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Thread started 11/15/07 1:54am

Kim69

Until Prince releases a statement officially

I have no interest in
1 - speculation about what Prince has or has not done in regards to possible sueing

2 - speculation in regards to what Prince will/will not, has/has not, or will/will not do in regardss to sueing, or asking sights to do

3 - speculation in regards to..anything doing with PFU..at all.


I have every interest in what Prince will/has done in regards to ALL legal and true response/actions...or movements in regards to this matter.

The fact that he put out a FUNKY ASS song but still has not really responded proves to me ONE THING....

That....NO ONE know except his management company, legal reps and himself exactly know what HE has intended for said "Cease and Desist" order....soo....if he is watching this board...i hope he is grown up enuff to understand that peoples personal opinions are 'Just That' and reality ultimatley is in the music.

I AM NOT a person whom is a blind and foolish Prince follower....frankley...i am a person...who is strictly a fan *fam* and am here because on his first record in the intro he said he would share with us his life and music. I am fascinated by his business ventures but am not affected by it on an eveyday basis as well as all fans/fams should NOT be....then...really just chill and STOP attacking him on a personal level cause you HAVE NOT IDEA what is the real situation in HIS life....HE WIL SHARE WITH US....BE PATIENT.

If u consider yourself a fan then support, but if not....then just wait and see.
Cause....think about yourself and how you would feel if someone made personal attacks on you, without knowing you personally AND not knowing said situation up close and personal.

I am NOT SAYING don't voice your opinion....because by all means he has...and will always...but remember....he is one against millions of opinions....you (the orger/Prince Fan/Fam) are one maybe against just a few and his....

Remember....he is JUST AS HUMAN AS YOU....and makes mistakes just like you/me... all of us....really get a clue....and try...to be understanding....and maybe just a little kinder in your written opinions.

You....whomever YOU are....have opinions against you constantly...as I and everyone ON THIS PLANET... Put unlike Him you do not have to privledge of reading it on a website.....

I have many, many gripes against Prince in regards to Shows, fandom and music but have respectfully tempered them in 'PUBLIC' because i KNOW that he may read it.

OKay that is all....i love everyone...eventhough i may not like them..

peace to all, pray for no war....and water for Georgia.....
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Reply #1 posted 11/15/07 1:57am

PANDURITO

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I have never written such a long post eek

...not even about things I'm interested in smile
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Reply #2 posted 11/15/07 1:58am

Kim69

biggrin
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Reply #3 posted 11/15/07 1:59am

Kim69

i have been drinking and was inspired....ofcourse their are typo's
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Reply #4 posted 11/15/07 1:59am

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Pray for water for Africa too
They don't need it to wash their SUVs

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Reply #5 posted 11/15/07 2:00am

Kim69

PANDURITO said:

Pray for water for Africa too
They don't need it to wash their SUVs

smile


i do not have a SUV....and i want water in Georgia
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Reply #6 posted 11/15/07 2:02am

PANDURITO

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Yeah, Georgia too nod
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Reply #7 posted 11/15/07 2:04am

Kim69

exactley....lots of thirsty negros here biggrin
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Reply #8 posted 11/15/07 2:05am

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omfg
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Reply #9 posted 11/15/07 2:06am

Kim69

biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin
truthfully man
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Reply #10 posted 11/15/07 2:16am

Kim69

MWAH!!!! cool
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Reply #11 posted 11/15/07 2:16am

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I don't believe in speculation either, but I KNOW that everything claimed by
PFU is absolutely true. That's right, I don't "think" it is, or "believe" it is, or
"in my opinion" it is... I "KNOW" it is.
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Reply #12 posted 11/15/07 2:27am

Kim69

I agree with PFU....BUT....you MUST understand...that the issue in question comes from Prince's companies that REPRESENT HIM....NOT him.....their is a BIG DIFFERECE. He may think one thing and the companies action may be their interpertation of what he says....they are looking at it from a different point of view.....what he wants and what happens MAY be 2 different things...
'Love will be your Soldier' - Nikka Costa

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Reply #13 posted 11/15/07 2:39am

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Ah, but the companies that represent him are directly acting on Prince's
instructions. Sure, there's going to be the odd thing that gets caught in the
crossfire that Prince hadn't specifically intended, but we're talking about a
very small margin here. Believe me, Prince is very well aware of exactly what
is being carried out in his name.
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Reply #14 posted 11/15/07 3:20am

txladykat

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This is the problem right here Kim. You believe it is only Prince's companies involved because AEG said so in their press release. Therefore, you are relying on misinformation. This is also the same news reporting that tried to lump the three sites in with pirate bay. Do you really believe Prince has no idea what Paisley Park Enterprises and NPG Records are doing? These are the "companies" that have made demands in most of the letters.

Trust me when boris says Prince knows, HE KNOWS!

You also have to consider that Prince is a public figure, you cannot compare talking about his cirucmstances to talking about those of a private citizen such as you and I.

However, that being said, the joint statement should be released soon. Unfortunately with so many entities involved (all the sites and Prince's team), it takes time to have it reviewed, revised and approved by all. Rest assured, all parties involved are working towards a solution. wink
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Reply #15 posted 11/15/07 5:14am

Tame

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Nice post Kim. I agree with being supportive, while we are here. Prince is no stranger to all that could be said. If he comes along to read, I would hope he would see something nice.
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #16 posted 11/15/07 5:17am

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Kim69 said:

I have no interest in
1 - speculation about what Prince has or has not done in regards to possible sueing

2 - speculation in regards to what Prince will/will not, has/has not, or will/will not do in regardss to sueing, or asking sights to do

3 - speculation in regards to..anything doing with PFU..at all.


I have every interest in what Prince will/has done in regards to ALL legal and true response/actions...or movements in regards to this matter.

The fact that he put out a FUNKY ASS song but still has not really responded proves to me ONE THING....

That....NO ONE know except his management company, legal reps and himself exactly know what HE has intended for said "Cease and Desist" order....soo....if he is watching this board...i hope he is grown up enuff to understand that peoples personal opinions are 'Just That' and reality ultimatley is in the music.

I AM NOT a person whom is a blind and foolish Prince follower....frankley...i am a person...who is strictly a fan *fam* and am here because on his first record in the intro he said he would share with us his life and music. I am fascinated by his business ventures but am not affected by it on an eveyday basis as well as all fans/fams should NOT be....then...really just chill and STOP attacking him on a personal level cause you HAVE NOT IDEA what is the real situation in HIS life....HE WIL SHARE WITH US....BE PATIENT.

If u consider yourself a fan then support, but if not....then just wait and see.
Cause....think about yourself and how you would feel if someone made personal attacks on you, without knowing you personally AND not knowing said situation up close and personal.

I am NOT SAYING don't voice your opinion....because by all means he has...and will always...but remember....he is one against millions of opinions....you (the orger/Prince Fan/Fam) are one maybe against just a few and his....

Remember....he is JUST AS HUMAN AS YOU....and makes mistakes just like you/me... all of us....really get a clue....and try...to be understanding....and maybe just a little kinder in your written opinions.

You....whomever YOU are....have opinions against you constantly...as I and everyone ON THIS PLANET... Put unlike Him you do not have to privledge of reading it on a website.....

I have many, many gripes against Prince in regards to Shows, fandom and music but have respectfully tempered them in 'PUBLIC' because i KNOW that he may read it.

OKay that is all....i love everyone...eventhough i may not like them..

peace to all, pray for no war....and water for Georgia.....


So if you have no interest at present, don't you think its hypocritial to start a thread about it?
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Reply #17 posted 11/15/07 5:20am

NPGoperata

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Kim69 said:

I agree with PFU....BUT....you MUST understand...that the issue in question comes from Prince's companies that REPRESENT HIM....NOT him.....their is a BIG DIFFERECE. He may think one thing and the companies action may be their interpertation of what he says....they are looking at it from a different point of view.....what he wants and what happens MAY be 2 different things...


very doubtful though knowing what a control freak Prince is. He will detail exactly what he wants to come across to his representatives.
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Reply #18 posted 11/15/07 6:30am

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Kim69 said:

I agree with PFU....BUT....you MUST understand...that the issue in question comes from Prince's companies that REPRESENT HIM....NOT him.....their is a BIG DIFFERECE. He may think one thing and the companies action may be their interpertation of what he says....they are looking at it from a different point of view.....what he wants and what happens MAY be 2 different things...



Well, here i go again.
I'd agree with you, well actually i don't.

Here's the thing.
IF the companies that are "representing" Prince, somehow "misunderstood" his wants and needs in this matter and somehow got it wrong, then his response wouldn't have been A "DISS SONG" TO THE FANS.

So, sorry. P doesn't get a pass. He's being a dick.
If you want to sit around and hold your breath waiting on some "official" word from him, good on you. Good luck with that unconsciousness.
http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
y'all gone keep messin' around wit me and turn me back to the old me......
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Reply #19 posted 11/15/07 6:46am

Shorty

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txladykat said:

This is the problem right here Kim. You believe it is only Prince's companies involved because AEG said so in their press release. Therefore, you are relying on misinformation. This is also the same news reporting that tried to lump the three sites in with pirate bay. Do you really believe Prince has no idea what Paisley Park Enterprises and NPG Records are doing? These are the "companies" that have made demands in most of the letters.

Trust me when boris says Prince knows, HE KNOWS!

You also have to consider that Prince is a public figure, you cannot compare talking about his cirucmstances to talking about those of a private citizen such as you and I.

However, that being said, the joint statement should be released soon. Unfortunately with so many entities involved (all the sites and Prince's team), it takes time to have it reviewed, revised and approved by all. Rest assured, all parties involved are working towards a solution. wink

Wait a minute....Prince is a celebrity...in the public eye...but not a "public figure" as say an elected official or anything..... Yes, since he is a celebrity his legal dealings make the news but it does not change the fact that He IS indeed a private citizen just like the rest of us.
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #21 posted 11/15/07 7:04am

txladykat

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Shorty said:

txladykat said:

This is the problem right here Kim. You believe it is only Prince's companies involved because AEG said so in their press release. Therefore, you are relying on misinformation. This is also the same news reporting that tried to lump the three sites in with pirate bay. Do you really believe Prince has no idea what Paisley Park Enterprises and NPG Records are doing? These are the "companies" that have made demands in most of the letters.

Trust me when boris says Prince knows, HE KNOWS!

You also have to consider that Prince is a public figure, you cannot compare talking about his cirucmstances to talking about those of a private citizen such as you and I.

However, that being said, the joint statement should be released soon. Unfortunately with so many entities involved (all the sites and Prince's team), it takes time to have it reviewed, revised and approved by all. Rest assured, all parties involved are working towards a solution. wink

Wait a minute....Prince is a celebrity...in the public eye...but not a "public figure" as say an elected official or anything..... Yes, since he is a celebrity his legal dealings make the news but it does not change the fact that He IS indeed a private citizen just like the rest of us.


check the law. a celebrity is considered a "public figure". abd, again based on the law, public figures are not afforded the same privacy rights as citizens wink , but, public figures to have a right of privacy in their own home. that being said, i have not seen any allegation that his right of privacy has been invaded, so its irrelevant.
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Reply #22 posted 11/15/07 7:10am

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confused sigh Prince and speculation go together
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Reply #23 posted 11/15/07 8:21am

Shorty

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txladykat said:

Shorty said:


Wait a minute....Prince is a celebrity...in the public eye...but not a "public figure" as say an elected official or anything..... Yes, since he is a celebrity his legal dealings make the news but it does not change the fact that He IS indeed a private citizen just like the rest of us.


check the law. a celebrity is considered a "public figure". abd, again based on the law, public figures are not afforded the same privacy rights as citizens wink , but, public figures to have a right of privacy in their own home. that being said, i have not seen any allegation that his right of privacy has been invaded, so its irrelevant.



OK...so you are right... "by law" he's a public figure. But can you not see what the girl was trying to say? he is in fact a person, with feelings. and I agree that it must hurt like hell when reading some of the stuff people have said about him by the people who supposedly love him the most. Just cause the "law" says he has less rights than I do....doesn't mean the law is right.
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #24 posted 11/15/07 9:32am

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Shorty said:

txladykat said:



check the law. a celebrity is considered a "public figure". abd, again based on the law, public figures are not afforded the same privacy rights as citizens wink , but, public figures to have a right of privacy in their own home. that being said, i have not seen any allegation that his right of privacy has been invaded, so its irrelevant.



OK...so you are right... "by law" he's a public figure. But can you not see what the girl was trying to say? he is in fact a person, with feelings. and I agree that it must hurt like hell when reading some of the stuff people have said about him by the people who supposedly love him the most. Just cause the "law" says he has less rights than I do....doesn't mean the law is right.


her post was lengthy and had several points raised, not just the one you mentioned.

i responded to several of comments, not just that one in particular. one of the comments was that prince's companies is doing this so why is prince getting the heat (paraphrasing here) and I was clarifying the issue. being intimately involved in the ongoing battle, I just thought she was entitled to the facts.

but, for the record, my sympathies do not lie with prince, because having dealth with this for months and months, I see how it is affecting the owners of these sites on a personal level. It may seem trivial to you, but being hauled into court is a true reality for these guys, and even more so for those in other countries that have been threatened with criminal activities as well. my support right now lies with Aaron, Ben, Endre and Jonathan.
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Shorty

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txladykat said:

Shorty said:




OK...so you are right... "by law" he's a public figure. But can you not see what the girl was trying to say? he is in fact a person, with feelings. and I agree that it must hurt like hell when reading some of the stuff people have said about him by the people who supposedly love him the most. Just cause the "law" says he has less rights than I do....doesn't mean the law is right.


her post was lengthy and had several points raised, not just the one you mentioned.

i responded to several of comments, not just that one in particular. one of the comments was that prince's companies is doing this so why is prince getting the heat (paraphrasing here) and I was clarifying the issue. being intimately involved in the ongoing battle, I just thought she was entitled to the facts.

but, for the record, my sympathies do not lie with prince, because having dealth with this for months and months, I see how it is affecting the owners of these sites on a personal level. It may seem trivial to you, but being hauled into court is a true reality for these guys, and even more so for those in other countries that have been threatened with criminal activities as well. my support right now lies with Aaron, Ben, Endre and Jonathan.
[Edited 11/15/07 9:33am]


I understand her post was lengthy and raised many points...I was pretty clearly specific about the one point I was raising.
Facts are great, I'm not against facts. Thank you for providing some.
I understand your position. I'm just trying to sympathize with BOTH sides. It does not seem trivial to me, and I never questioned your position.
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #26 posted 11/15/07 4:15pm

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thanks for the clarification shorty wink

we hope to have the joint statement out soon and hopefully talks are successful and all this won't matter.
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Reply #27 posted 11/15/07 4:17pm

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txladykat said:

thanks for the clarification shorty wink

we hope to have the joint statement out soon and hopefully talks are successful and all this won't matter.


pray good to know smile
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #28 posted 11/15/07 4:19pm

txladykat

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trust me when i say I am kneeling next to you. Dealing with all this in my spare time is becoming WAY to time consuming.
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Reply #29 posted 11/15/07 4:28pm

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hey, while y'all are praying for rain...just concentrate on north Georgia, mainly the metro Atlanta area...here in south Georgia, we've got plenty of water...not much over populating, straining natural water sources and tri state bureaucracy going on down here...we got plenty of water...thats all, carry on...
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