However, during the 1999 albulm, though the theme of dehydrogenated monoxide was prevalent (see 'Something in the Water (does not compute)', the title track itself was concerned mainly with vaginas alone.

A minor hit at first, this song coasted on the success of the more melodic track "Little Red Corvette" which propelled Prince into Pop Superstardum. It essentially set the stage for Purple Rain which made him a global phenomenon.

As for the lyrical content in the song itself, one can not critique that without a thorough understanding of Prince's psychological state of mind during that period of his life. What little we do know has come from speculation or a combination of certain assertions based on a whole collection of later works. For example, In 1999, Prince says "I got a lion in my pocket, and baby he's ready to roar!", this is assumed to be a reference to his penis. But when you compare that statement to future still captures of his penis , which can be clearly seen in the famous yellow "camel toe" picture from the gold experience, dehydrogenated monoxide. This either can be attributed to early 20's male bravado, which in present day can be witnessed in the general discussion forum as "the internet Penis" size, or it could be that Prince, the true visionary, meant something else when he said that he had a lion in his pocket. I generally like to think it was the later.
One need only look at his most recent effort, Planet Earth, to the song 'Lion of Judah'. " Like the Lion of Judah, I strike my enemies down" Prince proclaims, as if he's confronted with his own personal jihad, which of course is a direct contradiction, or very least, contrast to the overall 'love for one another, and ecological responsibility ' theme of Planet Earth . But if we take this translation of the word 'Lion' and compare it to his use of it in the song 1999, we can see where it all comes together. In 1999, Prince sings that we woke up swearing it must of been judgement day , and that he wants to party like its 1999 (remember it was 1982/1983 at that time), so essentially he's saying that the world outside is a chaotic mess, and we can't let this get us down--we must overcome this and have some fun before day of judgement comes.
And ultimately, we know what Prince's idea of fun was back in 1983--yup, vaginas. Prince was as obsessed with vaginas as he was with Dihydrogenated monoxide at that time, though the later works would reveal the scales being tipped towards the later. So we know that the fun Prince wishes to have is centered around vaginas, and we know that he wants to have this fun despite some upheaval. All we have to piece together now is what he means by 'Lion' which becomes very obvious during his symbol years and in the song Lion of Judah. What does Prince strike his enemies down with? A sword? A knife? No!!! He uses his gun-mic, a weapon that has horrified fans besieged with such lyrics as those on 'The Flow', "Jugehead", and "Sexy MF"--a weapon that has laid waste many of his critiques own previous judgements of his material, as well as his fans expectations of his previous and current output. A symbol of not only his powers as a singer, rapper, and street prophet--but of his libido and control over his sexual partners.

He was saying "give me your vagina, or I'll unleash this lion in my pocket", or more clearly stated, "Bitch, don't try anything funny with your vagina, or I'll clock your ass with this weapon." And the woman he is threatening this to, is the 'little red corvette', or the prostitute that he sings about in the song after this. So essentially, Prince is telling all the prostitutes of the world, that when you give him head, or fuck him, don't try anything funny, or you'll get 'The Lion'.

The brilliance behind all of this is that Prince is reflecting much of the urban machismo that would eventually find it's way into Heavy Metal, Ganster Rap, and even Hollywood films. But he was using his own imagery to do that--imagery that over the years, has been immitated, but never duplicated.

Prince proved in 1999, his rock opus, that now and forever, he would carve a unique niche into Pop music.



Thank you.



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[Edited 12/4/07 23:53pm]



Fantastic, this reply would also almost perfectly fit as a reply to the Giant magazine thread, the only part I dont get is the dehydrogenated monoxide, tried to google it and had to reboot my pc. However having read this and the other forementioned thread I can conclude what P is up to. naturally he has to try erase all evidence of his past sins, particularily that of corrupting the minds of lesser beings like ourselves here at the org. To do this he has to show evidence that he has changed his ways, which has resulted in all the pyscho babble and aversion of the last few yrs, but this is all just a case of surface, surface, surface. P has simply found an alternative way of conveying his dirty mind to the public, which allows him peace of mind, that in the event of he meeting his maker, he can pull out all this evidence of non dirty mindedness. The only catch being that the corruption has set in and most of the evidence is to be seen in the GD forum, which is the true reason he wishes to close the site down, along with all the other whoreshipping that goes on elsewhere.

the penis in question is more of a minx, or at very most, a bob-tale mountain cat--but certainly no lion lol lol lol
If it were not for insanity, I would be sane.

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Reply #23 posted 12/05/07 12:47pm

Imago

Whitnail said:

Imago said:

When Prince wrote is post-apocolyptic Rock Opus, it was never meant to be a statement of religiosity or a call to arms, but a generation x inspired gender bending homage to the female vagina. Almost all of Prince's 80's material is concerned with vaginas, God, or dehydrogenated monoxide. However, during the 1999 albulm, though the theme of dehydrogenated monoxide was prevalent (see 'Something in the Water (does not compute)', the title track itself was concerned mainly with vaginas alone.

A minor hit at first, this song coasted on the success of the more melodic track "Little Red Corvette" which propelled Prince into Pop Superstardum. It essentially set the stage for Purple Rain which made him a global phenomenon.

As for the lyrical content in the song itself, one can not critique that without a thorough understanding of Prince's psychological state of mind during that period of his life. What little we do know has come from speculation or a combination of certain assertions based on a whole collection of later works. For example, In 1999, Prince says "I got a lion in my pocket, and baby he's ready to roar!", this is assumed to be a reference to his penis. But when you compare that statement to future still captures of his penis , which can be clearly seen in the famous yellow "camel toe" picture from the gold experience, dehydrogenated monoxide. This either can be attributed to early 20's male bravado, which in present day can be witnessed in the general discussion forum as "the internet Penis" size, or it could be that Prince, the true visionary, meant something else when he said that he had a lion in his pocket. I generally like to think it was the later.
One need only look at his most recent effort, Planet Earth, to the song 'Lion of Judah'. " Like the Lion of Judah, I strike my enemies down" Prince proclaims, as if he's confronted with his own personal jihad, which of course is a direct contradiction, or very least, contrast to the overall 'love for one another, and ecological responsibility ' theme of Planet Earth . But if we take this translation of the word 'Lion' and compare it to his use of it in the song 1999, we can see where it all comes together. In 1999, Prince sings that we woke up swearing it must of been judgement day , and that he wants to party like its 1999 (remember it was 1982/1983 at that time), so essentially he's saying that the world outside is a chaotic mess, and we can't let this get us down--we must overcome this and have some fun before day of judgement comes.
And ultimately, we know what Prince's idea of fun was back in 1983--yup, vaginas. Prince was as obsessed with vaginas as he was with Dihydrogenated monoxide at that time, though the later works would reveal the scales being tipped towards the later. So we know that the fun Prince wishes to have is centered around vaginas, and we know that he wants to have this fun despite some upheaval. All we have to piece together now is what he means by 'Lion' which becomes very obvious during his symbol years and in the song Lion of Judah. What does Prince strike his enemies down with? A sword? A knife? No!!! He uses his gun-mic, a weapon that has horrified fans besieged with such lyrics as those on 'The Flow', "Jugehead", and "Sexy MF"--a weapon that has laid waste many of his critiques own previous judgements of his material, as well as his fans expectations of his previous and current output. A symbol of not only his powers as a singer, rapper, and street prophet--but of his libido and control over his sexual partners.

He was saying "give me your vagina, or I'll unleash this lion in my pocket", or more clearly stated, "Bitch, don't try anything funny with your vagina, or I'll clock your ass with this weapon." And the woman he is threatening this to, is the 'little red corvette', or the prostitute that he sings about in the song after this. So essentially, Prince is telling all the prostitutes of the world, that when you give him head, or fuck him, don't try anything funny, or you'll get 'The Lion'.

The brilliance behind all of this is that Prince is reflecting much of the urban machismo that would eventually find it's way into Heavy Metal, Ganster Rap, and even Hollywood films. But he was using his own imagery to do that--imagery that over the years, has been immitated, but never duplicated.

Prince proved in 1999, his rock opus, that now and forever, he would carve a unique niche into Pop music.



Thank you.



spelling edit
[Edited 12/4/07 23:53pm]



Fantastic, this reply would also almost perfectly fit as a reply to the Giant magazine thread, the only part I dont get is the dehydrogenated monoxide, tried to google it and had to reboot my pc. However having read this and the other forementioned thread I can conclude what P is up to. naturally he has to try erase all evidence of his past sins, particularily that of corrupting the minds of lesser beings like ourselves here at the org. To do this he has to show evidence that he has changed his ways, which has resulted in all the pyscho babble and aversion of the last few yrs, but this is all just a case of surface, surface, surface. P has simply found an alternative way of conveying his dirty mind to the public, which allows him peace of mind, that in the event of he meeting his maker, he can pull out all this evidence of non dirty mindedness. The only catch being that the corruption has set in and most of the evidence is to be seen in the GD forum, which is the true reason he wishes to close the site down, along with all the other whoreshipping that goes on elsewhere.

the penis in question is more of a minx, or at very most, a bob-tale mountain cat--but certainly no lion lol lol lol

I think you can find it if you google Dihydrogen Monoxide


But I agree with everything you posted. EVERYTHING.
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Reply #24 posted 12/05/07 6:50pm

wildgoldenhone
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MY PERSONAL APOCOLYTIC DAY:

It started around 2 am, the storm came in and woke me (I usually sleep through anything), that's when I noticed the electricity went down. When finally it was time to get up for work, still no electricity and I got ready in close to darkness, using the light from my phone.

Outside everything was dark, and by the time I drove out I was drenched. The freeway was backed up even at this early hour, a massive puddle took up 4-5 lanes and all cars after merging from 2 freeways into one, had to converge into two lanes to bypass the puddle. Back onto city streets in parts of the city there were no stoplights in some areas and I almost caused an accident at a major intersection because I was lost and didn't know where I was.

The winds knocked over 15-20 telephone poles in the town where I live and practically everyone was stuck. Schools were closed, businesses were closed, sattellite phone was down, internet was down, people stranded at bus stops. One bus was hit by lightning so all service was cancelled (that's why people were stranded). I was almost hit by lightning while I parked.

Almost every business I called today to get their holiday schedule was either closed or they had sattelite phone service and not in service because of that.

I probably won't be able to make it home, or will be on the highway for hours, since there is only one way in/out of my town, and if I do make it, the electricity will be down for a few days.

disbelief

The worst part was no internet! omfg
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Reply #25 posted 12/05/07 6:53pm

wildgoldenhone
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wildgoldenhoney said:

MY PERSONAL APOCOLYTIC DAY:

It started around 2 am, the storm came in and woke me (I usually sleep through anything), that's when I noticed the electricity went down. When finally it was time to get up for work, still no electricity and I got ready in close to darkness, using the light from my phone.

Outside everything was dark, and by the time I drove out I was drenched. The freeway was backed up even at this early hour, a massive puddle took up 4-5 lanes and all cars after merging from 2 freeways into one, had to converge into two lanes to bypass the puddle. Back onto city streets in parts of the city there were no stoplights in some areas and I almost caused an accident at a major intersection because I was lost and didn't know where I was.

The winds knocked over 15-20 telephone poles in the town where I live and practically everyone was stuck. Schools were closed, businesses were closed, sattellite phone was down, internet was down, people stranded at bus stops. One bus was hit by lightning so all service was cancelled (that's why people were stranded). I was almost hit by lightning while I parked.

Almost every business I called today to get their holiday schedule was either closed or they had sattelite phone service and not in service because of that.

I probably won't be able to make it home, or will be on the highway for hours, since there is only one way in/out of my town, and if I do make it, the electricity will be down for a few days.

disbelief

The worst part was no internet! omfg


*Get some rest tonight! wink
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Reply #26 posted 12/05/07 6:59pm

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wildgoldenhoney said:

wildgoldenhoney said:

MY PERSONAL APOCOLYTIC DAY:

It started around 2 am, the storm came in and woke me (I usually sleep through anything), that's when I noticed the electricity went down. When finally it was time to get up for work, still no electricity and I got ready in close to darkness, using the light from my phone.

Outside everything was dark, and by the time I drove out I was drenched. The freeway was backed up even at this early hour, a massive puddle took up 4-5 lanes and all cars after merging from 2 freeways into one, had to converge into two lanes to bypass the puddle. Back onto city streets in parts of the city there were no stoplights in some areas and I almost caused an accident at a major intersection because I was lost and didn't know where I was.

The winds knocked over 15-20 telephone poles in the town where I live and practically everyone was stuck. Schools were closed, businesses were closed, sattellite phone was down, internet was down, people stranded at bus stops. One bus was hit by lightning so all service was cancelled (that's why people were stranded). I was almost hit by lightning while I parked.

Almost every business I called today to get their holiday schedule was either closed or they had sattelite phone service and not in service because of that.

I probably won't be able to make it home, or will be on the highway for hours, since there is only one way in/out of my town, and if I do make it, the electricity will be down for a few days.

disbelief

The worst part was no internet! omfg


*Get some rest tonight! wink


wow! u have a great work ethic!
in the uk 'the wrong type of snow' or wet leaves on the railway tracks will grind the whole country 2 a complete halt. i'm not kidding!
lol
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Reply #27 posted 12/06/07 10:25am

Imago

wildgoldenhoney said:

MY PERSONAL APOCOLYTIC DAY:

It started around 2 am, the storm came in and woke me (I usually sleep through anything), that's when I noticed the electricity went down. When finally it was time to get up for work, still no electricity and I got ready in close to darkness, using the light from my phone.

Outside everything was dark, and by the time I drove out I was drenched. The freeway was backed up even at this early hour, a massive puddle took up 4-5 lanes and all cars after merging from 2 freeways into one, had to converge into two lanes to bypass the puddle. Back onto city streets in parts of the city there were no stoplights in some areas and I almost caused an accident at a major intersection because I was lost and didn't know where I was.

The winds knocked over 15-20 telephone poles in the town where I live and practically everyone was stuck. Schools were closed, businesses were closed, sattellite phone was down, internet was down, people stranded at bus stops. One bus was hit by lightning so all service was cancelled (that's why people were stranded). I was almost hit by lightning while I parked.

Almost every business I called today to get their holiday schedule was either closed or they had sattelite phone service and not in service because of that.

I probably won't be able to make it home, or will be on the highway for hours, since there is only one way in/out of my town, and if I do make it, the electricity will be down for a few days.

disbelief

The worst part was no internet! omfg


word!
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Reply #28 posted 12/06/07 11:29am

wildgoldenhone
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lottielooloo1968 said:

wildgoldenhoney said:



*Get some rest tonight! wink


wow! u have a great work ethic!
in the uk 'the wrong type of snow' or wet leaves on the railway tracks will grind the whole country 2 a complete halt. i'm not kidding!
lol


Don't get me wrong, I use all the excuses I can to get out of something! lol
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Reply #29 posted 12/06/07 11:38am

wildgoldenhone
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Imago said:

wildgoldenhoney said:

MY PERSONAL APOCOLYTIC DAY:

It started around 2 am, the storm came in and woke me (I usually sleep through anything), that's when I noticed the electricity went down. When finally it was time to get up for work, still no electricity and I got ready in close to darkness, using the light from my phone.

Outside everything was dark, and by the time I drove out I was drenched. The freeway was backed up even at this early hour, a massive puddle took up 4-5 lanes and all cars after merging from 2 freeways into one, had to converge into two lanes to bypass the puddle. Back onto city streets in parts of the city there were no stoplights in some areas and I almost caused an accident at a major intersection because I was lost and didn't know where I was.

The winds knocked over 15-20 telephone poles in the town where I live and practically everyone was stuck. Schools were closed, businesses were closed, sattellite phone was down, internet was down, people stranded at bus stops. One bus was hit by lightning so all service was cancelled (that's why people were stranded). I was almost hit by lightning while I parked.

Almost every business I called today to get their holiday schedule was either closed or they had sattelite phone service and not in service because of that.

I probably won't be able to make it home, or will be on the highway for hours, since there is only one way in/out of my town, and if I do make it, the electricity will be down for a few days.

disbelief

The worst part was no internet! omfg


word!


You're referring to my no internet, no electricity part?

LAST NIGHT WAS A TOUGH NIGHT TO GET THROUGH!

...hopefully power is restored back home - bawl
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